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Honora's deleted posts. (self.nakedandafraid)
1r1d3sc3nt が 1ヶ月前 投稿
Since many are still wondering what Honora said in her now deleted posts in an earlier thread, I will post them since I had them saved.
Can't censor me! Enjoy!
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 15ポイント16ポイント17ポイント 1ヶ月前* (9子コメント)
I'm just a student (theater and music), nationally certified massage therapist, and herbalist with an organic body product company. I happen to do a lot of survival-related things, like big wall climbing, solo mountaineering, long distance swimming, etc. When they contacted me for the show, I was living in a car and traveling. I hunt, study plants, and am a wilderness first responder.
I'm probably the only contestant on the show who doesn't call themselves a survivalist, which personally I think is a contrived and kinda bullshit term.
I actually brought 3 knives and a water filter to Brazil, Matt brought 4 knives. They asked each of us if we'd be willing to bring a fire starter. They liked my story about my dad dying and mentioning bringing a mag. So they had a PA go into the village and buy a mag and a keychain flint. They gave me my pick. We both tried to start a fire a few times, but it was really windy and then would dump rain every other day. We had to dig a hole in the sand and put kindling in it and try to aim the sunlight into the hole. I actually stole two baby birds from a nest and cleaned them one day, but took them too late in the day (4:30 pm, about)...the sun went down at 6. So I tried cooking them and cured them about half way, then tried a fire, but it was too late. They ended up being bait in my fish basket (which was never shown. It was a badass funnel).
I got pissed and started drama because Chris was a camera-hogging queen who hates women, and Luke was a camera-hogging bitch who was telling me all my ideas were bad ones and then using the same ideas on camera the next day like they were his. I got pissed, flipped out, threw their shit in the river. I was also pissed at Discovery for throwing me under the bus on my Brazil edit and then denying me kidney meds in Colombia. I brought a signed doctor's prescription on hospital letterhead for salt for my kidneys, and 3 producers came into my room prior to the challenge and said it wouldn't be fair to the other contestants. Then I found out Luke got 2 bottles of homemade tincture (fine alcohol, herbs, fish oil, and more mystery ingredients) he got to take at will, while Dani B got B vitamins. So I was pissed, to say the least. I completely lost trust in Discovery and Renegade, and actually tried to tap out the day before the blowup because my kidneys were swollen. The field producer convinced me to stay another day.
There is soooooo much that they omitted from both episodes, I don't even know where to begin. There are full nudes on www.stonenudes.com. I was in 3 Stone Nudes calendars, including a cover, and I have 5 photos featured in Dean Fidelman's book, "Art in Motion." I took them with him in Yosemite, El Dorado Canyon in Colorado, and Thailand.
I'd like to be a screenwriter and keep working on my new herbal company. I've done some character extra work recently on Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Look for the ski episode next season! It's hilarious!
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1ヶ月前* (8子コメント)
The production crew doesn't coach, but they do ask us to rephrase things certain ways, or to use words they want us to use. Like me saying that whole thing about redemption — that was their story, not mine.
From my perspective, I was thrown under the bus with the Brazil edit and being asked to "redeem myself" was as ludicrous and nonsensical as people telling me I need to apologize for throwing the tools in the river. Like, no one's gonna die. They're going to keep doing their thing and get fed crackers and tincture, and if they start to fail they're gonna get snickers bars and space blankets.
The locust that Matt gave me in Brazil actually fell onto Jesse, the cameraman, and he tossed it at Matt and started filming.
Just to clarify, when I say I was thrown under the bus, that is because my partner had gotten an Adderall prescription for the show and was living off his fat. Because he made it and I didn't, they rewrote the story. They set up a tripod and deleted me out of building the shelter. It took us hours, making cordage and tying shit together. Then they made sure to not show a single thing i did, like sharing some of the coconuts with Matt, sharing buriti, berries, etc. Omitted my fishbasket, the birds I stole from a nest, the 24 hour toxicity test on the cactus we were both eating...they made it look like he was just eating cactus and I wasn't. They also omitted everything he said during our argument, showed me calling him names, cut to a commercial, and repeated the scene.
