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[–]RadComedy 2865ポイント2866ポイント  (154子コメント)

reddit died with Aaron Schwartz

[–]bludstone 652ポイント653ポイント  (56子コメント)

This comment deserves more attention.

After Aaron died, everything went on full speed ahead down the spiral.

[–]Nick12506 61ポイント62ポイント  (3子コメント)

Remember, the internet is made up of people. If you see something on the internet, you can download it and save it. I have archives of data "4+TB's" worth of information that would have been deleted years ago relating to games that are barely being kept alive.

All it takes is 1 person to make a difference.

Relating to the internet, you can always host the data yourself. People have been doing it for 1000's of years when it comes to books, the only difference is that they could only carry 1 book with them easily. With a 1TB hard drive, you could carry centuries worth of information in your pocket.

[–]quicklypiggly 220ポイント221ポイント  (15子コメント)

There was significant distance between reddit and Aaron just a few months after they were bought. His death seems only symbolically linked, in my opinion.

[–]RDS 44ポイント45ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is so true :( I keep wanting to call out alexis on Twitter and ask him what his good friend aaron would think of the site now.

Aaron never would've let this happen.

[–]horizoner 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

Then do it

[–]Metki 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Whats his twittername? I'll do it

[–]horizoner 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno. You seemed like you had a plan and needed someone to tell you to pull the trigger

[–]chu2screwed 29ポイント30ポイント  (25子コメント)

Was he the previous CEO or something? What did he stand for or how'd he die or what?

[–]DronePuppet 187ポイント188ポイント  (24子コメント)

The Internet's Own Boy: The Story of Aaron Swartz

[–]Deathcrow 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obligatory video for everyone who doesn't get angry when watching:

Don't talk to the police

(Of course most of you already know this)

[–]obedthegreat 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Just watched this. Sincerest thank you for showing me it existed. What an amazing, sad story.

[–]munk_e_man 73ポイント74ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is a great documentary. I highly recommend it for anyone curious about it; really shows you how the states are run by scumbags.

[–]BlueOak777 126ポイント127ポイント  (23子コメント)

In truth, Reddit's death spiral began when the blackhat marketers discovered that they could make money off of posts/comments (so, years ago). A simple google search is pretty damming, and keep in mind there are THOUSANDS of blackhat sites just like this one.

https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=blackhatworld.com+reddit&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#q=site:blackhatworld.com+reddit

For example, upvote clubs made by blackhat marketers to push their links to the frontpage of a sub - http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/social-networking-sites/702681-new-reddit-upvote-club-skype.html

[–]TheRichness 87ポイント88ポイント  (14子コメント)

Holy fucking shit. These guys are assholes.

http://www.blackhatworld.com

Here is what one of the posters said about us: Reddit is a bunch of broke students with adblock on.

[–]BlueOak777 117ポイント118ポイント  (12子コメント)

I lurked there for a couple of years. I learned a shitton about SEO. 80% of BlackhatWorld are pretty decent people and are just looking to outsmart Google for better search rankings, some will go out of their way to help you....the other 20% would waterboard their own grandma for $2 in their PayPal.

100% of those people would game Reddit for a quick buck.

[–]713984265 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

BHW is like 90% scammers scamming scammers.

[–]BlueOak777 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would disagree. You find more knowledgeable people at BHW than most internet marketing forums and there is a sense of community. People genuinely help each other in most cases, even if it's just to stay off the literal "Shit List" of people never to trust (yes, it is an actual list).

What you're describing actually sounds more like the other big internet marketing forum, Warrior Forum. Again, some good advice and good people can be found but their "Warrior Special Offers" are a joke.

Essentially they are 99% crap made up by some newbie that doesn't know jack who copypasted an ebook and gave it a title like "Push Button Riches . How I Make $150,000 Per Month Doing - Almost - Nothing!!" that some other newbie copypasted a year ago from some other newbie who got it off a google search from a blogger who had absolutely no idea what they were talking about in the first place.

These people don't make $150k a decade, nevermind a month, but they sure will sell you a $37 ebook promising just that.

[–]kajunkennyg 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reddit is so easy to game though, I've sent quite a few comments and suggestions on how to stop these things to reddit admin, they have never replied. I just assume that they know what's going on and are allowing other people to game the system, so that when they do it, it makes it harder to tell it was connected to the admin.

[–]Skrong 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

the other 20% would waterboard their own grandma for $2 in their PayPal.

hahaha.

[–]the_popcorn_pisser 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

First time posting in this sub

upvote clubs

This shit happened ALL the time during the Digg 2.0 and 3.0 days. It's hilarious to believe that reddit ever had a system to avoid this in place. Hell, it happens blatantly in some meta-subs IRCs all the time.

[–]FuckVettel 149ポイント150ポイント  (33子コメント)

Romantic notion, but flawed and false.

Like Wikipedia, Reddit's own popularity and growth was it's own "demise." Starting around 2007/2008 when the US government really ramped up it's information warfare campaigns on the public Internet is when shit started to go down. Any site as popular as Reddit is going to be hotspot of attention for information operations. Think JTRIG for example, operation earnest voice, etc.

These days the front page of Reddit is just a 24-7 propaganda engine and subreddits are run like the fascist shitholes that they are. Fine, who cares about the subreddits? Everyone with their eyes open knows /⁣r/⁣netsec is run by NSA sympathizers. Whatever, fuck it. One thing to remember is that the agents and shills are really just cheerleaders.. it's the masses of useful idiots who really amplify them. Without a user base this website, like all other social media including Wikipedia, is just an empty shell. It's the user base that makes these sites what they are.

These days everything on the Internet is touched by information warfare and those in power are more emboldened and arrogant than ever. The enemies making advances? Have one of your cells stage a terrorist attack.. then coordinate that with electronic warfare, including information warfare, efforts. It's all coordinated now. Kinetic attacks coordinated with electronic and information warfare. You got an agent on standby waiting to make the post as soon as it happen.. Then the army of sock puppets to get the ball rolling. Once that happens, the useful idiots take over and let the data mining begin.

