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[–]Vaux1916Kentucky Straight Bourbon-kin. Pronouns: Mash/Mash/Mashself 985ポイント986ポイント  (30子コメント)

Remember when feminism fought against the stereotype that women were unable to control their emotions, and that they were irrational because of this? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 213ポイント214ポイント  (12子コメント)

Yeah but since all women are apparently rape victims, it is understandable. So obviously, rationality/impartiality/objectivity should just be abandoned wholesale.

[–]mrswagpoophead 69ポイント70ポイント  (9子コメント)

Not all women think this way. In fact, few do. The only ones that do are these dildos on tumblr.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 100ポイント101ポイント  (2子コメント)

Exactly, but these few want all women to feel like victims.

[–]DiabeetushTranscendantkin, Pronoun(s): ĺ̸̛͠a̵҉r̷̡͘͜͞d̷́͜͝ 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not a female, but I'd say it's definitely important to make that distinction. Hell, that's part of the reason Tumblr has gotten as bad as it has. They seriously think that all men support rape or congratulate other men for rape. The reality known by almost everyone is that almost any human does not support rape and do not rape other people.

They're so detached from reality that they actually believe men are just some giant monsters who conspire only to rape, plunder, and murder all women and non-masculine men.

[–]99639 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

The only ones that do are these dildos on tumblr.

...and the ones who run academia in the US, and most democratic politicians in the US, and most HR departments.

[–]cenatutu 84ポイント85ポイント  (6子コメント)

As a female, I'm fucking sick and tired of these tumblr princesses. Not all women need to continually blame the entire male population for their plight. They seem to have this column A and column B of catchphrases that they throw together to try and make a point. They have bastardized what feminism originally strived for and made the term a joke. You wanna be a strong woman? Guess what. That's on you! Suck it up princess. Life is not going to hand you everything you want.

[–]For_Teh_Lurks 40ポイント41ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's even better is that they're usually middle class white women who have never actually endured any real oppression.

"A guy catcalled me and looked at me sexually! They don't hold open doors and cater to my every whim either! Someone made a rape joke!" - white girl who has a job at Starbucks after wasting college on gender studies with more grants and scholarships than her male counterparts, simply for being female.

Compared to:

"I was raped by 20 men in India and the government punished me for it" - Indian woman who was born into poverty in a caste system Fuck modern feminism. If you're for equality, be for equality. Not feminism.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHamAsshole McShitlord 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

what it boils down to is a bunch of spoiled brats clinging onto a social/civil rights movement, and know playing victim in this society pretty much gets you what you want if you play people right. Mommy and daddy cut the umbilical cord, they know their prospects look bleak outside of college, so play the political card and profit from society's empathy.

Shit, look at Emma Sulkowicz. She conned an entire school and the media just so she could get a degree for dragging a mattress around. When she released her porno, it blew her credibility out of the water. Columbia U has since started doing a U turn on sjw policies.

What bothers me are the policies coming down from above in academia that support these people and support the victim complex.

[–]_MistressRed_ 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

I had a girl express to me that women can't buy things based on logic but only based on emotion.

I asked her if she really thought that low of women.

She said that it's because she thinks highly of women is the reason she thinks they can't think for themselves.

I don't think that makes sense.

[–]Vaux1916Kentucky Straight Bourbon-kin. Pronouns: Mash/Mash/Mashself 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

That girl is wallowing in doublethink.

[–]vexinom 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

doublethink isn't even her final form. That is some metaphysical bullshit level thinking.

[–]riselikebread 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its a different thing every day

[–]puffykilled2pac 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time (and Tumblr) sure proved them wrong!

[–]multiplesarcasms31Disagreeing with me is one of my triggers 1941ポイント1942ポイント  (459子コメント)

enjoy the privilege of being able to talk about rape without no emotional attachment.

Yeah, I'll be sure to tell that to my two of my guy friends, who were both molested when they were kids, that they don't have any emotional attachment to the subject. That the idea is so "abstract" to them that they can't even fathom what that's like.

[–]zang227 1004ポイント1005ポイント  (91子コメント)

Hey man, don't you know only women can be raped?

[–]Zeusolympus 440ポイント441ポイント  (32子コメント)

"Can" I've heard the body has a way to shut that whole thing down.

[–]BLUNTforDANVERS 185ポイント186ポイント  (25子コメント)

God, every time I see this it makes me hurt that a Missouri guy said it. Not doing the state any favors.

[–]Sichais 158ポイント159ポイント  (8子コメント)

Called Misery for a reason, pretty though

[–]TouchDownBurrito 36ポイント37ポイント  (5子コメント)

But they say misery loves company?

[–]slayerx1779 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you think they brought 49 other suckers into their club?

[–]CorrugatedCommodityUrist McShitlord 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missoura.

[–]mzackler 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

And his opponent paid for ads to help him.

[–]OhGatsby 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

I live in Louisiana, every time I see Bobby Jindal in the news I get depressed. It's never good.

[–]This_Aint_Dog 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean if a woman rapes a man, it would mean the man had a boner. Boners obviously mean he liked it. Therefore it's impossible for a woman to rape a man.

/s

[–]FeierInMeinHose 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's kind of amusing how many people that would argue that vaginal secretions don't indicate consent, but an erection suddenly does. It's amusing, in a morose way.

[–]FishstickIsles 104ポイント105ポイント  (15子コメント)

Yep, no man has ever worried "if I get sent to jail I may get raped". Never.

[–]chaelland 48ポイント49ポイント  (10子コメント)

The show the boondocks has a character who literally goes to support groups because he is afraid that if he ever goes near a prison he will get viciously raped. At least one episode opens with him having a nightmare of a guy in prison raping him.

