Violent neighbors

WeylandTheDwarf · 3時間前

As long as your neighborhood is one that doesn't call the police and refuse to talk to police, your neighborhood will be prime real estate for these sorts of individuals. Call the cops early, call them often, and give thorough details. If this is the norm in your neighborhood, these sorts of people won't want to live there.

piratepuppy1 · 5時間前

All the things you don't give a shit about seem pretty neighborly to me. The cameras and security system can't hurt, and may prove useful eventually. This is a police matter. Whether you're in a city or rural area, if you, the next door neighbor, and the store owner call in each and every time there is a disturbance, to say nothing of gunfire, they will be hard pressed to ignore you, and this will deflect attention from you specifically being known as the narc. I'd keep the landlord advised too, but if the rent is being paid, he has self interest involved and may not care as much. Keep calling DSS. This should be a situation which is intolerable to them. If the police don't respond/actively work to remedy this, go to your local alderman/councilman/city manager or whomever to alert them to this dangerous situation. If none of them step up, go to the largest local media outlet and see if they have any interest. Good luck.

Junkmans1 · 3時間前

I've never called the cops on one of these parties because you just don't do that here, and as long as they stay on their side of the street, I don't really care.

Aparently you do care and should be calling the cops.

slambur · 1時間前

I'm surprised the landlord doesn't care about the bullet holes in their newly renovated house?

lookyloolurker · 5時間前

I think the easiest thing you can do (tho not easy) is to move. You only rent. Thankfully you don't own this home so its not a hassle to get rid of the house. I would consider moving to a safer neighborhood, this is a laundry list of issues that you wont be able to fix.

Jen16226 · 2時間前

You might want to check into the ordinances of your town and see if there is anything on the books regarding a landlord-tenant ordinance. Where I live, there is a law where the landlord can be fined if the tenant is cited for disruptive behavior more than 3 times in a 12 month period. This is helping landlords to evict unsavory tenants as well as help the neighbors.

Mnementh2230 · 1時間前

Move. Just get out.

MidnightFaune · 1時間前

Not a lawyer - I get why people are telling the OP to call the police every time there is a disturbance, but in a situation like this, I personally don't feel it's in the OP's best interest due to safety. I know I would be afraid of being hurt myself for publicly trying to stop the neighbors (who seem to be drug dealers or worse). In my opinion, you did good to call about the children living in the home. This seems to be a really bad situation and someone pointed out that moving would be a good idea for you. I agree, start looking for a new place asap. You may not be able to control what happens with your neighbors, but you have control over what happens to you in this case. It is a hassle for you, but getting shot while walking your dog because of a drive by; having your house broken into and being robbed or worse; simply dealing with the constant parties... what's worse... moving or the possibility of terrible things happening to you or your roommate/so?

Edited: Just a thought, lawyers please correct/expand on this if there is anything to it: Would OP's and other concerned neighbors landlords care to stop this at all? If they start loosing renters on this street and are unable to rent... what could/would they do to stop this, if anything at all? My thought process on this is if OP and neighbors each talked to their landlords, making them aware of the situation and the thoughts of leaving (following the lease agreement), would they help in any way? Is there anything they could do at all? Would they even care? I'm sure this is a long shot, but thought it wouldn't hurt to ask.

erinem2003 · 1時間前

If the gunfire stories are true, you're lucky you haven't been killed yet. Who knows when or if you will ever be able to get these people out of the neighborhood, it sounds unlikely. In the meantime, I wouldn't sit around with bullets whizzing past my head and house going, "I sure hope those neighbors move soon". I would have moved myself the next day! You better get yourself out of there and fast.

curaneal · 26分前

I've never called the cops on one of these parties because you just don't do that here, and as long as they stay on their side of the street, I don't really care.

Here's your problem. As much as the world is down on cops right now, for reasons legitimate and illegitimate, they are your recourse.

I had the same problem, an enmeshed drug house with 20 people living in it that had been around for twelve years when I moved in. I called the cops every day, for every single damned thing I could, worked with the community relations officers, and what do you know? Here I am with a quiet house, a neighborhood that thanks me, and no more people screaming in the middle of the night and stealing my shit. And now the neighbors come out during the day. I see kids. I see people hanging around outside. I don't see people staggering in the street out of their brain challenging cars to fistfights. Go figure.

As much as I am loathe to shame, if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Almost no one has a problem with people who do drugs in their own home, myself included, but this isn't that. This is violence and crime with kids involved, and you're standing by watching it for fear of violating someone's privacy. They've grossly invaded yours, with violence and drugs. And your neighbors'. Consider that for a moment.

The only real excuse I see that you have is the fact that you fear retribution if they see it was you. I had the same fear. I deal with it every day, because they did threaten me when they found out I was the one calling the cops. But guess what? A life lived in fear is not a life worth living. Never has been, never will be. And though it might be hard to see from where you are, it's much easier to live with the astronomically small chance they'll take retribution, given that the cops would immediately know who did it, vs. the pleasant life I live now compared to a year ago. You can have that too. And your neighbors. And the entire area, which will be affected by their wide circle of bullshit.

Engage your local police force, and if they refuse to engage with your problem, get the hell out. But I think it's foolish to sit and watch, with all due respect.

awhq · 12分前

You need to move asap.

You cannot force these people out and you can't out-crazy crazy.

I lived in a neighborhood like this. The next door neighbors were Section 8 and drug dealers. We had people banging on our windows at 3am looking to buy drugs, gunfire at all hours of the day and night, people being beat up in broad daylight, etc.

I called the police. And called them. And called them. I took pictures from inside my house of drug deals going down. I took pictures of people being beaten. My father-in-law, who had contributed to the mayor's campaign, called the mayor.