[–]rudieboy 77ポイント78ポイント  (13子コメント)

Reddit got big when Digg screwed up their site.

[–]WhlskeyDrunk 45ポイント46ポイント  (11子コメント)

People just go to smaller subs now bc alot harder to censor and input is more valued.

[–]cavalierau 110ポイント111ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yup. Smaller subs are still enjoyable.

IAmA is now used only to sell something a celebrity is doing. Half the time the celebrity is barely participating.

askreddit is all horny teenagers and has become more useless than yahoo answers.

I only just checked what the current defaults are, since I no longer sub to any of them (except videos), apparently TwoXChromosomes is a default sub now? Christ. Thanks Ellen Pao. Equality does not = making a women's sub a default without also making a men's sub a default.

[–]escapefromdigg 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

One thing to remember is that the agents and shills are really just cheerleaders.. it's the masses of useful idiots who really amplify them.

Ah, this is the best way of putting this.

[–]CRODAPDX 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

True fact; remember the propaganda post yesterday? iSIS meat grinder. In that article it said that the U.S. Runs propaganda campaigns every day in the Middle East. Like putting out new pamphlets. Said that it speaks to the "softer side" of the conflict.

Then the article says it has used 1 billion dollars on paper pamphlet propaganda. I guess my point is...dis shit cray

[–]TempyTHEGatoR 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shit, you about to open a huge can of worms... but yea reddit is at dead as digg. hopefully soon will have something that self regulates with human input.

[–]Sovietkitten 17ポイント18ポイント  (11子コメント)

fuck I hate this why does it have to be true?

[–]thegr8rambino13 11ポイント12ポイント  (10子コメント)

me too, it really angers me how quickly people have infiltrated reddit. but don't let the hate block you from thinking clearly. i used to ragequit after i read conspiracy theories, thinking i could take on all these evil people myself. but instead of just fuming, try thinking rationally like this: can we stop this? if so, what can be done to reverse, or at least mitigate this? what are our options? what kind of strategies can we implement to defeat or at least spread awareness of this?

[–]PostNationalism 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

will reddit shadowban us for discussing these topics?

[–]why_compromise 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

open your profile in incognito mode to check. I have recently been an ass so If i got shadowbanned for something I would assume that instead of this. /r/Conspiracy is a joke to reddit. I would guess no one would think high enough of this place to start shadow banning.

[–]Yserbius 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

When he died he hadn't had anything to do with reddit for a number of years. IIRC, he was hired to help with the programming, but left after some disagreements with Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian.

[–]cowboyhaze 251ポイント252ポイント  (43子コメント)

There are moderators that control like 150 subreddits. These are supposedly not admins but it is super sketchy. http://www.np.reddit.com/r/dealsreddit A couple mods in particular you might find there...

I have seen some of these mods do coordinated takeovers of subreddits with inactive mods through /r/redditrequest. How does one even have time to moderate more than like 10 subreddits?

[–]walkingtheriver 200ポイント201ポイント  (12子コメント)

How does one even have time to moderate more than like 10 subreddits?

Because it's their jobs and they get paid for it. Absolutely no doubt about it - who in their right mind would spend all their free time doing such a menial task, and not get paid? They 100% are on salary.

[–]Random_Object 32ポイント33ポイント  (9子コメント)

Don't be so sure. There are MMO players who put in full time (or more) hours doing tedious, boring shit in a game they pay to play.

[–]walkingtheriver 51ポイント52ポイント  (2子コメント)

I wouldn't compare that at all. It's a videogame and they get rewarded with phat loot at the end of their boring/tedious grind. These mods get nothing at all - except for that salary.

[–]2b2s2f2g 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes them feel good. Having that "power" is like a drug to them.

[–]bananapeel 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are also MMO players that get paid full time, who work for the NSA.

[–]freaky88 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

WHAT? Was this sarcasm? get paid to do what, play?

[–]bananapeel 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

No this was not sarcasm. It was revealed a couple of months ago that they have paid players on staff. They are "looking for terrorist cells" domestically online. They play games all day. That's their job.

[–]Stonephone 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am in the wrong business.

[–]TomWarden 51ポイント52ポイント  (13子コメント)

There are mods with a lot more than 150 subs. I saw one with over 500 the other day.

/u/xvvhiteboy

[–]cowboyhaze 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

There needs to be a limit on how many subs you can mod. Anything over like 20 to me feels like a power grab.

[–]Baderkadonk 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

They would just create more accounts

[–]slyweazal 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

Or how about /r/GMOMyths?

They search reddit for GMO/Monsanto threads and vote brigade them.

Look at the mod's comment history.

[–]funknut 104ポイント105ポイント  (14子コメント)

I don't have enough personal attachment to reddit to feel strongly about this stuff, but it has definitely changed my perspective of what I once viewed as an open platform where everyone had equal opportunity with security measures that did pretty well to keep out the cruft. Most of that is out the window now, but the one thing that really bugs me after all these years is that the community (read "hivemind") has the power to effectively mute people within a subreddit ("you must wait to post") in downvoting comments to below a karma threshold that throws the spam filter. This must have seemed like a great idea at one point, and I admit it sounds intriguing, but with the mob mentality around here it only results in strengthening the hivemind effect, with valid, dissenting all but vanishing from the discussion, generally weighted to the bottom out of visibility, or collapsed/invisible. I personally come to reddit to learn, and I often have to swap my sort to "controversial" and back just to find the information I'm looking for, which is rarely pursuit of confirmation of my own bias, but more often seeking what often goes unsaid or to gain a more objective view on a matter. It's nice that we have tools to conduct this type of browsing, but the comment throttling feature has to stop. Maybe they could reserve it for reported comments, or something.

