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[–]alllie 867ポイント868ポイント  (114子コメント)

Don't take the job if you won't perform it.

[–]Gung_Honess 244ポイント245ポイント  (40子コメント)

Lot of that going around lately. Do the job you get paid for or GTFO lol

[–]HoldMyWine 155ポイント156ポイント  (26子コメント)

I don't care who you are or what Islam tells you, either you do your job or you are fired. Go find a job that you can perform.

[–]Fuadius 88ポイント89ポイント  (21子コメント)

Islam doesn't say it. Says not to consume alcohol but this lady is just silly. Sucks but she deserved to lose the job.

[–]microwavedbulb 74ポイント75ポイント  (17子コメント)

In Florida every convenience store that is run by Muslims will sell you beer, pork, cigs, and dirty magazines.

[–]toshethomur 36ポイント37ポイント  (8子コメント)

Florida: the pinnacle of sensibility

[–]mentholbaby 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

the tip of my pinnacle ( i''m a floridian)

[–]toshethomur 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

just the tip (I am Floridian, too)

Everybody else, come see our beaches!

[–]mentholbaby 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

our forgotten coast is the best coast you ever saw,that is if you could even rememeber it

[–]vikingdeath 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

a land remembered that would be the island coast. p.s. sanibel island has a non-official nude beach. (florida native)

[–]h3rpad3rp 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where I live, most of the liquor stores are owned by sikhs.

[–]mojoduck 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Muslims can smoke

[–]crackanape 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Many consider tobacco to be haram.

However, the modern purpose of the alcohol prohibition is to enforce a group identity, so tobacco is redundant in that case, and it's very hard to get addicts to stop, so nobody makes an issue of it.

[–]CantStopWorrying 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Similar to most religious texts, mind and body altering substances are frowned upon.

[–]ChronosFT 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Bangaldeshi Muslims serve me beer and margaritas at a Mexican restaurant they run (and the Mexican food really is quite good).

[–]Korietsu 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The sales and consumption of alcohol is considered Haram iirc.

[–]Mr_Smartypants 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not like they recently allowed alcohol to be served on planes, so she doesn't have that excuse even....

[–]ChronosFT 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it's not a new requirement found on the latest employee bulletin ...

[–]Arknell 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't work in a gun shop if you suddenly become a pacifist. It's an airplane, booze is their bread and butter!

[–]olican101 50ポイント51ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is exactly the same as the Kim Davis issue. She took the job, she should do her job.

[–]DogOneTwo 29ポイント30ポイント  (7子コメント)

In Minnesota some Somalian cab drivers refused to carry people with service dogs because dog saliva is considered to be satanic.
Yeah, that was smashed real fucking hard, and this will be too.
I'm far from some kind of right-wing anti everything non-American guy, but no one is coming to this country and dictating how we live. If that's what you want, stay in your own country.

[–]lumloon 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have ADA lawsuits been filed yet?

[–]DogOneTwo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not sure if they filed one but things get handled in Minnesota long before national organizations have to file lawsuits. The power structure in Minnesota is a little different than most other states. Anderson calls Anderson, couple of beers, then some work day stuff happens and it's done.

[–]hoikarnage 79ポイント80ポイント  (30子コメント)

According to her religion, she isn't even allowed to be serving any man besides her husband anything.

[–]Gnaget 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

Sounds like they had a policy in place to accommodate her. Though, it seems like a fundamental part of the job.

[–]spitting_nonsense 47ポイント48ポイント  (0子コメント)

"working something out with coworkers" is not a "policy in place".

[–]fly2me 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Breaking: Porn star suspended after refusing sexy times as it goes against her beliefs. More at 11.

[–]GoldieLox9 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mormon lingerie model sues Victoria's Secret for wrongful termination after refusing to wear anything but magic underwear

[–]WalrusKaput 32ポイント33ポイント  (17子コメント)

This happens a lot, especially with Muslim cabbies who hate people with seeing-eye dogs or Muslims who are cashiers at grocery stores who flip their shit about touching pork

So many butthurt pussies clinging to their pitiful religion

[–]ChronosFT 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

butthurt pussies who like to randomly enforce their religious precepts when it is convenient to do so. Oh, and that goes for any religion. Back in the 1980s I remember a particular convenience store owned by a woman who said she was a "Good Christian" and couldn't touch alcohol, and by touch I mean she couldn't pick up an unopened bottle of beer and had it to you. However, she was happy to sell it and take your money, you just had to reach down into the cooler case for it (behind the counter). She wasn't terribly bright about her religious reasoning, and she wasn't terribly bright for letting strangers behind the counter.

