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[–]fiszu3000Distinguished Master Guardian 3ポイント4ポイント  (33子コメント)

now I am waiting for a skin with a nazi eagle. same shit as this

[–]redUxNLThe Global Elite 6ポイント7ポイント  (22子コメント)

But because society didn't taught us that the USSR was as bad as Nazi germany; the nazi eagle is offensive, but the Russian symbols from that time arent..

[–]SpecteronSilver I 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

History is written by the victors.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II -2ポイント-1ポイント  (20子コメント)

USSR as bad as nazi germany!? what the !? are you guys kidding me atm?!

Stalin was a tyrant, but to declare USSR as bad as nazi germany is disgusting! I might aswell pull the same shit with US saying bombing of Iraq, vietnam, overthrowing Iran.

Man thats some strong accusations you guys are throwing.

[–]manofmonkey 4ポイント5ポイント  (16子コメント)

I mean they might not be exactly the same but the death count because of Stalin is estimated to be several million which is comparable to Hitler. His may not have been because of genocide but the man was still insane and had people locked up/murdered because he felt like it.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

I just don't know how to explain to you guys, because I feel like you all have locked onto the opinion that Soviet Union was this evil opponent in the cold war.

So what about all the common people of soviet who wasn't part of NKVD who carried out most of the atrocities? ~29.000.000 people of USSR gave their life for their country and the allied countries during WWII.

I think labelling USSR just as bad as Nazi Germany is disrespecting all these lives.

and looking away from Stalin for a moment, despite all the good thing USSR contributed to the world from 50-92 they are deemed just as bad as Nazi Germany?!

Sry but I don't have time to write long reply because I feel like this respond deserve so much more depth, but I cannot write that out. You can say a lot of things about USSR, both bad and good, but you just cannot say USSR was just like Nazi Germany.

[–]fiszu3000Distinguished Master Guardian [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

dont forget that Russians attacked Poland jus a few days after germans during WW2 and their "sacrifice" in the war with Hitler was not just heroic. They occupied poland and half of germany for over 40 years after the war literally destroying what Hitler did not manege to destroy. Stalin has a higher body count than hitler as well.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes you're right, poland never got it's deserved liberation.

Also I don't think you can really say who is worse on the "body kill" - it's not a score, there is so much more to it. Both Hitler and Stalin were monsters who ruled both their nations with an iron grip.

[–]FrohlyTeam Kinguin Fan [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Russian spotted.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Im not russian Im danish you prick. And as of a matter of fact I don't have anything against Americans, I just think many of you are fast on the trigger to label others, without thinking twice about it.

[–]zamwadMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

As a Polak, I would rather be a german POW then a Russian POW. Russians were cunts

[–]ICrazySoloGold Nova I [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i dont know gulag or concentration camp, its a tough choice. prolly bigger chance of a quick death in Nazi camp tho.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I'm not going to defend Soviets actions toward Poland and Katyn will always be a disgrace to Soviet history, but I still want to point this out;

-Nazi Germany and Soviet agreed to invade Poland

-NKVD murdered 22.000 intellects polish people.

-Nazi Germany murdered 2.900.000 polish jews.

Would you still claim USSR was worse toward your people, or do you dismiss the jewish polaks as part of your people?

[–]zamwadMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I make my decision based on what USSR has done in WW2, especially to its own people.

[–]anticommon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I just know Russia lied to Poland when they were supposed to give them a hand in Warsaw and then decided to stall Polish land and fuck them over in general.

[–]janek2The Global Elite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Have you forgotten about Stalin's murders? He ordered to murder his good commanders for being a "enemy to the nation". Or he ordered to executed his member of family. Besides NKVD murdered more people not only our Polish officers but their own soldiers. You remember the famous propaganda poster saying: "No step back". This is related to order nr. 227 executed by Stalin himself. He ordered that if any Soviet soldier decides to go back he'll be shot immediately. But still today I hate Russians for what they did to Poland 16 days later after beginning of WW II. Germany officially banned Nazism and Fascism but in Russia even today you have Communist Parties in politics.