No fucks were given and nothing changed.

We sold at a loss and got the hell out of there.

We found out 3 years later that the entire police department and the mayor were on the take. Go figure.

Get out and don't look back.

valleycupcake · 11分前

I had clients with a similar situation, but they were owners, and the realtor who sold them the house also held undisclosed partial ownership in the property through a trust and had reason to know of the problem, so we ended up going after the realtor to just void the sale and get them out of the house. We looked into other options for them, too, and they could have stuck it out and pursued these options if it wasn't for the wife's pregnancy.

Police reports can be obtained through local sunshine acts (like the FOIA). This process takes longer than the regular request process, but it can be done.

Also, you may consider taking the complaint directly to the DIstrict Attorney in your county. They will be very interested to know about drug dealing with minors around.

Third, check into your city's municipal codes (often available online; if not, then at City Hall) for nuisance abatement procedures. Their activities on the property have arguably constituted a nuisance and you might be able to get rid of them that way.

Good luck!

Aedeus · 2015-09-01T18:29:49+00:00

buku drive by shootings

Dude, fucking move before you fall victim to some stupid shit and we see you on the news.

"OP catches stray bullet RIP"

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Violent neighbors

So I'm not sure if there's anything that I can do in this situation but I'd like to know if there are any steps I can take to get the neighbors across the street from me out of the neighborhood.

I've rented a house on my street for 2 years. When we moved in, the neighbors across the street from us in a duplex were an old lady and an old man. About six months ago, they were both evicted so the owner of the house could remodel. After the house was remodeled they raised the rent to about $200 over what duplexes are currently renting for in this neighborhood. The house stood empty for a while, then about 7-10 college age kids moved in to both sides of the duplex.

I am not a "nosy" neighbor. Where I live isn't the best area, we have our fair share of drunks running around and fist fights but for the most part people keep to themselves. There were a couple of red flags to begin with when these people moved in. To begin with, the day they moved in while I was out walking my dog, one of the guys comes up to me and asks where he can buy weed. I tell him I don't know (I do, if that's important, but I don't know this guy at all) then tells me he has some if I need any. I tell him I'll keep that in mind.

Next comes the parties. I don't really care if people have parties but they have one every single night. Between 20-30 people coming and going, drinking vodka out of the bottle in the front yard, smoking weed in the front yard, screaming in the front yard, speeding up and down the street. I've never called the cops on one of these parties because you just don't do that here, and as long as they stay on their side of the street, I don't really care.

Another thing that is concerning is that there are two babies in the house under the age of 2, and at least two of the people that live there and party there are in high school, as I see them getting on and off the school bus. I've also seen some kids from the local skatepark over there smoking weed who look to be in middle school.

We've also had people come up to us in our yard from across the street asking us for money, asking us for cigarettes, getting pissed when we tell them no. I'll give money to someone downtown if they ask. I will not give someone money who comes into my yard.

Next comes the violence. About two weeks after they moved in, one of my neighbors got shot on his front porch. I'm not sure if they were involved or not, I didn't think so at all in the beginning. The police said that it was a suicide and that may be true. However, I was outside at the time and know for certain that there were two gunshots from a small handgun when it happened. Most people who kill themselves don't need to shoot themselves twice, but I guess it could happen.

Then, about another week later, there was a fight at the store down the road, and the neighbors were involved, and a guy shot a gun into the air.

Then about three weeks ago, there was a drive by shooting directed at the neighbors house, two sets of seven shots. One person got hit, not killed. The police did come this time, walked around asking questions (nobody would talk) picking up shellcasing, and left. The neighbors had another party the next day.

Last saturday there was another drive by shooting directed at their house. This time it was between 30 - 40 shots, rapid fire. Apparently whoever was shooting lost control of the gun because one or possibly more of the bullets hit my next door neighbors house, which is about 10 feet away from my house. During this shooting the neighbors (who it was directed at) were having a party at the time and as soon as it happened and was over obviously everyone at the party who didn't live there left very quickly. The police showed up about five minutes later, the neighbors told the police that nobody was at the house except for them. Once again the police hung out for a bit, picked up shell casings, questioned people. This time my next door neighbor and my roommate did tell the police what they saw. The cops told my next door neighbor they were going to come back in the morning to try and find the bullets that hit his house, but they never did.

I do not give a shit if people want to drink and do drugs

I do not give a shit if people want to have parties.

I don't even give a shit if they want to sell drugs.

But I have a fucking problem with gun violence going on outside my front door.

These are the steps we've taken so far, and the results.

Called the landlord of the neighbors house. Was told that they can't do anything without a police report. We tried to get a copy of the police reports, and were told that the only person who could have access to the reports was the owner of the house. The police in this county are not required to send a report to the landlord. Called the landlord back, no response.

Called DSS, because of the babies in the house. Made an anonymous report so I'm not sure what the outcome will be of that.

My sister is giving me a set of 6 high dollar video cameras to put up around our house today, although I'm worried that it will draw attention to us, and I'm also worried they'll be destroyed.

She's also offered to give us an alarm system, not sure of the company, but basically it's one of those that tells you when the front door is open. I guess that's helpful although I don't really need an alarm to let me know if a bullet comes through the window. In the event of a robbery it could be useful.

We also have our own guns, but I'm not really willing to advertise it to anyone in the neighborhood since that makes it more likely for people to mess with us anyways, and they aren't really helpful in this situation either. If someone enters our home we can shoot them although I'd really rather not.

At this point, me, my so, my roommate, my next door neighbor, and the store owner down the street have come to the agreement that we have to get these people out of this neighborhood, we just aren't sure how to go about doing so. We've never had this kind of shit happen around here until they moved in. If there is anything else I can do please let me know.

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