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[–]Rkthawik 181ポイント182ポイント  (37子コメント)

Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your stream content in my youtube videos.

[–]HoshinoRuri 68ポイント69ポイント  (4子コメント)

Ｈｅｌｌｏ．　Ｉ　ａｍ　ｎｏｏｂｆｒｏｍｕａ．Ｉ　ｗａｎｔｅｄ　ｔｏ　ａｓｋ　ｉｆ　ｙｏｕ　ｇｉｖｅ　ｍｅ　ｐｅｒｍｉｓｓｉｏｎ　ｔｏ　ｓｏｍｅｔｉｍｅｓ　ｕｓｅ　ｙｏｕｒ　ｓｔｒｅａｍ　ｃｏｎｔｅｎｔ　ｉｎ　ｍｙ　ｙｏｕｔｕｂｅ　ｖｉｄｅｏｓ．

[–]u wot m8kcmyk 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

We need to learn how to monetize memes.

[–]fjallajokullloki 16ポイント17ポイント  (23子コメント)

Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your stream content in my youtube videos.

[–]Ambassador_Buta 48ポイント49ポイント  (21子コメント)

˙soǝpᴉʌ ǝqnʇnoʎ ʎɯ uᴉ ʇuǝʇuoɔ ɯɐǝɹʇs ɹnoʎ ǝsn sǝɯᴉʇǝɯos oʇ uoᴉssᴉɯɹǝd ǝɯ ǝʌᴉƃ noʎ ɟᴉ ʞsɐ oʇ pǝʇuɐʍ I ˙ɐnɯoɹɟqoou ɯɐ I ˙ollǝH

[–]fjallajokullloki 3ポイント4ポイント  (17子コメント)

Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your comment in my youtube videos.

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    [–]Oh, look, a bounty rune!LensBlair 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hello. Its me ur brother. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes borrow your immortals. Sir?

    [–]rubikscube09 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Hello. My name is eternal envy. You killed my stream. Prepare to die

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      [–]EE fanshit, fuck teams.Kuro013 86ポイント87ポイント  (40子コメント)

      https://twitter.com/EternaLEnVy1991/status/640693312257687552 ee sama pls

      [–]monchee3 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Denied.

      [–]TweetsInCommentsBot 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

      @EternaLEnVy1991

      2015-09-07 01:09 UTC

      @NoobFromUA nope ._.

      This message was created by a bot

      [Contact creator][Source code]

      [–]fjallajokullloki 26ポイント27ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your comment in my youtube videos.

      [–]ugu 3.2k-chan~Dahvokyn 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

      nope ._.

      [–]Fuck Magic!nakulmhatre [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Hello it's me, your brother! I need your videos and arcanas!

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        [–]Learn2Buy 32ポイント33ポイント  (15子コメント)

        Yeah and a dozen other content rippers are just going to do it anyway. Good job EE, now instead of viewing NUA's channel we have to watch some other random channel.

        [–]Muntberg 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

        Did you see Magikarp's EE video? It was great.

        [–]THE SULTAN OF PUSHNoodleNonger 36ポイント37ポイント  (6子コメント)

        I was wondering when someone would bring up Magikarp. He literally does the same thing but he adds text and focuses on comedy instead of things like big plays. I enjoy his videos of course - just wondered how long it'd take for someone to bring him up.

        [–]Muntberg 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He also does it a bit differently. He goes back into archives and makes highlights and stuff, clips that no streamer will ever be using.

        NoobfromUA on the other hand works on getting things out as soon as possible, which could undercut people looking to use their own content.

        [–]goldrogers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Magikarp's videos tend to veer more into the parody-ish territory, so from a legal standpoint I think he might be in a stronger position than NUA.

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          [–]I random in Ranked, don't report me plsHeratikus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Funny you should mention Magikarp, because EE has brought it up on stream before and he said he liked it.

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                [–]Diggle_Egg 167ポイント168ポイント  (12子コメント)

                I am a simple man. I see drama, I click upvote.

                [–]HotShot888 36ポイント37ポイント  (9子コメント)

                I am a complex man. I don't see deep philosophical discussions on the meaning of life, I don't vote

                [–]trutheality 46ポイント47ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Value is created, not discovered, and by deliberate non-participation you abstain from the creation proccess and thereby are deprived of meaning.

                Your complexity has spiralled you into a catch-22 of meaninglessness, is what I'm saying.

                [–]accol33t 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                ☐ Not REKT ☑ REKT

                [–]snowywish 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Who are you saying "rekt" to? All I see is a meaningless non-existence.

                [–]stGrumbles [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                What is the possibility for the condition of value though? In order for value to exist a vessel must hold it, but value does not come from personal experience alone. In witnessing a conversation such that a deeper meaning can be derived from the individuals within the exchange a spectator may also be able to derive the same conclusion or another through their lens.

