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China is expected to overtake North America to become the world's largest film market within three years. (self.movies)

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  • China on track to hit $6.28 billion (40 billion yuan) for 2015

  • Box-office receipts in the United States and Canada combined fell 5 percent last year but still hit $10.4 billion

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-box-office-exceeds-2014-820883

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[–]toeofcamell 69ポイント70ポイント  (21子コメント)

That's what happens when you have a population of 3 zillion

[–]50Olol5 15ポイント16ポイント  (19子コメント)

No, otherwise India and China would've owned the market already. The real reason is because of China's growing middle class and globalization where we are homogenizing cultures.

[–]Webemperor 17ポイント18ポイント  (15子コメント)

So, technically population?

[–]50Olol5 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (14子コメント)

No, having a population of 1 billion poor people will not mean anything. Having a population of 300 million middle class people makes a huge difference. Otherwise our movies would be catering to Indians, Nigerians, and Indonesians a lot more.

[–]Roflsaucerr 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

What? No, it's both, but mostly their population. Their population is 4 times that of the United States. A fourth of their population could go see a movie and there is no feasible way an American movie, not counting revenue in other countries, could outperform. An eighth of their population and half of the American population would need to go.

Yes, it's only now relevant because of their growing middle class. But that fact only matters because their population is so massive.

[–]estacado 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And India has their own strong local movie industry, way more active than China's.

[–]Nickvee -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

don't forget america's vanishing middle class

[–]carlmalonealone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Film market is only theater? Shit title. Americans have home theaters now. Chinese don't.

[–]bobpoo 21ポイント22ポイント  (1子コメント)

All new Summer movies will now include robots and the obligatory action scene set in a Chinese city...shit they already do

[–]Tsegen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So it gets added to the list of overused vistas like San Francisco? Not the end of the world, for someone that isn't American.

Hell, you watch stuff like Fast and Furious and Bond and Mission Impossible and stuff really isn't limited to America (cause it has no reason to be) and no one cares.

They generally seem to intrude on the plot with characters written precisely to get the movie into Chinese theaters...who they then cut out in the non-Chinese market.

[–]simplefilmreviews 17ポイント18ポイント  (12子コメント)

It'll be interesting (probably bad for the US) to see how this effects the film industry...

[–]ghettothf 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think the only films that would be affected by this are the huge blockbusters. You already see the pandering to international audiences in movies like Transformers 4, and that is likely to continue in the near future with the possibility of an increased presence, but I doubt it would be worse than it is now.

The "Oscar-season" type movies will still be the same, and since box office is not the #1 motivation for these movies, it won't matter that there is larger box office potential in another country. So we can all rest easy that Christopher Nolan is not likely to make a movie with Chinese advertisements in it.

[–]irontapr/Movies Veteran 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sure hope so.

[–]lordlazyeye -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's not likely to make an Oscar-worthy movie either. He's a hack.

[–]capdeporc2005 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's better than half the people that won in the past decade.

[–]Webemperor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Inarritu deserved it imo.

[–]lordlazyeye 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No he's not, he makes blockbusters that aren't totally dumbed down.

[–]Seen_Unseen 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No worries. Chinese movies are really a different league. They are either teen romance, about 45 (even it's pure nonsense since they got butchered) or about a monkey king. Just a quick observation from a foreigner trying to watch movies here in the cinema, nothing really appeals.

[–]preemptive_strike23 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Id watch a good monkey king film

[–]gpace1216 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It could actually be good. Studios will of course cater blockbusters to the Chinese, but mid-level budgeted films might get a lot more discussion and promotion from the American media if blockbusters are less popular with Americans than they used to be. (I think that would only happen if Americans start to turn on the big movies due to the catering, predicting of which depends on how cynical you are.)

A lot of "reddit favorites" could end up being more popular with the general population as a result. More people might see John Wick (budget 20 mil), Snowpiercer (40 mil budget), Nightcrawler (9 mil), and even the gemmiest of them all; Moon (5 mil)

[–]MeteoricHorizons 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aren't only a select number of Hollywood films allowed to be shown in China?

[–]SQUID_FUCKER -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

More pandering to international audiences in Hollywood films. We'll probably also see China getting some favored release-dates more frequently. I do wonder if production houses and film productions themselves will start to migrate but I'm not really sure what China's tax incentives are. I imagine they'll start to get a bit better though.

Edit: I've seen this comment at -5. I don't mind downvotes but did I say something factually wrong here?

