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AnnouncementImportant Moderator Announcement (self.serialpodcast)

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Update: first and foremost-Waltz is on vacation and not where he can access wifi regularly in case you all are wondering why he has not been more vocal. He did confirm with Admins that the user had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted. That is all I know. One last thing-the admins told me they could not share with me information about whether or not the users account was hacked or how it came to be deleted. Should the user get verification from admins and share it with us, we'll be happy to pass that on.

At this time, we will move forward as we were and keep an eye out for any suspicious activity. The admins have been made aware of our concerns and Harleyquinndc let us know that she also had contacted admins regarding her concerns. If we learn anything else, we will let you know. If you have specific concerns, please message the mods.

Update: guys-at this time all I know for sure that I can tell you all is that Harleyquinndc account is no longer active-it's has been deleted but not shadow banned as far as I know. I cannot verify anything else at this time. I have reached out to admins and when I have more information I will absolutely let you guys know. Harleyquinndc had already offered to step down due to the concern before the account was deleted.

For the time being I am leaving this post up so that I can provide updates and so that no one feels anything is being hidden.

ETA: Well, scratch that-no new mod at this time. More info will be provided when available.

~~Due to IRL commitments, /u/waltzintomordor has decided to step back from moderating at this time. Waltz is not leaving as a moderator, but his focus will be on helping with CSS and other such projects rather than actively working the mod queue.

With that in mind, we have decided to add a new moderator to the sub. Please welcome /u/HarleyQuinnDC to join our moderating team! I would like to thank /u/HarleyQuinnDC for taking the job on!~~

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[–]TheFraulineS 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

If someone is shadow banned, username and comments stay (try finding old comments of summer - still there).

HQ's account got deleted.

[–]MightyIsobelGuilty 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

HQ didn't sound like she was thinking of deleting. I wonder how many personal attacks the inno-adnan posters flooded her PM box with. I'm disgusted just thinking about how bad it probably was.

[–]ScoutFinch2 16ポイント17ポイント  (62子コメント)

Okay, this is getting old. HQ claims their Reddit account was hacked and deleted, as well as other social media accounts, similar to what happened to Ghost. According to them they did not delete their own account and are not shadowbanned. According to them they have messaged the mods about this. According to Ryo they are in contact with Admin and are trying to find out what happened. IF HQ was shadowbanned it should be very simple to verify that with admin, though I can't speak for Ryo as to whether or not s/he would forward that information to us. At this point I think we all need to know if HQ was shadowbanned or deleted at the very least. I have no first hand knowledge of whether or not HQ is an UNE sock. I can only tell you that I asked them directly and they told me they are not.

Edit Hopefully everyone will read Ryokineko's update. Admin was not able to connect /u/HarleyQuinnDC to UNE or any other alt accounts.

[–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (36子コメント)

I wanted to add just a few thoughts, take em for whatever they're worth. I think it's sad and unfortunate what has happened as a result of both Une and Summer operating multiple socks. Essentially we were all deceived and now none of us know who to trust. Everyone thinks any new guilty side account is an UNE sock and every new innocent side account is a summer sock, myself included. And the accusations fly. I'm sure sometimes those accusations are true. Other times they are not and we have falsely accused users of being UNE or Summer. I have only one account and I've always had only one account. If you are someone not summer or UNE who has or is operating multiple accounts then you are part of the problem and have no business accusing anyone of anything. Imo, POY should have shut down this sock crap months ago, but they let it go on and now it has permeated this sub to the extent that no one here is considered trustworthy enough to be a mod of this insane sub. I have no idea if HQ is UNE. If they are, I would not support them being a mod. But if they aren't then all of us need to reexamine ourselves. And one way to get back to some semblance of an honest discussion is to stop accusing and stop being part of the problem by being a sock yourself. Frankly, I'm just really sick of it.

[–]cbr1965Is it NOT? [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As another user that has only had one account, I completely agree with all of this. The sock drawer is a serious problem and creates an inability to believe almost anyone here on either side.

[–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Nice try, Janecc.

[–]peymax1693 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I concur.

[–]CompulsiveBookNerdgiant rat-eating frog [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed.

[–]timdragga [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That is fairly stated.

[–]ainbheartach [スコア非表示]  (24子コメント)

You would think that if they were going to make anyone a moderator here they would have chosen a person who was still active on reddit? Wouldn't you?