[–]heyitsmecarlos 57ポイント58ポイント  (2子コメント)

"My booty is mine, it belongs to me, you cannot have my booty"

[–]Socific 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

The criminal defense lawyer with the white wife, I think. Or maybe he's just a regular lawyer. He's one of my favorite characters, I just don't watch the show enough.

Edit: so he's a prosecutor, which makes his character even better.

[–]NightfallsI identify as you 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a prosecutor, which adds a new layer to his character. His monologue shows that he feels guilt for sending others to the same potential fate he fears. An earlier episode has him trying R Kelly for his molestation crimes.

[–]dreucifer 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

His name is Tom DuBois and... well, he's like Huey and Riley's uncle.... Their Uncle Tom...

[–]Raunchy_McSmutbag 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poor Dubois... "soap dropped ni**a" "we don't waste no muthafuckin soap in here" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODqdlBeC0ns

[–]sleaze_bag_alert 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Your soul better belong to Jesus, uh huh, cause your ass belongs to me ahaha"

[–]BForBandanaMerkin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The booty warrior is the origin of that episode if I remember correctly... So funny... I mean sad... I mean aladeen.

[–]altxatu 71ポイント72ポイント  (15子コメント)

That annoys me so much. Is my rape somehow different cause I have a dick? Of course not.

I talk about rape logically because thats how you solve the problem not being an emotional wreck that can't function.

[–]DJSlambert 12ポイント13ポイント  (14子コメント)

To play devil's advocate, technically men can't be raped according to the FBI's old definition that wasn't replaced until 2013. So while now the FBI considers forced sex on any gender to be rape, the public consciousness might now have update its definition yet.

Old definition: “The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will.” (Yes, that was actually the definition until 2013)

New definition: “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

Source

[–]carorea 28ポイント29ポイント  (11子コメント)

The problem with the new definition is that men technically still can't be raped by women unless they use a dildo or something.

[–]mermanbeta 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't understand your interpretation of the definition. It doesn't say "penetrator" or "penetrated," only that if penetration occurs, the person who did not consent is the victim of rape

[–]carorea 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can see how that works, and that is likely what the law meant to convey. Thanks for showing me a different (and probably the correct) interpretation.

[–]DisparityByDesign 47ポイント48ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah the 5 year old boy probably wanted to get raped by his uncle, men enjoy sex.

[–]ShamAbram 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Did his pee pee get hard? Then he thoroughly enjoyed it. It's just biology bruh."

[–]Axmeister 21ポイント22ポイント  (14子コメント)

I had a Sociology teacher who believed this.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

Sociologist have a totally biased ( aka fucked up ) definition of racism (aka institutionalized racism ) and sexism (aka institutionalized sexism ). They believe that "only people in priviledged layers" can be racist or sexist.

[–]CrazyLogical1Disabled Ableist 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

My brother hated his sociology class because they were all proto-SJWs and swore the USSR didn't do anything wrong other than being communist.

It's not like the Holodormor wasn't made worse by the Soviets taking food out of the area anyways in an intentional attempt to make the Ukrainian population more docile (the five year plan was not popular there). Keep in mind that Ukrainians might as well have been a different ethnic group as far as the Russians and the USSR were concerned.

But, you know, Ukrainian is just a bunch of white people so they can't be the victims of genocide at all. /s

[–]BForBandanaMerkin 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same goes for Jews!

Ninja edit: and the Irish! (concerning race crimes)

[–]kami232Cishet Nordic Disney Supervillain CEO Extraordinaire 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

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[–]dreucifer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

swore the USSR didn't do anything wrong other than being communist.

That's because the Russian revolution was an uprising of a formerly oppressed class. The idea that an oppressed class could take power and become themselves oppressors is totally implausable, and not at all where the SJW crowd is headed.

[–]NightOfTheLivingHamAsshole McShitlord 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

funny you say that, I had a feminist sociologist, but she was second wave, and this was back in 2010, she used the classic interpretation. She pointed out racism that existed worldwide and it didnt just have to be whites vs. blacks. but it goes both ways.

She said the most prevalent form of discrimination and control is class warfare.

Good on her.

[–]The_Mad_Pirate 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

For what i have read and heard , second wave feminist ( that means non Betty Friedman or Bell Hooks related branch) like Christina Hoff Sommers, Camille Paglia and Judith Butler seem much more educated, logical , rational , centered and egalitarian than the radical marxist 3rd wave. In fact Butler as an article in wich she describes how the second wave feminism grow appart from positivism into a non-sensical irrational over-emotional post-structuralistic marxist ideology. It's understandable that, in that scenarioo, 3rd wave feminism sociologist had adopted heavily biased terms ( wich is a common factor in marxism and related theories ) comming from black activist groups wich is the case for "institutionalized" racism and used it to coin their own "institutionalized" sexism theory they so much like to brag about.

[–]timag 65ポイント66ポイント  (5子コメント)

Outside of your point about the erasure of male victims, should people who don't have any real experience with an issue be able to talk about it? Can I discuss, say illegal immigration without having been an illegal immigrant or affected by it in any capacity?

I for one think a fresh set of eyes free of colored perceptions has its place in these debates.

[–]multiplesarcasms31Disagreeing with me is one of my triggers 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree, just because someone hasn't personally experienced something doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Like I think murder is a terrible crime, have I ever been murdered? Has anyone close to me been murdered? Has someone ever attempted to murder me? The answer to all of those is 'no' but I can still have an opinion on it, same goes for rape; I myself have never been raped or molested, though people close to me have, as stated above, but I don't have first hand experience. I still think it's a terrible crime and that perpetrators of it should face extensive punishment but I still think a lot of rape accusations are handled ham-fistedly with a guilty until proven innocent mindset.

