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[–]Severitushttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998186337 115ポイント116ポイント  (24子コメント)

This is what I hate about Nvidia.

Make a joke about AMD: Nvidia laughs cause it's their competitor. AMD laughs cause they can relate to this.

Make a joke about Nvidia: AMD laughs cause they know something about it and think it's funny. Nvidia will call you a f-ing fanboy and downvote you to hell for insulting their great graphic card, wich is so much better than overheating jet engine that cooks meat while you play and heats your house up all year when gaming, also Nvidia has more drivers than you will ever have and you should buy Nvidia right now or you are no member of PCMR.

I could use some negative karma.

[–]Buzzdopei5-4460 r9 270x 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

The part about the drivers is ughh . I had an gtx 460 long time ago , after a driver update which was stable , as soon as the pc restarted i started having artifacts , after that it didnt matter what driver i installed it was done for !

I think thats how Nvidia was trying to tell me i need an upgrade , so i switched to Amd , no regrets :D

[–]1that__guy1i5 2300,970@1528MHZ,500GB ssd 2screen 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

WHY U NO 6850

[–]Godofwarv13Amd Zambezzi 4.2 Ghz, EVGA 970 FTW, 8GB Ram 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

As an Nvidia user, Fuck you /s

I agree, I actually like that amd has an advantage, it will drive down prices and increase quality.

[–]mack0409ZorinOS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I doubt prices will come down, but quality likely will improve.

[–]Godofwarv13Amd Zambezzi 4.2 Ghz, EVGA 970 FTW, 8GB Ram 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Either way, it's better for everyone

[–]finador[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

I feel you, to be honest... nvidia is more powerful and is better in more occasions than amd, but when nvidia fucks up, we (PCMR) more than ever have to see how it is, and they fuck up big time, with shady tactics. ''Its still 4gb'' ''They didnt say ''fully'' suport dx12''

[–]formfactor 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ehh, if you ask me this brandboyism is really harming the PC gamimg industry. Nvidia Gameworks has been a blight to every single game it has been in, yet the brandboys are all for it... It's why we cant have nice things (Like a good Batman game). It's only going to get worse.

[–]finador[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Completely forgot about that, that 3 big fuck ups for such a short period of time

[–]typtyphusMid-Class: FX-6100 | 16GB RAM | ATI HD 7870 OC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

brandboyism is really harming any industry, lack of real critisism.

A: I don't liek this phone? B: Why? A: It's not an iPhone.

[–]C477um04 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would say nvidia is better at the high high end but nowhere else. Amd has so much better value for money though.

[–]Konni123i5 4690k|R9 390|8GB DDR3 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it is. look at the 970 and the 960, both are outclassed by the 390 and 380 respectively. Take an older model and you might get even more bang for your buck while taking a little performance hit. And the 200$-350$ range is pretty common so I'd say in most cases, AMD is the better choice.

[–]bat117i5-4460@3.2GHz | R9 280X 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

They did say all post Fermi cards get full dx12 support

[–]loliver007Xeon E5506, Gt 640 Generic IBM mobo, 12GB ECC (whole pc is Used) 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oo Fucking rah

[–]06gto 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

IM SO CONFUSED DO I DOWN VOTE YOU OR NOT?!?!

[–]rfdinisMSI GTX 970/ i7 5820K / 16gb DDR4 / 1TB HDD + 250 SSD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the thing is, you actually get downvoted for making a amd joke nowadays

[–]459pmeupward 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Doesn't seem to be the case here...

[–]Severitushttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998186337 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm just saying

EDIT: Also bottom of the comment section(sorted from most points)

[–]NEXNnot transitioning just wanted a purple flair 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

kurwa

[–]Severitushttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998186337 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kurwa indeed brother.

[–]459pmeupward 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

%80+ upvote is quite high.

[–]Emangameplayi7-4790K | GTX 980 | 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Make a joke about Nvidia

well as an Nvidia user I don't like being told "Sell your new 980 TI or 970 and buy a Fury X! Your nVidia card is worthless garbage! Start a class-action lawsuit for false advertising!" every single day. And don't go telling me that I'm in denial. I am very aware of the async-compute inferiority that Nvidia has.

[–]Severitushttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998186337 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I red your comment first time, no need to copy-paste it here.

IIRC I have never seen a post about selling Nvidia cards for AMD cards, either I am blind or that didn't happend.

AMD posts on the other hand...

Let's just not talk about it, too much text on screen can cause my AMD to melt and I don't have spare money to buy a new one.