                [–]PotatorunnerAnna_the_potato 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I am an imaginary woman. I

                [–]JackDragon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                I am a simple man. I see pitchforks raised, I raise pitchfork.

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                  [–]poisada 110ポイント111ポイント  (31子コメント)

                  if all pro player streamers uploaded every fun and cool highlight in their streams, sure, but they dont. I really like highlight videos, and i kind of see it as a disservice to many fans, (fans who spend hundreds of dollars on pro players pricepools) if those moments are just stuck in shitty twitch vods. Sure, he should definetely ask before using footage from their streams, but at the same time i dont get why those streamers have to be so pissy about it. Eternalenvy just said "no" when he asked, and its like why? what the fuck is he losing on this exactly. Like, the people who enjoy watching these highlight videos are the ones who are screwed over the most if these highlights arent uploaded. these pro players only think so much of them fucking selves that they are gonna get hurt by some video of highlights in their streams- which they dont even upload themselves.

                  Valve is a cool company that organize big touranments for these pro players, and they allow people to use footage from their games in youtube videos and on twitch. Why cant these "professionals" show the same level of coolness as the company who created the game they are making hundreds of thousands of dollars off of?

                  [–]USA USA USAHaaselh0ff 58ポイント59ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  THIS. I actually refuse to watch Twitch Vods because of how shitty they are sometimes. Highlights are always appreciated and Noob always delivers.

                  [–]alibabababaali 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                  Exactly! The audio from twitch vod is likely muted as well, they're not doing what they preach. Calling out people who steal their content yet stealing music artists content, bunch of hypocrite. I am never watching their stream again to boost their egos.

                  Props to NFUA for providing fast and good highlights.

                  [–]DivineDimSum [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  I support this view.

                  [–]I'm a fangay and proudFatalFirecrotch [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                  What the fuck is he losing? The rights to his image. It is the same reason that MJ just won over $8 million in court case over an ad using his image.

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                    [–]Diavolo222 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    He uploads pro players stream highlights more rarely than the bandwagoners would have you think. He mostly uploads tournie highlights. There are channels out there who their only content is making stream highlights of pro players. But yet he is the one getting called out.

                    This is pros going full retard at its finest if you ask me.

                    [–]FeedTheBats 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He just deleted them all

                    rofl what a guy

                    [–]kashbra 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    Probably because streamers are too lazy to edit and post videos up? I barely see Youtuber's post Dendi's highlights anymore because he does it on his own channel, however I see plenty of other streamer's highlights on Youtube because they don't do it themselves.

                    It only becomes a problem when he starts to make good money out of it, where were all these complaints when he had 50k subs? 100k subs?

                    [–]OuterHeaven- 41ポイント42ポイント  (8子コメント)

                    The issue is that some players/studios had already asked him not to do it and he would still upload their shit, and to play devil's advocate to the " free advertisement" argument, you could also say that people instead of tune into the stream would just rather watch a TL;DR version of it cause they don't feel like watching a stream for 8 hours, and the ones that didn't say anything didn't get asked about it, whenever you're making money off of someone elses creation WITHOUT consulting them, it gives them every right denie your rights to use.

                    And the fact that he's acting like a passive aggressive victim makes him look even more shady and more of a leech.

                    [–]NZKr4zyK1w1 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

                    People don't watch an 8 hour steam because they 'don't feel like it', they don't watch it because they have other commitments lol.

                    [–]Diavolo222 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    Children will find out at some point that you cant just stay at home with your mommy and watch streams all day.

                    [–]1,C9,3,Xboct,5,6,Bone7...teamfailz [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                    And adults should know that monetizing other peoples work without permission is wrong.

                    [–]Diavolo222 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                    He uploads pro players stream highlights more rarely than the bandwagoners would have you think. He mostly uploads tournie highlights. There are channels out there who their only content is making stream highlights of pro players. But yet he is the one getting called out.

                    [–]joelthezombie15 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    No. I watched a noob from us thing a while ago because I didn't feel like watching 8 hours of it.

                    This was before all this shady shit though.

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                      [–]randomkidlol 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Hello. I am /u/randomkidlol. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your twitter content in my reddit shitposts.

                      [–]Alright IceFrog time to buff TBAYBJunger 51ポイント52ポイント  (29子コメント)

                      "Fucking NoobfromUA doesn't ask for permission"

                      *Apologizes, asks everyone for permission

                      "What a publicity stunt, fucking sleazebag cocksucker Ukrainian fuck. My local pro player still doesn't like him. I bet he hates Jews."