What really annoys me about the whole thing though is how SJW's have completely devalued the meaning of rape/sexual assault/sexual abuse in order to include themselves and having said they've experienced it. I remember an SJW friend of mine telling me that she was sexually assaulted because some guys catcalled her from their car. I didn't say anything to her but in my head I thought "Seriously? If that's the criteria then I've been sexually assaulted countless times as well as 90% of all people."

[–]fuckingSamMan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is what is called "false equivalence" if I might be so bold as to trigger you re: disagreeing. Rape is different to murder in that they are not the same thing.

I feel like a more appropriate metaphor is something along the line of saying to a cancer patient "I entirely understand what you are going through" when you are currently in a clean bill of health. It's possibly a very insulting thing to say, and devalues the experience of the cancer patient.

Or perhaps let's mention "pro-choice" -- in that women should be able to decide what they do with their bodies, as they experience them... every day?

What really annoys me about the whole thing though is how SJW's have completely devalued the meaning of rape/sexual assault/sexual abuse in order to include themselves and having said they've experienced it. I remember an SJW friend of mine telling me that she was sexually assaulted because some guys catcalled her from their car. I didn't say anything to her but in my head I thought "Seriously? If that's the criteria then I've been sexually assaulted countless times as well as 90% of all people."

Your friend here is clearly an idiot. You probably shouldn't quote them ever. I'm not so sure that this one instance is evidence enough of your premise: that SJW's have completely devalued the meaning of "sexual assault". Source for lacking devaluation: the term is used in legislature re: sexual assault law.

( http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/contents )

[–]Dinewiz 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree. I think only those that have been murdered can have an opinion on murder and murderers. How could you possible emphasise with someone without having been through the experience yourself? You just simply can't. You're so detached* and removed from it, you can't possibly have the emotions needed to form a logical opinion on the matter. Attempting to do so is just arrogant.

Also, agreed with the sexual assault thing. Hate it when an ugo touches my butt at the bar.

[–]Tyler_Burr 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, been there too myself. When do I get to be an oppressed snowflake? :(

[–]Missaceofspades 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Literally came to the comments just to say this but you beat me to it. Has anyone never watched svu?! Anyone can be raped.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored 77ポイント78ポイント  (326子コメント)

I'm a man and I was raped.

The story: My GF was mad at me because I wanted a "night to myself" (We were already having relationship issues and I needed some space). She barged into my dorm, super drunk, and guilted me into having sex with her. I was not in the mood, and was feeling really low, but she eventually guilted me into sex. Yes, I got an erection, and I even came, but I felt so violated and from then on the dynamic of our relationship changed, and it took 6+ years after we broke up for me to recover.

My response to this: I can be emotional about rape, and still am. It is scary for me to talk about it, which is why I use an alt account. But that doesn't mean we can't have logical discussion, for Christ's sake! Let's think critically about this shit and look at different points of view and try to work on this issue from BOTH sides, male and female.

Also, "logic" doesn't mean "sans emotion." It means learn what logical fallacies are and don't use them.

EDIT: As this is getting a lot of attention, partly due to my lack of vital information in the above, let me expand on this:

  1. I was in an emotionally abusive relationship that culminated in this incident. She used a lot of manipulation on me to keep me in the relationship, and used that same manipulation to manipulate me into sex. For example, she had different playlists in iTunes she would play, one for when I was being a "good BF" full of love songs, and another that was full of breakup songs, for when I was being a "shitty BF." She would also give me ultimatums a lot, and would get guilt trip me every time I had to leave because I was running late for rehearsals or classes. She'd make fun of my balding head and tell me it's okay, because she will still love me even with a bald head, even though other girls won't. Whenever I tried to talk to her about this stuff, she'd just laugh it off and say I couldn't take a joke.

  2. The night in question, she coerced me through manipulation: She made me feel like I owed her sex, that sex was my way of proving my affection for her, continued to pressure me despite my repeated "no's" This is by definition "coercive sex," which is rape by definition.

  3. The legal, FBI defintion of rape doesn't even include vagina-on-penis rape: “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." To me, this means our definitions need to be updated.

  4. In fact, RAINN.org states that rape has very unclear and conflicting definitions: "The exact definition of “rape,” “sexual assault,” “sexual abuse” and similar terms differs by state. The wording can get confusing, since states often use different words to mean the same thing or use the same words to describe different things."

  5. Yes, it is partly my own doing for staying in the relationship, and for not saying "No, GTFOff me, I don't want sex." But emotionally abusive relationships are a power play between two individuals. I was the weaker of the two of us, and she used that weakness to fulfill her needs at my expense.

  6. What I gave was disingenuous consent. I said, "Ok, fine." but I didn't really mean it, and my last hour's worth of actions support that. So does disingenuous consent count as real consent? Some of you think it does, but I do not. I didn't give her genuine consent, and I feel she had every right to realize that. She had every reason to believe that my previous hour of pushing back her advances and clearly stating I wasn't interested in sex indicated that she proceeded in willful ignorance of my stance.

  7. Yes, I call it "rape" or "sexual assault" and will continue to do so until there is a better word to describe what I've experienced. I felt as violated and broken as many other "legit" rape victims I've met. And really, there's no better word. Except maybe "Sexual coercion," but something tells me that those of you who disagree with "rape" will also disagree with "sexual coercion." If you have a better word for it than either "rape," "sexual assault," or "sexual coersion," let me know.

[–]shouldnbeonredditOvech-kin pronouns: slapshot/slapshots/slapshotself 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, "logic" doesn't mean "sans emotion." It means learn what logical fallacies are and don't use them.

Yep. Being logical doesn't mean you can't cry or get upset. It just means that there's a clear connection from your premise to your conclusion rooted in facts.

I can speak logically about the series of events that led to me being suicidal for a time, but that doesn't mean that thinking about the time I thought about taking my own life doesn't make me emotional.

