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[–]goodbyeart 16ポイント17ポイント  (20子コメント)

This is the same reason they fluoridate our water.

And I'm out.

[–]LordDongler 1ポイント2ポイント  (18子コメント)

Do they do it to protect our teeth?

If so then why don't they put anything else beneficial in the water like vitamins or something? Is it because fluoride is legally considered industrial waste?

[–]goodbyeart 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because the benefit of drinking vitamins are severely reduced when diluted across many millions of gallons?

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

It is industrial waste, and they say it's to protect our teeth, but it absolutely is not supposed to be ingested.

The most disgusting thing is how they add extra fluoride to jugs of water and market it for newborns. They don't even have teeth! And they used to give fluoride pills to babies back in the day. They must have believed that it would help from the inside out, but current studies have shown the effects are nothing but negative when consumed and it does not belong inside our bodies.

With all of this evidence why do they continue to put it in our water? Even if you buy fluoride at the store, you're supposed to swish vigorously for 60 seconds and then not eat or drink anything for 30 minutes afterward for it to be fully beneficial for your teeth. I don't know about you, but that's not how I drink my tap water.

[–]tomhodge19 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

It is not supposed to be ingested in large quantities. Fluoride is found in most fruit and veg, it is used in toothpaste because it is healthy for your teeth. Fluoride is not being used to 'control' the population by the government, a ridiculous claim

[–]HornsOvBaphomet -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Nah man fluoride really does make a difference in our minds it messes with penial gland pretty bad

[–]tomhodge19 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I mean you're entitled to believe what you like and I respect that, but my life is sound right now. If something felt off, I'd look more into it being a cause, but since I feel fine, fluoride isn't a huge problem to me haha

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

If you researched the effects fluoride has on our bodies, specifically the pineal gland, you'd be surprised.

Check this out - The Dangers Of Fluoride And How To Decalcify Your Pineal Gland

[–]ark3192 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just repeating that plenty of old studies have shown fluoride in low amounts aren't harmful to mental health. Maybe so, but it doesn't tackle the subject that we are no longer consuming only low amounts of fluoride. It's in not only our tapwater, but plenty of our food and drinks as well. We're ingesting way more than is safe. We're not ignoring the evidence, you are.

[–]carlily -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

We need a source here, man.

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

Here is a simple article that states a fact with plenty of sources to back it up: Scientific Facts on the Biological Effects of Fluorides

Here is an article on how fluoride impacts the brains of our youth: Impact of fluoride on neurological development in children

Here's another good one : The Effects of Fluoride on Consciousness and the Will to Act

[–]ark3192 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]IBonzEyeI[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know, I'm talking about ingesting fluoride in excessive amounts, which fluoridated tapwater is causing. I don't claim that it shouldn't be used for our teeth topically. I use fluoride mouthwash every day. But I drink non-fluoridated water.

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, a little too conspiracy-esque for you?

[–]flipmyfedora4msenora 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

oo a nice dose of cringe

[–]steadyslayer 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

They just don't want you getting high

It's a morality thing It's a sin to be wasted

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

That point isn't exactly valid either. Why would alcohol be legal then? and tobacco?

And I always wondered, whatever happened to separation of Church & State...

[–]Roller_blades 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

People consider getting high and getting drunk/buzzed on tobacco different. Idk why it doesnt make sense but try telling someone thats drunk that they are really high on alchohol and they will get mad lol.

[–]samisanonymouss 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Which is funny because before the war on drugs, high or stoned were perfectly reasonable words to describe alcohol intoxication.

[–]Roller_blades 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup infact high and stoned originated from alchohol!

[–]kodybreakssht 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha I love the salt metaphor!!!!

I do disagree with one point, that psychedelics have no risk to the public. They could be a danger in the same sense of alcohol but by using them responsibly that risk is null and void :)

Great post!!

[–]Imgodnigga 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. Just look at the LSD movement in the 60's. People starting taking this drug and people started to riot over things like black rights and the Vietnam war and of course art was effected immensely. Nixon saw this and thought he was losing control over the people and started pushing anti-drug propaganda with no proof.