[–]feedmefeces 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't really understand why anyone here is surprised by any of this. All reddit's servers take a ton of money to run, and those little ads in the corner just don't bring in the big money that people assume they do. To see the same clips from the same TV shows being spammed all over the front page over and over again, to see the same product placements and ad campaigns being regurgitated over and over and not assume that money is changing hands here is utterly naive. Reddit is a business, and people need to think a bit more critically about the content they are consuming here. It utterly obviously hasn't been a pure 'meritocracy' in quite a while.

[–]un1ty 258ポイント259ポイント  (48子コメント)

Nice post, but a waste. McReddit is unrecoverable. Its done - finito - charred and burned. They won and they got a biased, synthetic, manipulated, viral ad platform that people still think is organic, open, and honest.

Nope.

I wonder how much those bastards (like bipolarbear and his ilk) actually helped to bring about these changes thanks to all the bullshit. Almost like the agenda was to break it so they can 'fix' it to their standards...

[–]loki7714 22ポイント23ポイント  (31子コメント)

Alternatives?

[–]un1ty 41ポイント42ポイント  (20子コメント)

TBH, no idea.

There are reddit-clones like Voat which have potential, but have the same foundational loopholes that allowed what happened to reddit to recur. Its the anonymity factor: anyone can create one or multiple accounts, inevitably leading to bots, which can be used to misinform, disinform, sway opinion, stifle conversation, and so forth. I wouldn't want to get rid of anonymity as this is what makes it so attractive (otherwise its just facebook).

I don't know...

[–]TheCastle 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

So what needs to happen right now is we need a list both over arching and highly technical that would be more ideal.

One thing that strikes me about /r/conspiracy is that most people here are stuck in a retroactive mindset. But being able to use information available to spot patterns and accurate predict what will happen and how to prevent it would bring actual value to a place like this.

Well anyway, not to get side tracked. I want to see a big detailed list of how a next generation aggregator should function. Which is the first steps toward making it happen.

[–]un1ty 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

One thing that strikes me about /r/conspiracy is that most people here are stuck in a retroactive mindset. But being able to use information available to spot patterns and accurate predict what will happen and how to prevent it would bring actual value to a place like this.

Meta-cognition is a sign of intelligence, the kind you get with critical thinking. This sub seems to still have a large amount of honestly inquisitive people - but is certainly not immune from the McReddit curse.

[–]TheCastle 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The best thing for people of /r/conspiracy to do would be to start doing more future predictions as well as list the weaknesses of current technology.

I would love to know who the next president will be based on how much walmart wants him/her to be. I would also find it incredibly entertaining to see what the CIA is going to cause next long before it happens. If predictions like this can be accurate enough it would be entertaining!

Not only that but knowing and learning how to make conspiracies more costly to do on modern technology would be super useful! All forms of leadership should hold the weight of forced transparency.

[–]Hoodwink 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can take a heavy swing at most of it by taking a book out of SomethingAwful forums and have users pay for accounts (I think it's $5 or $10?).

It won't get rid of shill mods and manipulation of the rules from the site owners, but it will get rid of a lot of spammers and disinformation. Unless, of course, it becomes corrupted from within... then you're hopeless.

It may even strengthen incorruptibility because users will be providing the $$$ and not advertisers.

[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The current crop of facists ruining reddit come from SA, by way of digg. A forum that excludes people breeds superiority among it's users.

[–]ModsAreCunts 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just take the reddit source code, strip out the crap you don't like, and re-launch as Reddit without censorship.

[–]TheCastle 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need more than that. Gaining an audience these days is an extremely huge topic by itself and probably has a lot of the same problems due to aggregator disfunctionality.

[–]za72 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which license is it released under?

[–]AbleWyattMann 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

8chan. 4chan was handed over to SJWs by moot.

[–]double_ace_rimmer 26ポイント27ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yea it's getting a bit shit round here now a days.

[–]un1ty 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, I mean, obviously we still participate. I just don't get surprised or hurt when something is obviously censored or brigaded - its business as usual TBH. It sucks, but the sooner we accept that McReddit is not ours, is not able to be reverted back to the 'golden age,' and that there exists a large amount of 'official interference,' the better off we can be as the posts here will (hopefully) remain intact.

[–]za72 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Kinda like voting TBH, your choice is shit platter A or shit platter B... now go vote and talk about which shit is shitter than the other shit, meanwhile we get an illusion of debate and what not... what a fucking waste of time

[–]djrocksteady 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

The next step forward is a reddit like system that automates moderating through randomized crowd sourcing to eliminate arbitrary power users. I would also like to see a limited number of upvotes per user and meta-moderation for the automod system.. That coupled with some kind of built in bitcoin tipping system and revenue sharing, I think you have a better mousetrap.

[–]JackBurtonsPaidDues 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It doesn't help that you find less and less intellectual comments on each post. You could watch a crazy animal video and have unidan explain it, or read an article on R/world news and here both sides of the story in the comments. Now it's popular opinion and people shooting for that really good joke.

[–]macmac360 388ポイント389ポイント  (32子コメント)

This is one of the best posts I've read here in a long time, thanks for taking the time to put this out for this sub to see.

[–]physicscat 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm glad I saw this. I have felt for a while that there was something different about Reddit. I would read about injustices around the world and it kept me informed. The American media filters so much. Reddit starting feeling filtered, too. There are a LOT of top posts from gaming subreddits. I don't mind, but it seems there a lot more and that other content is just not there anymore. I had subscribed to under eye...and noticed a change, so I unsubscribed.

I just don't like media manipulation. It's as if you cannot escape it anymore.

[–]MrMez 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

Isn't this exactly what some Snowden documents have showed? Atleast that the NSA work for manufacturing consent on the web?

Also: Whats the alternative? Is anybody gonna start using Voat immediately? How do we protect and give space to the open voices on the net, if all that happens when users change space is that space subsequently being invaded?