You would also think that they would at least have shown some caution about those it was shown were likely to be socks? Wouldn't you?

You are aware that after it was announced that /u/HarleyQuinnDC was one of Une's socks /u/HarleyQuinnDC went silent, did not participate in any of the open subs on reddit as /u/HarleyQuinnDC until after we were told they were a new moderator on this sub.

Any answers to why they went silent for that period?

[–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (19子コメント)

Any answers to why they went silent for that period?

Why would I even try to answer that. I've already said a couple of times that idk if HQ is UNE. It's not for me to figure out, it's for admin and the mods of this sub and I trust that they will do that.

[–]ainbheartach [スコア非表示]  (17子コメント)

Why would I even try to answer that.

Are you not curious as to how it was decided that they should be a moderator here?

[–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (16子コメント)

I admit it was pretty out of the blue. But I took Ryo at face value when s/he explained how it came to be. And Waltz happens to be one that I do trust to the extent that I'm sure s/he wouldn't be trying to sabotage the sub by knowingly putting someone in a mod position that wasn't trustworthy. I'm not privy to everything that goes on around here and in the private subs so I didn't know HQ had been absent for so long.

[–]ainbheartach [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

it was pretty out of the blue.

Definitely.

But I took Ryo at face value when s/he explained how it came to be. And Waltz

I expected that that they carried due diligence as PoY was extremely cautious about picking out new mods because of the confidential information held and because of that one would think ryo and waltz be as cautious and even more so after the sock revelations.

First thing I did on hearing the news was do a quick check on their commenting history of the new mod as you want to see what type of mod they will be. Alas, I was very tired when I did so but it was quite glaring the absence, and how many comments they put up about moderation.

[–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

I expected that that they carried due diligence as PoY was extremely cautious about picking out new mods because of the confidential information held and because of that one would think ryo and waltz be as cautious and even more so after the sock revelations.

From /u/ryokineko in the updated topic: He did confirm with Admins that the user (/u/HarleyQuinnDC) had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted.

Here's some tissue, wipe that egg off your face.

[–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I would hope that they would have taken caution about who they chose, also, and I don't know that they didn't. That's why I'm just waiting to hear what admin finds out.

[–]ainbheartach [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Good to wait for what the admins say but with the early deletion of the account and the 'convenient excuse' saying the account was hacked with the revelations coming from the TMP camp it does sound as if the game is up for this one.

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    [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    You would also think that they would at least have shown some caution about those it was shown were likely to be socks? Wouldn't you?

    From /u/ryokineko in the updated topic: He did confirm with Admins that the user (/u/HarleyQuinnDC) had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted.

    Here's some tissue, wipe that egg off your face.

    [–]awhitershade0fpaleYusuf Syed Fan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Oh what a tangled web we weave. When first we practice to deceive.
    What is best used to remove egg? I imagine you would know from all the hype you created after Duncan lobbed unfounded accusations a couple of weeks ago. Heads up, you might want to climb down off that horse before you are no longer discernible from it's rear.

    [–]YouvebeenRitzed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    cough cough woodlawns pride cough cough homicide unit cough cough

    [–]islamisawesomeAdnan Fan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    The sock problem wouldn't be a quarter as bad if the mods didn't ban people at the drop of a hat who have no intention of staying out of the discussion.

    [–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It's not so much a problem of people creating a single new account to circumvent a ban, it's a problem of users operating multiple accounts at the same time.

    [–]ryokinekoMod 8[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (22子コメント)

    Yes if I find out anything indicating admins took action I will absolutely let you know.

    [–]ScoutFinch2 7ポイント8ポイント  (21子コメント)

    Thank you. I think that's all we really need to know.

    [–]MightyIsobelGuilty [スコア非表示]  (20子コメント)

    Whatever the outcome, I think it's completely inappropriate for TMP's security problems to spill over into our community's choice of moderators. HQDC is helpful and knowledgeable. She is being smeared by posters who want to control the discourse here.

    Whatever TMP's problems are, they should keep it to themselves.

    [–]pointlesschaff [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Is there any evidence of her being helpful and knowledgeable? I thought she hadn't posted here in months?

    [–]ainbheartach [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I think it's completely inappropriate for TMP's security problems to spill over into our community's choice of moderators.

    If they have had problems with this person over there then it is highly likely that we will have the same problems with them over here.

    Really can't account where your mind is at, this sub is not a guilters only playground.

