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[–]EthicsInSTFU 52ポイント53ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ah, GamerGate. Welcome to the problems of the left. Having ethics requires you maintain consistent values. Actually caring about an issue leaves you open to charges of hypocrisy if you can't maintain those values 100% of the time.

Milo hates gamers. He is not your friend. He is using you for cheap clicks. Now he is begging you to ignore your values and not boycott his nasty website so he can continue to earn income from you. What kind of ethics are those?

[–]speed0spankShrilly Demanded Respects 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

The kind that GG know and love?

[–]The_Iceman2288feminist gazpacho 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more than just using them for cheap clicks, it's about having an army of useful idiots who'll cheer him on every time he bashes liberals.

[–]FEMINIST_VANGUARDBrianna Wu's sockpuppet 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

oh come on, look at his twitter avatar, he's clearly a fellow gamer

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/625714606858743809/san33gTY.png

[–]EthicsInSTFU 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wonder how long it took to have all the references explained to him? The things we do for cash, eh?

[–]AmazingSully 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

And to be fair GG is rightfully calling him out on it. Milo's response to everything honestly surprised me... I found it odd that he was actually defending the article when (I believe, though I may be mistaken) he has called out the Justine Sacco incident.

[–]RhaganaDoomslayerJoyful Queen Skull-less 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember: This is the man that months before GG was calling all gamers piss-stained underpants wearing beta males, who are being trained to become mass killers.

His flip-floppiness should not be a surprise. It was never about ethics for him or Breitbart.

[–]JF_Manatane 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

But it's not about gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaames!

[–]LIATG 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yet there are idiots in this subreddit and elsewhere who think that someone who danced on the grave of a dead police officer on a public publishing platform deserves special protection from the consequences of her actions.

Or, some people realize that leading a big harassment campaign against a random person is a straight up shitty thing to do.

Although it would be weird for KiA to realize that

[–]Wehpudicabok 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

They certainly haven't realized it in the past, despite ample opportunity...

[–]Dissonant_SibilantsI am a meat popsicle 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

somebody who can draw: A clown car (GG, obv) crashed into a tree, leaking gas everywhere. Milo in the foreground, looking toward us, flicking a cigarette behind him into the pool of gas. "It was a good ride while it lasted, GG, but you always knew this was coming."

[–]tee96Social Justice Padawan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats a good representation of gg and Milo's relationship.

[–]VoteRonaldRayGunStop at nothing less than FULL SOCIAL JUSTICE 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]Moustachio26Beta Mangina White Knight 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Milo: "Don't forget why you're here, guys. To be fanboys for me and the publication I'm currently working for. Don't step out of line."

Gamergate: "YOU BET, MILO, SOUNDS ETHICAL TO US!"

[–]EthicsInSTFU 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Like many fat women, Foy is under the delusion that men lust after her." - Milo

Not a misogynistic movement tho lol

[–]forkisDiGRA Academic Marxist Feminist 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not all Gamergaters say that! Just the most prominent ones. And the most vocal ones. And the ones that don't post much but when they do it's pretty awful. So basically almost all Gamergaters.

[–]casersatzBASED SHILL 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Behold... boredom.

Let's not forget what an integral role plain boredom plays in the perpetuation of gamergate. Loud, uncreative, bored people...

[–]othellothewiseВоин социальной справедливости СССР☭ 47ポイント48ポイント  (18子コメント)

Ahahahahahah:

https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3jsmzz/warning_possible_false_flag/

EDIT:

lol at the gators who reported this post. It's not like I'm going to accidentally remove my own post.

[–]Internet_AristocrapInternet Aristoasshat ಠ_ృ 40ポイント41ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Remember guys, spotting an SJW false flag is easy: We gators are never anything but repugnant, insufferable assholes. Anyone behaving otherwise is clearly not GamerGate."

[–]bradamantium92feminist gazpacho 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

AGGro/Revolt are frantically trying to drive a wedge between Milo and GamerGate before the Nyberg article drops.

Ugh, the way they talk and behave as if there's this elaborate net of ops and counterops and some bullshit strategic long game. Piss off already, GamerGate's nothing but a sad joke at best, one that keeps getting told at the expense of individuals who really shouldn't have to deal with this shit. Like, what the fuck even will the srhbutts article accomplish except shitting up her doorstep? Even if all their (demonstrably false) accusations and concerns were true, that doesn't suddenly vindicate what's left of Gamer Gate.