Ps. You opened my eyes man, i remember the more open times too but but i cant put a finger on WHEN it became like this, i guess thats the danger. Now that you explained it i understand whats new/weird about the voting system, i had noticed but couldn't put my finger on it

[–]ABC_AlwaysBeCoding 94ポイント95ポイント  (21子コメント)

I have some money, 18 years of development experience, and some of the same frustrations you do. I've also spent YEARS on online discussion sites. Want to start a "real" discussion site? We should talk. I love your energy.

[–]Iworkonspace 40ポイント41ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'd be interested as well actually. I have time, money, and am a competent programmer to put it mildly

EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that (like several others with the ability, no doubt) the idea has occurred to me before. But lately more than ever, it seems like Reddit no longer serves its original intended function as a free speech congregation zone.

[–]OneForty1 51ポイント52ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no money, no discernable skills of value, and not much time. But if you all create an unbiased, free-speech site, please let me know. I'd love to be a member of it!

[–]omega_point 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

Count on me for video production once the site is ready and you want to spread the word.

An example of my work from my YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQRp9Mup0w

[–]JackTheJot 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck it, I'm down to be a member.

[–]Snoopy_Hates_Germans 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem with "real" discussion sites is that you have no way to be truly open while remaining high-quality.

On the one hand, if you have selective membership, it will start to become a circlejerk-y, cliquey back-patting society as you exercise direct choice on who is able to join the conversation. The quality of conversation, overall level of knowledge on topics, and adherence to site rules will be much higher, but the overall group will stagnate, or else become a power struggle for site privileges and influence.

On the other hand, if you have an open membership model, the there's no need to worry about accusations of elitism, exclusivity or exclusion of any particular type of user. The topics will be fresher as more people contribute, and more topics will be started because you'll have users from more diverse backgrounds. The overall quality of conversation will be lower overall, however, and you'll have a much higher chance for trolls, griefers and flamers to pop up and cause a ruckus. You'll also have a higher userbase, which means mob mentality will be more prevalent; user bullying/brigading are considerations to take in this situation as well.

Making a social/discussion website is a fine undertaking, but it requires a very thorough planning for both format and implementation.

[–]dackots 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this ever gets off of the ground, let me know. I have no contributions, but I would love to know about any alternative to this site, especially one built solely to combat the editorializing on Reddit.

[–]prodigyx 60ポイント61ポイント  (12子コメント)

This is a great timeline. I try to mention as many of these things as I can remember when I am explaining to people how reddit was destroyed. Now I can just refer them to this thorough and detailed post.

[–][deleted] 41ポイント42ポイント  (6子コメント)

Do it, I encourage everyone to copy and paste the source code and post it everywhere all the time. Thats why I made it and try to update it every few months.

[–]thegr8rambino13 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

thank you so much! im glad it is on the top of the page now :D

[–]a_damn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yup. People are like "oh you just want to be a hipster and say you liked it before it was cool". Not at all - this place has legitimately changed for the worse while maintaining its cover for the masses. All good things...

[–]Nozame 118ポイント119ポイント  (14子コメント)

Clear concise and thorough. You have my upvote. From all appearances, it seems everything you said is is spot on.

[–]howdareyou 53ポイント54ポイント  (13子コメント)

Seriously, speaking of shills. /r/canada mods will now ban you if you call someone a shill but can't prove it.

It's just not worth it to speak up if the mods can decide what's enough proof.

[–]Nozame 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Understood. Thanks for the heads up!

[–]niczar 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

/r/france will ban you if they just think you didn't reply nicely enough to someone. You don't have to actually insult them, use bad words or anything, you just have to disagree sarcastically.

Of course that does not apply if you hold the appropriate opinion.

[–]34679 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you have a look at the Wiki page for the second most addicted city, it's the home of several major corporations including McDonalds, but the one most interesting here is Reed Elsevier, who is described in this (pdf) report from the US Senate titled "A Review of the Data Broker Industry: Collection, Use, and Sale of Consumer Data for Marketing Purposes" as one of five "well-established targeted marketing companies" that were investigated for the report. According to the same report, Reed Elsevier collects, uses, and sells data on millions of consumers.

[–]goonerhsmith 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was hoping someone noticed this. Not only that, it is a town of less than 8,000 people with a median home value of $837,000 and a median family income of $155,000.

[–]I_ama_Borat 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

The scary part about this all is every single person (when you type "how reddit was destroyed" in the search bar) absolutely ignores the severity of all of this and just make jokes. It's really bizarre. Not one of them tries to have an intelligent discussion but instead just mocks... So sad.

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    [–]wigwam2323 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'd throw Israel into the 'western' category as well.

    [–][deleted] 490ポイント491ポイント  (52子コメント)

    Immediate downvotes while in /new. Color me shocked.

    [–]Flytape 141ポイント142ポイント  (31子コメント)

    I agree with most of what you've said here.

    I've noticed that after many subs started filtering out brand new accounts where age<Xdays/months, suddenly I started seeing 3 year old accounts with 1 day of actual activity which started 1 day ago or hours ago. These accounts conveniently bypass all attempts to filter out instant trolls and throwaways, but more importantly these accounts are usually very focused on specific topics.

    [–]Renardthefox 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

    While I totally agree with you I can also say in fairness that I rarely post and mainly lurk

    [–]shadowofashadow 59ポイント60ポイント  (26子コメント)

    Wow that's pretty amazing that you noticed the trend. Also would indicate that people have sleeper accounts just waiting for when they're needed. (especially if the account is 3 years old and 'woke up' shortly after the new accounts were getting hit)

    [–][deleted] 189ポイント190ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I caught a user a few months ago. The account was a bot that automatically copied a comment from a different user in each thread, and then the bot posted it. I noticed it completely by coincidence and I figured it out because the bot would not copy capital letters, so the comments were always mimicked in all lowercase, even with proper nouns, etc...

