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[–]fatmofoingbagel 203ポイント204ポイント  (47子コメント)

Is she saying women can't be logical?

[–]kn33Free-kin. Freakin' Awesome! 233ポイント234ポイント  (13子コメント)

She's literally saying they're too emotional to be logical

[–]fatmofoingbagel 108ポイント109ポイント  (5子コメント)

I know, ironically she's the most misogynistic of us all.

[–]moodorks 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

(.)_(.)

*this is a sad face by the way

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is like the fifth SJW thing that I've seen this week alone where they're in full agreement with TRP.

[–]GPuzzle1Czech your privilege, slavlord 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

/r/StormfrontOrSJW

They have a tendency to act like the opposite side in terms of how they say stuff, but this is getting ridiculous.

[–]rumbleinthegrundle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Horseshoe theory. As it was in mid-1900s politics, so shall it be on Tumblr.

[–]kami232Cishet Nordic Disney Supervillain CEO Extraordinaire [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So say we all

[–]iBelieveButton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, they do say AWALT...

[–]PhillipoDelTutiFruti [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's why there aren't to many female EDM producers. They don't work well with "Logic" or "Reason".

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220

Receptionist: How do you write women so well? Melvin Udall: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

[–]InfernoVulpix 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're also saying that, since rape is so abstract for men, that must mean no men ever rape! Problem solved.

[–]SeriousMichaelShitlord Cantabrigian British 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

If that's their agenda then sign me the fuck up.

[–]NoctuaaCOSVL·EXCREMENTIS 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

/s

[–]Human_On_Reddit 17ポイント18ポイント  (27子コメント)

No.

She is saying rape emotionally affects more women than men, which is true. More women are raped than men. That is certainly a traumatic experience.

And even for women who aren't raped, they fear rape more than men. Most men don't even really think of getting raped. It's not really something we emotionally fear, in most cases, because it is less likely too happen to us.

Oops, I just discussed rape logically.

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 39ポイント40ポイント  (5子コメント)

Except when you include male prisoners, more men are raped.

You know why I don't lead a life of crime? I don't want to be raped in prison. It's a fear.

[–]Human_On_Reddit 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shit, that's actually a good point.

I should have included that distinction about men in prison.

Even so, I imagine a man in prison is more emotionally fearful of rape than an average man because it is more likely to happen to them. So they probably don't process it logically as much, which is the point OP is trying to make.

[–]throwawaywaywayout [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I'm glad that fear of rape is keeping thousands, even millions, of men from committing heinous crimes.

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not even heinous crimes...

[–]shouldnbeonredditOvech-kin pronouns: slapshot/slapshots/slapshotself [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But I thought possesion of a plant which, when consumed, makes the consumer tired, relaxed, confused/confusable, and maybe a bit hungry was totally heinous on the level of taking another life!

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You mean Poppies of course? Heroin for all!

But seriously, as someone who is personally against smoking weed, I do think it needs to be legalized, but heavily regulated against underage use, and contact, since it does have an adverse affect to still-developing bodies.

But yeah, even if it's illegal, it should be on the level of a parking ticket, not jail time.

[–]beforeisaygoodnight 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a male victim of rape and someone who has spent a lot of time working with outreach groups, ive got to tell you that the original post sells survivors of rape far too short. I've had more logical, grounded conversations about rape with other survivors than I ever have with my feminist friends who haven't experienced it. It isn't a fear of or the trauma of rape that keeps people from discussing it logically, it is the level to which sensationalisation is accepted as normal by a lot of our culture as long as the gender card can be played.

[–]Human_On_Reddit [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Oh, damn. Sorry to hear that.

But yeah. Maybe there is truth to that sterotype that men are more logical than women, even with rape.

[–]shouldnbeonredditOvech-kin pronouns: slapshot/slapshots/slapshotself [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Maybe there is truth to that sterotype that men are more logical than women, even with rape.

Well, remember, feminist != woman.

[–]Human_On_Reddit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

True.

And I think most women don't even support feminism, I think.

Well, it depends on how the question is phrased. If it is defined as equality of the sexes beforehand (this is usually a written survey), the majorty agree.

If they are asked straight-up whether they identify or not as one, most say no.