                      [–]Secret1egoman 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

                      asks everyone for permission

                      He didn't have to do so publicly. He was public about it so that he could play the victim.

                      [–]shiocheerio 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      He was called out publicly, its not unnatural he would act the same way.

                      [–]Diavolo222 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      So instead of a personal message he gets called out publicly by these kids when there are hundreds of dota 2 channels that do the exact same thing and you want him to what just sit there and take it ? Jesus you people.

                      [–]hontrash, best trash! moonmeander es mi pastor.Tyestor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      He didn't have to do so publicly.

                      It's faster to just tweet people.

                      He was public about it so that he could play the victim.

                      Nice psychoanalysis.

                      [–]s3rosyn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Actually I'm not convinced he knows any other way to contact these streamers. He's so wildly unprofessional I think it's reasonable to think that he uses Twitter not because he's being devious but because he doesn't know any other way.

                      [–]BLEEDBLUEbmf_bane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      I suppose, but do we really expect him to have all of the players details to ask? Not like he can DM them unless they follow him back on Twitter.

                      [–]Alright IceFrog time to buff TBAYBJunger 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      And asking him to stop posting videos of content publicly is ok?

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                          [–]wnstjr98 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          well.. there lots stream highlights channel on youtube

                          [–]Frustrasian [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          I like NUA. I like his highlight videos and no retarded long intros(think DC and Hexor) I like highlight videos so much because I don't usually have the time to watch my favorite player's whole stream. Even when I can I have to stay up till 4 in the morning cause I live in AU.

                          [–]http://steamcommunity.com/id/RVJATL/TheAlmightyLoaf 126ポイント127ポイント  (133子コメント)

                          The content he uploads is really good though. Don't understand why he is getting so much shit. Most of these players don't even upload their own content.

                          [–]insty1 113ポイント114ポイント  (108子コメント)

                          Because he never asked for permission and made money off their content?

                          [–]chiara_t 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          Idk he can just make videos from replays from dota client from now on and suddenly 0 problem. Who owns dota replay content? The 10 players who played that game? Rofl.

                          [–]dotr 59ポイント60ポイント  (24子コメント)

                          As a viewer I really don't give a rats ass about who is making money, all I know is that NoobFromUA is fast as hell and makes good videos without retarded 15 second long intros/outros.

                          [–]Nuke fanHHhunter 45ポイント46ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          “Im totally ignorant to what is really happening and that will be a valid defense to beat his arguments"

                          [–]Hzlturtl [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          Not caring about something is not the same as not being aware of it.

                          [–]enfrozt [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                          You're in a time where the best service wins. The only channel that somewhat rivals these "content-stealers" is bulldogs channel because he uploads almost every day, and right after he streams, with no intro, and a nice light outro.

                          Let's assume noob steals from replays, which are publicly available, I see nothing wrong.

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                            [–]Icesens 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            But... but you don't understand, them poor pro gamers are starving, they cannot have what they have left stolen

                            [–]moonduck is honestly the worst case of XD RANDOM i've seen here.GetTold 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            ;_;

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                              [–]The_Turts 11ポイント12ポイント  (21子コメント)

                              They weren't going to make money off of it anyway if they were to just leave it in their Twitch Vods.

                              They should be thanking him for the exposure.

                              [–]hreterh [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                              They weren't going to make money off of it anyway if they were to just leave it in their Twitch Vods.

                              What the fuck? How the fuck could that justify taking others content for your own monetary gain? ROFL

                              [–]nastyninja43 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              This appears to be NUA's stance, although the circlejerk appears to disagree, as do the players who have actually spoken out.

                              AFAIK nobody has come out and said "I don't mind if you use content from my stream", but I am curious to know how other streamers feel about this.

                              [–]loveleeyh 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Singsing and Bulldog do have Youtube channels that they upload their content onto, also EE is going to aswell. And RTZ used to upload full stream VODS too

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                                [–]kedstar99 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Does the content belong to the streamers? Sure, you can't just rip the stream/audio and use it for his videos. However, nothing stops him from doing the exact same thing by watching the replays from their perspective.

                                [–]A vote for Zeus is a vote for humanitySkimGaming 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                well, thats no problem, but usually the actual highlight is from the audio, which he definitely records from the actual stream and not the replay (which is impossible)

                                The bigger fuckup is magikarpdota tho, his channel is full of ripped off content

                                [–]Nobody enjoys playing against potmsomethingToDoWithMe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                RTZ wants to settle that at the moment actually.

                                [–]Darkling5499 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                isn't it technically Valve's content? Or Twitch's content?

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                                  [–]Nobody enjoys playing against potmsomethingToDoWithMe 16ポイント17ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                  The players at least own their own identity and the stuff that they broadcast. Is it really that weird that someone would have a problem with someone releasing that stuff under their own name? If he was just uploading a replay of the game instead of the stream it self, it would be fine.