[–]Emangameplayi7-4790K | GTX 980 | 16GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay at this point I am just being a jerk making a fuss about a humor post. lets just put all this behind us and pretend it never happened.

[–]KekonianAMD Phenom II X4 955,8 gb ram,Amd radeon 7770 27ポイント28ポイント  (0子コメント)

RIP OP

[–]Laxcc 44ポイント45ポイント  (12子コメント)

Lol those downvotes on imgur ;D salty fanboys

[–]finador[S] 32ポイント33ポイント  (9子コメント)

People cant take humor these days, its so soon to make this statement tho, but the butthurt is real

[–]Read_all_the_threadsdankwizzard 15ポイント16ポイント  (8子コメント)

I bought a 970. If it never gets native DX12 support, I really don't mind. It will be three or so years before it becomes standard, and by that time, I would like to upgrade to a card with HBM2. Not to excuse Nvidia for lying, again.

[–]bat117i5-4460@3.2GHz | R9 280X 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • For being logical and factual with the information

  • For not being a fanboy

  • For recognizing that Nvidia fucked up even though it minimally affects OP

[–]olavk2http://steamcommunity.com/id/olavdeng2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

the thing is, iirc it does get native DX12 support, its just the fact that it doesnt have proper async shaders hurts performance

[–]Dravardeni5 4670, EVGA SC+ GTX 980ti, VG248QE 144Hz | /id/dravarden -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

source on nvidia ever claming they have async support?

[–]BrightCandleSpecs/Imgur Here 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Places like anandtech did put up comparisons showing that Maxwell 2 had a 1+31 architecture. Its hard to believe they made that up on their own accord, it had to have come from the manufacturer.

[–]Emangameplayi7-4790K | GTX 980 | 16GB RAM 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

well as an Nvidia user I don't like being told "Sell your new 980 TI or 970 and buy a Fury X! Your nVidia card is worthless garbage! Start a class-action lawsuit for false advertising!" every single day.

And don't go telling me that I'm in denial. I am very aware of the async-compute inferiority that Nvidia has.

[–]IchangedmausernameHydra 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

no im pretty sure its just imgur users who have no idea what this meme is referring to

[–]harharlukeAMD A10-7850K, Sapphire R9 270X 4GB, 16GB RAM, 2TB HDD 22ポイント23ポイント  (6子コメント)

Funny if this was the other way round OP wouldn't be recieving any hate.

[–]RicardoMoyer 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You kidding? He would be receiving hate, I'd say even a little bit more, the circle jerk goes back and forth, lately it has been around AMD, but when AMD decided they wanted to put jet engines in their stock coolers it was the other way around, then again Fermi, so... Yeah there's always hate and love when it comes to GPUs, CPUs not so much since AMD has been sitting on their butts for the last bit

[–]finador[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think a difference in these is that amd makes bad decisions, and nvidia fucks us over, but you have the right side on your argument, circlejerk is real on both sides

[–]AdmiralShark4670k, 16GB, 290X 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went with AMD because for what I wanted they were much cheaper for the same experience.

Right now if you want variable refresh tech AMD has a ~$200 price advantage right out of the starting blocks. That makes for some really strange matchups where the 970 gets in a fight with the Fury, and while the 970 is a good card it's not good enough to punch ~$200 above its weight.

Right now at 1440p with variable refresh AMD has a much more compelling offer and I got in on it because it's fricken awesome.

[–]Goofybud16i3-4150; 8GB RAM; Gigabyte GTX 660 Windforce; 500GB SSD +2TB HDD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

AMD has been working in a lab trying to recover from their major fail.

FTFY

[–]gabbomanyaourt -S intelHD intelCeleronp4500 laptop 10ポイント11ポイント  (17子コメント)

Linux to windows: IT'S VULKAN TIME

[–]FlukyS 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Errr well it will be on Windows too :)

[–]Eddyaknowi5-4460 r9 290x 16gb 13ポイント14ポイント  (9子コメント)

Oh hey the "linux guy" is back! Gotta have at least one in every thread!

[–]gabbomanyaourt -S intelHD intelCeleronp4500 laptop 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

How do you know someone uses linux? Easy, they tell you. Also, I use archlinux

[–]Eddyaknowi5-4460 r9 290x 16gb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pft gentoo over everything( just kidding of course)

[–]thewildman74 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

True story!

[–]DealerInAbsolutes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, I haven't told anyone that I use Linux once in this comment!

[–]Missioncode<----- 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Please don't lie not as easy as it sounds.