Besides USSR always tried to claim our territories, not even communists even Russia itself for many centuries tried to claim our territories. They have managed to do it from 1772 to 1795. For over 123 years we've been an slaves to Germany Empire, Austrian Empire and Russian Empire. After sevreal revolutions in Russia and later becoming Communist, they attacked us again in 1919. However we managed to beat over 2 millions of soldiers during Battle of Warsaw.

Anyway, that's my opinion I can't argue with your opinion. However what I can argue with is about mainly history. If you think Nazis where worse that's okay.

Jesus... first long post on reddit by me xD.

[–]Dam_KidsSupreme Master First Class [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I just think many of you are fast on the trigger to label others, without thinking twice about it.

wew lad

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

His may not have been because of genocide but the man was still insane and had people locked up/murdered because he felt like it.

If I brought up how US have private prisons, arrest people for many years like petty crimes for drug use, the fact that 400 people in US has the same amount of wealth as the bottom 150.000.000 of US.

It may not be outright murder like Stalin but I think this is just as much a crime toward your own people and nation.

[–]manofmonkey [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Im not saying the USA is any bastion of greatness and equality. It was a response to someone that said Russia wasnt comparable to Hitlers Germany. Having income inequality and high prison rates are different from having close to 2 million people ordered to be assassinated and then having millions more put in the Gulag. Stalin era Russia wasn't exactly a great place to be a citizen with an opinion. The USA also did crazy shit with internment camps and other things but they arent comparable to Hitler/Stalin era atrocities.

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stalin era Russia wasn't exactly a great place to be a citizen with an opinion.

I never claimed this. But this started out with "USSR = Nazi Germany" not with "Stalin Run Government = Nazi Germany"

Also I view the Stalin Era as a crime against the people and just as I said, while USA isn't exactly ordering secret mass killings, I'd say the massive wealth gap that the politics allow and low taxes for rich people along with your horrendous prison system, would also list as a crime toward the people.

(I'm not trying to do be anti-US, I just think it's a shame that such a pride nation as US, have sunken to these lows.)

[–]redUxNLThe Global Elite [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Mate open some fucking history books before declaring to the world how naive you are. Did you know that USSR killed between 3 to 6 million (!) of their own people. Pure genocide like Nazi germany. Maybe not fueled by racism, but does that make it less bad? Multiple millions of people have died under the hands of Stalin, Lenin, etc.

Nazi Germany and USSR were both undeniably fucking bad

[–]austinweiss13Master Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You're right, it's wrong to say they were as bad as Nazi Germany. They were in fact far worse and caused much more deaths.

[–]Greenhorn24Legendary Eagle 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you mean the swastica? Because the eagle is not necessarily a nazi symbol...

[–]Greenhorn24Legendary Eagle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

But yes, let's keep politics separated from this game.

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[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Are you literally comparing soviet union with the nazi regime? @$!!. Yes Stalin was evil tyrant, but he does not define the entire period of the soviet union!

I can't believe you compared nazi germany who wanted to exterminate entire people with soviet union, @$!!.

US and bombing of bagdad ?! 600k died, I can play this game aswell.

[–]anticommon [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yo Stallin only killed 49 million people

[–]NYXLHoXPMaster Guardian II [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's estimated to be around 20-40 million, and please point out where I have defended this monster?

All I'm trying to say, Soviet is not the same as Nazi Germany. far from.

[–]ArtisanZeroLegendary Eagle 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh yes please, so we can finally have our Ghetto Blaster :)

[–]Cunnilingus123Master Guardian II 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always thought the Wasteland Rebel was a Ghetto Blaster.

Wait a minute! To the steam market i go, name tags ho!

[–]le_BadLegendary Eagle Master 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, just make the ump with a Iron Cross. As a German, i would approve.