    This account ran 24/7 and would get upvoted constantly even though the comment it copied was usually just a few down from it.

    By using this technique, I watched that account get +20K comment karma. But even more sinister, if you clicked on the account name, it was almost impossible to tell that the comment history was completely forged.

    So you could run a bunch of these bots, wait until they collected enough time and karma to look legit, then sell them. The new owner would begin to use them for corporate shilling or what have you, and anyone who tried to call them out would see months and months of seemingly legit comments that covered an entire range of topics. Comments that the account had not actually made, just copied.

    I used to regularly check in with the user of that bot, and it got to the point where we were even a little bit friendly with each other. I would usually ask questions like "Pretty brilliant system. How much are you going to sell this for?", etc... and I would get replies that implied the owner knew exactly what I was talking about.

    I don't know if they eventually got caught out, because I was constantly blowing up their spot. But one day I signed in and the account was gone. It was called "timewaitsforsome".

    I wonder how many of those bots are out there, slowly developing a real looking history.

    [–]snezima23 158ポイント159ポイント  (5子コメント)

    i caught a user a few months ago. the account was a bot that automatically copied a comment from a different user in each thread, and then the bot posted it. i noticed it completely by coincidence and i figured it out because the bot would not copy capital letters, so the comments were always mimicked in all lowercase, even with proper nouns, etc...

    this account ran 24/7 and would get upvoted constantly even though the comment it copied was usually just a few down from it. by using this technique, i watched that account get +20K comment karma. but even more sinister, if you clicked on the account name, it was almost impossible to tell that the comment history was completely forged.

    so you could run a bunch of these bots, wait until they collected enough time and karma to look legit, then sell them. The new owner would begin to use them for corporate shilling or what have you, and anyone who tried to call them out would see months and months of seemingly legit comments that covered an entire range of topics. Comments that the account had not actually made, just copied.

    i used to regularly check in with the user of that bot, and it got to the point where we were even a little bit friendly with each other. i would usually ask questions like "pretty brilliant system. how much are you going to sell this for?", etc... and i would get replies that implied the owner knew exactly what i was talking about.

    i don't know if they eventually got caught out, because I was constantly blowing up their spot. but one day I signed in and the account was gone. it was called "timewaitsforsome".

    i wonder how many of those bots are out there, slowly developing a real looking history.

    [–][deleted] 64ポイント65ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hahaha, nice.

    [–]in_the_airoplane 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The bot that I saw was much less sophisticated and I think someone from here caught it. All it would post would be the phrase, "nothing will make a difference," or "nothing will change" over and over. It would do this on topics related to politics, foreign policy, tech (like net neutrality and surveillance)... it was creepy.

    [–]Brannagain 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ha, oh fuck I got in an argument with that guy on bad_cop_no_donut. Did not realize it was a bot...

    [–]shadowofashadow 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've seen those bots myself and I wondered what the point was. Now I know.

    [–]Vetersova 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm pretty sure I know that bot....

    [–]Flytape 50ポイント51ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I actually suspect that the accounts are created "1 day ago" and the creation date artificially rolled back 3 years by someone.

    [–]shadowofashadow 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Damn, that's a scary thought. I always figured this kind of manipulation was happening 'around' the rules of Reddit through loopholes and the cleverness of profit seeking entities.

    If what you're saying happens that's a whole other level of corruption though.

    [–]ersu99 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    think about this, why is google better at indexing reddit then reddit's own search engine. I'm talking simply about "exact word matching" the simplest of search tools. Any database built in search feature would be better then the current search in reddit but it's crap compared to google even for exact word matching.

    [–]Misio 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reddit search had always always been shit.

    [–]iki_balam 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

    it makes sense. i've seen a lot of what OP is saying. think about this. Reddit describes itself an internet aggregator. hahaha! no, it is a generator, it is where stuff happens on the internet and that 'stuff' get disseminated. it is so much easier to start at the headwaters than manage the river downstream

    [–]ratchetthunderstud 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's a conversation taking place on servers controlled by the parent company, I'm sure they have access to what's necessary to change the vote count, account age, etc.

    [–]Akareyon 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't claim to know reddit's software, but from what I know from other software it's as easy as logging into MySQL, looking up the field and entering a new number.

    Source: have adminned phpBB and vBB boards.

    [–]srtor 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Fantastic writeup. Now Reddit is a sell-off bitch. Just a sad state of affair.

    [–]ratchetthunderstud 22ポイント23ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I completely agree. If reddit wants to Digg its own grave, let them.

    [–]m0q 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    since you figured all of the above, automatically downvotes should not be a surprise :)

    Are months that I'm pointing many of the points you've made with different accounts (those accounts usually gets shadowbanned or a target for automatic downvoting)

    glad to see them (and more) clearly explained

    [–]Oduku 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    interesting writeup. i dont agree with every point but the comments about ama are spot on. let's not forget about master shill accounts like hmlee and others that exist to support agendas.

    i think manufactured consent should be a required book in high school curriculums. imagine what kind of society we'd be...

    [–]Mantraa 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Sounds eerily similar to the situation thay forced the ol' Digg migration... Corporate interests ruin anything and everything with a grain of salt to its name.

    [–]R88SHUN 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well said.

    Removing the vote-counter was the "last straw" for me. Before that I was able to shrug off the propaganda subreddits and admins blatantly facilitating PR interests(obviously for profit).

    But such a malicious injury the users as intentionally obscuring the votes was what ended any benefit of the doubt I could possibly give the pieces of shit who run this site.

    [–]tdsfp 48ポイント49ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Just offering a bit of a different opinion.

    Reddit definitely has changed over the years. I joined 6 years ago and lurked for a while. It used to be very intimidating to participate in serious subreddits because comments were extensively backed by personal or professional knowledge, or citations to articles.