[–]enzordi7-4790k 16 GB HyperX White 1866 MHz EVGA GTX 980 AC 2.0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just like vegans and crossfitters. I've been dual-booting Debian since back when og you wanted to upgrade tour kernel you had to compile it first. Arch users got it easy. ;-)

[–]AsuMagicI am chroot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this low quality hypocrisy?

[–]DemonicDustBunnyIntel C2Q Q9400, GTX650Ti, 4GB RAM 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Windows people don't give a fuck, we (will) have both.

[–]DealerInAbsolutes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, but Linux is primarily held back by GPU performance - it has better CPU performance than Windows (mainly it's the main server OS and big server-related companies throw billions at it), so if we can match Windows in the GPU department, then...

...actually, we still won't necessarily be winning, because the Windows version will likely get more focus for optimisation, but at least we won't be stuck with Mesa/Radeonsi/etc open-source GL stack only getting us two thirds of the proprietary Nvidia/Windows-AMD performance. And for games that are optimised as well for Linux as Windows, then we'll be performance king!

[–]ZweiffelelementaryOS 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://gfycat.com/SoupyAllAppaloosa

[–]HellkittyAnarchyHalf Life 3 when? 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a windows user, I'm still more excited for Vulkan than Dx12.

[–]abuttandahalfthis sub is peasantry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually; from Windows to linux: "it's dx time!"

And that's why I hate dx

[–]Prometheriogtx 960, 8gb ram, i5 6600K 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

urgh, the whole reason i sold my consoles and built myself a pc was for the purpose of having something that would last me a long time and now the gpu i bought is probably going to be outdated soon...

[–]finador[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey, this brother says this, read it (i didn't really understood), but its not a real issue, gtx is playable with async compute, amd just has a bigger gain in performance, and its really soon to shitstorm nvidia, im sure (for their asses) they will fix it. And this other brother has news for you

[–]IggyJoshi5 4690k @ 4.2GHz / 980 ti 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The hardware for maxwell doesn't support async compute, so nVidia have to make an emulation software for maxwell to support async compute at all. Also, as Oxide as said previously, the software that nVidia was using to emulate async gave lower performance than just not having async at all.

The HOPE is that nVidia can make a good way emulate async, which, no matter what, means that AMD will have bigger gains in performance than nVidia since the hardware doesn't natively support async

[–]finador[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exatly my thought, but it is still really soon to speak in certain term. However, the jokes are funny still. I say a comment saying ''Yeah, nvidia is gonna give a driver, and they come to your house and weld a new cpu''xD, lost my guts.

[–]FlukyS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well outdated makes it sound much worse than it is. You just wont be able to run games on max for the rest of time. In truth you can get away with having a GPU for 4 years if you can give up on the satisfying goal of having the best of the best machine possible. I just see it like this, updating every 4 years or doing piece by piece builds is about the same cost as im saving in cheaper games and no XBL/PSN.

[–]glr123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, I've been following this pretty closely. I think this is how it will ultimately end up:

  • Future PC ports will rely heavily on async compute as it is utilized in many console games, this will be a slight advantage to AMD, similar to what we have seen in the past by Nvidia/Gameworks partnerships

  • Nvidia will edge out AMD in games that don't heavily use async compute and even more so in Gameworks titles, similar to what we see with DX11

  • Nvidia will either find a way to optimize around async deficiencies to reduce the lead by AMD, or will send out teams to developers to assist in designing vendor-specific pathways in the games to alleviate some of this issue

Nvidia has a ton of money to burn that AMD doesn't have. I think that Nvidia had the edge in DX11 performance, and AMD largely kept up due to raw power in certain aspects. In the next year or two, as devs learn how to truly utilize DX12 I believe we will see much more of AMD/Nvidia trading blows, with some games favoring one or the other.

[–]AdmiralShark4670k, 16GB, 290X 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You won't be losing anything with DX12, you just won't be gaining as much. You'll be fine.

[–]GJohnny 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is this DX12 thing good news for my antique HD7850? Will it work for older games or just games that specifically utilize it?

[–]BioGenx2bAMD FX9370@4.4 GHz, Tri-X R9 290X, 16Gb DDR3@2400Mhz (2x8) 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The good news is that your 7850 will see a performance boost in DX12 because GCN cards directly support async compute. You can hold out just a bit longer, brother.

