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[–]NeoreactionSafe 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

What changed?

We went from owners to providers.

That's a massive change in the way you mentally imagine a woman.

It's like owning a home and a 30 year mortgage versus renting an apartment. (I've owned two homes, so I have personal experience). When you own something and you envision a long life attached to that something it changes the way you think about it.

That word is pride. Ownership induces pride.

In today's world one never has pride of his girlfriend... it's more about tolerance of her shit testing. It borders on disgust when she behaves badly.

It's actually hard to even see what the old ways were like now. It's forgotten.

I'm 54 and managed through my father to have learned a vision of what life should have been like, but that world is long gone.

Get used to renting the girls... you can't own them now.

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[–]musclebound92[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would you say that we owned in the past, and they leased? Or was it a mutual ownership? Sorry if that seems vague but I hope you understand what I am getting at

[–]robotghow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Things you own, end up owning you."

Like he said, ownership isn't just about power, it's about pride and appreciation. Did women have pride and appreciation for their men? I should hope so. Actually, I hope some still do.

[–]Retro93 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And really, why would we want to own them in this day and age? Committing to the common women today is similar to buying a crack house in a bad neighborhood (to keep the housing analogy going).

Even when you find a "good one" it wouldn't take you long to realize that despite its pleasant outward appearance, the roof is leaky, there are holes in the walls, and someone had been killed in it before you moved in.

Renting is the way to go. Enjoy that nice condo for the weekend and then get out.

[–]DRMMR76 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not that I think anyone on TRP should be policing language, but be aware talking about owning women might draw the wrong kind of reddit attention.

But you're right. In the past, a woman left her family and became part of the man. Dowries, engagement, courting, asking the father's permission, the father giving away the bride, taking of the man's last name, etc are all vestigial concepts from a time when a woman was removed from one man's family (the father) and taken into another man's family, her husband. That concept is gone. And without it, the essence of marriage is gone as well. Don't get married isn't just wise advice in the current legal climate, it's wise advice in the current cultural climate.

[–]always-be-closing 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

but be aware talking about owning women might draw the wrong kind of reddit attention.

So the fuck what?

Marriage, as traditionally practiced in a huge range of cultures was mutual ownership.

No other woman owned the man other than his wife, no other man owned the woman other than her husband.

Each was the other's only - - only sexual partner, only emotional confidant, only partner in making a home, only partner in raising and nurturing/providing for children.

We still have no semantic means of discussion interpersonal relationship without using possessives, gender aside.

"This is my car."

"She is my girlfriend."

Ella is mi novia

She is my girlfriend.

Which is your car?

Who is your girlfriend?

Cual es su auto?

Quien es su novia?

Это моя машина 'Eta moya maschina'

This is my car.

Это моя девушка. 'Eta moya deyvushka'

This is my girlfriend.

Какой ваш автомобиль? 'Kakov vash automobile?'

Кто твоя девушка? 'kto tvoya devushka'

ETC.

The entirety of Indo-European languages work like this.

And you know what? despite the personal possessives conjugating in the front "yAmi"/"umkAmi", "yAkho"/"umkhakho", it's the same in freaking Zulu.

Ya think it's a fucking coincidence human beings use things like possessives/genetive cases/other ownership indicating grammatical structures to talk about relationships?

instead of accusatives and datives and locatives?

"To me there is a wife", "about myself is a wife".

Like everyone in the civilization past of so many disparate societies just arbitrarily hit upon the sexism trigger of post-thirdwave feminists?

[–]103342 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

One personal tip I can give for those looking for a LTR is: You will have to be good at cold approach.

My personal experience is that, most girls that give too much IOI's or even worse that approach YOU somehow, will do the same thing with other guys.

A lot of guys start to improve themselfs and eventually hook up with girls like that. They are fun and all, but most of them are not LTR material in the least.

The one girl I actually approached more agressively, not really caring about IOIs, was my best relationship yet.

[–]musclebound92[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wrote a post about cold approach, and yes I completely agree with you.

[–]mrmeyhemn 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

unicorns? nope. LTR? nope. women are like restaurants, you might favor one but if you eat it enough you get sick of it. variety is the way to go. in todays SMP the LTR is dead, feminism and marriage v2.0 killed it.

[–]mtlbrn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unicorns do exist.

For the time being before they change their mind.

She might be your ' everything ' but you'll never be her total universe.

Why? Because someone will always offer her something else. And that day when you're not around or you pissed her off blatantly hoping for that steamy hot make up sex, chances are she rode BetaMax the orbitter's cock before sucking yours and forget to tell you only two weeks later.

Men are faithful to themselves. Men can focus down on a woman, as we have the ability to rationalize " goals and prizes ".

I've never heard of a woman like this if society didn't tell her to ( religious groups, oldschool social circles, etc. ) As it stands, society tells women that the world is theirs and whatever the fuck she wants is owed to her.

[–]wearnocrowns 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

How can this keep being up on the front page? What exactly did you contribute? Where is a real-life story backing up what you claim?

You’re laying down a hotchpotch made up in your fantasy. There’s no energy, no take-away, basically no value in it.

What I care about is real life. Theories, speculations and fantasy are a waste of time – yours as you’re writing it and ours as we’re reading it. You are the only person who should reread your post and contemplate on what’s wrong here. You’ve got a long, long way to go ahead of you until you heal your current state of mind.

Saying out loud what your problem is could make it harder for you to accept it that’s why I would rather refrain from that. So just a hint: Stay around, read, soak in. Wake up, get real and stop pondering over bullshit. There’s not much you can give to others by now. Not yet. Come back once you have some useful lessons learned. I mean it in a good way.

[–]musclebound92[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The real life story backing what I claim is literally in the post...