[–]Beck73 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Used to work with a woman that fit that description. Every year several of our clients would send us gifts around Christmas and one year one of our larger clients sent us several bottles of brandy as gifts. She found out about it and poured out all the bottles before anyone realized where they went before liquor is 'of the devil' ಠ_ಠ

[–]DogOneTwo 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just posted about the Minnesota cab drivers refusing to carry service dogs. Attempting something like that should immediately invalidate any naturalization they obtained since their oath was taken under purpose of evasion. It's really fucking simple, from the Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America;

I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic

[–]tdotGB 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Muslim cabbies who refuse to drive gay people in Toronto.

[–]TeenageHandM0del 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

How did she get the job? I'm sure at some point during the interview/hiring process it would have been mentioned that she would be required to serve alcohol.

[–]BeaniePradford 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The article says she converted to Islam after she already had the job.

[–]roscocoltrane 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The perks of this religion towards women were just too appealing.

[–]stunts002 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sure Mike Huckabee will be rushing to hold a rally in support of this Muslim exercising their freedom of religion right?..

[–]CarbonatedConfidence 367ポイント368ポイント  (86子コメント)

She was supposed to serve the alcohol, not drink it. Zero sympathy.

[–]Miss_Sangwitch 68ポイント69ポイント  (2子コメント)

I can understand if someone needed a small, reasonable accommodation because they had a physical disability but this is a choice.

[–]chucksimpson 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

She did not get fired for not serving alcohol:

Lena Masri, an attorney for the Council on American-Islamic Relations Michigan, said Charee Stanley followed management's directions, working out an arrangement with her coworkers to accommodate passenger requests for alcohol.

However, Masri said, ExpressJet Airlines put Stanley on administrative leave after another attendant filed "an Islamophobic complaint" that referenced Stanley's head scarf.

[–]daner92 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So long as you feel the same way about Kim Davis.

[–]digital_end 151ポイント152ポイント  (15子コメント)

I'm pretty sure if I said my religion forbids me from looking at computer monitors, they wouldn't let me continue to work in IT.

[–]FluffyBunnyHugs 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

Hey, it's what I told my boss and I've been sitting here in the break room watching TV ever since.

[–]digital_end 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be fair that was your workday before you said anything as well.

[–]FluffyBunnyHugs 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, before I could still get away with playing video games. Alas....

[–]LegionXIX 129ポイント130ポイント  (15子コメント)

This is getting old fast.

Find a job that fits your beliefs. You don't see Quakers lining up to be coming police officers do you?

[–]FluffyBunnyHugs 32ポイント33ポイント  (14子コメント)

Well what about the AACP, the Amish Association of Computer Programmers? We have several of them that don't work here.

[–]LegionXIX 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any idea how long it takes to get to work in a horse and buggy?

seriously I have no idea.

[–]FasterThanTW 5ポイント6ポイント  (8子コメント)

not sure if you're serious but from what i understand, the Amish can get permission to use otherwise banned tools if it's for work purposes. i could be completely wrong though.

[–]raygundan 22ポイント23ポイント  (7子コメント)

The Amish aren't what most people think. They're not anti-technology in the broad sense-- they have a belief that technology should only be used when it brings the community closer together. Additionally, they try to avoid unnecessary dependence on the rest of the world.

The Amish typically have electricity. They also typically make it themselves with diesel generators powered by fuel from their crops, to reduce outside dependence. They avoid large-scale farm and construction equipment because harvest and barn-raising and similar activities bring all hands of the community together, and if one guy can do it with a machine, all of that community bonding and tradition vanishes. Additionally, things are used on a case-by-case basis as needed. Trucks, phones... even computers are used, particularly when they are required to sell their products to outsiders.

There was an amusing period where they even tested out cell phones. You'd see them in the fields with a scythe, flip-phone tucked between ear and shoulder. There was some belief that it would allow more community interaction-- and to some degree, it did-- but in the end they decided it was more of a hindrance than a help.