[–]beforeisaygoodnight [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wasn't even trying to make a man vs woman argument. When I say I work with other victims, I mean of both genders. I have found that women are just as capable of having logical conversations about it, even as survivors, as men are. It's a line between people who have accepted the sensational view of rape culture for whom there is no logical basis to be found and people who have experienced it and have to find that logical ground to stay sane.

Basically, survivors aren't handicapped with fear. They aren't driven by their emotions to have no sense of reality. And in that fact I believe the person in the post is totally lost.

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 11ポイント12ポイント  (6子コメント)

Way to mansplain, turdbaron.

[–]HrBergOS: Linux Linu Linus 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

I like that term.

I'm keeping that term.

It's now my term.

[–]revivalmethod 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I made this? I made this.

[–]SlothyGamingOS: Linux, Linu, Linus 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Turdbaron" - The baron of turds. I love this.

[–]HrBergOS: Linux Linu Linus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I like your flair.

I'm keeping that flair.

It's now my flair.

[–]SlothyGamingOS: Linux, Linu, Linus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Linux empire shall spread!

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Fine. You're not even landed shit-lordship. Go sit with the Marquis de Sharts.

[–]Raenryong [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

As a man I'm more likely to be murdered, mugged or beaten up. I still think about these things logically.

[–]Human_On_Reddit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're just enjoying the benefit of male logic privelege.

/s

[–]fatmofoingbagel 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah fair enough, I saw it slightly differently, but think you might be right on reflection.

[–]Human_On_Reddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, but I kind of see your point, too.

[–]stillnotkingRelishes cultural appropriation, in the form of burritos 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay, but if being afraid of something makes you less able to think about it logically, this implies that women in general are less capable than men of thinking about rape logically.

(I want to make it clear that I think this sort of generalization is stupid and worthless; I'm just going with her premise for the sake of argument.)

[–]DisproveRainbowDash 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

hate to break the circlejerk, but good point.

[–]raffastafarianHis name was EvilFuckingSociopath. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

But... Saying that women can't control their emotions is a sexist stereotype!

[–]multiplesarcasms31Disagreeing with me is one of my triggers 436ポイント437ポイント  (46子コメント)

enjoy the privilege of being able to talk about rape without no emotional attachment.

Yeah, I'll be sure to tell that to my two of my guy friends, who were both molested when they were kids, that they don't have any emotional attachment to the subject. That the idea is so "abstract" to them that they can't even fathom what that's like.

[–]zang227 167ポイント168ポイント  (11子コメント)

Hey man, don't you know only women can be raped?

[–]Zeusolympus 73ポイント74ポイント  (5子コメント)

"Can" I've heard the body has a way to shut that whole thing down.

[–]BLUNTforDANVERS 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

God, every time I see this it makes me hurt that a Missouri guy said it. Not doing the state any favors.

[–]Sichais [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Called Misery for a reason, pretty though

[–]TouchDownBurrito [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But they say misery loves company?

[–]slayerx1779 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why do you think they brought 49 other suckers into their club?

[–]OhGatsby [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I live in Louisiana, every time I see Bobby Jindal in the news I get depressed. It's never good.

[–]FishstickIsles [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yep, no man has ever worried "if I get sent to jail I may get raped". Never.

[–]chaelland [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The show the boondocks has a character who literally goes to support groups because he is afraid that if he ever goes near a prison he will get viciously raped. At least one episode opens with him having a nightmare of a guy in prison raping him.

[–]heyitsmecarlos [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"My booty is mine, it belongs to me, you cannot have my booty"

[–]DisparityByDesign [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah the 5 year old boy probably wanted to get raped by his uncle, men enjoy sex.

[–]Axmeister [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I had a Sociology teacher who believed this.

[–]speakingcraniums [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Do your two friends go around arguing with women how they should feel about assault.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (26子コメント)

I'm a man and I was raped.

The story: My GF was mad at me because I wanted a "night to myself" (We were already having relationship issues and I needed some space). She barged into my dorm, super drunk, and guilted me into having sex with her. I was not in the mood, and was feeling really low, but she eventually guilted me into sex. Yes, I got an erection, and I even came, but I felt so violated and from then on the dynamic of our relationship changed, and it took 6+ years after we broke up for me to recover.

My response to this: I can be emotional about rape, and still am. It is scary for me to talk about it, which is why I use an alt account. But that doesn't mean we can't have logical discussion, for Christ's sake! Let's think critically about this shit and look at different points of view and try to work on this issue from BOTH sides, male and female.