[–]w_t__ 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or if you are Islam just go ahead and die and you get 72 of those unicorns lmao.

[–]siea01 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree with virgins being good LTR material.

I fucked girls that had only 1 sexual partner and they wanted to check "how does it feel with someone else",even tho they were planning on marrying their boyfriends and shit.

Id say look for a low n-count with past LTR but not a virgin,she will try to check how does another dick feel sooner or later.

[–]TheOuterRing 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I argue that virginity is not the key.

Finding a woman who has a history of LTRs is. Now that means not 10 men...but the true 1-3 guys, depending on her age, and were all serious boyfriends with serious intentions. Virginity doesn't mean much. Sure it might help bind a woman to man a little more, but it is not, at all, what makes her stay. That is in the man's hands, and in the personality of the woman - not her V card. However, a woman who rides the CC is to be avoided, because it suggests her personality is not suitable for LTR. And those that only practice LTRs is a great solution. All healthy relationships I know of where a happy marriage is achieved, the women were always about LTRs, and some were not virgins beforehand. But they also had a very low 1-3 dude count.

And my opinion on why the unicorn has been lost to so many - feminism. Women were born and raised in a world where whining about everything would get you everything. They made all the men beta, and when they married those men, they were repulsed by their creation (but had no idea it was them that created this)

I am a firm believer than unicorns can exist again - we just have to educate our women in Red Pill. Re-organize their thoughts to the old fashioned way of life. As my female peers get older, the concept of working for a living is less appealing to most, and the idea of supporting a man becomes more appealing. It's because women are naturally inclined to want this. It goes back to caveman years.

Once third wave feminism is tackled, destroyed, and locked away as a horrible thing we shall not repeat again, then you will see the resurgence of women worth marrying. It's happening now. Red Pill women does a good job at tackling this. Women will always be AWALT. But you can tone that down from feminazi, to just being more emotional than men, and thus are prone to playing her hamster every now and again. Which is much better than psycho AWALT feminazis. Even if you don't want LTR, it would make spinning plates easier if women respected men like they used to. And cultures change - which means this can very well come back.

But in selecting a mate, I don't think the virgin card is one she needs to have. She totally can, but it's not necessary. Her track record should speak more than anything. And those are easy to prove just by interacting with family/friends. If she had only a few LTRs, everyone will know. If she had commitment issues, again, many will know. I understand your statement of the V card, but I think it is more based on your own experience and trying to find an answer with very limited resources since you only experienced it once - and she happened to be a virgin. You say she is now a good partner in her other relationship. That means the V card was not essential, but how she treated herself in regards to withholding access to her sexuality unless a serious relationship was being proffered up, is what is essential.

So maybe a virgin mindset where treating sex a special gift is more appropriate. But I can tell you, for sure, that literally being a virgin will not make or break a relationship. If that chick wants to ride the CC, she'll ride it. Virgin or not. All CC enthusiasts were once virgins too.

[–]musclebound92[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Perhaps I needed to go further in depth in what I believe. A young woman that is groomed by a good young man who has been raised well by a good mother and father that also takes her virginity stands the chance to have very high potential. I groomed mine. The same way my father groomed my mother. He took her, broken from her poor and sad upbringing, and raised her, groomed her, and then took her virginity. Of course she has the potential to go awry, she's fucking human. We all have the capability to do terrible shit. We just spend our entire lives trying to steer away from such behavior. I see your point, and agree with a lot of what you say. But I also have seen that many women with multiple LTR's under their belt, at a young age, are some of the poorest candidates FOR ME. They seem very robotic, and that isn't something I'm attracted to. The fact that anyone has the potential to be that important to them means that they have a hole that needs to be filled inside of them, and they seem to be able to find partners very easily to fill that hole, no pun intended. This is just what I have noticed in my social circle with these types of women. I believe a virgin mindset is definitely one of the key points in what you said. Because that is something you hardly ever see today. Some girls I have watched have that up until their 20's, but all their friends are sluts and sooner or later they join the CC. I am very experienced. I have slept with a lot of women. And this is what I have noticed thus far. It's just my observation

[–]Suravira -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Didn't realise that I had to tell someone unicorns don't exist, well at least someone who isn't a five year old girl. Once again PSA don't get married. While virginity is somewhat important to the state of an LTR you yourself and frame are more important, plenty of virgins cheat especially when everyone else is telling them they have to sample the dating market while they can (Read: ride the cock carousel), plenty of girls with high partner counts can make good LTRs.

[–]EuronPacificus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks captain... Lets take your bad grammar, incoherence and "writing nothing" aside, we all know that mate. Virginity is the highest commodity in Western civilisation.

[–]always-be-closing 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

> post about unicorns
> was able to get sex without a requirement of marital commitment
> is no longer in a relationship with her
> she's in a relationship with some other guy who isn't getting a virgin
> post is explaining that there are unicorns, extolls virginity
> claims girl in post is such an example and unicorns really do exist

dohohoho

[–]Retro93 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's weird when you realize how real the women are wonderful effect is. I had the same train of thought as OP about an ex.

My rational conclusion? The pussy was damn good and I was seeing things in her character that weren't actually there, if only to distract myself from the fact that she only had one good trait about herself.

[–]musclebound92[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've considered this before but don't believe it to be the case. I've slept with a lot of women and had "damn good pussy" a number of times.

[–]sir_wankalot_here -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This article is BS because of this premise.

However what distinguishes us (or so we believe) from animals, is our soul. Or whatever you wish to call it.

Social evolution can explain why humans (and other higher animals to some degree) have a soul or exhibit what appears to be ultraistic behaviour. A dog running into a house to save its puppies can be explained by evolution.

At the end of the day, TRP is nothing more then social/genetic evolution for the average man.

For that matter, your invisible guy in the sky can be explained by social evolution.