                                  [–]InjusticeSociety101 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  He has been called out before, this isn't the first time honestly. I can see both sides of the argument. He is only getting called out because he hasn't asked permission from these players. This is gonna start something with all these YouTube content creators basically ripping off the players. It would be a different situation if he actually asked zai for permission and shared a part of the cut with him. That is it...

                                  [–]NovaStalker_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  And that is their right. The fact that they don't upload it does not give carte blanche to the vultures.

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                                    [–]connormcwood [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    He has deleted it hasn't he?

                                    The thing is, this has been on reddit so many times. Today isn't the only day. Everyone will forget about it next week or so when there is someone else to hate.

                                    If the pros are really bothered then please file for copyright infringement if its a direct rip of your stream. If it isn't then I don't think you can do jackshit about it

                                    [–]TajesMahoney [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    Let me just pitch you a scenario. Noob, or some other fan with the free time, volunteers his services to Navi, RTZ, and the most popular replay people. He rips their content, does the editing, and uploads it to THEIR channel. They pay him a service fee. Wouldn't that be great for everyone?

                                    [–]_PM_ME_YOUR_DOGECOIN [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                    Le why are people steaaeaeaeeaeling the content I stream out to everyone for free for anyone to record with no restrictions?!?!!? WHY IS THE INTERNET SO MEEANEANANANANANANA TO MEEEEEE.

                                    Fucking idiots.

                                    [–]ingrum 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                    one thing i dont understand about this situation, is why is NUA the one getting shit on? He barely ever takes direct from stream footage like this. Most of his videos are tournament highlights (ingame footage, no stream footage) or sent to him pub montages.

                                    I subscribe to NUA and I wont unsubscribe ever (probably). He puts out good filler. He pulled some shit in the past and some people got their ass hurt (namely BTS), but he's not the problem here. The problem is all those random smaller channels ripping full streams/pro games directly from twitch, which actually matters.

                                    [–]SirBelvedere 39ポイント40ポイント  (30子コメント)

                                    What is really sad is that NoobFromUA is playing the victim card here to gain sympathy from the audience and we are actually falling for that.

                                    In addition, every move he's made since this issue started popping up have all been with the intention of mocking the entire issue or on that border line. Kinda shows how easy it is for him to think he can go the rebel way with it and still have support because he is presuming that we are big enough emotional assholes who can be easily manipulated in to doing so.

                                    This issue came up many many times before and it will continue to many times after. And if it's one that keeps recurring, then there clearly is a problem and one party is always involved.

                                    The concept is simple - if the content creator is not cool with you using his work to earn money - then you don't fucking do it. Simple as that.

                                    Sure, there are no formal regulation to enforce that perfectly RIGHT NOW .. but thanks to you constantly being a dickwad about it, there will eventually be. When that happens, not only will you fuck yourself entirely but so much more in the process. Good thing - idiots like Hexor will get ripped. Bad thing - any budding video maker (not reuploader .. but a video maker) will find it ten times harder to do grow.

                                    In a way, let this drama happen and let NoobFromUA react like this. This issue was brought up with Valve many times in the past. More scenarios will like this will actually force them in to making the move. Good.

                                    [–]Dramatoph1980 24ポイント25ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                    NoobFromUA is a noob. And pro players are hypocrites for monetizing their streams while playing copyrighted music non-stop. Sure, it doesn't apply to all of them, but it sure applies to several if not most.

                                    [–]PiNGu_ 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                    I really don't think him playing the victim has anything to do with who supports and who doesn't. People see him as a service provider, they get to see the highlights of their players and he gets viewership for his channel.

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                                      [–]arts_degree_huehue 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                      Lol the balls on this guy

                                      [–]P P D B O Y SMoastlyMoaste 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                      File a DMCA claim, NoobfromUA can upload replays cant he?

                                      [–]rock solidfalapeli 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      Yeah the stream itself (with webcam and all) is the streamers content but the gameplay is free for all as far as I know.

                                      [–]Mang0King 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      He can 100% up load ingame replays as that is covered in valves video policy.

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                                        [–]Fwomphxsolar66 21ポイント22ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                        NoobFromUA does so much for this community. The highlight videos are always on point and FAST, without any of the fancy bells and whistles attached. If there's anyone who deserves access to dota 2 content, he's the guy.

                                        [–]mainstreamlolplayer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                        Oh another one of the guys who got emotionally attached to a person that gives him entertainment to the point of defending him with the argument of "he does good" ignoring anything bad that he has done.