It's common in parts of the midwest for them to build houses for the non-Amish. They're good at it-- and despite the homes containing all sorts of technology, they have no problem using or building it, or driving to the worksite, or any of that.

They take their sick to modern hospitals, have no objection to the MRI or modern surgery or prosthetics or anything. They don't like insurance, which they see as gambling-- but the whole community chips in to pay cash for medical care. My wife's a doc, and on a few occasions, she said "the four biggest bearded farm-tanks you've ever imagined just walked in with a briefcase full of cash, and paid for the kid's surgery in full."

Heck, they even actively encourage their kids to take a year off from the religion and go see the rest of the world before they make up their mind. They're certainly not perfect, but they're not the anti-tech reactionaries people think they are, and they do a number of things I wish more religions would.

[–]smeltofelderberries 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

About the rumspringa there is a case to be made that ditching someone without their social structure will just make them sort of relapse to what they once had because it's familiar. Other than that I agree.

[–]raygundan 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

No disagreement from me there. They're far from perfect, and the double-edged sword of rumspringa is a great example. On the one hand, it would be glorious if every religion and non-religion said "you know what? go spend a year with everybody else, and see how that works."

But to do it cold, with no support, and with the threat of losing contact with everything you know if you accept the outside world... that's brutal. But even with that awful caveat, they're the only religion I know of that does something like this at all.

[–]GuruMeditationError 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't they stop talking to them if they leave the Amish Order? And wouldn't it be smarter to just pay for insurance instead of getting jacked up medical prices beyond belief?

[–]raygundan 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't they stop talking to them if they leave the Amish Order?

Yep. If I gave the impression I thought they were saints, I apologize-- they're not what people think they are, but they're not perfect, either.

wouldn't it be smarter to just pay for insurance instead of getting jacked up medical prices beyond belief

This is a mixed bag. Paying cash for medical services often gets you a lower rate, particularly if you negotiate it up-front. And insurance means a middleman, who always takes a cut-- so even if their costs are slightly higher, they also keep more of their money to pay for it. But what they do is only very slightly different than insurance anyway.

[–]bangorthebarbarian 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Interesting that this could actually work. It wasn't long ago that computer programming wasn't done on computers, and you can still write valid programs longhand if you'd like. What would be the Amish response to writing out computer programs on paper? It seems an interesting grey area in their belief system.

[–]kittens_in_mittens_ 105ポイント106ポイント  (8子コメント)

I used to work as a server with a Muslim woman. It really made my job a lot more difficult. Not only did I have to get drinks for my customers, I had to take care of hers as well. And no, she didn't share the tip with me. I am all for practicing your religion, but don't take a job that directly conflicts with it and expect others to pick up the slack.

[–]keraneuology 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did you confront her on the tip thing?

[–]kittens_in_mittens_ 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, she was a total bitch. Twenty one year old me was scared of her and didn't really know how to deal because it was her religion. Thirty year old me would definitely say something. The restaurant ended up going out of business, so we didn't work together all that long.

[–]Periscopia 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

The restaurant ended up going out of business

Not hard to see why. Management should have intervened on the tip issue.

[–]ChronosFT 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

40-year-old me would have taken her out back and given her what-for. "Bitch, either surrender the tips or surrender your job: your choice. Don't like slingin' ETOH around, then get a job at McDonald's!"

[–]ABC_Florida 50ポイント51ポイント  (0子コメント)

So basically she justified robbing you with her religion.

At least her religious views were respected. That's equality!

[–]keepitwithmine 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where did you learn your racist and intolerant beliefs? /s

[–]perogies 169ポイント170ポイント  (12子コメント)

I am so sick of people using religion to not do their fucking jobs and annoy everyone else.

[–]OfMiceAndMenus 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is absolutely no different than that clerk in Kentucky. If you can't do the job you signed on for, get a different job. Your religion may be protected, but forcing it on others absolutely is not.

[–]Last_Jedi 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is absolutely no different than that clerk in Kentucky.

Legally, it is completely different. The clerk in Kentucky was breaking the law. This flight attendant is not breaking the law. She can never be sent to jail or held in contempt of court for refusing to serve alcohol.

[–]calmion 93ポイント94ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Double amputee sues modeling agency over denial of hand modeling job"

[–]SkunkMonkey 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

Considering the guy was missing his legs, I see his point. /s

[–]boldcoldbutnogold 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Point? We amputees call those our "stumps" you hater.