[–]FoldableHumanTraffic Light Technician 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ugh, the way they talk and behave as if there's this elaborate net of ops and counterops and some bullshit strategic long game.

Quite literally how they framed their own behaviour for a good eight months. Granted reality was "random crap RogueStar pulled out of his ass every other day" but they liked to pretend they were playing army man and super spy.

[–]moon_shoesSnarkmaiden 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Like, what the fuck even will the srhbutts article accomplish except shitting up her doorstep? Even if all their (demonstrably false) accusations and concerns were true, that doesn't suddenly vindicate what's left of Gamer Gate.

It's strange how obsessed with her they are. She's not newsworthy at all, she's not a public figure and until she was doxxed, her name wasn't public. She just openly criticizes Gamergate on Twitter, but apparently that's enough for Beitbart to do a huge "investigative" article about her.

[–]StumbleOn#notallgates 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Progressive witch hunts? From a guy talking about how awesome his witch hunt is? Jesus penis.

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 33ポイント34ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't get it. Did Ghazi somehow post this news story on Breitbart? I looked at the posting history of the guy who made the thread. He's a regular KiA poster.

This guy sees "patterns" because he wants to.

[–]GearyDigitMost Charrming Mod 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

Obviously we've infiltrated their ranks so thoroughly they don't know who's a real Gator and who's an SJW plant.

[–]TrogdorCronus27 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Note to self: Never play Paranoia w/ a gator.

[–]GearyDigitMost Charrming Mod 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or any variation of Mafia

[–]squirrelrampageSquirrel Justice Warrior 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Paranoia GG Edition:

8chan is your friend.
Outrage is mandatory.

[–]SorosPRothschildEsqMarxist Culturalist 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

The theory is that someone from here posted the article on KIA, frowned on it, and then forced a bunch of people to agree and upvote it, or maybe brigaded it so hard that 8k became greater than 50k. Take your pick.

What's certain is that it's much more reasonable to conclude this was a cynical plot designed to divide The Movement than it is that someone actually thought Breitbart are a bunch of dicks.

[–]forkisDiGRA Academic Marxist Feminist 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey man, if they're reporting your post the only ethical thing would be to do exactly as they ask and remove it. Don't be biased because it's your own post!

[–]IrbyTremor☣sᴏᴄɪᴀʟ ᴊᴜsᴛɪᴄᴇ ᴊᴀʙʙᴇʀᴡᴏᴄᴋʏ☣ 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

These sad assholes

[–]DBones90Social Justice Bard 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get why people do false flag shit. I get that when reality intersects with the made up fantasy world in your head, you look for explanations around it, and sometimes that results in crazy conspiracy theories.

What I don't get is how that has 300 upvotes. How delusional is GG that these kind of ridiculous theories actually get support?

[–]SocialJusticeMace 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh shit they are on us.

SHUT IT DOWN ACTIVATE THE AMALA NETWORK

[–]MurrabbitAmateur Victim 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The what now?

[–]sjwIlluminatiGator better have my Ethics! 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you need to know, you will know.

[–]PostModernismSaveUs☭☭Cultural Marxist☭☭ 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

And consider also how "right-wing" has started cropping up here as a term of abuse. How quickly people forget that it was only conservatives and conservative press who gave GamerGate the time of day. It was a conservative actor who named the movement, for Heaven's sake. You say GG is about ethics in games journalism. May I suggest, in the friendliest and most supportive way possible, that you stick to what you know?

Straight from the horse's mouth.

[–]eats_shit_and_diesDarkwing Cuck 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

more like the horse's ass

[–]LIATG 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same thing, in this case

[–]squirrelrampageSquirrel Justice Warrior 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

.#notallhorses

[–]TheKasp⁂Social Justice Berserker⁂ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe, just maybe, some GG supporter will sit back and ask themselfs:

Why? Why did only right-wingers and bigots like Milo give us the time of day? Is there maybe a reason why those are our allies?