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                                          [–]demon_eater 57ポイント58ポイント  (107子コメント)

                                          I don't get why streamers are that pissed off. The highlights would not be posted otherwise, and it lets in new viewers. Like I didn't start watching bulldog's stream until I seen one of noob's highlight videos.

                                          It's like free advertising...

                                          [–]brollebol 47ポイント48ポイント  (23子コメント)

                                          It's like free advertising...

                                          This is a very slippery slope, think about it as an unpaid internship where instead of free advertisement you get "job experience" and it doesn't sound so appealing all of a sudden. If somebody is making money off your work you should have the option to see a percentage of that.

                                          [–]Almighty then.theloosecanon 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                          wait, so like, all the archived VODs people used to link from singsing's stream last year never happened?

                                          [–]PLS NO THROWthundrfang 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          SingSing and Bulldog both have highlights on their YouTube channels, but as for the other ones I completely agree with you.

                                          [–]kappa123454321 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I agree man why can't I record soccer or Nfl matches and upload them to youtube and get free money for them. I mean im adding value to the video by using this dank overlay to avood copyright protection and its not like it hurts these organizations profits

                                          its basically free advertising for them right

                                          [–]IAMBollock 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                          It's like free advertising...

                                          It's not the premise of what Noob is doing that's wrong, I'm sure they realise it's good for their channel, it's just the way he's going about it. He's big enough now to be professional about the way he runs his channel.

                                          [–]demon_eater [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                                          Just google it you don't have to ask for permission to use a coke can. There are laws in which movies can have brands and even artwork if it's deemed accidental or has no meaning. The real reason filmmakers don't actively use brands is so they can have companies pay them to have their products in it.

                                          [–]GManSta 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                          its mostly unsuccessful people in the dota scene Keepo

                                          [–]1K MMR BEST K MMRGunsTheGlorious 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                          I was boutta let rip the flame but then I saw the keepo keep shitposting m8 keep fighting the good fight

                                          [–]youtube.com/thevoices297TheVoices297 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                          No the free advertisement might work if this wasn't on youtube but since it is we have data points from people who left MCNs and let others post their content. It never leads to the other person getting the viewership they would have if they didn't upload it to the other place and they only get a sliver of run off that even look for the original content maker. This is nothing more than justification for taking without asking. You are the same assholes who ask people for artwork and other goods as a exposure pieces when that also fails in the real market.

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                                            [–]AlucardSensei 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Well, this is gonna be buried, but I'm pretty sure his content falls under fair use, so he shouldn't even have to ask for permission from anyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_v._Arriba_Soft_Corp. is similar, especially the part about thumbnails not guiding people away from original work, but instead to it.

                                            [–]5.73att/sSultanified 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            If nfua shuts down 90% of the d2 community will have nothing on their subscription feed

                                            [–]Sproing!psiph [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                                            By the logic of the streamers, at the start of every game shouldn't they ask the other 9 players they're playing with if they can stream their plays on Twitch (which all the pro streamers make money off of anyway)?

                                            [–]theillegalgiantbenji1the1dog 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            What NfUA does isn't illegal. He may get fire from all of these streamers but we live in a competitive world where the best/cheapest/easiest option often wins.

                                            The fact he is doing this will only lose streamers views on YouTube and thus their streams. You guys can put him under fire all you want but there's a reason we all watch his videos and I personally hope he doesn't stop making them.

                                            [–]MarsTV_Mali 22ポイント23ポイント  (15子コメント)

                                            "sometimes"

                                            [–]PLS NO THROWthundrfang 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            It is only sometimes. He uploads a streamer's content about once a month, not multiple times a week like someone like Magikarp does.

                                            [–]Diavolo222 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            He uploads pro players stream highlights more rarely than the bandwagoners would have you think. He mostly uploads tournie highlights. There are channels out there who their only content is making stream highlights of pro players. But yet he is the one getting called out.

                                            I would have thought you would be more intelligent than this. But looks like when the chips are down, most dota 2 personalities are just kids trying to make money from a video game.

                                            [–]SqLISTHESHIT 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Every personality on the scene is riding so hard the NFUA hate train cuz none of them can actually make something similar to what he does. You could argue that it is not so hard to do it, yet nobody seems to care.

                                            [–]phantomash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            Its actually not easy though, he's doing it so fast on demand yet with high quality, his editing is on point, not many can do what he's doing. Its why he's so successful despite many doing the same thing.

                                            [–]MarsTV_Mali [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                            First of all, I don't see myself as a personality. Secondly, I'm still not sure what to think about this whole situation. I certainly do not like how NoobfromUA reacts when such situation happens. However, I kind of like to see highlights like these.