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1ヶ月前 (6子コメント)
I appreciate your honesty. Which is exactly why I'm not sorry, because I don't believe in apologizing for things one isn't sorry for, like going to a Catholic confessional. I don't buy into that perennial philosophy. For instance, I apologized to Matt in Brazil because I was sorry. In this case, absolutely not. The show is very contrived, producers denied me my kidney meds, Luke stole my bowdrill, I was pissed. They weren't going to die because it's a contrived TV show. They were being assholes, and like I said before, I went all out FUCK You. It was a simultaneous FUCK YOU to both they guys and the show. No regrets. No apologies. Like I told Luke, you don't force apologies out of people. They should be made out of sincerity.
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1ヶ月前* (5子コメント)
The crew is supposed to leave us alone, but tbh this time around they were chit chatting it up. There was this one cameraman, super cool, he'd bring in ideas to our group. One time, I was fishing in the river with my bag and realized we needed a big flat basket to scoop because funnels weren't working. When I mentioned it to the guys, they were completely dismissive of the idea (which aucked because I was the one collecting vines for the baskets and they just kept taking them). But then the cameraman said that that's what the locals did, a couple days later, and all of a sudden it was a good idea.
The producers have very specific questions so they can get specific answers. They ask us to repeat answers certain ways using certain words. They do have a bit of a script in mind, but they try to plant ideas and work the words out usingtypical directing techniques.
They didn't make Luke give me back my bowdrill, and they made me "point out" where I'd thrown the tools. They also made Chris give me back the machete and then redid the scene so it looked like Luke made him do it. I was pretty much just like, all out FUCK YOU, and I think the producers were a little pissed (but simultaneously stoked because they like drama).
In Brazil, the argument was egged on by the producer. He was like, " Matt's bothering you, why don't you talk about it. It's obvious. You should confront him." Then after the argument, he was all like, "that is totally being used, it was great."
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1ヶ月前* (4子コメント)
I was contacted for XL around Thanksgiving. I had just started to get back to my normal weight after a massive weight gain rebound post-starvation in Brazil. So I started eating tons of food and cut back on my exercise. For Brazil, I had gained about 10 pounds but was a little self conscious and was still swimming a lot, so it was mostly muscle. This time, I cut back on exercise to lower my metabolism and gained 25 pounds of fat.
We bring 4 items and the producers pick for us. In this case, they actually provided a couple of our items just to create a surprise and fuck with us. It's a 2 month conversation, back and forth, prior to traveling, about what 4 items to bring.
I have studied archery since I was a kid, and studied long bow archery in Japan as a post grad after highschool. I've been hunting since I was a kid and my parents taught me how to field dress a deer around age 9 or 10. I am an herbologist and I spend a lot of time outdoors. I mountaineer, climb big walls, long distance swim. I've spent quite a few years of my adulthood sort of roaming because of a couple past experiences that resulted in homelessness. One of those times was when the house my two bros lived in burned down, and I helped them relocate. So we were a little tribe of nomads for a while. Our parents ditched out when we were teens and our mom committed credit fraud with two of our names, so none of us 3 have had a parental financial net to ever back into, if that makes sense at all. I've spent my whole life pretty much surviving and pulling myself up from my bootstraps, as well as rescuing my bros repeatedly.
The term survivalist is a crock, in my opinion. I'm just a theater major, massage therapist, and herbalist who does badass shit.
I have no idea why I did it again. They totally threw me under the bus with my first edit. I guess it was kind of a mild sense of extortion, tbh. XL paid a little more.
[–]dcompare 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 1ヶ月前 (3子コメント)
So extortion means well paying offer? She is such a victim. That poor girl.
