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[–]barronflux -11ポイント-10ポイント  (20子コメント)

Even if one has an issue physically or chemically in the brain, you still have free will. You can smile.

[–]throwaway12312312316 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

You should get your own brain checked out. You're not right.

[–]Alacritous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, he isn't. Depressed people can still have moments of happiness or enjoyment. It's just their general tendency is to be depressed.

Clinical depression is not the same as just being depressed a lot.

source: Me. Diagnosed clinical major treatment resistant depression for over 10 years.

[–]barronflux -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

so your first instinct is to insult me? that's a really good response, immature indeed. also, nice throw away

[–]masochistmonkey -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

Are you really as two-dimensional as this cartoon?

[–]barronflux -2ポイント-1ポイント  (15子コメント)

are you really disagreeing that you physically cant smile?

[–]Kuurro 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You act like forcing a smile means jack shit, I smile all day at my shitty minimum wage job.

Is that what it means to be happy

[–]barronflux 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

if you carry a good attitude and you genuinely want to be happy yes

[–]ambergoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Some developmental disabilities, degenerative illnesses, and irreparable facial injuries can rob a person of the physical ability to smile. This has a bad effect on them socially because people don't smile back. Rarely being smiled at causes a person to lose hope and develop a negative attitude. This consequence is not a "choice" but a predictable side effect of their circumstances.

[–]barronflux -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

and in special cases like that I understand and a person living with that kind of disability I would think would find his/her own way of showing happiness.

[–]ambergoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Having seen cases on the non-hypothetical level, I can tell you that it usually doesn't work out that way. It is immensely difficult to get people to treat you as human if you have facial deformities. We are a lazy species, and incredibly reliant on easy visual feedback in social situations.

[–]barronflux 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand that part, that is where the truly great people do not care what you look like and treat them as they would anyone else come in.

[–]masochistmonkey 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

When you're dying inside, smiling feels like you've put on a plastic mask and it hurts even more because it's absolutely phony. How do you not know this?

[–]barronflux -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

your objective should be to combat the depression and overcome it, your end goal is to be happy no? http://evolutioncounseling.com/fake-it-until-you-feel-it/

[–]SouthBankSucked 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Fake it until you feel it

That is probably the worst advice.

I suggest people talk to their doctor and arrange a therapy consultation. Cognitive Behavioural Therapy in particular has a very promising success rate and other kinds are available.

"Pretending" you are fine can cause a number of secondary issues, like Anxiety and Agoraphobia, to pop up.

Claire Weekes' books helped me to understand my own mind, but a doctor will be able to help you the most.

[–]barronflux 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I respect your opinion, to each their own though. It worked for me, and I'm sure it has worked for many others. But yes, a doctor visit is ideal

[–]masochistmonkey 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That has got to be the worst idea I have ever heard. Faking it is really just making other people comfortable so they don't have to think about your problem.

[–]pm-me-your-coffeemug -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

What does smiling do to help? Yes, one can physically smile, however, it changes nothing.

Also, sadness is not necessarily a bad thing. Experiencing only one emotion is unhealthy, whether that be sadness or happiness.

[–]barronflux -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

if your goal is to be happy, you should strive for that. no matter what

[–]pm-me-your-coffeemug 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Putting a mask on does not change my emotional state. I understand that you are saying we should be positive, but I think there is something to say for seeking a balance between positivity and negativity.

I think we make the mistake of making happiness the goal. It also goes down to how you define happiness. Do you define happiness by contentment, or by having everything you want?

My goal isn't happiness, happiness is an emotion, and emotions come and go. I don't want my achievements to be temporary. While yes, I enjoy happiness, that will never be my goal as I view it as an empty goal.

My goal is joy, and I have joy. I can be experiencing any sort of emotion, but still have joy underneath. It's rather hard to explain what I mean by this. Happiness is more of an excitable thing, like a geyser. Joy is more of a bubbling spring.

I am very prone to depression and have gone through very dark times, but throughout those times, I've had joy, which presents itself as hope. Having hope of a better future, and knowledge that things will be alright. And this gives me joy. I can be sad, angry, happy, etc. but still have joy in my heart.

Articulating this is very hard, and I don't think I am conveying it very clearly, however, I hope this makes some sort of sense.

TL;DR- I strive for joy and peace as opposed to striving for an emotional state.