thenonbinarysafespace:

justiceluxray:

so its not a safespace for all nonbinary people. Just be honest. That’s like when people are/were like “in america ALL people can get married, but you just can’t have a same sex marraige.”  Your first sentence is made false by everything you said afterward.

You just told truscum nonbinaries that non-dysphoric nb people are more important than them. 

Actually, we’re saying the comfort and safety of our nonbinary followers, regardless of whether they identify with the term trans or not, regardless if they feel dysphoria or not, will ALWAYS trump someone’s supposed need to degrade them and their existence

This is a safe space, not a space that we will allow someone to spew hate at our other followers. The fact that you are attributing safety to your ability to be able to do that means you don’t understand what safety really is. If you don’t like it, if you don’t like that truscum ideology isn’t welcome here, then you are more than welcome to leave. 

Goodbye, I hope dearly that you don’t hurt too many people in your life

-Mod Muon

Oh my god why do they struggle with this concept so much

Like a while ago I went to this badass queer anarchist punk festival that had suggested donations to get in but wouldn’t turn anyone away. Anyone was welcome to come in and attend.

However, one strict policy they had was against cultural appropriation, particularly in hairstyles. People who came in wearing their hair in appropriated styles would be asked to leave. In fact, I saw a friend of mine who was working there in some organizational capacity speaking to someone white who’d come in with their hair done up in a very large Mohawk style, after which I didn’t see them around again.

That doesn’t mean that they lied about not turning people away. Anyone was welcome who didn’t actively behave in an oppressive manner and thereby disrupt the space. To ask a white person with dreads or a Mohawk to leave an (among other things) anti-racist event isn’t going back on some promise of unconditional inclusion for everyone. It’s removing people who are being racist from a space that’s meant to be welcoming to victims of racism.

The same principle applies here. Truscum threaten the safety of trans and nonbinary spaces, and just because you’ve got a half-assed social ideology behind your hatefulness doesn’t make any objection to truscum being present in safe spaces just a matter of opinion, because what truscum do when they enter discussions isn’t just philosophical. None of it is purely ideological. They attack and verbally abuse real people. That’s real aggression and real hostility, and no safe space is obligated to tolerate that for the sake of your inclusion. In fact, the safety of a space more or less relies on not doing that.

TL;DR: Removing harmful elements from a safe space isn’t exclusionary; it’s self-defense and necessary maintenance of the space’s safety.