[–]EctoplasmTourniquet 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

so triggered

[–]Eurynom0s 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

people being triggered is my trigger, shitlord

[–]presidentcheesecake 86ポイント87ポイント  (5子コメント)

You cant fulfil the contract you don't do the job. Im sure they're a millions of unemployed people who will happily replace you. Me included!

[–]iluvgeordie 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

Especially considering serving is most of her job.

[–]presidentcheesecake 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know, i'm sure its not in her contract that she has down tequila slammers every hour, just serve it!

[–]CRFyou 59ポイント60ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm gonna start a very peaceful religion that requires me to have a $1,000,000/year salary.

I'll take entry-level jobs in Fortune 500 companies and SUE THE DING DONG CHRISTFUCK OUT OF THEM IF THEY VIOLATE MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!

You fuckers think just because a guy reads comics he can't start some shit?!

[–]Gung_Honess 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Upvoted simply for the Mallrats reference!

[–]CRFyou 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Speaking of planes... But my cousin Walter jerked off in public once. True story. He was on a plane to New Mexico when all of the sudden the hydraulics went. The plane started spinning around, going out of control, so he decides it's all over and whips it out and starts beating it right there. So all the other passengers take a cue from him and they start whipping it out and beating like mad. So all the passengers are beating off, plummeting to their certain doom, when all of the sudden, snap! The hydraulics kick back in. The plane rights itself and it land safely and everyone puts their pieces or, whatever, you know, away and deboard. No one mentions the phenomenon to anyone else.

[–]MusikLehrer 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well did he cum or what??

[–]Belgara 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus christ man, there are some things you just don't talk about in public!

[–]coupdetaco 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

the usual vault rules apply: touch not lest ye be touched

[–]western_red 45ポイント46ポイント  (4子コメント)

Emirates and Qatar Airways serve alcohol - pretty sure not all their flight attendants are infidels.

[–]user8737 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

You won't see Emirati or Qatari women serving drinks to people, especially not on an airline. I think most of them are from Southeast Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe or possibly some Brits and Australians.

[–]crackanape 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, you also won't see Emirati or Qatari women working as flight attendants at all.

[–]inveterateasshole 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Promise-Keeper prostitute claims Nevada brothel fired her for preserving her virginity.

[–]4rr4 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jewish man gets a job at Subway, refuses to serve non-kosher sandwiches.

Note: There are actually kosher Subways but the joke Subway is not one of these.

[–]Arknell 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living"

Umm-yes you should, if you want to earn a living catering to people you can't let the quality of your work suffer because of your personal opinions.

[–]jackblack2323 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'd like to become a doctor but refuse to perform surgery because religious reasons.

Free money

[–]LehighGibbard 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

A better example would be to become a doctor and refuse to offer blood transfusions based on my being a Jehovah's Witness.

There are an awful lot of doctors out there refusing birth control and contraception counseling to patients. I've heard of at least one who refused to write for Viagra to a gay male patient.

[–]boldcoldbutnogold 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

That isn't an accusation, it is a reason to be fired - unwilling to perform necessary job functions.

Does anyone see a readily available way to accommodate her religious preferences in her current job, to allow her to stay employed, as the law requires? Because I don't, other than having someone else get paid to do the job she was hired to perform.

[–]nickerbocker007 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I don't think that I should have to choose between practicing my religion properly or earning a living," Stanley said. "I shouldn't have to choose between one or the other because they're both important."

This is so incredibly dumb. Of course you have to choose, you dolt. Obviously if stripping is against your religious beliefs, don't be a stripper. One of the primary things an airline stewardess does is serve alcoholic drinks, like a bar tender. The law doesn't have to etch in an exception that protects you from being fired because of not doing the job you accepted doing but now suddenly can't because of religious beliefs. That is just ludicrous and could lead to all kinds of societal problems. If you can't serve drinks bring that to the attention of your potential employer before you are hired and get it in writing if it is really a concern.

[–]tnag 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

EXACTLY. I'm sure if she had spoken to her management, they would have either scheduled her for flights that don't serve or have other attendants serve alcohol. But to get there, knowing that serving a variety of beverages is common on planes, then bitch about having to do that? That's just idiocy. She was fired for not performing the job duties.