Also, "logic" doesn't mean "sans emotion." It means learn what logical fallacies are and don't use them.

[–]Shayshunk [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

Just a question, doesn't this still come into sex that you regret? No offense at all and absolute respect to you and your traumatic experience. Just, if you still had a choice was it rape? Or she did completely and utterly leave you in a position where you had to do it?

[–]porkmaster [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Sounds like it. Being guilted into sex is one of the bogus things that helped them come up with the "one in five" statistic.

[–]slayerx1779 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think there's a difference between sex I wanted and regretted later, and sex I never wanted and regretted allowing the whole time.

[–]RaunienActual Communist. Pronouns pro/le/tariat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No. He was coerced. Therefore he was raped. If he had willingly, and without coercion, engaged in sex, then realised it was a bad idea after the fact, that would be his own stupid fault.

The fact remains that he was pressured and coerced into sex. The fact that he technically consented is irrelevant, as the consent was given under duress. That he actually had a choice is also irrelevant, as he did not feel he was able to make that choice. Circumstance is everything in a rape case, which is what makes them so difficult.

[–]sigurbjorn1 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I just dont think so, even though he was guilted, it seems like he gave consent. He didnt say she forced herself on him or blackmailed him, didnt take away his ability to consent. He just eventually caved. What was she going to do, beat him up? was she going to break up with him for saying no? If so, then the choice was end relationship or, by his opinion of what it was, get raped. why was he afraid to keep saying no? These things, far as the info we have, is an unknown and i can only speculate. But, based on what we know from his post, he didnt mention anything that would make me feel like it was rape. more that he was not in the mood and begrudgingly had sex because he didnt like the alternatives.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Having experienced what I experienced, I don't think rape is as simple as people think. It's a lot more complex than just "Did s/he say yes or no?"

She basically told me that if we ended the night and I didn't have sex with her, I would be some type of terrible boyfriend. "Not being good enough" is my greatest fear, and she used that to psychologically pressure me into sex I didn't feel comfortable with.

In a healthy relationship, my SO would not have pressured me for over an hour to do something I clearly didn't want to do, and would have respected my initial "I'm not in the mood tonight." And certainly would not have made me feel bad for not wanting sex.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

When I broke up with her, I talked about this night, and she was convinced it was consensual. I did say "Ok, fine, let's have sex," and when that night she asked, "Did I take advantage of you?" I responded, "No, I said we should have sex."

Which is why male rape seems more complicated. But really, it's simple. She psychologically coerced me into having sex against my will. For a good hour, I was trying to assert that I wasn't interested, but she kept at it, essentially telling me I was being a bad boyfriend for not fucking her. All of my words and body language were giving her clear signals that I did not want sex. I finally gave up, I guess because I was fed up with her advances and wanted her to stop. That's not what I call consensual sex.

But when we look at the complexities of male rape, we realize that female rape is also complex. It's very rarely a man jumping her in an alley, or even involving date rape drugs. I think most of the time, rape is a power play between two people, and sometimes the aggressor is female, and sometimes the aggressor is male.

[–]LegalAlt12093487 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's how it was with my ex wife for a long time. Emotionally, things had been going down hill for a long time. She would have these irrational demands that I do things, and she'd pick fights over unrelated shit until I capitulated. Not sexual things, just like... freaking out over the fact that we lived in an apartment rather than a real house.

"Get me a real house and we'll stop fighting" etc etc. Then she moved on to demanding things in bed that I wasn't comfortable with. She demanded that I tie her up, or insult her, or hit her. A few times I tried, but I just couldn't. So she got worse.

She started just watching porn while we had sex. She didn't ask about it, she would just open up her laptop in the middle of things and start watching it. I told her how terrible it made me feel and she didn't care. She started demanding that I watch it and pay no attention to her during sex. It made me feel disgusting.

Finally, we went on vacation to Montreal for a week. That's when she really went off the deep end. I'd been awake for about 28 hours already, the first night we were there... and she decided that she was going to get hers no matter the cost. She used sleep deprivation as a way to coerce me into agreeing... she literally used the phrase "you don't get to sleep until you fuck me" in the ensuing fight.

I did it, and then I fell asleep in the shower trying to make myself feel clean again.