    If you were wrong you'd be called out instantly.

    The Reddit community was exponentially smaller. Big subreddits had maybe 100K users. Probably less. I can't remember exactly.

    But there were always dumb jokes.

    Remember pun mega threads?

    Remember the narwhals bacon at midnight?

    Dumb jokes and dumb behavior was always a part of Reddit. It didn't used to be just an enlightened and progressive utopia.

    It just feels inaccurate to bemoan the loss of Circlejerk because it was a garbage subreddit for most of its life. It started as a kind of clever satire group and turned into dumb garbage.

    Same for places like fffffuuuuuuuuu or atheism.

    To me the death of Reddit is more about a massive influx of young and ignorant people trying to exploit Reddit. Look at my art, listen to my music, watch this video I made.

    /r/music had to make rules against self promotion because it was so rampant and annoying.

    same with /r/wearethemusicmakers

    That's exactly what's happening now is exploitation for self gain. It's more sophisticated but that's because there's more to gain.

    Reddit is nothing more than an ad site. Everything is fake and everyone is selling something.

    So yeah of course corporate interests are trying to get in on it, but everyone else is, too.

    It's lots of dumb people and lots of advertisers ruining the site. There may be some evil forces influencing parts of the site, and government agents of all kinds monitoring and steering discussions when they can.

    But we're having this discussion in the open and uninterrupted so everyone needs to chill out about Reddit being taken over and destroyed.

    It's not all destroyed, because we can still organize and talk to each other.

    The "mass media" subreddits like /r/news or politics have always been a joke so who cares. Go build up a good community in /r/worldpolitics or something.

    /r/moosearchives is also a place to direct people to if they want to learn.

    Reddit may be getting worse but we're all already here and can make parts better.

    [–]Red_Inferno 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    One thing I have always wondered is ok, so every OTHER subreddit is controlled by x, y or z although this subreddit is OBVIOUSLY NOT controlled.

    I am not saying I have not seem some truly suspicious shit posted here but not everything is a conspiracy.

    [–]workerbeee 36ポイント37ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Reddits founders selling out humanities current hyper mind switchboard is one of the more sad and shameful things I kn0 about.

    [–][deleted] 54ポイント55ポイント  (7子コメント)

    This is so true. Reddit has such fucking potential and in the beginning, so many amazing things were achieved by the users working in unison. I can vividly remember this website single-handedly leading to the closure of the Elan School, a place that abused children and was open for over 40 years.

    Reddit bitch-smacked that place within 24 hours and then it closed and all the children were released.

    Now look at what we have. Its a crying shame really. Such fucking wasted potential.

    [–]The-Internets 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Now you have the microstory on what happened to internet in general the last ~20 years.

    [–][deleted] 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Is it just me or have I seen a staggering amount of racism among other things popping up more frequently as well? I'm not talking about the aggro people talking about "SJW hug boxes" and shit either, but the real subtle stuff - the kind of stuff that silently creeps into a readers mind as "plausible" because it's not overtly offensive.

    [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yeah, I noticed that too. And I believe it also proves organized vote-brigading because sometimes you see downright racist comments that get tons of upvotes and anyone calling it out gets gang-downvoted.

    [–]Lo0seR 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Welcome back!

    [–]Simikiel 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    First off, I'm sorry for replying to this post even though it's 3 days old. I know it's a massive Reddit Faux Pas.

    But I just need to say that... Reading this made me physically ill. I have been a redditor for just over 3 years now, and didn't have the faintest clue that any of this was going on. Thank you /u/shark_shank.

    For opening my eyes to the horrors that this site has become.

    I think I'll wait a few months, wait for Voat to get a few more users before I consider switching over there.

    [–]Jemora 24ポイント25ポイント  (13子コメント)

    I wasn't here before they changed the voting. I wondered as soon as I saw it who was responsible and why they didn't show us upvotes and downvotes so we'd know. It seemed so silly and it still does.

    The military base activity is terrifying and we Americans should be able to sue our government for engaging in this behavior, if not prosecute criminally. If enough Americans had any sense, we would do so at once. I apologize to the rest of the world, we're mainly media celebrity gobbling idiots. But hey, did you hear something or other about that whatsits chick who got famous for two seconds for taking off her clothes in an Ohio mall?

    I wouldn't compare reddit to foxnews. At least not just yet. But I suppose in a way it could become worse. What's worse than censorship? Highly skilled manipulation of perception so that people don't even say what the powers that be feel should be censored to begin with. It isn't just Reddit, though. Not by a long shot. Been seeing this stuff online for over a decade now. Everything from silly advertising to dead serious political stuff. Complete with personal attacks on everyone who doesn't toe the line.

    Thanks for confirming something I've seen other sites do and wondered if this one did: Disappearing posts but letting the writer of the post still see it as though it's actually there.

    That is dirty. Really dirty.

    [–]iki_balam 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

    it just goes to show this place is a business

    [–]Jemora 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Makes me wonder why more independent sites similar in layout to Reddit and other forums (Huffpo and Democratic Underground, for example) don't seem to get anywhere. The biggest sites for politics have all pissed me off one way or another. But there are no viable alternatives.

    [–]SamKitz 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    (3) And people wonder why I HATE AMAs so much..........

    [–]throwawayfutureguy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'll connect with a throwaway just to give you an upvote. Not really useful but hey.

    My main account was banned over an issue with JIDF. I don't really remember the exact topic, it concerned Israel though. Now i'm not really antisemitic : half my family has disappeared for being jew in WW2 (am french), a stepsister has married a jew (and became herself jew), plus for 10 years now I study geopolitics and macroeconomics as a hobby (because why the fuck not, it's like game of throne in the real world). So we had a discussion, obligatory JIDF shills appear, so fucking obvious we were like 10 to call them out. Then we see they open a r/conspiracy topic linking to our discussion so we also call them out here. Wrong move fuckers.