    [–]Tu-Stultus-Es [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Lol. "Just because your poorly secured store keeps getting shoplifted, that's no reason to not want one of the thieves elected mayor."

    [–]peymax1693 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

    What? It's our fault that Une is such a DB that he had a mole join the TMP?

    [–]MightyIsobelGuilty [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

    Take it up with the TMP mods, or whoever was approving memberships over there.

    It has nothing to do with our discussion here.

    [–]peymax1693 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    It does if the same person who was leaking private information from TMP is now a mod on this sub. Several members of TMP are still members of this sub, such as myself, and we have legitimate concerns based upon our prior experiences.

    Or do you only care about the well being of people who share your belief that Adnan is guilty?

    [–]MightyIsobelGuilty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Let me make sure I understand the concern: comments published on the internet to anonymous strangers were then shared with other anonymous strangers, and this is supposed to have something to do with our discussion here in serialpodcast?

    My mother always told me: Don't put anything in print you don't want shared with the world. It was good advice.

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      [–]eyecanteven [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

      "smeared by posters who want to control the discourse here."

      Yes. budgiebudgie's toxicity has no place here.

      There is so much bullshit being posted in here. Fake made-up bullshit about HQ, to be clear.

      HQ didn't sound like she was thinking of deleting. I wonder how many personal attacks the inno-adnan posters flooded her PM box with. I'm disgusted just thinking about how bad it probably was.

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          [–]eyecanteven 14ポイント15ポイント  (104子コメント)

          Anyone care to explain what the fuck happened?

          [–]ScoutFinch2 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Isn't it obvious?

          [–]orangetheorychaos 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

          No.....

          [–]eyecanteven 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I know what I think happened, I'm wondering if there is insight from other moderators or anyone else who might be able to shed some light.

          [–]MaleChump 5ポイント6ポイント  (95子コメント)

          Now that Harley has deleted their account, I'm prepared to draw two conclusions: a) Harley was an Une sock and b) the mods exercised poor judgment in choosing Harley.

          [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

          a) Harley was an Une sock and b) the mods exercised poor judgment in choosing Harley.

          Can you explain why you're prepared to draw those conclusions? I have no idea what's going on...

          [–]orangetheorychaos 2ポイント3ポイント  (43子コメント)

          Oh, is this the obvious scout meant? (No snark. I don't remember seeing this user at all)

          Eta: Scout has confirmed this is not the obvious they meant

          [–]ScoutFinch2 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

          No, neither of those is what I meant.

          [–]MaleChump 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          There had been allegations made against Harley in the past. We'll have to see what the mods say.

          [–]rockyali 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I have no idea what scout meant. But I doubt it was this.

          [–]eyecanteven 0ポイント1ポイント  (38子コメント)

          Has Scout confirmed what they did mean?

          [–]orangetheorychaos 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

          Not to me or that I've seen. I think they deferred to the mods. Or the mod- anyway

          Why is everyone so whisper whisper tiptoe about this? There's at least two or three accusations of real people commiting murder or conspiracy of murder, on here, at least every day.

          I mean come on, perspective

          [–]eyecanteven 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

          I agree. I'm not a fan of the "I know things but I'm not going to tell you" type comments.

          [–]ScoutFinch2 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

          I'm sorry. I really didn't mean for it to come across that way. I sort of got caught in the middle and now I'm leaving it to the mods to access the situation. I love the drama of discussing the case, but this infighting stuff isn't for me.

          [–]ScoutFinch2 10ポイント11ポイント  (30子コメント)

          Originally what I meant was it seemed obvious that HQ deleted their own account because of the backlash about their becoming a mod. What we are seeing, where the user name says "deleted" but the comments remain is not what it looks like when someone is shadowbanned or removed as a user by admin. However, there may be more going on here and /u/orangetheorychaos is correct that I'm deferring to the mods.

          [–]rockyali 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          This seems like a minor amount of backlash for this sub.

          [–]CreusetController 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

          PoY and Ryokineko have in the past taken far more backlash than that for week after week after week. And from far larger groups of users. So if Harley deleted their account for that reason, rather than just stepping down, they were a truly bad choice and were suffering some serious delusion about what the job would involve..

          [–]ScoutFinch2 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Some people are more thin skinned than others, true?

          But having said that, we will wait for the mods to fill us in on what's going on here, because at the moment, I'm as confused as everyone else.