I can barely talk about it IRL, even with people that I trust... because it just sounds ridiculous. She's a full foot shorter than me. I know most people wouldn't believe it.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Sorry that happened to you, man. It sounds super shitty.

For the longest time, I struggled with accepting it myself. And once I finally came to terms with what happened, it was a long time before I felt comfortable telling others. I feared no one would believe me, but people did.

Just know that I believe you. Height and gender don't mean anything when it comes to rape (or sexual assault or whatever you want to call it).

Glad to hear she is your ex. Those kinds of relationships can be really difficult to leave, because they can be so manipulating. Good job opening up like this, though. It gets easier the more you do it, as you probably know.

[–]LegalAlt12093487 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The relationship didn't end for another 6 months after that, when I found out she'd gone on Craigslist looking for someone else to fuck. She told him "If you get me pregnant, I'll just pass it off as his. You kinda look like him anyway."

I don't think she went through with it, but it doesn't matter.

[–]Shayshunk [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well again, no disrespect at all to what happened to you, but the definition of rape is when you do not give consent but are physically or psychologically forced into having sex. Like a woman who gets raped by being told if she doesn't allow a guy to have sex with her then her loved ones will be harmed. Or a guy being tied to a pole and being fed Viagra or vice versa. I think what happened to you was borderline because she was your girlfriend and things might've gone really south if you hadn't done it. A very similar thing happened to my girlfriend with her ex so I know exactly where you're coming from and I understand how it feels but I still wouldn't attach the word rape to it. Only because of how strong the word rape really is.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, that's where I think perhaps the definition of "rape" needs to be re-examined. Even though I said "Ok, fine, let's have sex," my mind and heart were not in it.

RAINN.org says:

The exact definition of “rape,” “sexual assault,” “sexual abuse” and similar terms differs by state. The wording can get confusing, since states often use different words to mean the same thing or use the same words to describe different things. To see how your state legally defines these crimes, visit our RAINN State Law Database.

To me, that means there is no clear definition, like you are supposing.

In any case, "rape" or "not rape," I was sexually assaulted. I was coerced into sex. I was manipulated into saying, "Ok, fine." It was very traumatic, and affected my life for many years, and I had signs of PTSD because of it.

[–]Bronkic [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Convincing someone to have sex is not rape though. You couldstill have said "No", couldn't you?

[–]bmmbooshootonly cishet shitlords can see my flair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you say "convincing" but it sounds more like "coercion, harrassing, abusing" to me. it may not be pure force but repeatedly and aggressively pushing someone to have sex with you is pretty rapey. also it's pretty naïve to just say "you could have said no" (he did) as if it was fine that she was browbeating him into doing something he didn't want to do. be careful of how you phrase things.

[–]ATX_engineer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is rape defined by physical force only, or can it include emotional/psychological manipulation without the presence of physical force?

Really difficult subjects here, and ultimately what his GF did was wrong and at a minimum emotional abuse and manipulation.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

But she didn't really "convince" me, rather, I was fed up with her advances and wanted her to stop. That's not what I call consensual sex.

You couldstill have said "No", couldn't you?

Actually I was saying "no"... for a good solid hour. I was trying to watch a movie. I kept telling her I wasn't in the mood. My words and body language were clear.

Why did I give up? I guess I was weak, with not enough willpower to say "No, get off me, I don't want this, get out of my room!" In a way, i wish I did.

Rape probably happens more to weaker people who don't have the strength to say and do these things. Rape is a power play, the aggressor is typically manipulative and preys on weaker individuals. Obviously now I'm stronger and this kind of situation would not happen to me now, but just because in the end I gave up, does not make it consensual.

[–]shouldnbeonredditOvech-kin pronouns: slapshot/slapshots/slapshotself [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also, "logic" doesn't mean "sans emotion." It means learn what logical fallacies are and don't use them.

Yep. Being logical doesn't mean you can't cry or get upset. It just means that there's a clear connection from your premise to your conclusion rooted in facts.

I can speak logically about the series of events that led to me being suicidal for a time, but that doesn't mean that thinking about the time I thought about taking my own life doesn't make me emotional.

[–]PotatoDonki [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If the tables were turned, people would definitely say that was coercion. I'm sorry that happened to you.

[–]yes_thats_right [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

sorry that happened man.

[–]My_Life_Uncensored [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Thanks. It sucked, but I found a great woman who helped me get through it. We are going on year 2 of marriage!