[–]diehtc0keAvid Candy Crush Player 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Police officers are dying all over America, executed in some cases by thugs proclaiming that "Black Lives Matter," in apparent ignorance of the fact that most black deaths are caused by other blacks.

Fuck this guy.

[–]PainusMania2018 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

His comment is well upvoted, gilded and most of the comments I see are positive to "neutral."

Some drama, the majority of KiA is very clearly siding with him and his.

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Go to all comments in the thread. OP linked to Milo's post, so you're seeing direct supplies. There's less support in the top-level comments.

[–]StrappinYoungZiltoidSir White of House Knight 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

While there's less support, the refrain still seems to be "well SJWs are too sensitive and everyone supports them" (replete with trigger jokes and all that) even when they are calling out Milo for harassment. It's absolutely better than supporting his bullshit, and the point made that harassment occurs both ways is obviously true (though harassment happens MUCH more coming from one way, and that way tends to appeal to more bigoted groups), and it's good to see people speaking out against it, but still a little disappointing how it's being done.

[–]ilikekittensdoyouRespawned Puppy. AWWW! 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

His comment has Reddit Gold, because of course it does.

[–]AsteroidSparkSterling Jim Worshiper 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

He probably gilds all his own posts.

[–]TolPM71 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Short version "listen up you pungent, bollock scratching betas in need of a good slap-just shut the fuck up and keep worrying about black people 'kay?"

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Alright, I'll respond. I know that GGers are too gentle a species to engage in the sort of cruel and vindictive social media witch-hunt so often staged by progressives, so instead allow me as a distinguished member of the press to share a few thoughts.

I wonder if they realize he's mocking them.

Shame on you. It's not for me to flatter myself--just this once, I'll pass on the opportunity--and remind you what incredible allies Breitbart has been, to you guys and to me, nor where this movement would be without Breitbart spending time and resources sticking up for GamerGate. But if that doesn't matter to you, simply consider what a terrible, meaningless analogy you are making here.

"I'm not going to do this thing I am now doing." Oh so very clever, Milo. Truly you are too devious for us to catch that.

And consider also how "right-wing" has started cropping up here as a term of abuse. How quickly people forget that it was only conservatives and conservative press who gave GamerGate the time of day. It was a conservative actor who named the movement, for Heaven's sake. You say GG is about ethics in games journalism. May I suggest, in the friendliest and most supportive way possible, that you stick to what you know?

Oh that's fucking hilarious. The irony exists on so many levels I need an elevator to get to them all.

I understand of course that much of this is driven by what you guys call shilling, and that the timing is not coincidental. My report into Sarah Nyberg will be out in a few days, maybe less.

Ah the old "not really Gamergate" argument. Good luck with that.

[–]ElephantAmoreI've got my Orange Crush. 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

One really does wonder if they'll realize he's making fun of them.

[–]JF_Manatane 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well the "instead allow me as a distinguished member of the press" part makes it rather obvious, isn't it ?

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He probably believes that.

[–]KarateSquidsGators, Please 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't believe they've followed him for so long. I mean, it takes a special kind of stupid to be taken in by/be oblivious to his disingenuous hate filled rhetoric...

Oh.

[–]SorosPRothschildEsqMarxist Culturalist 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol at one point in that thread Milo cites Gateway Pundit, aka Jim Hoft, aka the guy whose name comes up as a Google verified answer if you search for "Stupidest man on the internet." This is so great.

mfw hitting the Save button on Milo's gilded hatespew and all the sycophantic responses.

Nah but I'm sure they'll shrug off any ownership of Milo's comment there. This is a double false flag right? Like first we made it look like the community disapproves of Milo, then we made it look like they approve of Milo. That post was actually upvoted and gilded (and masturbatorily responded to) by third party trolls.

[–]PrivateIdahoGholaSocial Justice Super Mutant 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Definitely rooting for injuries in this fight.

[–]Ayasugi-sanNow With 100% More Ethics 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So recently some gators grew tired of Breitbart's brand of unethical right wing tabloid journalism after Breitbart Texas led a campaign against a random woman who happened to make a joke on twitter.

Huh. I thought they'd support that. What made this instance different from all the other times they've participated in a hate campaign against a random woman who made a joke?