                                            Like I wouldn't want to watch the whole replay to find "The Play" from NaVi vs iG at TI2. I would prefer to have a 30-second video or so, but it's true that he should have the approval of the streamers/tournament organizers.

                                            [–]JakMon777 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            It's not like he's uploading entire streams. What word would you find more appropriate here?

                                            [–]always_noided 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                            Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to always use your stream content in my youtube videos.

                                            [–]armin199 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            I mean hey it's not like there are hundreds of channels doing the exact same thing as he does...

                                            [–]trutheality 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            "Sometimes" and "always" are only distinguishable in hindsight.

                                            [–]spanky12493 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            is that not the appropriate word to use? what word would you use?

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                                              [–]Death and I, we have an understandingPravaris 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                              Will SingSing be the one to say yes? What sort of drama awaits us?

                                              Find out next time on the Daily Reddit Front Page!

                                              [–]Ice cold? More like ice trolled.Kaghuros [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              Sing actually makes his own highlight videos, so NfUA is competing with him directly. Bulldog does too IIRC.

                                              [–]wuubikk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              This is the whole new level of "hey its me ur brother"

                                              [–]HellzBells 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              How are so many people upset about getting such publicity? A lot of people don't really have the time to watch every stream / catch every highlight. From a viewers perspective these videos actually give me a better idea of which streams to watch / what players to follow.

                                              [–]b4nanita 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              The day in wich redditors became lawyers will be remembered

                                              [–]Pls buff waterboyZenode 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              I think an argument Zyori made was that he was even doing it for tournaments. The people casting and such where too busy casting/working the tournament to actually upload highlights, but noobfromua went and uploaded them anyway.

                                              [–]Kaldricus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              Watching the birth of a meme is truly a thing of wonder, a thing of beauty, a thing of ayyy lmao

                                              [–]astoradota [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              sometimes friends and I will watch noobfromua videos then feel like watching the streams afterwards for more gameplay. some pro players are just being arrogant

                                              [–]dirtyrata [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              Everyone enjoys his videos. He's doing a lot of hard work. Hopefully most streamers are going to be ok with him creating awesome dota content as they benefit from this exposure as well.

                                              [–]Tsunami1252 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              If I were him I wouldn't give 2 fucks. Nowhere in copyright law does it state that it illegal for him to do what he is doing (as far as I know). This is getting ridiculous.

                                              [–]tom954 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                              This is really the most pathetic drama I've ever seen on this subreddit. I feel bad for everyone.

                                              [–]Reptarisgreen 7ポイント8ポイント  (18子コメント)

                                              NoobFromUA gets money for other people's content, but HEY AT LEAST THE STREAMERS GET FREE PUBLICITY I MEAN THEY SURE NEED THAT? I mean its not like NoobFromUA is doing this because he is some Saint. He is doing this because he saw an opportunity to make money. It just happens that he is making money off content he doesn't own, but you know most of you do not understand because you just want the ease of getting something for free and fast.

                                              [–]70617373776f7264697 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                              I'm glad to hear of your boycott of all twitch streams that play non-public domain music due to it being unethical. Thank you for your display of integrity in not providing ad-revenue to those that shamelessly steal content that is not their own, even when the owners have expressed no desire and made no move to monetize that content ever.

                                              Personally I find it inspiring that you're able to still enjoy twitch and other digital content on sites such as reddit by viewing only streams and links that have pledged to use intellectual property that has been explicitly released under a free license.

                                              [–]Behold all these lives for the taking!ThatOnePerson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                              Don't need non-public domain, twitch has a library of music that they make available to use for twitch streamers.

                                              [–]Penguinho 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                              Sorry, the word you were looking for is 'transformative'. It's a bit important here.

                                              [–]I'm a fangay and proudFatalFirecrotch [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                                              People keep playing the music card as some hypocrisy, but it totally isn't the same at all. No one tunes into a pro player's stream to listen to what music they are playing, they tune in to see them playing the game and for their personality. People go to Noob's channel specifically for the pro player's playing and personality. That is a big difference.

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                                                [–]Rkthawik 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                He has been doing it since forever since he had 5k subscribers, but now that he makes good money everyone wants a piece of that money.

                                                [–]Reptarisgreen 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                How is this any different from anything else that happens in the REAL WORLD? He is using someone else intellectual property for monetary gain. Why do you think DMCA exist? It doesn't matter how long he has been doing it. He is taking stream highlights and putting them on his channel only asking if he can use it after the fact. Twitch mutes VODS for a reason.