          [–]CreusetController 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          yeah. but like us she'll have seen what happened to others before. so it isn't an explanation that works for me.

          agreed though we will have to wait and see.

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            [–]AMAworker-bee 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

            Harley's comments show as "deleted".

            [–]ScoutFinch2 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

            Not trying to be snarky, but what's your point?

            [–]marybsmom 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

            I think that if you're shadow banned your comments would be gone. If you delete your account comments can stay. I heard from a mod earlier that HQ deleted their account, wasn't SBed.

            [–]ScoutFinch2 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

            You're comments before the ban stay there. That's why the user doesn't even realize they're shadowbanned. If they try to post, they can still see their new comment but no one else can. When Gerty was shadowbanned a few days ago, her user name and comments didn't disappear.

            [–]CreusetController 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

            agreed. I didn't understand for a long time, but eventually confirmed it by watching what it looks when people disappear, and then sometimes, come back and are public about having been shadowbanned.

            [–]cbr1965Is it NOT? 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I think the username being deleted is the key. When you delete your account, from what I understand, you also have the option of deleting your comments.

            [–]Justwonderinif [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            This happened to Noiresque. She was shadowbanned, and then deleted her account because she was told by another redditer that they never get lifted.

            Just like many people here, her shadow ban was lifted. But by then, she had deleted her account. So you can delete your account after you are a shadow banned.

            Not saying that's what happened here. But it's possible HQDC was shadowbanned, and then deleted his/her account.

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              [–]eyecanteven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Ok. Thank you.

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                [–]marybsmom 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                And if Harley is Une and had access for 12 hours to mod mails and the personal information verified users gave up then it's kinda scary.

                ETA Why is this being down voted? I said "if".

                [–]jjungsch [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                Because Une is not some evil person you all make him out to be.

                [–]alienticGod damn it, Jay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                As someone who personally dealt with Une for several months, I can say conclusively that people are actually going easy on him.

                [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                You have got to be kidding me.

                [–]cbr1965Is it NOT? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Seems to be the most likely scenario.

                [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Now that Harley has deleted their account, I'm prepared to draw two conclusions: a) Harley was an Une sock

                From /u/ryokineko in the updated topic: He did confirm with Admins that the user (/u/HarleyQuinnDC) had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted.

                Here's some tissue, wipe that egg off your face.

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                  [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 6ポイント7ポイント  (50子コメント)

                  I have reached out to admins and when I have more information I will absolutely let you guys know.

                  Riddle me this: What would the involvement would the Admins have with /u/HarleyQuinnDC voluntarily deleting their account?

                  [–]marybsmom -4ポイント-3ポイント  (49子コメント)

                  That there are a number of Redditors who have evidence that HQ is an Une sock and Une cannot use Reddit. Mods have access to every single mod mail sent for the entire history of the sub, they're not deletable. Of more concern is that mods have access to the personal information verified users hand over during the verification process. That information is usually really confidential.

                  ETA I have no idea if there was a breach, but HQ had access to this info for 12 hours. If I were a verified user on this sub I'd be deleting like mad. Imagine Une showing up on your FB or LinkedIn knowing your IRL identity.

                  [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 11ポイント12ポイント  (39子コメント)

                  That there are a number of Redditors who have evidence that HQ is an Une sock

                  ... can we see this evidence? I'd be pretty surprised if the mods didn't vet and verify HarleyQuinnDC's identity prior to making them a mod.

                  [–]MightyIsobelGuilty 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  There is so much bullshit being posted in here. Fake made-up bullshit about HQ, to be clear.

                  [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                  The innocenters love to throw around totally unsubstantiated allegations, don't they?

                  [–]marybsmom 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

                  I have a great deal of respect for Ryo and don't want to pile on, I think it was an honest mistake. And who knows? HQ may not be a sock. That said, I think we can all agree that socks are an issue here. From the moment I started commenting I was accused of being a sock. It was creepy. Most of the conversations about suspicions of this occur via PM so no, no evidence coming from me. This is an admin issue and they're on it.

                  [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                  That there are a number of Redditors who have evidence that HQ is an Une sock and Une cannot use Reddit.

                  Most of the conversations about suspicions of this occur via PM so no, no evidence coming from me.

                  I'm suspicious about a lot of things and people on here, but I don't go around stating my suspicions as fact. Put up or shut up.