[–]slayerx1779 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Life kicked you in the balls and you chokeslammed it into the table. GG, brother.

[–]CoolCid2020fores-kin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Congrats on the marriage part

[–]Dueperdue [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

*Man

*Rape

Pick one.

[–]Tyler_Burr [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, been there too myself. When do I get to be an oppressed snowflake? :(

[–]timag [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Outside of your point about the erasure of male victims, should people who don't have any real experience with an issue be able to talk about it? Can I discuss, say illegal immigration without having been an illegal immigrant or affected by it in any capacity?

I for one think a fresh set of eyes free of colored perceptions has its place in these debates.

[–]multiplesarcasms31Disagreeing with me is one of my triggers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I agree, just because someone hasn't personally experienced something doesn't mean they can't have an opinion. Like I think murder is a terrible crime, have I ever been murdered? Has anyone close to me been murdered? Has someone ever attempted to murder me? The answer to all of those is 'no' but I can still have an opinion on it, same goes for rape; I myself have never been raped or molested, though people close to me have, as stated above, but I don't have first hand experience. I still think it's a terrible crime and that perpetrators of it should face extensive punishment but I still think a lot of rape accusations are handled ham-fistedly with a guilty until proven innocent mindset.

What really annoys me about the whole thing though is how SJW's have completely devalued the meaning of rape/sexual assault/sexual abuse in order to include themselves and having said they've experienced it. I remember an SJW friend of mine telling me that she was sexually assaulted because some guys catcalled her from their car. I didn't say anything to her but in my head I thought "Seriously? If that's the criteria then I've been sexually assaulted countless times as well as 90% of all people."

[–]UmarAlKhattab [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

To be devil's advocate, I think they were specifically talking about Men who weren't raped.

[–]slayerx1779 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Normally I like being devil's advocate, too, but I'd like to propose this thought: Why specify "men" at all in that case? Why not just say "people who haven't been assaulted/raped"?

[–]UmarAlKhattab [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think because the poster has some thing against men, it was a clear sexist indication. In her Mind, Men are never raped. Not defending her BTW, because I hate people who are emotional like her rather than logical, especially since she was never raped.

[–]brotherjustincroweProfanitykin, pronouns: SHIT FUCK CUNT 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

As always, male rape victims are erased, but let's ignore that for a bit. Maybe if they focused on how the idea that men are rational and women are emotional is sexist, they'd have a salient point. Instead, they make men out to be rational and women to be emotional. Seems like nobody does more to reinforce traditional notions about gender than people like this.

[–]Vaux1916Kentucky Straight Bourbon-kin. Pronouns: Mash/Mash/Mashself 73ポイント74ポイント  (5子コメント)

Remember when feminism fought against the stereotype that women were unable to control their emotions, and that they were irrational because of this? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah but since all women are apparently rape victims, it is understandable. So obviously, rationality/impartiality/objectivity should just be abandoned wholesale.

[–]mrswagpoophead 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not all women think this way. In fact, few do. The only ones that do are these dildos on tumblr.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly, but these few want all women to feel like victims.

[–]ByWayOfLaniakea [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What a lovely, equal view of the future. Insanity.

[–]riselikebread [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Its a different thing every day

[–]Theflemishwreck 54ポイント55ポイント  (5子コメント)

But doesn't much of racism/sexism/homophobia come from a place of overly emotional thinking, such as religion, fear, or the desire to be superior?

[–]Amillyamilly 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Am I sensing the start of a logical debate here?

 

Get out.

[–]tux333transplanetary saturn-kin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

please... this is the internet...

GTFO!!

[–]white_spruce 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

Shove that logic up your ass, you privileged shitlord!

[–]Clunkbot2Privileged4u [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Appropriating anal culture? Lmao u str8 cis bois will never fukken lrn will u?

[–]WrathoflightThere can be only One Snowflake. 55ポイント56ポイント  (14子コメント)

The moment you let your emotions take over in a discussion/debate is the moment your arguments become invalid.

Some of the worst catastrophes has been helmed on decisions based on emotions (Terror attacks, witch trials, religious wars). They start to think up the worst case scenario, paint it black or white, then take the most extreme measure as the only solution to the problem. When people hold power and can't hold their emotions, things can go very bad, very quick.