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[–]Jamaican_In_NY 18ポイント19ポイント20ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
Don't stick your dick in crazy.
[–]tanstaafl90 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Words of wisdom.
[+]secretgspot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
when you sign a contract, it states that they reserve the right to portrait you in whatever light they choose and that editing will be done to fit some sort of story line.
[–]Janedoeraeme 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
Honora has been honest about her bio and what she perceives happened on the show. She's actually pretty cool. But at the same time, she's also a psycho bitch to those she sees as attacking her, real or imagined. She's failed to disclose that she's bi-polar and has been previously 5150'd and should have never been allowed to participate in such a show for her own safety and for the safety of those around her.
[–]hottequilabrown 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
how do you know this? super curious. she doesn't seem stable
[–]timevampire88 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
It still shocks and amazes me how Honora flipped her lid like that. I mean, look at Shane, the man, by his own admission was thisclose to become a deranged psycho or something, but HE held it together better (and longer) that Honora. The guy has his faults, no doubt, but compared to Honora, the man is certifiably sane. Sane Shane.
[–]Rabbyte808 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1ヶ月前 (4子コメント)
After reading those, she's either an insane, delusional liar, or Discovery has essentially made Survivor 2.0
[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
Seems like a little bit of both. It sounds like she has an interest in making Discovery look bad and would likely fabricate things to make them look worse. Also, there has to be some truth to what she is saying. It's probably somewhere in the middle.
[–]kenaireb 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Agreed. I felt sorry for her if what she says about her parents is true, but at some point, you own your own actions. I get that Discovery wants a little drama, but adding two obviously unstable personalities into the mix (the other being Shane) not once but twice, no less, is bordering on irresponsible.
[–]cheezypoof97 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10898012_1535746440015691_2949117323589951007_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=05cba61002a7c4117924684c6342d36f&oe=56113C10&__gda__=1443883642_86379d57b91f6376aae70ecff6213ddd
Explain??? Twas not in episode
[–]CocoTheEnforcer 14ポイント15ポイント16ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
You know, it's funny. She keeps complaining about censorship and editing and how the producers purposely made her look insane by editing everything, yet I've noticed that if you try to write anything negative about her on her Facebook "fan page," she deletes it. And it's not just name calling and cruel comments she deletes. I literally just asked her "why were you so mean to Matt? He seemed like a decent guy," and she deleted that. She's such a hypocrite. You can't complain about editing and in the next breath, delete every single comment from people. The only comments she keeps is "Honora, you're so sexy." "Honora, you're such a beautiful person."
I then posted a long comment about her obvious mental illness and how she's incapable of acknowledging that everything that happens to her is a direct result of her own actions and that she needs to stop blaming everyone else for her life. Then deleted that and she blocked my ability to comment on her posts. She's delusional. And a train wreck of a person. She gives women a bad name.
[–]ALexusOhHaiNyan 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1ヶ月前* (0子コメント)
I then posted a long comment about her obvious mental illness and how she's incapable of acknowledging that everything that happens to her is a direct result of her own actions and that she needs to stop blaming everyone else for her life.
Amen. Her and Shane should do a show - Naked And Afraid : Asshole Edition.
It's funny how the very thing that attracts certain people to survival skills is what makes them horrible survivalists with someone else - "Lone Wolf" mentality if you will.
It's not like "it's edited!" is anything new to reality tv. I mean yes, it is edited, etc. But also why is it that the first people to say how "fake" it is are the biggest assholes? I mean - you did and said those things, bottom line. You threw that shit in the river, made everything about your feelings, and refused to apologize. That's a jerk any way you slice it.
Also I like the subtle jealousy honora reveals about the others getting too much tv time. Maybe that's why she pulled that batshit tool sprint to the river...
[–]WinstonWolfe502 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Fascinating......