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ohhhh my god, look at this Milo tweet:

https://archive.is/mTucT

And apparently the subject matter is so important that one of them made a thread to discuss the other thread.

https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3jrviw/ethics_kia_pulls_a_ghazi_publicly_compares/

[–]ElephantAmoreI've got my Orange Crush. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Milo asking the hard hitting question we all want to know the answer to.

[–]Wehpudicabok 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

That thread though. Harassing someone who clearly isn't a public figure (going by their twenty twitter followers) is "pulling a Ghazi". Because it's not like that is explicitly prohibited by our rules or anything.

[–]PixelDirigible@NoraReed/What Is #GamerGate Currently Ruining 22ポイント23ポイント  (12子コメント)

what is it with cisgender men and a total inability to say anything briefly

[–]forkisDiGRA Academic Marxist Feminist 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well you see it's a complicated phenomenon which I will attempt to defend in some detail below:

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(part one of twenty-nine. Please also watch the half hour youtube videos I'll be attaching to even-numbered parts of what is sure to become the longest written work in human history)

[–]Clockmen 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Excellent lorem ipsum reference, but where's the call-outs to Name and Name?

[–]forkisDiGRA Academic Marxist Feminist 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait for the videos! They'll be in there somewhere with the toy skulls.

[–]Model_OmegaCANADA! FUCK YEAH! 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I had a credit card I would so gold this.

[–]Ayasugi-sanNow With 100% More Ethics 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're all either from Rigmarole Town or spent too long there.

[–]RacecarlockSocial Justice Sharknado 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our testosterone compels us to look smart for the ladyfolk.

[–]piwikiwi⚔Mary⚔ 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, Proust was gay and he wrote the longest book of all time. And I'm glad he did.

[–]sophandros⁂Social Justice Berserker⁂ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can be both cisgender and gay.

[–]piwikiwi⚔Mary⚔ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Whoops, that was dumb

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm quite laconic.

[–]LIATG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Milo's the template for the kind of guy I try to avoid at parties. Which is why I don't go to parties with many cis dudes :p

[–]ArchchancellorExtruded Plastic Dingus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I enjoy letting words fall out of my face-hole. 'Specially after a few drinks.

[–]silly_nipples 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So gamergate is finally noticing that they are being used as a recruiting ground for dubious ideologues?

[–]OmegaBlue0231☭☭Comrade In Arms☭☭ 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Young thinks this is a dangerous mentality that can lead to condoning bad behaviour.

You're about a year too late for that.

[–]Cromagnerd 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Police officers are dying all over America, executed in some cases by thugs proclaiming that "Black Lives Matter," in apparent ignorance of the fact that most black deaths are caused by other blacks.

Oh boy, this old dog whistle. Let's imply the issue is black persons killing themselves, please ignore the same statistics that say this show that white people kill each other more than black people do. Except you'll never see right-wingers saying "there's a white on white crime problem".

What the statistic -actually- means is that someone who is a criminal or a victim is likely to be killed or kill those who they are likely to live near. Due to our country's heavy segregation, this means you are very likely to be near people of your own race.

Meanwhile, keep fucking the percentage chicken while ignoring the fact that overall crime has dropped steadily for decades.

[–]mct_nz 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My first thought is quite simple. Lol.

My second thought is that it seems that even KiA follow the steps in development of social movements. It's past the emrgence and coalescence phase, and is currently eating itself from the inside out as it attempts to beuracractise. I'm pegging it's next step is either out-right failure, or the movement itself gets co-opted entirely by it's far right elements. Either way I'm really confident it's beginning to lose credibility even amongst it's own members.

Source: Blumer, Herbert G. 1969. "Collective Behavior." In Alfred McClung Lee, ed., Principles of Sociology. Third Edition. New York: Barnes & Noble Books, pp. 65-121; Mauss, Armand L. 1975. Social Problems as Social Movements. Philadelphia: Lippincott; and Tilly, Charles. 1978. From Mobilization to Revolution. Reading, Massachusetts: Addison-Wesley, 1978.

[–]dudebromarxistGeorge SJW Bush 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The coup begins! It's just baffling it took any of them this long to actually realize that their association with Milo was incredibly hypocritical. Hopefully this is the start of an "are we the baddies?" moment for some of these folks.