[–]gamingmasterraceAMD FX-4300 8 GB RAM Radeon R9 270 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'll only see benefits from games that specifically utilize them. In other words,

  • ARK: Survival Evolved
  • Deus Ex Mankind Divided
  • Ashes of the Singularity
  • Fable Legends
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider (maybe)
  • Halo Wars 2 (maybe)

Those are just the announced DX12 titles; many more will come.

[–]TheAdmiesteri5 3570, GTX 980Ti, 8GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ARMA 3 will be updated to DX12 with the new Tanoa map as far as I know.

[–]finador[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Im no expert, but i sincerely doubt it. :( Dont you think its time for an upgrade?

[–]GJohnny 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sadly I'm so out of pocket right now I'm stuck with the 7850 for as long as I can see, I've only just managed to upgrade to a 5th gen core i3! Just last week I was on some really terrible g35 motherboard with an E8400 that couldn't overclock and 4gb of no-brand ram

[–]finador[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thats bad... :( Stay tuned for sales and those things, maybe you can find a 750 ti for 100€. I heard it can do magical stuff

[–]GJohnny 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I always try to nab bargains when I see them. :)

[–]LEEBLEEBhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/LEEBLEEB[🍰] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

just overclock the 7850. Plus it can do async, but you won't see as much of an improvement compared to a newer card.

Wouldn't a 750ti be a downgrade?

[–]alpha-ki5-750, 8GB DDR3, STRIX GTX 960 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Whatttttt, I had to upgrade from my gts 250 because it didn't support dx 11.. Will I have to do the same with the 960 in two years?!

[–]finador[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its really soon to say, anyway, their performance is till outstanding , depends on where you look at it, there's is just compatibility issues with the gains, and only the gains in performance. At least that's what i got form what i have read. Hang in here brother

[–]alpha-ki5-750, 8GB DDR3, STRIX GTX 960 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks brother. I had to go for the Green team because AMD is ridiculously expensive in Asia, there was no point in me paying close to 970 prices for a 280x.. 960 is still pretty decent, I can play everything at 900p60fps

[–]finador[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the shitstrom is real, Nvidia did get sort of rekt, but not overly, im sure (again i'm no expert, but i'm pretty sure) that you will get playable framerates :)

[–]joe1up 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

so is amd better than nividia? I always thought nivida was the best while AMD was bang for buck

[–]Konni123i5 4690k|R9 390|8GB DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're not wrong. The 980ti outperforms the Fury X iirc. Still, most people don't have budget for a card that expensive, so they buy something for maybe 200$-350$, where AMD outperforms Nvidia. It completely depends on what your price point is.

[–]toggafhholley -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

AMD was bang for buck

That depends. Do you pay your own electricity bill? Back when AMD released the 7900 series I'd say they were the bang for buck choice, at the moment buying an AMD GPU doesn't make much sense.

I currently have an AMD card, but I'll probably upgrade to Nvidia. Better drivers and smaller power draw really seal the deal.

[–]AttackOfTheThumbsFuck Everything Accordingly 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

You're too late posting this.

The hardware supports async (up to 31 commands), but currently it is being emulated by software. A future driver update is supposed to give devs direct access.

[–]spencer32320MSI GTX 970/i5-4690k 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Theirs no confirmation that it supports it on a hardware level. Only that the cards can support it, Nvidia never clarified if they meant through emulation or not.

[–]AttackOfTheThumbsFuck Everything Accordingly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess you are right. I must have been reading more into it than was there. Sad times!

[–]BioGenx2bAMD FX9370@4.4 GHz, Tri-X R9 290X, 16Gb DDR3@2400Mhz (2x8) -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

IIRC there is confirmation that it's supported on Maxwell 2.0 and Pascal, but it uses context switching which actually hurts performance outside of GPU farms and some server setups.

[–]nope_jpgXeon E3-1231v3 + R9 290 IceQ 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

The hardware supports async (up to 31 commands)

(up to 31 commands)

So it doesnt support async computing fully.

[–]AttackOfTheThumbsFuck Everything Accordingly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a certain amount of commands that need to be supported? Not as far as I can find anywhere. AMD just supports more.

[–]AsuMagicI am chroot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ridiculous. Async doesn't mean there need to be an infinite amount of supported commands at a time.

If I got it right, the driver only will queue the tasks to do because of this hardware limitation. It's not emulation.

[–]TooManyErrorsi5 3570k @ 4.2GHz | GTX 660 SC | 8GB RAM | Samsung 850 Pro 128GB -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because they support half as many commands as AMD doesn't mean they don't fully support it. Its still async no matter how many commands it supports.