[–]Shayshunk 137ポイント138ポイント  (257子コメント)

Just a question, doesn't this still come into sex that you regret? No offense at all and absolute respect to you and your traumatic experience. Just, if you still had a choice was it rape? Or she did completely and utterly leave you in a position where you had to do it?

[–]slayerx1779 68ポイント69ポイント  (90子コメント)

I think there's a difference between sex I wanted and regretted later, and sex I never wanted and regretted allowing the whole time.

[–]GMNightmare 21ポイント22ポイント  (77子コメント)

The actual important difference lies in you allowing it vs it being physically forced upon you.

EDIT: When you don't recognize this, like My_Life_Uncensored did at the end of our... discussion... is that you start to think rape victims can be partly to blame for being raped. Which is disgusting, in my mind, but I guess that's emotional.

[–]slayerx1779 7ポイント8ポイント  (16子コメント)

Just because he allows it, does mean he enjoys it.

When I'm at work (as a cashier), I'm told to not resist in the event of a robbery. Am I now liable because I permitted it to happen? Even partially?

[–]GMNightmare 10ポイント11ポイント  (15子コメント)

Enjoyment is irrelevant to whether or not something is rape.

Sex doesn't have to be enjoyable to both parties. I doubt it's that much enjoyable for a prostitute for a quick example. In healthy relationships sometimes you just want to satisfy your partner. Things like that.

Did you have a choice in the robbery? No.

Did the parent have a choice in sex here? Yes.

In the event of rape, just because you don't fight back doesn't mean it's not rape.

But that's not what is happening here, the person made a choice they regretted.

Get the difference? Why the hell is this such a hard concept to get? You had a choice in the matter? Then it wasn't rape!

[–]porkmaster 98ポイント99ポイント  (40子コメント)

Sounds like it. Being guilted into sex is one of the bogus things that helped them come up with the "one in five" statistic.

[–]FireWankWithMe 33ポイント34ポイント  (32子コメント)

Coerced consent isn't proper consent, that's the whole reason people insist on 'no means no' and why the more misguided ones push for affirmative consent laws. When shit like this is called 'bogus' I begin to understand where the "teach men not to rape" crowd are coming from.

[–]porkmaster 20ポイント21ポイント  (19子コメント)

"No means no" is sufficient as you say. Guilted into it is a "no... no... ok,fine,whatever" situation. Just say no.

[–]FuckBrendan 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was legitimately raped by a woman. One night I went to a party after breaking my leg a week before... I was on crutches and taking Vicodin. I didn't realize how terribly pain killers mix with alcohol (I was 16) and I got sick pretty early in the party and had the owner of the house lay me down in her parents bed. Later that night I woke up to her sucking my dick and I told her to stop because my leg had me in a lot of pain. She eventually got on top of me, the pain nearly had me in tears and she started having sex with me. I was telling her to stop the whole time but she just kept saying it was okay and I needed to relax. She was really drunk so she wasn't being as gentle as she thought she was. And that's how I lost my virginity! Ha.

[–]sigurbjorn1 51ポイント52ポイント  (53子コメント)

I just dont think so, even though he was guilted, it seems like he gave consent. He didnt say she forced herself on him or blackmailed him, didnt take away his ability to consent. He just eventually caved. What was she going to do, beat him up? was she going to break up with him for saying no? If so, then the choice was end relationship or, by his opinion of what it was, get raped. why was he afraid to keep saying no? These things, far as the info we have, is an unknown and i can only speculate. But, based on what we know from his post, he didnt mention anything that would make me feel like it was rape. more that he was not in the mood and begrudgingly had sex because he didnt like the alternatives.

Edit: and now he is saying "not legal rape." he isnt a child or mentally handicapped who are considered to not have the faculties to resist this "guilting" in an imbalanced power paradigm, we can assume from his posts that he is above the age of consent, he is considered to have the faculties needed to take responsibility for his decisions. he said she said that she would think him a bad boyfriend if he didnt have sex with her, he weighed the consequences and decided on sex. I just dont think that even begins to qualify, regardless of the proposed gender reversals. Is it a shitty thing for your girlfriend to say? Absolutely. Is it shitty for her to guilt him into banging his girlfriend? Yeah, thats really not cool, guilting is an uncool thing to do in most circumstances between you and your lady. But, i dont think that makes it rape, "emotional" or otherwise(i mean, how can rape just be emotional or physical, is it not intrinsically an emotional and physical activity? if it is just emotional, how can it even be called rape?) He is stuggling to find ways to keep calling it rape, oh its not legal rape, it is emotional rape!
I'm starting to find it ironic that we are on /r/tumblrinaction.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored 17ポイント18ポイント  (45子コメント)

Having experienced what I experienced, I don't think rape is as simple as people think. It's a lot more complex than just "Did s/he say yes or no?"

She basically told me that if we ended the night and I didn't have sex with her, I would be some type of terrible boyfriend. "Not being good enough" is my greatest fear, and she used that to psychologically pressure me into sex I didn't feel comfortable with.

In a healthy relationship, my SO would not have pressured me for over an hour to do something I clearly didn't want to do, and would have respected my initial "I'm not in the mood tonight." And certainly would not have made me feel bad for not wanting sex.

[–]T-Husky 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can follow your reasoning; you may technically have given consent, but it was under duress... plenty of women have used the exact same reasoning to claim they have been raped, and plenty of men have been accused of victim blaming for suggesting that it was fully within their power to avoid having sex if their consent truly was withheld.

So does this mean you were raped? sort of. Sexual assault, like other forms of assault comes in varying degrees of seriousness, and it isnt really fair that we refer to every form of sexual assault as Rape with a capital R, because it always brings to mind the most traumatic and violent variety of sexual assault, rather than those where the victim's capacity to give consent has been compromised by a technicality which may not have been known to the accused.