    I lost my 3 year old account that day. I was banned from several subreddit, including r/conspiracy, and little by little it went from banning to doxing. Deleted everything in a hurry. Of course reddit staff was contacted, but you know? I was the bad guy, because I'm a fucking antisemitic conspiracy tard.

    Reddit is dead indeed. Went from "4chan with clever discussion" to "witch hunt and marketing tool". Move on, it's over.

    [–]know_comment 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

    No more r/circlejerk, that pesky subreddit hits too close to home

    this is the only part of that post that I didn't get. /r/circlejerk is just a meta jerk where they repeat whatever memes are popular on that particular sub. I never see anything that questions the politics or perspective of the hive. They mostly just talk about how comcast is a bunch of nazis.

    For instance, you mention that we get a lot of military propaganda- pictures with soldiers and dogs. You'll never see anything like that on r/circlejerk.

    Infact, they spend a lot of time mocking 9/11 Truth, which hasn't been popular on reddit in about 5 years- other than in this sub.

    [–]Hazzman 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reddit is nothing more than 9gag for me now.

    [–]Jetter0 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow. This is spot on...

    [–]JoeRuinsEverything 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Feel good" military posts started appearing, like a soldier coming home to his dog.

    I've been saying this for years now.

    [–]LonghornWelch 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I first noticed that this kind of activity was going on on reddit when /r/science started banning "climate deniers". No legitimate criticism of any study or conclusion derived therefrom was allowed that disagreed with reddit's position on global warming. It could have been the worst, most contrived, error ridden study in existence, but oh well you're banned!

    Reddit is a huge propaganda tool now. It is cool for some niche things, but I hate supporting the site knowing what it is becoming despite the cool subreddits and threads you can find here.

    [–]Ilove_Oreos 22ポイント23ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Reading this makes me want to quit this site. It was fun while it lasted. I will also be deleting my alien blue app

    [–]ViciousCycle 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I generally agree with OP, I'd just like to point out that the common factor behind all of the listed changes is control over how politics is discussed on reddit. The admins decided that they didn't want anything truly controversial on the front page, and they made changes to make that (mostly) happen.

    If you want to don a thin layer of tin foil, I suspect that certain organizations desire to curtail reddit's crowdsourcing abilities - such as when we helped to stop SOPA.

    [–]SistaSabuda 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hit the nail on the head with the voting one. That's exactly the point -- peer pressure/perpetuating herd mentality.

    [–]OGCheddar 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well done. Thanks for all this.

    [–]Deathcrow 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    4) The appearance of shills soon became VERY apparent.

    Everyone should be aware of these techniques to spot a shill/spy:

    http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5

    [–]Slipgrid 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The first thing they did was create sub-reddits... reddit without censorship or subreddits is a really neat tool.

    The thing is... there is an uncensored version of reddit... but it is not for you. They can do math to see how fast an article accelerates before they remove it, or +4k it. And, they keep it for themselves.

    Don't vote.

    [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Very interesting read, quality post.

    [–]kainer 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Just yesterday I asked myself: WTF happened to reddit? Seems like only the FBI, NSA and CIA is talking here nowadays. One voice. Where are this crazy & individuall minds and rich talks? Nothing critical/real anymore. Just opinions I saw on Fox News and the German 'Bild' magazin already. This sucks.

    [–]SaxonWitch 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I really despise shadow banning, why shouldn't I know that I was banned? Unless there is a sadistic nerd somewhere getting pleasure out of people not being informed? It's the most childish thing about reddit. FFS just tell people.

    [–]halonumber14 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    incredible find about Eglin Air Force Base being reddit's most addicted city! screams cointelpro-esque tactics

    [–]shadowofashadow 29ポイント30ポイント  (21子コメント)

    You can add the 'no calling shill' rule to the list. And I get it, people call other people shills too often, do we really need to start banning people over it though? Why not call them out when they accuse someone of being a shill without any proof?

    http://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/304uk6/the_reddit_trend_towards_banning_people_from/

    [–]joedude 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

    We need to have a site-wide campaign to have EVERYONE sort by NEW.

    Then everyone will SEE the suspicious bullshit that i always point out...

    Like 2 hours into a post with a guy in uniform getting licked by his dog that i can reverse image search in seconds and find from a news article two years ago somehow has 2000 upvotes and 120 comments.. mhm... if everyone was on /r/new everyone would see that things arn't right.

    We also need to change reddit to force people into the comment section when they open a link...i don't know but it would help if the comment section was somehow forced on people lol. A big problem is just the sheer number of lurkers.

    [–]Gogols_Nose 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So what would some similar sites be that remain, at least for now, more respectable?

    [–]Maxables 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm leaving this site.

    [–]Metabro 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They even shame this type of post over in /r/theory of reddit which is mostly filled with fluff stuff that everyone already knows.

    [–]shodanx 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Actually, reddit will be destroyed by the publication of an NNTP-like protocol in an RFC that implements every feature of reddit in a decentralised uncontrollable way.

    [–]Lag-Wagon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have felt this way for some time now. I have noticed almost everything you have said. I don't have an alternative so I read it all with a heavy dose of skepticism.

    [–]Aenima1 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    CIA now runs reddit through popular subs. Mockingbird still widely in effect. Classic CIA We need to digg this site

    [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is fantastic.

    [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think reddit is still useful if you unsub all defaults and sub stuff like /r/conspiracy. Reddit is still extremely valuable for me to decipher the truth from the lies. Sure, we aren't reaching people who aren't already sympathetic to the cause but it is still very useful for those who are.

    [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reddit became mainstream, and then corporatiz'd.

    [–]gliph 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    6) Speaking of voting, they changed that too.

    We now have an entirely new way to view upvote/downvote scores. A user used to be able to see their score. But now, everything is fuzzed. For example, if you made a semi-controversial comment before, but many people agreed, you may have a score like (47/45), leaving you with a -2 next to the comment. Now you just get a -2 and nobody knows if anyone agreed with you.