[–]spergery 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

If your religion forbids you from handling alcohol, don't get a job that requires you to handle alcohol.

If your religion forbids you from marrying gay people, don't get a job that requires you to marry gay people.

This isn't hard.

[–]EarthboundExplorer 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do people keep getting jobs they refuse to do? Beyond stupid, do your job or quit/get fired

[–]Illpontification 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

She probably won't marry gay couple either.

[–]splanell 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

The whole situation seems odd to me, but nonetheless, I'm certain she was made aware of her job description prior to taking the job. She converted to Islam after she had some orientation as well. This seems opportunistic to me.

[–]SkunkMonkey 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

This seems opportunistic to me.

Ya think? It's just simply a way to cash in and not have to work anymore.

[–]DrPhilodox 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you don't want cum on your face, don't be a porn star.

[–]DONT_EAT_DESKS 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is this gonna become a trend now?

______ objects to _______ for ________ beliefs

[–]gunner4440 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Suspended her for not doing her job they pay her to do. ?

[–]Sympathy_for_the_FO 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been a great week for religious assholes who don't want to do their fucking jobs because "mah religious rights".

[–]Jdazzle217 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are a Jewish waiter who refuses to serve pork, you are going to get fired. End of story.

[–]tiamdi 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now if only student loan officers would discharge my loans after 7 years citing religious beliefs

[–]securitywyrm 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

This pisses me off, because the "reasonable accommodation" is saying "people with a religion get special positive treatment." So you get conversations like...

"Why am I the only one getting called in on Sundays?"
"Because everyone else is Christian and thus can't be made to work Sundays."

[–]Sp00nD00d 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Our new Engineer tried this during his first on call rotation, boss told him his laptop and hotspot will work just fine from a church pew.

[–]rawdatarams 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Makes me wonder if there are more on her job description she claims she cannot perform due to her religion? In an emergency, can she perform CPR on a male passenger?

[–]HagbardCelineHere 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Kim Davis Defense: I didn't do my job, but I should get away with it and keep getting my salary, because my beliefs deserve special privilege.

Must be great being a coworker who has to pick up the slack because some pious person thinks that "non-discrimination" means getting to do whatever your religion can justify in the workplace.

[–]brontide 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/crc/2011-Religious-Discrimination-and-Accommodation.htm

An agency may justify a refusal to accommodate an individual's religious beliefs or practices if the agency can demonstrate that the accommodation would cause an undue hardship. An accommodation may cause undue hardship if it is costly, compromises workplace safety, decreases workplace efficiency, infringes on the rights of other employees, or requires other employees to do more than their share of potentially hazardous or burdensome work. Undue hardship also may be shown if the request for an accommodation violates the terms of a collective bargaining agreement or job rights established through a seniority system.

Not every accommodation must be approved especially when you are asking for other workers to pick up your slack. This probably rises to a safety issue because of the close quarters on an airline and making other workers spend more time in the isles sounds unwise.

[–]hwkns 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

She clearly is working for the wrong airline. Change airlines, problem solved.

[–]jimflaigle 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you thought I was pissed about the gay marriage clerk, you have never seen me teetering on the edge of sobriety.

[–]NexxusNexxus[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Person gets suspended from job for not doing job"

[–]CrackHeadRodeo 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are these people that dumb?, go work for the Emirati airliness or something.

[–]Commander_Shepard_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lol, no shit. What is it lately with this? Read the fucking job description before you get hired. You can't cause trouble over your religion at a job. Having one is not a right bestowed upon you by the company or the government, it is a privilege they have afforded you because they believe you will perform your duties accordingly.

I worked at a grocery store a while back. People wanted Kale and Coconut oil. I think they are idiotic trendies who want nothing more than to join in the latest food craze. Do I discriminate? No.

[–]Tappedout0324 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

What's with religious people taking jobs they know they can't perform because of their closely held beliefs?

[–]anothercarguy 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Serve it dont drink it you entitled cow!

[–]wazzie19 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

So tired of this crap.

[–]BPcoL66 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one asked her to drink alcohol, only to serve it.

[–]TheNarwhaaaaal 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shockingly similar to the lady who wouldn't give Gays a marriage license because she didn't believe it. It's my personal belief we shouldn't hire people who won't do their job

[–]utuxia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's part of the job. Its like applying to work as a grocery bagger and then claiming you're alergic to bagging groceries.