Your girlfriend probably didnt realise that from your perspective she was committing a sexual assault; from her perspective she was merely being emotionally abusive, which isnt actually a crime, and something a lot of women seem to believe they are entitled to engage in to maintain power in relationships.

[–]RaunienActual Communist. Pronouns pro/le/tariat 15ポイント16ポイント  (53子コメント)

No. He was coerced. Therefore he was raped. If he had willingly, and without coercion, engaged in sex, then realised it was a bad idea after the fact, that would be his own stupid fault.

The fact remains that he was pressured and coerced into sex. The fact that he technically consented is irrelevant, as the consent was given under duress. That he actually had a choice is also irrelevant, as he did not feel he was able to make that choice. Circumstance is everything in a rape case, which is what makes them so difficult.

[–]rentaroco 29ポイント30ポイント  (33子コメント)

Coerce: persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats

She didn't coerce him - she convinced him.

[–]RichardRogerstrans-activist shitlordkin 13ポイント14ポイント  (17子コメント)

Nagging and causing guilt are not coercion or duress. Not in the slightest. Bugging someone until they choose to give in is a shitty way of influencing their decision, but it doesn't take the decision away from them. It wasn't rape because it didn't involve threats of violence or harm.

[–]Bronkic 48ポイント49ポイント  (22子コメント)

Convincing someone to have sex is not rape though. You couldstill have said "No", couldn't you?

[–]ATX_engineer 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

Is rape defined by physical force only, or can it include emotional/psychological manipulation without the presence of physical force?

Really difficult subjects here, and ultimately what his GF did was wrong and at a minimum emotional abuse and manipulation.

[–]WyldWyldStallyns 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's contextual. For instance if a girl threatened to tell everybody you raped her if you did not have sex with her, she would be putting you in a situation where without any violence it would not be in your best interest to say no. Conversely if she she threatened to give you a noogie if you didnt have sex, that would be a threat of violence where it would still be in your best interest to say no. Its a hard thing to come up with a universal rule for but I think the weight of the immediate consequences presented to you plays a huge role.

[–]Meecht 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

If a guy/girl constantly demeans/insults their SO, but never lays a hand on them, is that considered abuse? Of course it is. Too many people think that rape is defined by physical force, but it can also include being manipulated into the act.

[–]ATX_engineer 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Would you then define rape as any abuse used to achieve unwanted sex?

[–]bmmbooshootonly cishet shitlords can see my flair 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

you say "convincing" but it sounds more like "coercion, harrassing, abusing" to me. it may not be pure force but repeatedly and aggressively pushing someone to have sex with you is pretty rapey. also it's pretty naïve to just say "you could have said no" (he did) as if it was fine that she was browbeating him into doing something he didn't want to do. be careful of how you phrase things.

[–]Bronkic 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

All he said in his original post was that she "guilted him" into having sex. On it's own that didn't sound like coercion at all. If she indeed kept harassing and physically touching him for an hour, although he repeatedly told her to stop, than it's very "rapey" indeed. In that case, I wouldn't just call it "guilting him", though.

[–]PotatoDonki 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

If the tables were turned, people would definitely say that was coercion. I'm sorry that happened to you.

[–]UmarAlKhattab 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

To be devil's advocate, I think they were specifically talking about Men who weren't raped.

[–]slayerx1779 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

Normally I like being devil's advocate, too, but I'd like to propose this thought: Why specify "men" at all in that case? Why not just say "people who haven't been assaulted/raped"?

[–]vatreehugger 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

While making the assumption that any man who approaches the subject rationally in a discussion has most certainly never been raped.

[–]fatmofoingbagel 845ポイント846ポイント  (133子コメント)

Is she saying women can't be logical?

[–]kn33Free-kin. Freakin' Awesome! 1143ポイント1144ポイント  (43子コメント)

She's literally saying they're too emotional to be logical

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 132ポイント133ポイント  (11子コメント)

This is like the fifth SJW thing that I've seen this week alone where they're in full agreement with TRP.

[–]GPuzzle1Czech your privilege, slavlord 83ポイント84ポイント  (7子コメント)

/r/StormfrontOrSJW

They have a tendency to act like the opposite side in terms of how they say stuff, but this is getting ridiculous.

[–]rumbleinthegrundle 38ポイント39ポイント  (6子コメント)

Horseshoe theory. As it was in mid-1900s politics, so shall it be on Tumblr.

[–]fatmofoingbagel 450ポイント451ポイント  (17子コメント)

I know, ironically she's the most misogynistic of us all.

[–]moodorks 99ポイント100ポイント  (13子コメント)

(.)_(.)

*this is a sad face by the way

[–]steveryans2 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks like Rango or whatever that animated movie was that Johnny Depp was in.

[–]Selfweaver 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, that is definitely boobs. I can tell by the pixels.

[–]PatriArchangelle 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Old school sexist laws were designed to protect women by treating them like children. Less equality = less responsibilities = less risk. They believed women didn't have the logical and rational minds men do, so they were treated differently. Sometimes that meant not being able to own property or vote, sometimes it meant being first off a sinking boat or easily getting custody and alimony in a divorce. When feminism was about equality and equal rights, they fought against this and mostly won.

Now feminism is more so about protecting women. Protecting from rape, from abuse, from workplace misogyny, from people thinking they're unattractive, from video games, etc. They're vying for special treatment no other demographic (besides children) would get. They still want their freedoms, but are finding ways to get past protection they threw aside in the name of equality. They subconsciously treat women like children.