[–]NOT000 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
after reading all that, shes still a twat
[–]SwampRaider 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
I won't really judge anything yet, but damn. Discovery better say something. After what they did to Cody Lundin I..lost a lot of respect for them..but i always liked the premise of N&A
[–]hottequilabrown -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10898012_1535746440015691_2949117323589951007_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=05cba61002a7c4117924684c6342d36f&oe=56113C10&__gda__=1443883642_86379d57b91f6376aae70ecff6213ddd what happened to cody?
[–]kuyakew 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Honora's PR has been a fucking nuclear disaster so far.
[–]cheezypoof97 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1ヶ月前* (6子コメント)
Here's the thread that her ex (bf? I thought she liked chics...maybe ex gf) had up before...also saved it! F**kin' fascinating if you ask me....
Why Naked and Afraid is as Fake as Any Other Discovery Channel Documentary
Facts from “Dunes of Despair,” Season 3, Episode 11
The magnifying glass was bought by a PA in Brazil. Honora brought 3 knives and a water filter and Matt brought 4 knives. They are supposed to bring 4 items each. Production wanted one of them to bring a fire starter. They liked Honora’s story about her dad passing away, and opted to find her a magnifying glass. They presented her with a cheap plastic magnifying glass and a flint on a key chain and gave her her pick.
Honora was asked to repeat her lines every time she referred to the glass as “the magnifying glass,” and was told to call it her “dad’s magnifying glass.”
All scenes pertaining to the magnifying glass belonging to her dad were scripted.
The editors specifically cut Honora out of shelter building. It was a multi-hour project that involved cordage-making on both Honora and Matt’s parts. Honora also used her legs to flatten out 300 cubic feet of sand on the floor of their shelter, which is evident on any clip of the shelter if you pause it.
The locust that Matt gave Honora actually fell onto the cameraman, Jessie. He threw it at Matt and started recording.
Honora found 5 coconuts while in Brazil. One was eaten completely off camera. The first two were found together and were shared with Matt. None of that was shown. However, there is a photo out there on the internet of Matt and Honora sitting on one of the mats she wove, with two coconuts between them.
Honora found about 20 buriti (moriche) fruit in the lagoons while in Brazil. Most of these were shared with Matt. (The orange around her face during her tap out was from the buriti). It was not until about day 13 that she stopped sharing food with him.
Both Matt and Honora were eating cactus. Honora did a 24-hour toxicity test on the cactus prior to them deeming it safe.
Honora found three baby blackbirds in a nest and killed two of them for food. They were caught late in the day and only half-way cured with the magnifying glass/sunlight. Matt and Honora attempted to start a fire but the sun went down. The birds became bait in her fish funnel trap.
Honora made a fish funnel trap in Brazil.
The producer egged Honora and Matt on until they had an argument. They edited Matt's part of the argument out.
None of these things were shown and the story was re-written because Matt was on amphetamines and they could not adequately explain why everything happened the way it did without blowing the story. Hence, they fabricated a storyline.
Ok, got it? Here's more:
Facts from Colombia, Naked and Afraid XL
Honora showed up in Colombia with a prescription for salt and electrolytes for her kidneys.
The producers told her they could not honor the prescription because it would not be fair to the other cast members.
Upon starting the challenge, Honora discovered that Luke had two bottles of homemade tincture, comprised of alcohol, fish oil, herbs, and other unknown ingredients. His brother made it for him and he was allowed to take it at-will as a substitute for Malarone, the anti-malarial medication that was prescribed to most of the cast members.
Upon starting the challenge, Chris told Honora that another (vegetarian) cast member was allowed to take B-vitamins. A producer informed Honora, when she told production they needed to honor her prescription out in the field, that many of the cast members had supplements.
Honora tried to leave the challenge on Day 5, prior to any arguments occurring, due to intense kidney point pain. The producers asked her to stay another day.
Day 6 was the day that everything was thrown into the river, and also the day that Honora left the challenge.
On the morning of Day 6, Honora had eaten a Malarone pill about 15 minutes prior to the argument occurring. All the other days, she had eaten it at night because of the severe side-effects of the drug on her system.