[–]AsuMagicI am chroot 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why does your comment have 6 points and are more informative than all top shitpost comments about nvidia "fanboyism" when saying the truth? PCMR is going stupid.

[–]xXNyanCatXx1234qwerti5 4460 R9 280 8Gb DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

How do I get dx12 once it's out? Is it just a driver update?

[–]finador[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

It comes with Windows 10 update, nothing you have to do, but there are no games that use it yet, they are in development.

[–]xXNyanCatXx1234qwerti5 4460 R9 280 8Gb DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

How do I get windows 10? There is no way to do it on my copy of Windows.(im pretty sure it's not pirated)

[–]finador[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

What windows do you have? its available for free till next year for windows 8; windows 8.1; and windows 7

[–]xXNyanCatXx1234qwerti5 4460 R9 280 8Gb DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I have windows 7 64bit

[–]RogerinskySteam: Rogerinsky || FX 6350 GTX 660 8GB 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Have you updated Windows lately?

[–]xXNyanCatXx1234qwerti5 4460 R9 280 8Gb DDR3 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

No, I don't think it's needed an update since I've built my pc (late june)

[–]RogerinskySteam: Rogerinsky || FX 6350 GTX 660 8GB 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Try to update Windows anyway, the tool to get Windows 10 came with a regular update.

[–]xXxMLGKushLord420xXx380T/i5 4590/R9390/16GB/240GBssd/3TBhdd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you need to update it so the windows 10 free upgrade menu shows up on the sidebar

[–]C477um04 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe just make sure. You only get the prompt for the free upgrade to windows 10 if your current OS is fully updated.

[–]finador[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then you should use windows updater on control panel, if that is activated, then you are good to go, a windows symbol will appear on the lower right side of your screen, and ask you to upgrade

[–]glr123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[–]kingduqci7 4770k @4.5Ghz GTX 980Ti G1 @1490Mhz 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Time? what's the first dx12 title?

[–]finador[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

At these moment there's is no public game that uses dx12, but 'ashes of the singularity' is in dev, and they published some performance benchmarks

[–]BioGenx2bAMD FX9370@4.4 GHz, Tri-X R9 290X, 16Gb DDR3@2400Mhz (2x8) 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ARK: Survival Evolved is getting a DX12 update, so that'll be the first public game.

[–]kingduqci7 4770k @4.5Ghz GTX 980Ti G1 @1490Mhz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/DX12-GPU-and-CPU-Performance-Tested-Ashes-Singularity-Benchmark/Results-Heavy

All I see is AMD catching up with their terrible dx11 drivers... Suddenly their cards are 80% faster? lol.

[–]PathlessBullet 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So can we expect this to go the same way as Mantle?

[–]finador[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, amd will do something to fuck up now, sadly

[–]Buzzdopei5-4460 r9 270x 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

So in Dxdiag it shows me that i have DX12 installed , whats the diffrence now ?

Is there a way to see the diffrence ?

[–]NieOrginalnyi5-2430m GeForce GT520MX 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, people will forget once pascal comes out. Mark my words.

[–]sobewebmaster4790K | GALAX GTX980 SoC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who prefers NV gpus due to their *generally better performance, I understand what NV is doing with GameWorks as well understanding why some devs would want to use it regardless if they got paid or not due to some simplicity to prewritten code. THAT SAID, things like PhysX and GameWorks need to be open to help it thrive in the industry. Keeping it closed off is a bad move on NV's part.

The only thing proprietary from NV that I actually agree with is G-Sync, which is better(simply according to my eyes between the 2 having used them myself) than AMD's proprietary FreeSync (no AMD users, FreeSync is not open, it is simply based on an open standard).

It really would be nice though to see NV push out some open-source things. While a lot of AMD's tech is proprietary as well (regardless what they tell the sheep), it at least is AIMED at making things more "open". And thus I think AMD is aimed at a better game development setup whereas NV doesn't seem to want to strive towards that.

/endrant

[–]Winamp_isnt_Dead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still 2-3 years before we will se some dx12 games.

[–]haim2fast4ui5 4960k @4.0Ghz|GTX 980Ti|16 GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Haha, it was a good joke OP, don't let the fanboys bring ya down

[–]finador[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

:) they wont. With people like you :3

[–]haim2fast4ui5 4960k @4.0Ghz|GTX 980Ti|16 GB RAM 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You play Payday2?

[–]finador[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right now i don't, i have it on steam, i think, but well..., long story short, i have my build but i don't have a graphics card.

[–]Tubz42Specs/Imgur here 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Strap in brothers!