                                                [–]GrmpMan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Ｈｅｌｌｏ． Ｉ ａｍ ｎｏｏｂｆｒｏｍｕａ． Ｉ ｗａｎｔｅｄ ｔｏ ａｓｋ ｉｆ ｙｏｕ ｇｉｖｅ ｍｅ ｐｅｒｍｉｓｓｉｏｎ ｔｏ ｓｏｍｅｔｉｍｅｓ ｕｓｅ ｙｏｕｒ ｓｔｒｅａｍ ｃｏｎｔｅｎｔ ｉｎ ｍｙ ｙｏｕｔｕｂｅ ｖｉｄｅｏｓ．

                                                [–]lianjim 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                The only dota utube channel I sub is noobfromua, because he uploads good contents and only good content, and i doubted the streamers themselves will upload a content as good as he do. I don't know why he's the only one that has been put on the spotlight and targeted. I feel like community needs people like him.

                                                [–]YOU COULDA BEEN A CHICKEN TENDERPoSKiix 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                I agree, but why should he not ask for permission before he rips off others

                                                [–]Paahtis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                This is a really immature passive aggressive move.

                                                [–]max1c 1ポイント2ポイント  (22子コメント)

                                                Zai and all the people that are complaining about this are idiots. If someone is unhappy with this, go claim copyright on youtube and wait for the video to be deleted. Stop shaming people that are actually useful to the community for not doing anything wrong.

                                                [–]rivatia 5ポイント6ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                lol what, that would kill NUA. You do know that YT will shut down channles if the get to many complains.

                                                [–]THE SULTAN OF PUSHNoodleNonger 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                                His point was the pro players and such should just deal with it the same way a professional company would instead of publically calling him out and hoping it works out.

                                                [–]spanky12493 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                                This shouldn't be a criticism, the pros are giving him a chance to not get his channel deleted and helping the viewers aswell so the content they enjoy doesnt get deleted.

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                                                  [–]sthlmno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                  alright then so be it? if so many people have a problem then maybe he is a problem, so just get rid of it

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                                                    [–]spanky12493 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    it's actually much nicer to ask them to stop instead of filing a claim, it only takes a couple claims before the whole channel is deleted.

                                                    [–]LucasPmS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    I mean if you want to kill NUA channel, that is a good idea. But I am not sure if zai wanted to do so; otherwise he surely could just talk with everyone from EG to to it and the channel could shut down in a day.

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                                                      [–]Aleator77 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                      Why do you all care so much about this petty crap? It's mind boggling to me.

                                                      [–]WC3 flairs are almost gone!Boooboooo 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      See the meme "I am a simple man. I see drama, I click upvote".

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                                                          [–]~.~aneurysmatic 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                          He is getting paid for other people's content without their consent. How you don't see this as ethically wrong I don't get. It's not about the money, it's about being a shitty person.

                                                          [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          He does edit the content I will assume. Looked at his channel, videos are like 10-20 minutes long. Problem should be with uploads of full content not highlights of content. It is about the money. You think anyone would care if he wasn't making money or if he was giving them a percentage of the money.

                                                          Also I have no problem with it because I don't like greed. Sure it maybe unethical but these people are already getting paid handsomely while living in fantastic parts of the world. He is from Ukraine. Average wage in Ukraine is what 200 dollars?

                                                          [–]LucasPmS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          No one would care if the wasnt making money because then he wouldnt be making it anyway. The point of him doing it is for the money. He was pretty smart doing the way it is, since no one did before.

                                                          And hey, money is the most important thing in the world, no wonders they want payment for the content that they produce. Just because they live in a good part of the world it really doesnt give him any right to do so. Otherwise I could just go to the US and since my country is shit, I am going to steal some paintings, since they live in a fantastic part of the world.

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                                                              [–]Qoptop 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                              A lot of those streamers actually have their own youtube channels where they DO upload their own Vods.

                                                              I assure you that these players don't need this guy to "make what they are doing possible."

                                                              How much someone earns doesn't invalidate someone's property, either.

                                                              [–]Diavolo222 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                              "A lot of those streamers". Who ? He rarely posts about pro players streams if you really look through his uploads. There are channels out there with good sub numbers who use stream highlights of pros for their daily uploads. Noob does not.

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                                                                [–]danlam 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                As a marketing and branding professional by trade, I don't understand why player would make a big deal out of this. The only cases where I think there is a legitimate reason for calling NUA out is if:

                                                                1. They are already posting their own content and this is negatively affecting their own viewership / revenue streams
                                                                2. The videos NUA posts make them look bad

                                                                What NUA does right now is provide a bridge service to both players and viewers. He makes content quickly available that wouldn't otherwise be, and he helps builds a player's brand. It's a win fucking win. Understand that this actually helps your player brand, and then get over it.

                                                                [–]ppd mastermindLuisN -3ポイント-2ポイント  (20子コメント)

                                                                People are literally just asking him not to be a douche and he goes and acts like a douche. He's ridiculing the idea by changing his name to "I'm sorry," and spamming his followers. These aren't earnest requests, but they can be if people take them seriously. It's a win-win.