Now that's fucked up.

[–]chief_erl 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

the one thing i dont agree with is the MDMA part, although i wouldnt put it in the same class as psychs i dont think its necessarily harmful if done correctly and with pure substances. i feel like most of ecstasy's bad wrap comes from people getting garbage E mixed with uppers, downers, pipes, and whatever else you can think of. i have a very reliable source of MDMA that has been tested and i never have a bad comedown from that. not once. but in the past when i've taken random e pills or molly that isnt good quality, thats when i've had the horrible comedown that lasts for days.

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is true. I've had good, clean MDMA maybe once that I can remember, but pretty much every time I've tried it I've had a terrible next few days.

I'd be curious to get some real, uncut MDMA to try a few times and see how that changes my opinion.

[–]im-not-a-hipster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i dont think its necessarily harmful if done correctly and with pure substances.

pure mdma is neurotoxic, and has negative side effects if abused

[–]hashmon -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly. Nobody has bad comedowns from real MDMA, in my experience..

[–]Flugzeug69 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno, I've definitely thought like this too... But at the end of the day, it's clear that the government is pretty uninformed about drugs and health is not priority #1. However, psychedelics have given rise to "horror stories" cause of bad preparation or bad brain chemistry or too high of a dose, etc. This stuff was made illegal a while ago, and a lot of citizens see psychs as just hippie fuel, driving everyone to live in fields and do nothing with their lives. There isn't a big enough group that has realized this simply isn't true, so it's not viable to overturn laws that are decades old. These substances are profound and I think the government doesn't want to deal with it by legalizing it. They're powerful and irresponsible use would be really bad, so it's easier to just fear monger and keep it illegal. Officials don't know enough about psychedelics, etc. to conspire to shut down our pineal glands and close the door to "enlightenment" through psychedelics. Just my two cents!

[–]ark3192 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ugh @pineal gland. a body part that has little to no bearing on behavior.

[–]LazerDisk_Whores 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Said every hippie ever.

[–]newaccount680 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every hippy ever says this same shit. Its fine on its own, believe what you want, i dont give a fuck. but then the same hippies who bring this urgent call to action "THE GOVERNMENT MANNNNN", never seem to do shit about it except take more acid and think about the same problems over and over without making action to do anything.

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just wanted to clarify, I'm actually pretty far from a hippy or an acid burnout. Contrary to what you are likely picturing in your head, I'm not sitting on an old couch in the basement with a bong eating doritos wearing a Pink Floyd shirt singing along to Sugar Magnolia. I don't have long hair, I don't drive a VW, I don't wear hemp jewelry or burn nag champa incense.. I wake up every morning and go to a respectable job and live a very responsible life.

2nd, where is the call to action? I simply heard the argument "psychedelics shouldn't be illegal because they're actually safer than most legal drugs out there, but the government is stupid and thinks they're more dangerous, but they aren't" and thought maybe I should put my thoughts out there.

I was taught to grow up with an open mind, even if that makes me come off as a typical conspiracy theorist or an anti-government hippy.. but I have done my research to back it up.

I understand that the fluoride idea is far fetched, but if you actually looked into it, you'd understand how messed up it really is.

As far as the psychedelic drugs being illegal for reasons other than health concerns, you have to be very close minded to just brush that off as another "THE GOVERNMENT MANNNNN" theory.

What I'm saying is, you're painting an unfair picture of the intention of my post.

[–]hashmon 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I always feel amazing for days after taking MDMA, OP, as does everyone I know. You probably haven't taken real MDMA. There's good reason why people view it as psychedelic, and it's the top priority drug to medicalize by MAPS, www.maps.org.

Other than that, there's a lot of truth to what you're saying. Psychedelics were criminalized in the late sixties because they were seen as fostering radical political sentiment.

[–]IBonzEyeI[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll have to try some pure MDMA.. if only it was easy to come by where I'm from. Meth and heroin are too prominent in my area, it's difficult to come by MDMA that hasn't been cut with one, or both, of those less-than-ideal drugs.

[–]hashmon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope you find some; real MDMA can be life-changing.