True Nonduality And Neo-Advaita – Moving Beyond A Cognitive Realization

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Intro

Of the several non-dual spiritual traditions, Advaita Vedanta is perhaps the oldest. It is based on the teachings of the Upanishads (the oldest of which, Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, dates from 900 BCE), the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita. It’s most famous historical exponent was Adi Shankara, who in the 800 CE revived Hinduism in a Buddhism-dominated India, winning over all its opponents in debate.

In the last 200 years, with the cross-fertilization between East and West, Advaita Vedanta got modernized, and there were also a new movement that derived from it, called neo-Advaita by scholars. In this article I will explore the differences between traditional, modern, and neo-Advaita; I will also discuss the problems with this latter movement, and propose solutions to integrate it into a more wholesome yet contemporarily relevant form of Nondual Spirituality. While the philosophical framework has remained basically intact all along, the approach to practice and enlightenment underwent radical changes.

If you are interested in Nondual Spirituality, especially Hindu based, this article will give you an overview of the traditional, modern, and post-modern views on practice and Enlightenment. While writing this article, I tried to build things from the ground up. Yet it ended up being a bit dense, so it’s not the type of article most beginners in spirituality would appreciate.

Just as Yoga has undergone many distortions in the West, which has reduced it largely to a physical asana practice, so too Advaita is often getting reduced to an instant enlightenment fad, to another system of personal empowerment or to another type of pop psychology. – David Frawley

  • http://www.liveanddare.com/ Giovanni Dienstmann

    [Spiritual joke] The seeker goes to the neo-Advaita shop…

    Seeker: I’d like a McAdvaita combo, please!
    Teacher: What should I include in it?
    Seeker: Make me one with everything!
    Teacher: Not a problem.
    Seeker: Could I also have some enlightenment with those fries, please?
    Teacher: Sure. That will cost you nothing.

  • Lewis Welsby

    Absolutely love this post. I’ve been searching for something to help guide me. Every where I read turn to the quick fix of enlightenment, this is not how it should be.

    • http://www.liveanddare.com/ Giovanni Dienstmann

      Great that you had this discernment, Lewis!
      You can find some valuable guidance in the books I recommended in the first sections.

  • earmorethere2

    Giovanni Dienstmann must be a buddha in the future if not now, whose posts are always the best of the best I read ever!

    • http://www.liveanddare.com/ Giovanni Dienstmann

      That’s the goal! The seed is in all of us. :-)

  • Jorge Falcão

    I falow the teatching of Master Poonja (Papaji). Never heared and experienced a so great teaching : ” If you d’ont think you think better” …
    Discipe – … ” What is nirvana ?”
    Master – ” I tell you: nirvana is not having concepts in your mind ”
    D. – ” Oh but i have many concepts in my mind !
    M. – ” This is a concept ”
    The impact of This unique conversation so great it was (so great it is) lead me to go to join Papaji in India and staying and a travel with Him during 45 days … He was a great Master, a boudha, similar and in the way of the great chan patriarchs of China, like Houi Neng, for instance … his teaching is outside the tradition, the scriptures … unless he knew deeply and could teach acording the scriptures and the tradition.
    He pointed directly to the True, their sayings were adressed to your Heart … no study of scriptures are needed to realize in this moment, in a fraction of second, who you are, your True Nature, to realize yourSelf … provided your mind is quite, in silence … and your Heart is open to the Truth … you must not have any idea about who you are, any idea about what is yourSelf … it is not by the reason, by the mind, it is not by the intelect that you realize the True. Never, never yourSelf is the idea/the identification your mind believes it is …
    The inconventional way of his teaching (“teaching” here meaning destroying beliefs, ideas, concepts) is probably the reason of some discomfort about That Teaching
    Om shanti
    Love,
    Jorge Falcão

    • http://www.liveanddare.com/ Giovanni Dienstmann

      Hi Jorge,

      Thank you for mentioning Papaji. I have read every single book he has, watched dozens of his Satsangs, and I love his presence. There is no doubt he is a fully realized Jnani, and a master of modern Advaita. He is not really a neo-advaitin, although the neo-advaitins use his teachings.

      Papaji did a lot of spiritual effort, both in this life and (according to himself), in previous lives. You can read his three-volume biography (Nothing Ever Happened) for more details. He did so much practice and meditation until the point he could not do any more effort. Then he had the good luck of meeting Ramana Maharshi, who then pushed him through the last step.

      That is hardly the case with any of us. The vast majority of aspirants nowadays (me included) don’t have a fraction of the spiritual maturity and advancement that Papaji already had in his childhood. And also we did not have the chance of meeting Ramana Maharshi.

      It is true that, after his realization, Papaji emphasized non-effort. His goal was to give an immediate experience of the Self to people that come to him. The only way that is possible is by being in a presence of a fully realized one, and dropping all effort.

      It is important to note, also, that when asked about it by David Godman, Papaji said that none of his students realized the Self. Yet hundreds of them had a direct experience of the Self.

      It is easy to understand why it is like this. Ramana Maharshi said:

      “In the presence of a Jnani [enlightened man] Samadhi can happen. To be fully established in this state, however, effort is needed.”

  • Ande Falke

    that which you were before the “I” was born, you become that when the “I” dies-true or false

    • http://www.liveanddare.com/ Giovanni Dienstmann

      You can say that. Like Ramana said: “The I removes the I and yet remains the I”.

      The “true I” is the Self, “I am”. The “false I” is the ego, “I am this, I am like that, I am this body-mind”. You are ever the Self, and the Self alone. Yet, due to spiritual ignorance (the ego), consciousness is trapped under the identification with the body-mind, and lives under the confines of a limited and fake identity.