[–]MY_IQ_IS_83 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's an excuse? Well then, my religion prohibits me from performing my required duties. You still need to pay me. Yay!

[–]keepitwithmine 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So? If you don't or can't do your job then you get fired. I'm sure she will sue for a bazillion dollars and win or something though.

[–]Skrp 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, whining about being fired for not doing job. Nice.

[–]jdoe74 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My religion requires my employer to [insert unreasonable expectation here]

If I don't get it I'm being discriminated against.

[–]Jancy52 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Employment is at will, and if the job is inclusive of things that violate your religion - FUCK YOU.

[–]LarryDavidsBallz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dont get a job were you WILL have to serve alcohol.

My sources are telling me she has an interview for a pork taste tester.

[–]sloycia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

well... here it is.... if you have religious objections to what the job duties are... don't take the job... like our friend Kim.

[–]DroogDim 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

My religious beliefs require I wear a Burka. I demand you employ me as a H00ters waitress.

[–]bigpandas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can't serve alcohol due to your age or religion, you probably won't be able to satisfactorily work as a bartender.

[–]ElizabethHopeParker 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, then she should maybe consider working for a company that does not serve alcohol. I thought about that for a while. I truly believe people have a right to believe whatever they want. Especially in the U. S. But it's still her job. I work in a toy store. I sell video games. Mature rated video games. Yes, including GTA5. If, say, an eight year old child wants to buy that game, and an adult is with him, I have to let that child get that game. It may not be a religious belief, but I still feel very strongly about that. (No, I don't think it will make the child into a murderer) But guess what? My job obliges me to do it, so I do it.

[–]nebuchadrezzar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then get a job that doesn't require you to violate your religious beliefs, don't try to make the job conform to you! Is it against the faith to serve alcohol, or just to drink it?

[–]system3601 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guess what. Don't work in a job you can't perform.

[–]wekiva 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So she never intended to do the job she applied for.

[–]binaryecho 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

jesus fucking christ.

what in sweet fuck is going on with religious folks thinking their beliefs have fuck-all to do with their job?

seriously?

[–]mmnuc3 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can't do 100% of your job just because of religion, you should be fired. Period.

[–]sleaze_bag_alert 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

is the Kim Davis support crowd going to support this person's choice to not do their job - which they voluntarily took and are free to leave whenever they want - because of bullshit religious reasons?

[–]olican101 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Doubtfull, they only support Kim Davis because she's christian.

[–]sleaze_bag_alert 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

sadly, I know. No matter how obvious it seems to me that the scenario is the same thing, I know that to them it will always be somehow different. It hurts sometimes to think about the mental gymnastics people are willing to put themselves through to avoid having to adapt their worldview.

[–]SeekerFaolan 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Muslim flight attendant accuses ExpressJet Airlines of suspending her for not doing her job" Nothing to see here folks.

[–]joker68 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like she's in the wrong line of work.

[–]cryospam 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good they hired her to do a job. She refused. Fire away.

[–]UranusIsBestAnus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't this precisely why they ask you if you're able to perform the functions necessary for the job before hiring you? How do people get a job if they have to answer 'no' to that question?

[–]rclouse 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

In Morocco I had no problem ordering a bottle of wine to go with dinner and having it opened & poured by the waitress. Locally produced too (President cabernet sauvignon).

[–]Bronkko 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

wonder if the fundies and their freedom of religion will come to her aid?

[–]metsman913 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who cares? its her job. She's not doing it. Screw her.

[–]islander 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

PC shit is getting ridiculous. You apply for a job that serves alcohol or issuing marriage licenses and you dont your FIRED!

[–]Elcactus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is this pc? She got fired for it and will absolutely lose the case of she tries to bring one.

[–]DuckPhlox 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

My religion is intolerant of bullshit. Do your job or get the fuck out.

[–]trow12 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't do the job? Get a different one, like at a not brewery for instance, or maybe in customer not service.

[–]Feeq2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I work for a transportation company and Muslims refuse loads if they have to transport alcohol

[–]Aethelweard 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Posted thus yesterday in another thread as well, who knew a stupid anecdote that happened more than a decade ago would be relevant twice in one week.