Feels =/= Reality.

[–]Fuzzy1450TW: Starfish 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

feels != reels

[–]Eight_Rounds_Rapid 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

FEELZ B4 REALZ

[–]moodorks 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

feels > reals

[–]legit_free_candy 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

∀x∀y(Fx&Ry⊃x>y)

[–]Eight_Rounds_Rapid 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Math = Logic = Oppressive

Shitlord.

[–]Raskolnikov406 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My math professor told us the other day he can't use the word trivial to describe a zero solution, because it is a micro aggression against people who have trouble grasping the concept. You could tell his disdain for the concept, but he hasn't used the word again either.

[–]tanjoodo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

∀x∀y(F(x)∧R(y)→x>y)

FTFY, unless you meant to say that F(x)∧R(x) is a proper superset of x>y

[–]legit_free_candy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In some notations material implication can be represented with the hook as I did. It's especially common in philosophy. Conjunction can be an & as well, or the hat that you used (which actually I prefer). But I suspect if you are also using set theory in your problem best to avoid the hook as material implication like you did.

[–]InfernoVulpix 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, it doesn't make your arguments invalid per se, but it's a good warning sign that invalid (and loud) arguments are on the horizon, and that you might want to find someone more composed to debate with.

[–]ADD4Life1993 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good lord. Can you imagine these SJWs in charge of anything actually important like national security?

[–]strangeloupLycanthromantic trans-werewolf, please use werenouns [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Can you imagine these SJWs in charge of anything

Sadly, yes :(

[–]ADD4Life1993 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can just see it now. Measures like the Department of Homeland Patriarchy Prevention and DTWA (Defence of Trans Washrooms Act).

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Conspiracy Theorists use emotion to blind themselves to logic and evidence!

[–]Ben_geeeIt was my privilege [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The moment you let your emotions take over in a discussion/debate is the moment your arguments become invalid.

I'm sorry but that's absolute bullshit.
Hell of a straw man you've built there btw

[–]legit_free_candy 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would like to reply "You should be glad I am able to help you think clearly about the issue :)" but I value my life too much.

[–]Apoplectic1Magnets, how do they work? Sexism, that's how. 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Considering the term 'Rape Culture' was originally coined to describe the widespread phenomenon of men being raped in prison...

[–]HrBergOS: Linux Linu Linus 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Intruiging. Go on.

[–]Apoplectic1Magnets, how do they work? Sexism, that's how. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It was originally used in a documentary called Rape Culture, filmed in 1975 to describe prison rape culture in a Virginia prison. From the opening credits:

“A group of inmates at Lorton prison in Virginia organised “Prisoners Against Rape”. Only one member was a convicted rapist, but all felt the need to fight rape in prison and on the “outside”.

They worked with the DC Rape Crisis Centre.

Since the filming two of these men have been killed, victims of prison violence.”

Source

It was later revised in 1983 to focus more on the rape and violence against women, and appears to ignore the rape of men in prison altogether.

[–]Golgon3 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Logic is male privilege" Someone should print that on a T-shirt and give it out for free at feminist rallies.

[–]theostrichsays 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

So... If I'm reading this correctly, she is kind of admitting that rape is something that the overwhelming majority of men don't think about or partake in.

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, no, no. Being a rape victim is something that males cannot understand. Obviously because Rape = rape + privilege, therefore it is literally impossible for a male to understand because they will always have more privilege than all women. But they do think about raping all the time. Obviously.

[–]NDWolfwood5268 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know a guy who argues this. I try to view the issues in a detached manner because, you know, emotions don't help when deciding what laws should be. He claims I'm emotionally dead and incapable of understanding the argument because I'm so detached. All because I think false rape accusers should face a harsh punishment for trying to ruin someone's life.

[–]Zeta42Patriadactyl 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rape victims can talk about rape logically as well, so your point is moot.

[–]newaccount1619 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, considering your "emotional attachment" to the issue will cloud your judgment, and my logical detachment will allow me to examine the issue clearly, I will enjoy my "privilege" and use it to actually contribute something to the discussion.

[–]audible_dog_fart 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I JUST WANT TO BE ANGRY

[–]abd9344Fat-Shaming Healthist Elitist 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not only does first-hand experience and/or emotional investment not give you special intellectual insight into an issue, it makes your opinion less valid for any policy discussion. This is the exact same reason that parents with autistic children should not be taken seriously in discussing the "connection" between vaccines and autism or that the family of a murder victim should not be involved in the trial / sentencing of an accused murderer:

Making an impartial attempt at objectivity is extremely important when discussing policy.