Expect to see more of this in the future. Many feminists will push to get a living salary without working, for any crimes against women to get more charges than the same crime against a man (already seeing this), for women to be less culpable for crimes they commit, etc. Maybe not tomorrow or even in ten years, but it's heading there. Full circle, baby!

[–]PhillipoDelTutiFruti 49ポイント50ポイント  (6子コメント)

That's why there aren't to many female EDM producers. They don't work well with "Logic" or "Reason".

[–]Gutawer 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

You fucking GENIUS

[–]cbg79 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gays are fine though, because they're fruity.

[–]couponsaver 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

they want a world where men aren't Ableto Live

[–]CalairielCountry bump-kin 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's literally more misogynistic than any man I've ever come across in engineering.

[–]bogidyboy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite was this one post where this girl was fuming because some guy told her women get too emotional. She didn't exactly set a good counter-example lol

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 37ポイント38ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220

Receptionist: How do you write women so well? Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

[–]Human_On_Reddit 98ポイント99ポイント  (79子コメント)

No.

She is saying rape emotionally affects more women than men, which is true. More women are raped than men. That is certainly a traumatic experience.

And even for women who aren't raped, they fear rape more than men. Most men don't even really think of getting raped. It's not really something we emotionally fear, in most cases, because it is less likely too happen to us.

Oops, I just discussed rape logically.

[–]beforeisaygoodnight 167ポイント168ポイント  (11子コメント)

As a male victim of rape and someone who has spent a lot of time working with outreach groups, ive got to tell you that the original post sells survivors of rape far too short. I've had more logical, grounded conversations about rape with other survivors than I ever have with my feminist friends who haven't experienced it. It isn't a fear of or the trauma of rape that keeps people from discussing it logically, it is the level to which sensationalisation is accepted as normal by a lot of our culture as long as the gender card can be played.

[–]mrob2738 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

I really hate how our culture (and tumblr) infantilizes rape survivors. I'm only vaguely acquainted with sexual assault recovery techniques, but isn't the goal to make one feel normal again?

[–]sum_devil 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

not for tumblrinas. They need to be victims b/c thats where they get their sympathy and power. Without a disorder or PTSD type event, they are nothing.

[–]beforeisaygoodnight 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's one of the biggest hurdles you face when getting through the experience, yes. Trust me, it's not just tumblr. I'm a 6'4 man built like a offensive lineman, but when people hear about the things I've been through, the treat me like I couldn't possibly fend for myself.

[–]Raenryong 52ポイント53ポイント  (2子コメント)

As a man I'm more likely to be murdered, mugged or beaten up. I still think about these things logically.

[–]Human_On_Reddit 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're just enjoying the benefit of male logic privelege.

/s

[–]mastigiapumpkin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

And by benefit you mean burden right?

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 94ポイント95ポイント  (41子コメント)

Except when you include male prisoners, more men are raped.

You know why I don't lead a life of crime? I don't want to be raped in prison. It's a fear.

[–]Carvemynameinstone 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

And it's literally the place which first coined the term "Rape Culture".

[–]Human_On_Reddit 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh shit, that's actually a good point.

I should have included that distinction about men in prison.

Even so, I imagine a man in prison is more emotionally fearful of rape than an average man because it is more likely to happen to them. So they probably don't process it logically as much, which is the point OP is trying to make.

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 22ポイント23ポイント  (8子コメント)

Way to mansplain, turdbaron.

[–]HrBergOS: Linux Linu Linus 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

I like that term.

I'm keeping that term.

It's now my term.

[–]stillnotkingRelishes cultural appropriation, in the form of burritos 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay, but if being afraid of something makes you less able to think about it logically, this implies that women in general are less capable than men of thinking about rape logically.

(I want to make it clear that I think this sort of generalization is stupid and worthless; I'm just going with her premise for the sake of argument.)

[–]SeriousMichaelShitlord Cantabrigian British 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

If that's their agenda then sign me the fuck up.

[–]Apoplectic1Magnets, how do they work? Sexism, that's how. 65ポイント66ポイント  (4子コメント)

Considering the term 'Rape Culture' was originally coined to describe the widespread phenomenon of men being raped in prison...

[–]HrBergOS: Linux Linu Linus 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

Intruiging. Go on.

[–]Apoplectic1Magnets, how do they work? Sexism, that's how. 53ポイント54ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was originally used in a documentary called Rape Culture, filmed in 1975 to describe prison rape culture in a Virginia prison. From the opening credits:

“A group of inmates at Lorton prison in Virginia organised “Prisoners Against Rape”. Only one member was a convicted rapist, but all felt the need to fight rape in prison and on the “outside”.

They worked with the DC Rape Crisis Centre.

Since the filming two of these men have been killed, victims of prison violence.”

Source

It was later revised in 1983 to focus more on the rape and violence against women, and appears to ignore the rape of men in prison altogether.

[–]DaraliiPronouns: CHIM/CHIM/CHIM 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was later revised in 1983 to focus more on the rape and violence against women, and appears to ignore the rape of men in prison altogether.

The bitter taste of irony.

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 164ポイント165ポイント  (24子コメント)

As always, male rape victims are erased, but let's ignore that for a bit. Maybe if they focused on how the idea that men are rational and women are emotional is sexist, they'd have a salient point. Instead, they make men out to be rational and women to be emotional. Seems like nobody does more to reinforce traditional notions about gender than people like this.

[–]spritanium 51ポイント52ポイント  (22子コメント)

Actual feminism is about equal treatment, nothing more. This new radical bullshit feminism is about validating the idea that women are fragile and helpless, but should still be in charge because men are big bullies.

[–]WyrmSaint 24ポイント25ポイント  (18子コメント)

At this point saying 'actual feminism' is just no true scotsman.

[–]kihadat 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

No, people can disagree about what it means to be a feminist, just like people can disagree about what it means to be a Republican or a liberal or a socialist.