Worked for for a butcher store. Boss hired Muslim kid as a part time help. Muslim kid refused to touch, sell or be close to pork. Boss fired kid. Kid cried racism. Got in the local paper. Whole community was on my boss's side and laughed at stupid kid.

[–]Ftheprofit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It says she converted to Islam recently. If I'm not mistaken, an employer does not have to accommodate for a person who has changed their workplace restrictions after beginning a job. For example, a person cannot take a job then claim they are orthodox and can't work the Sabbath. Any HR experts who can confirm?

[–]stubbornmoose 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just do your effing job attention whore

[–]MrArmageddon12 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a religion where I can smoke marijuana without getting fired and am able to take every Friday off?

[–]ikoss 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What would be next? Muslim attendant refusing to serve food because it contains pork or not halal meat?

[–]k_ironheart 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm all for people having their religious freedoms, but using your religion to not perform a duty at a job you agreed to take is absurd. If you won't grant marriage licenses to homosexuals, then don't take a job that requires you to do so. If you're a pacifist because of your religion, then don't join the military. If you don't want to serve alcohol because of your religion, then don't take a job that requires you to serve alcohol.

[–]ANTIVAX_JUGGALETTE 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Frankly, I'm surprised her husband or father even allows her to be on the plane without their supervision

[–]_transatlantique 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worked for Expressjet for five years including a year in management. While I don't know her story or this situation at all, it sounds like there is more to this story than is being reported, just based on my knowledge of management and disciplinary practices. Unless a lot has changed since I left six months ago.

[–]kinsmed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No problem. Just match her up with the strict vegan, a fundamental Jew on Shabbat, the Jehovah Witness, and a bubble boy.

They can take turns not doing things until anyone else takes their job.

[–]Uvabird 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm going to assume there are flight attendants who are LDS (Mormon) and Southern Baptists- both groups don't drink but I've never seen a flight attendant refuse to do their job or deny somebody a cup of coffee or a glass of wine just because they don't partake themselves.

[–]CamelotTisASillyPlac 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. I have two Mormon cousins who did just that while serving in College. You should know what's expected going into the job. So if I'm a Christian, hypothetically, can I refuse to work Sunday because it violates my notion of the Sabbath, even though I fully took on my serving job knowing that one of the requirements was to work weekends and holidays, and then sue my employer when they fire me/ schedule me anyway? I don't think anyone should tell you you can't wear your hijab, that I would completely understand, but no one forced you to take a job where you had to serve alcohol either.

[–]Lakecrab 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Let me introduce you, Ms Muslim Flight Attendant, to Ms Kim Davis of Kentucky. http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/04/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/ "You have got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything..." a philosophy that is becoming a jailable offence.

[–]nebuchadrezzar 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh noes, I want to have strong religious beliefs, but I don't want to have to accept that not everyone shares them! Can't I just make the rest of the world conform to me? If you can't accept the public, which has a huge variety of beliefs and customs, don't work with the public!

I like your idea that the two should meet. They can spend the whole day arguing about which one of them is going to hell.

[–]ohno2015 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you cannot do your job quit. Better yet DON'T take a job which conflicts with the teachings of your magic man in the sky. Fuck you, fuck your faith, shut up and do your goddamn job or get the fuck out.

[–]Jagoonder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who knew you could be suspended for refusing to perform an aspect if the job you agreed to do either explicitly or by omission?

Expressjet needed to nip this in the bud. If they let this slide the next problem this attendant has will be refusing to serve women who aren't covering their faces.

[–]Cakemiddleton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If she can't do her job, she's hurting the company she works for. She deserves to get fired

[–]Bad-Badger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is no more justified than the Kim Davis lady not giving marriage licenses to a gay couple.

[–]DroogDim 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's shocking is that many of these Muslim countries wouldn't allow her to work outside the home.

[–]microwavedbulb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good thing she wasn't elected like that other freak.

[–]I_am_really_shocked 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a win win situation. If they refuse to hire a Muslim because of their inability to serve liquor, the airline faces a publicity/legal discrimination nightmare. Fire someone who accepted all the duties of the job when she took it and now refuses to do them, and the airline faces a publicity/legal discrimination nightmare. Props to figuring out that the odds of getting a nice chunk of money were greater with this than that damn Mega Millions.