    I hate this change so, so much. Whoever did this... fuck them.

    [–]iateyourcake 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You know, when I first discovered reddit, it was like the Wild West of the Internet, but I mean that in the best possible way. Content was user determined, shills were few and far between, and you could tell when someone actually disagreed with your statements.

    Over the past few years, I have seen things take a tragic change, I can no longer depend on r/news and R/worldnews to deliver real news, and this sub to an extent has even changed.

    Is there another "reddit" circa 2011, out there? If so, point me in that direction and I will leave this site forever.

    [–]rightbackinit 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    deserves to be stickied

    [–]why_compromise 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Did any of you see that "Steve Buscemi" AMA the other day? Photoshopped picture bullshit. No one said anything about it not a single mention despite the complete similarities to the Morgan Freeman 'shop. That was my last straw, I am just waiting for something else and parking here but I have no more doubts Reddit is fucked.

    Edit, I went back because I still can't believe no one said anything. pages and pages and I FOUND ONE!!! 1 person and they were at -1

    [–]Metallicarox 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Maybe it's possible the camera reversed his text and the mirror corrected it?

    [–]jdavij2003 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It looks to me like a post-it note on the mirror behind him. The post-it note is covering the part of the mirror that would be reflecting his hands and phone into the camera.

    [–]3Try8 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    What's the solution to shill accounts? Obviously companies and such are going to promote themselves on social media, so how do you prevent that?

    [–]chucicabra 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What's the solution to shill accounts?

    Critical thinking. That is the only solution unless you want to register with a state ID.

    [–][deleted] 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Preventing it is definitely an uphill battle and it will only become more sophisticated as one tries to prevent it. But like anything in life, it is worth it to slow down and deter the problem, even if it will inevitably come back.

    I think an even bigger issue is why we are doing NOTHING to prevent it while actively making it easier for them to manipulate the site. This website seems to be great at destroying checks and balances instead of evolving them.

    [–]pfcat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Does anyone have any ideas about what we can do? Also, I am amateur web programmer but I'm thinking that it might be good to make a website that tracks certain things on reddit, or allows people to put un-delete stuff there rather than on reddit... But I'm not sure if I'd get in trouble for hosting reddit comments on my site.. Any input?

    [–]BobScratchit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think the shadow banning is their biggest weapon against the casual occasional poster.

    [–]interwebsamurai 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So where can we find a site that isn't bullshit anymore?

    [–]flappiehead 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow you put a lot of time into that!

    [–]joeyjojojrshabadew 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I remember as the upcoming election loomed, all of a sudden, r/circlejerk (one of the old default subreddits) became completely obsessed with bashing Ron Paul.

    I remember the election cycle before this, where Ron Paul was reddits darling. It might have even gone a little overboard IMO but at least it was honest.

    Also on that same note, in the years following 9/11 there was plenty of open-mindedness on differing theories of what really happened, was or wasn't it a conspiracy, and so on. Try that now on reddit and you will be ignored, mass downvoted, or ridiculed.

    [–]michael333 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    'REAL' that's the word. I've been watching as quietly as I can, for 9 years now. This about sums it up.

    [–]Michael_Bloomberg_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Some of my favorite puff piece propaganda comes from Europe. The once a month front page posts idolizing the queen. Some silly photo of the queen with her in all her glory pops up once a month on the front page. I always scratched my head as to "why" and made an off the cuff remark about her and was banned from the sub. It wasn't even that bad.

    While I believe much of the influence is geared towards monetary gain as opposed to government control, there are some posts that come along that leave me scratching my head. The creepy utah daycare being one of those posts.

    I don't believe everything is a conspiracy, but I do believe reddit has become riddled with agendas and is sensoring like crazy. Be it government, corporate, or mod with an agenda, I will probably never know. I bet if Snowden tried to use reddit to expose the NSA he would be promptly banned before anyone could read it. He's only allowed to post now because the cat is already out of the bag.

    [–]PlotinusGallacticus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What's the alternative?

    I moved to Reddit because my other forum subtlety guided non-mainstream ideas out of the politics/news discussion areas. Looks like Reddit has had the same operation done here.

    [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I just checked OP and I've been shadow banned from /r/news. I commented "interesting" on the top post, did your permalink trick and it's not there. Cool beans.

    [–]DatAznGuy 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Lets make MetaFilter popular again.

    [–]DudeAsInCool 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I havent experienced the issues you have, but you have some good ideas on how to make Reddit completely open. The Admins shoud read and take notice. Also, you should not have been deleted -- consider this post a protest on your behalf.

    [–]miraoister 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I hate the military circlejerk on reddit.

    [–]1920x1080 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I read everything and the first thing that came to mind was Digg. There was so much hate for it in my day and I never once jumped on that bandwagon. Funniest thing was I kept telling myself that Reddit is Digg and that one day, users will abandon it in droves for something better.

    I really feel like it's happening.

    [–]duffman489585 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have seen a metric fuck ton of censorship here. Mods will regularly delete a comment they don't like (usually criticizing the mods or calling them out on some other censorship) and then put a note saying it was something entirely different. There really very much needs to be a move, this is not the reddit I joined 6 years ago anyway, that reddit has been dead for a while.

    [–]Idontlikekarmawhores 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reddit is controlled by the media to show what it wants to show, to monopolise content, to manipulate content, to push an agenda (feminism is the biggest one so far). Yep, its all going to shit.

    [–]Thinks_Like_A_Man 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The New Reddit. . . a corporate advertising vehicle with forum capabilities.

    [–]assramajama 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's funny - I was a part of /r/buyitforlife before it blew up, and there was so much more insight and less group-think. Now, it is becoming overrun with advertisements (covert and overt) for items, and there is shady stuff happening...