[–]Indigoh 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

The people you're saying are not actual feminists are by definition actual feminists.

[–]foreveracubone 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not even 3rd wave anymore it's like the 4th wave became illiterate of what the last 3 waves believed (or fought for) and just went full retard.

[–]come_visit_detroit 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's never really been exclusively about equality. First wave didn't always argue for voting rights on the basis of equality (there was always - we need women voters to pass prohibition, we need women voters to keep us out of wars, women should have the right to vote because it's not right that black men can but white women can't), and the second wave gave us the SCUM manifesto among other things.

Feminism has always attracted and included a bunch of man-hating harpies and people with agendas beyond 'equality'. Frankly, every movement includes loads of people who are not ideologically 'pure of heart'.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not only does first-hand experience and/or emotional investment not give you special intellectual insight into an issue, it makes your opinion less valid for any policy discussion. This is the exact same reason that parents with autistic children should not be taken seriously in discussing the "connection" between vaccines and autism or that the family of a murder victim should not be involved in the trial / sentencing of an accused murderer:

Making an impartial attempt at objectivity is extremely important when discussing policy.

[–]Theflemishwreck 171ポイント172ポイント  (10子コメント)

But doesn't much of racism/sexism/homophobia come from a place of overly emotional thinking, such as religion, fear, or the desire to be superior?

[–]Amillyamilly 87ポイント88ポイント  (4子コメント)

Am I sensing the start of a logical debate here?

 

Get out.

[–]tux333transplanetary saturn-kin 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

please... this is the internet...

GTFO!!

[–]EntMoose 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Like, could you FUCKING NOT misquote/correct other users without their permission? Shitlord.

[–]tux333transplanetary saturn-kin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Taking this seriously...

seriously, shitlord?

[–]white_spruce 65ポイント66ポイント  (3子コメント)

Shove that logic up your ass, you privileged shitlord!

[–]Clunkbot2Privileged4u 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Appropriating anal culture? Lmao u str8 cis bois will never fukken lrn will u?

[–]white_spruce 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You misspelled "rape".

[–]TimbitsandBears 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was raped repeatedly as a little boy by a family friend if someone said that to my face I'd beat them within an inch of their blue hair life how's that for emotional attachment. Fuck this person and everything they believe in. I have been triggered.

[–]kaszak696Oppressionkin (Pronouns: he/him/his/RAPE!) 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why we don't let victims be prosecutors, emotional attachment clouds the judgment.

[–]WrathoflightThere can be only One Snowflake. 106ポイント107ポイント  (26子コメント)

The moment you let your emotions take over in a discussion/debate is the moment your arguments become invalid.

Some of the worst catastrophes has been helmed on decisions based on emotions (Terror attacks, witch trials, religious wars). They start to think up the worst case scenario, paint it black or white, then take the most extreme measure as the only solution to the problem. When people hold power and can't hold their emotions, things can go very bad, very quick.

Feels =/= Reality.

[–]Fuzzy1450TW: Starfish 27ポイント28ポイント  (9子コメント)

feels != reels

[–]Eight_Rounds_Rapid 18ポイント19ポイント  (8子コメント)

FEELZ B4 REALZ

[–]moodorks 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

feels > reals

[–]legit_free_candy 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

∀x∀y(Fx&Ry⊃x>y)

[–]Eight_Rounds_Rapid 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Math = Logic = Oppressive

Shitlord.

[–]Raskolnikov406 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

My math professor told us the other day he can't use the word trivial to describe a zero solution, because it is a micro aggression against people who have trouble grasping the concept. You could tell his disdain for the concept, but he hasn't used the word again either.

[–]InfernoVulpix 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, it doesn't make your arguments invalid per se, but it's a good warning sign that invalid (and loud) arguments are on the horizon, and that you might want to find someone more composed to debate with.

[–]MalaclypseTheYunger 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm currently working through a textbook called Social Research Methods by Alan Bryman.

The significance of feminism in relation to values goes further than this, however. In particular, several feminist social researchers around the early 1980s proposed that the principles and practices associated with quantitative research were incompatible with feminist research on women. For writers like Oakley (1981), quantitative research was bound up with male values of control that can be seen in the general orientation of the research strategy—control of the research subject/respondent and control of the research context and situation. Moreover, the research process was seen as one-way traffic, in which researchers extract information from the people being studied and give little, or more usually nothing, in return. For many feminists, such a strategy bordered on exploitation and was incompatible with feminism’s values of sisterhood and non-hierarchical relationships between women. The antipathy towards quantitative research resulted in a preference for qualitative research among feminists. Not only was qualitative research seen as more consistent with the values of feminism; it was seen as more adaptable to those values. Thus, feminist qualitative research came to be associated with an approach in which the investigator eschewed a value-neutral approach and engaged with the people being studied as people and not simply as respondents to research instruments. The stance of feminism in relation to both quantitative and qualitative approaches demonstrates the ways in which values have implications for the process of social investigation. In more recent years, there has been a softening of the attitudes of feminists towards quantitative research. Several writers have acknowledged a viable and acceptable role for quantitative research, particularly when it is employed in conjunction with qualitative research (Jayaratne and Stewart 1991; Oakley 1998).

Basically:

  • Logic, or at least logic as within the scientific method (to be fair, not the only kind), is incompatible with feminism.
  • This logic/scientific method is male and based in maleness.
  • Objective observations somehow isn't fair?... or good?... or something... (not clear whether we're disputing whether it's accurate though).
  • 'Qualitative research is more adaptable to feminist values'= It makes confirmation bias easier and that's preferable.
  • Quantitative research can be okay. But mostly so long as it's conclusions are guided by more malleable research conclusions.