On Day 6, after leaving the challenge, a doctor told Honora to immediately stop taking Malarone because of its contraindication for people with kidney problems.
The show is a joke. Or more like a science experiment.
[–]dcompare 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 1ヶ月前 (3子コメント)
Funny how sections are word for word what Honora posted.
[–]1r1d3sc3nt[S] 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
i know right? also account seems to be made just to respond to this thread.
Hi Hanora.
[–]prodevel 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Except one talks in the third person and yours in the first person. Funny how that works.
[–]crybannanna 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
I love the narrative that these people are somehow forced to make shit up... As if they aren't at least complicit in any lies they are shown telling.
If someone on a reality show is handed a script that makes them look like a batshit crazy asshole, maybe it's best not to go along with that.
[+]secretgspot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-17ポイント-16ポイント-15ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
you people fail to realize that these shows ARE NOT A JOKE! This is not a walk in the park and WILD ANIMALS CAN AND WILL KILL YOU! Just because you have camera crew around you, doesn't mean you're safe and won't die.
Hey, look, it's a tiger, I'll go pet it with my hand.
[+]secretgspot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9ポイント-8ポイント-7ポイント 1ヶ月前 (9子コメント)
why did they let her back on the show after first irresponsible attempt?
[–]tanstaafl90 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1ヶ月前 (2子コメント)
Ratings
[–]thritter 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
Yep, ratings. Honora's a nutbag with borderline personality disorder. But I'm the one reading Facebook and Reddit about her, so...my bad.
[–]tanstaafl90 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1ヶ月前 (0子コメント)
Just finished the episode and I was curious. Not surprised to find her name plastered all over the sub about the show. She's using the show to gain some sort of celebrity status. Outside of those that watch the show she's nobody. As it will continue to be.
[–]tfresca 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1ヶ月前 (5子コメント)
If the show was so shitty to her why would she go back a second time. Does not compute.
[+]secretgspot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11ポイント-10ポイント-9ポイント 1ヶ月前 (4子コメント)
I think it's failed expectations.. she probably saw a path to reality tv life but then when everyone sort-of ignored her, she cracked.
If that's story about Magnifying Glass is true and that it was Discovery who gave it to her, then she has some points and they can't really pick on her for ratings while everyone else gets shown in good light.
[–]tfresca 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1ヶ月前 (3子コメント)
The thing I like about the show is they don't seem to mind making it boring. The couple who had bad bug illnesses when they got him were boring and got along. I just don't buy that they fucked with her and not all those other people.
[+]secretgspot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-24ポイント-23ポイント-22ポイント 1ヶ月前 (2子コメント)
unless she was the first after producers were told to deliver some drama. Either way, I think the way 2 guys shunned her out and made her tap out is very dickish, even if she acted like a typical immature girl by throwing things into water which they were able to recover.
She did act very stupid in first episode by being strubborn and staying in the sun, but that is no excuse for the latest behavior of the two guys.
2, 40 days.. two girls and a guy who likes to kill things, I understand his position and once again Producers are trying to paint him as a black sheep of the group when the reality is, those two women would not last a week on their own and we'll see that in coming episodes. Honora from what I've seen is very resourceful even with her silly mistakes.
Only few girls on the show are really good and know what they are doing, the rest of them are moochers who think they came on vacation and that nagging a guy will make him bend backwards for them.
I love the way he told them that he built his own little lodge and is now moving :D
[–]ragnaROCKERmostly naked and partially afraid 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1ヶ月前 (1子コメント)
well concerning the two girls and shane, accourding to one of the girls (Dani B) a lot of what we saw was contrived.
WHOAAAH, I guess shit has hit the fan and I've missed all of it. Looks like everyone to show their good side by blaming someone else.
In the end, more and more it turns out that anything on TV is fake and scripted. Just like 99.9% of singers lip-sync
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