                                                                [–]THE SULTAN OF PUSHNoodleNonger 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Of course they aren't earnest requests. He's making them publically. He's literally already trying to put them on the spot.

                                                                [–]PiNGu_ 23ポイント24ポイント  (12子コメント)

                                                                ? He is literally doing what everyone wanted him to, how is that being a douche

                                                                [–]I love youFalonefal 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                He's legitimately asking them if he can use their content in his vids as it's his source of income and he really, REALLY doesn't want to lose it.

                                                                [–]CDEC has the spiritlycanilovememes 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Yeah i wonder they tell him to do that, and when he does people call him a douche, nice!

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                                                                  [–]Diavolo222 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  The idea needs to be ridiculed. Because that footage he "rips" would otherwise be lost in archived footage that none will ever see. Not to mention there are hundreds of dota 2 channels doing the exact same thing. But Noob is the only one in the mind of redditards.

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                                                                    [–]sayem28 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                    why is he being so immature about the situation? instead of doing that he should apologize and say that he will do so in the future

                                                                    [–]Diavolo222 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                    Because he rarely makes pro players stream highlights. Most of his stuff is the usual tournament highlights. There are way worse people out there ripping proplayer streams on a consistent basis. That's why. There are channels out there that unlike noob, base their entire content on ripping pro player streams.

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                                                                      [–]Where shall I go next? Ultimyr University? Yama Raskav? Hmm.Hichtec 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Hello. I am noobfromua. I wanted to ask if you give me permission to sometimes use your stream content in my youtube videos.

                                                                      [–]Javids0n 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      So as far as I know, Valve owns all content made within Dota 2 as part of their ToS. They allow people to make content off of that for free because it's free advertising etc. Therefore, can't NoobfromUA and others like him do what they do without asking etc since the streamers don't actually own the content? Ethics aside ofc.

                                                                      [–]Fluff PlsPoisoCaine 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      No because their gameplay and voice etc are in the stream. That doesn't belong to Valve

                                                                      [–]LiMpIcHLimpich [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                      I'm not actually sure they own it. If you upload a video to youtube, you no longer owns it, for example.

                                                                      [–]youtube.com/gutsycanuckGutsyCanuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Its really upsetting he legally isn;t doing anything wrong where as EE and Zai are.

                                                                      You can look at my recent post history for the specifics as I do not feel like repeating myself.

                                                                      The community will be the death of itself I swear.

                                                                      [–]MikeFromBC -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                                      Using footage from in-stream recordings would be minimally different than using footage from valve's replay system. I don't see the issue with what NUA is doing. Greedy Zai.

                                                                      [–]odpixelsucksDICK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Exactly. I'd actually prefer he doesn't show zais ugly ass face.

                                                                      [–]Penguinho 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                      Arteezy's stream gets 20,000 viewers because it has Arteezy. Arteezy's pubs don't get 20,000 spectators, because there's no Arteezy leaning back in his chair saying "we fukkin lost".

                                                                      [–]MikeFromBC 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      Correct.

                                                                      It's too bad that Twitch owns all content streamed on their site. And it's really too bad that the VODs are open to the public and fall under fair use.

                                                                      And even if they weren't. I wouldn't give a shit. 99% of people steal music or media in one form or another. I could give less of a shit about pro players losing money they never would have made in the first place.

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                                                                          [–]rock solidfalapeli 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                          Can't the streamers go through the process of a takedown notice for copyrighted content in Youtube and be done with it? Does it not work?

                                                                          [–]odpixelsucksDICK 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                          It does. But the people complaining don't actually care, they just want attention or they would do something other than bitch on twitter

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                                                                            [–]ScovaDota 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            Just say no to the guy, rather than do this

                                                                            [–]HoshinoRuri 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                            What will he do if all those players say no?

                                                                            [–]Fluff PlsPoisoCaine 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            I don't think there's anyone that thinks NoobFromUA shouldn't be able to create montages/highlight videos of other people's games. The issue is the monetization of other people's stream content without permission. I don't understand how redditors are failing to see the difference.

                                                                            [–]JothHago 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                            This is a silly move.

                                                                            Really really silly move.

                                                                            [–]Long Live The Alliance!HeavenAndHellD2arg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                            i sure hope this guys also go against magikarp and shit.

                                                                            [–]sunofagundota [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                            It may be sans permissions, but if the streamers were smart they would tolerate it since it provides value and brings attention to their streams.

                                                                            [–]gatoovzla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                                                            JUST FUCK MY CHANNEL AND REPUTATION UP FAM

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