[–]PastelFlamingo150 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hollywood is probably salivating at this. Stupid remakes and derivative drivel will be new to them.

[–]HeyItsMau 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a shame. China had a sweet spot of great films in the 80's and 90's from directors like Zhang Yimou and Chen Kaige. They were great but really somber dramas that really captured understated Chinese emotions as they slowly crawled out of the shell of super repressive governments.

But now that China's the wild west of capitalism and they've got a taste for western opulence, the audiences just want gaudy cgi eyegasms.

[–]Redmathead 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Zhang Yimou and all those fifth wave directors weren't commercially big when they first came on the scene either. The 80's and 90's HK/Chinese scene was dominated by kung-fu flicks and nonsensical comedies. There's probably plenty of great new up and coming directors you're just not paying attention to or not bothering to take the time out to find.

[–]jibenotjive 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's hoping for more freedom for directors and screenwriters! Right now certain plot lines, character types, and endings are forbidden, which enforces homogeneity and restricts expression.

[–]endless_wave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suppose there's as much chance of lots of freedom for screenwriters as there is for lots of snow in Beijing at the 2022 Olympic Games...

[–]gallagher222 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is fantastic news for any major film studio that creates global blockbusters. Disney, Universal, Paramount, just to name a few.

[–]MiguelGusto 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cool, we can look forward to more movies with China as a location or Chinese actors unknown in the US to be shoehorned into every movie.

[–]slicky803 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally, I'd rather that than yet another film set in Manhattan.

[–]jiagarwa 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

India has 7-8 different major local film industry based on language. combined together they produce more films putting rest top 10 together. in terms of dollar, its still catching up. last 5 years had big numbers.

[–]lsraeli_Shill 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I thought Bollywood was #1?

[–]Alexlincoln2 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Bollywood is second whe. It comes to cinemas based on number of films (nigeria is first). This refers to the size of the audience, not the size of the film insustry.

[–]lsraeli_Shill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh alright

[–]kingseeker__frampt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, Nigeria makes the most number of films? Wow, I just realised I've never even seen a Nigerian film. I wonder what a Nigerian film would be about?

Prince Abdou is a wealthy Nigerian prince who has lost his fortune. To help retrieve it, he enlists the help of a trusty sidekick via email.

[–]richjew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

We can expect lots more Transformers 4's, Terminator Genesis', Minions, and Battleship's then! Wonderful!

[–]heyboyhey 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So will this set things back in blockbusters concerning things like gay characters? For the longest time Hollywood hesitated to include that kind of stuff, but slowly there has been progress. Would be a pity if that would regress because of them feeling they have to be more sensitive to Chinese and other more conservative markets.

[–]Povertypizza 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What does a movie ticket cost in china, and are the theatres newer higher end places? Very curious.

[–]crasyeyez 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Movie tickets are between $8-$15USD.

The cinema quality is average.

Some Western movies have scenes cut due to violence, gore or politics.

[–]jeremydurden 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some movie theaters also offer memberships that give you a discount. I don't know what the membership costs but as a foreigner it was often offered to me by strangers. At my local theater I was able to bring in outside beer and food, tickets were $12 at full price, you reserved the seat you wanted, and the audience usually left after the final action scene but before the movie was over. Also, in all the Marvel movies I saw, the after credit scene was always missing. here is a picture of the theater I saw movies at.

[–]railod 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

India is the largest film market.

[–]AsksWithQuestions -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Makes me wonder how much the Avatar sequels are going to make. Those movies were huge in China back in 2010 when the China market wasn't even close to the size it is today.

[–]_bieber_hole_69 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow you have a point. Avatar 2 might not be as big as the first one here in the states, but China is going to go crazy over it.

[–]Motherlicka -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can't imagine why anyone would care about quantity over quality when it comes to film. Their population is just a tad bit higher than NA as well.

[–]TheAustinKnight 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just a tad bit higher?

The population of China is two hundred million more than North and South America combined.

[–]crasyeyez 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think 'just a tad bit' was meant sarcastically.

[–]talktothehand00 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Think of all the movies Hollywood can steal ideas from... Wait, they do this already

[–]Sock_of_Ir_Yut 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sort of like how the entire world always has and always will steal ideas from Hollywood.

[–]temporarycreature -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Won't this mean they'll have to film in English? Americans won't go to a theater to read subtitles.

[–]shayolaan -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Of course they won't film in English. Americans will have to catch up with the rest of the world, or wait for the awful dubbed versions.

[–]temporarycreature 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then they will never dominate the US market.