[–]phaseMonkeyTrans*otterkin 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's a reason the justice system is supposed to be blind.

http://i.imgur.com/57CEPhw.jpg

Remove emotion from the rulings, and judge the validity of the law and the defendant's actions..

[–]kaszak696Oppressionkin (Pronouns: he/him/his/RAPE!) [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's why we don't let victims be prosecutors, emotional attachment clouds the judgment.

[–]riselikebread [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

BECAUSE GUYS CAN'T BE RAPED, RIGHT????

[–]badanas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Has she ever heard of a place called prison?

[–]slackwaresupport [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

omg.. put another goddamn tampon in.

[–]58king [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is like horseshoe theory. Sometimes Tumblrinas and Red Pillers sound identical. "Women too emotional to have logical discussion" is pretty hilarious coming from someone who probably identifies as a feminist.

[–]JoonGoose [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

CHARGE YOUR DAMN PHONE

[–]orfane[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I had just woken up. I never thought I would be one of those guys

[–]moodorks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

She is proof of her own argument that women can't be logical.

Which is kind of circular.

[–]stillnotkingRelishes cultural appropriation, in the form of burritos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If logic is male privilege, then by the symmetric property...

[–]Eruntien 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

This ie a really old repost.

[–]orfane[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Took it myself this morning. The tumblr post might be old but it was on my facebook today

[–]ThePiderman [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As if every woman has been raped. And as if no man has ever been raped

[–]beerett84 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I've never met anyone that acts like this before. Are these all troll accounts?

[–]orfane[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Dunno about the tumblr itself, but the guy who posted it is serious

[–]porkmaster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And simply stating facts is "mansplaining"...

[–]barney420 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

just kill it with fire

[–]raffastafarianHis name was EvilFuckingSociopath. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"I need feminism so I can sell all women short and cast us all as emotional victims."

[–]stingharkonnen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Muh feelz

[–]napi5I sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's all in the name.

[–]Counterfate 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

REASON SHALL PREVAIL!

[–]orfane[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I took this off facebook this morning. While idk the blog to know if it is satire or not, it was shared by a very active SJW so if it is satire they can't tell either

[–]Conservativeoxen [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Charge your battery!!!!

[–]orfane[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I always told myself I wouldn't be that guy with a low battery, and yet here I am

[–]TyloanBigBrackgui [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

kekekeke

[–]narpilepsy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's a sad attempt at playing the victim card but she really only ends up saying that women are too emotional to have logical discussions on things. I think its incredible how stupid some people can be.

[–]seiyonoryuuVaramyr Six-Kins [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

OH, you're not trying to be taken seriously, you've just been venting this whole time? Alright, I'll remember to listen but disregard anything you say.

[–]AngryWatchmaker [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Its like they can't even see that what they are saying is absurdly sexist against women. "Us women are too stupid to take emotion out discourse, fuck men for being able to"

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[–]XFX_Samsung [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That's why I don't trust female politicians. Odds are, they make a lot of their decisions because of emotional thrive without thinking clearly. Probably sexist to think that way but I'm not completely wrong.

[–]seiyonoryuuVaramyr Six-Kins [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I mean, dude, look at the decisions that usually lead to war. Most of the time a big factor is men being stupid bullheaded men. We have justifications, but there's a lot of dick measuring that goes into most of those situations. So it's not just the ladies.

[–]XFX_Samsung [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, i don't trust any politicians really, maybe i should clarify that :D

[–]bluedanieru [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is some wisdom there, sort of even if obviously not intended, in that discussing social issues logically sort of misses the plot, since almost nothing about how our society runs itself is based in logic.

[–]nutt_butter_baseball [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The poster is trying to make what I think is a valid point of feminism but she doesn't quite understand it herself. We don't need to get rid of logic but we should try and incorporate feeling, emotion and human experience into decision making. It's impossible to define and shape your goal without taking these into consideration as they define our notions of right and wrong, better and worse. The effects on people in suffering and happiness should be considered as we take steps to counter evil in the world. But of course we don't need to eliminate logical thinking as we do this. They need to work together.