I'm not one to write stuff shitting on feminism. I'm not convinced they all hate men. I've never used the term feminazi outside of referencing the term like just now.

But I do work in academia and you do see some hilarious shit sometimes like the above. This book is from 2012 (4th ed) by the way.

[–]ADD4Life1993 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Good lord. Can you imagine these SJWs in charge of anything actually important like national security?

[–]strangeloupLycanthromantic trans-werewolf, please use werenouns 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you imagine these SJWs in charge of anything

Sadly, yes :(

[–]ADD4Life1993 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can just see it now. Measures like the Department of Homeland Patriarchy Prevention and DTWA (Defence of Trans Washrooms Act).

[–]Golgon3 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Logic is male privilege" Someone should print that on a T-shirt and give it out for free at feminist rallies.

[–]audible_dog_fart 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I JUST WANT TO BE ANGRY

[–]JoonGoose 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

CHARGE YOUR DAMN PHONE

[–]orfane[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I had just woken up. I never thought I would be one of those guys

[–]headless_bourgeoisiePansexual spokesthing 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't charge it while you're asleep??

[–]newaccount1619 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, considering your "emotional attachment" to the issue will cloud your judgment, and my logical detachment will allow me to examine the issue clearly, I will enjoy my "privilege" and use it to actually contribute something to the discussion.

[–]Zeta42Patriadactyl 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rape victims can talk about rape logically as well, so your point is moot.

[–]raffastafarianHis name was EvilFuckingSociopath. 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I need feminism so I can sell all women short and cast us all as emotional victims."

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a reason the justice system is supposed to be blind.

http://i.imgur.com/57CEPhw.jpg

Remove emotion from the rulings, and judge the validity of the law and the defendant's actions..

[–]Flying-DodoDemibacopumpgenderLampkin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Justice always peeks.

[–]Conservativeoxen 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Charge your battery!!!!

[–]orfane[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always told myself I wouldn't be that guy with a low battery, and yet here I am

[–]legit_free_candy 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like to reply "You should be glad I am able to help you think clearly about the issue :)" but I value my life too much.

[–]theostrichsays 8ポイント9ポイント  (6子コメント)

So... If I'm reading this correctly, she is kind of admitting that rape is something that the overwhelming majority of men don't think about or partake in.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

No, no, no. Being a rape victim is something that males cannot understand. Obviously because Rape = rape + privilege, therefore it is literally impossible for a male to understand because they will always have more privilege than all women. But they do think about raping all the time. Obviously.

[–]raffastafarianHis name was EvilFuckingSociopath. 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Huh? Sorry I was thinking about raping again and didn't hear you. Can I rape that? Er.. can you repeat that? Dang I did it again! Typical dude, am I rite guys?

[–]ThePiderman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

As if every woman has been raped. And as if no man has ever been raped

[–]Shawn_of_the_Dead 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Translation: I should be able to exaggerate, misrepresent, or just flat out make shit up because it's how I feel.

[–]NDWolfwood5268 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know a guy who argues this. I try to view the issues in a detached manner because, you know, emotions don't help when deciding what laws should be. He claims I'm emotionally dead and incapable of understanding the argument because I'm so detached. All because I think false rape accusers should face a harsh punishment for trying to ruin someone's life.

[–]r0botdevil 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ignoring for a moment that this completely discounts the experience of all male rape victims and assuming that it was directed specifically at a man who's never been raped, I can actually see where OP is going with this. As a fairly large/strong man who's not likely to ever end up in prison, I basically don't have to worry about ever being raped even a little bit. Therefore, I will intrinsically have a more logical and less emotional viewpoint on the issue than a small, young girl who is literally several orders of magnitude more likely to become a rape victim at some point in her life.

OP was actually making a fairly valid point here, she just kinda ruined it by presenting it in typical overly whiny, self-victimizing Tumblr fashion.

[–]orfane[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree to a point. My thought though is that rape is a legal issue, and so logic should play a bigger role than emotion.

[–]Horoism 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

But the post is not stating that it shouldn't be judged in a rational fashion. It was only stated that women generally have a more emotional connection to rape than men (even though this was a bit ignorant) and that it is therefore often harder to not be emotional about it. There was nothing implying that being emotional when discussing it is the right approach. But of course, if you wouldn't have twisted the actual statement, then there wouldn't have been so much sweet karma for you.

[–]stillnotkingRelishes cultural appropriation, in the form of burritos 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If logic is male privilege, then by the symmetric property...

[–]riselikebread 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

BECAUSE GUYS CAN'T BE RAPED, RIGHT????

[–]badanas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has she ever heard of a place called prison?

[–]beerett84 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've never met anyone that acts like this before. Are these all troll accounts?

[–]MalZoclypso 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a white, partly heterosexual male who's been sexualky assaulted by both men and women..

Bitch please. I can debate sexism and rape till the pigs come home.

[–]red_white_blue 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm european and a left-winger - which to many in america would make me a straight-up commie; but this tumblr logic makes me so angry it's unreal.

It's so infuriatingly backwards.

[–]UglierThanMoeI love hypocrisy, except when I don't. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

feelz > realz

And that's both sad and illogical.

[–]nutt_butter_baseball 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The poster is trying to make what I think is a valid point of feminism but she doesn't quite understand it herself. We don't need to get rid of logic but we should try and incorporate feeling, emotion and human experience into decision making. It's impossible to define and shape your goal without taking these into consideration as they define our notions of right and wrong, better and worse. The effects on people in suffering and happiness should be considered as we take steps to counter evil in the world. But of course we don't need to eliminate logical thinking as we do this. They need to work together.

[–]bluedanieru 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

There is some wisdom there, sort of even if obviously not intended, in that discussing social issues logically sort of misses the plot, since almost nothing about how our society runs itself is based in logic.