                  [–]CompulsiveBookNerdgiant rat-eating frog [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  Hahahahahahaha this might be the funniest comment I've read all day!!

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                    [–]Seamus_DuncanKevin Urick: Hammer of Justice [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                    So you don't have any proof is what you're saying.

                    [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    It's secret evidence. You know, like the case against the case against Adnan Syed.. ;)

                    [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                    I'm not going to publish PMs, no. Interesting that there's such support for HQ as a mod when they were thrown out of a private sub for violating the subs basic rules. That's who you want as your mod?

                    [–]MightyIsobelGuilty [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                    If that's true, then harleyquinndc is uniquely qualified to moderate this sub because of her extra understanding of all sides of the fandom.

                    HarleyQuinnDC for serialpodcast moderator now!

                    [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                    Yet that seems to be exactly what happened. Do you think HQ would have been approved as a mod if Ryo had known HQ was booted from a sub for violating the rules of that sub? How can you have someone empowered with banning, deleting, etc, who has shown themselves to have acted unethically on Reddit?

                    [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                    With all due respect, I thought one of claimed virtues of the Innocenters was that they put their real name to their analyses? So who is there to doxx?? Susan, EP, Mike Cherry et al are already known. I can't think of another Innocenter posting anything notable behind a nom de guerre.

                    [–]Wawoyaka [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

                    I hadn't though of this before but this is a great reason to not verify. There probably was a time I would have. Not now.

                    [–]Justwonderinif [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                    No one should ever verify.

                    It is a misnomer created by Rabia and cohorts to get people to reveal themselves.

                    The idea that you can't post certain things here unless you verify was held up by many of the original mods. It was ridiculous. And ill advised. I've not found one other subreddit that does that, and it seems to be against the overall policy of reddit.

                    [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                    I couldn't agree more, someone was shitting on SachaBacha and Salmon33 the other day for not verifying. I say that raises my opinion of their intelligence.

                    [–]Justwonderinif [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                    "Verifying" here was invented as an intimidation tactic. You can't post anything against Adnan and say you knew him unless you verify.

                    It keeps people quiet. It is the antithesis of reddit and I'm surprised they got away with it as long as they did.

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                      [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      That there are a number of Redditors who have evidence that HQ is an Une sock and Une cannot use Reddit.

                      From /u/ryokineko in the updated topic: He did confirm with Admins that the user (/u/HarleyQuinnDC) had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted.

                      Here's some tissue, wipe that egg off your face.

                      [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

                      Taking a moment to think this through, the HQ sock allegations don't make sense- why would they agree to be a mod and then delete their account? If they were some nefarious sock, wouldn't they be quite tickled to be a mod going forward with whatever special access and information that provides?

                      The account deletion without warning is not consistent behavior with the account being a sock, imho. I have no idea what is going on, but of the offered hypotheses an account hack seems more probable.

                      [–]ScoutFinch2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      This is a good point.

                      [–]cbr1965Is it NOT? [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Or, they could have just copied everything they wanted out and now when any of it gets posted or people get doxxed they can claim it must be the hacker. It isn't quite as awesome having information if it can't be used. I have no inside knowledge on any of this. It is just another thought.

                      ETA: Or to avoid verification themselves. It is really easy to say he/she isn't comfortable with verifying since she was just hacked and very sensitive about it.

                      [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

                      I think the rush to judgment on the HQ sock issue is that HQ was booted from a private sub for violating the rules of the sub. Not exactly ethical behavior.

                      [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

                      I don't really follow along with serial reddit drama- are you saying HQ was banned from TMP or other sub on that side?

                      [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/serialdiscussion/comments/3iuzgd/uharleyquinndc_something_of_an_explanation_is/cujyv29

                      [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                      Ok, I see some allegations there. Given the new prominence of this issue, a public airing of the 'evidence' behind the allegations might be in order. I do find it strange that there was no announcement asking for mod nominations. I also don't recall seeing HQ around much, which makes them a curious choice for a mod. Maybe we should also have disclosure from the mods how the selection was made and why.

                      [–]cbr1965Is it NOT? [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                      That's a good idea. Usually they solicit volunteers or suggestions, don't they?

                      [–]Gdyoung1 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                      That's what happened last time, yeah.

                      [–]cbr1965Is it NOT? [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                      Maybe HQ was on the previous list and they just went back through it. Since HQ hasn't really been active here for a long time, that's all I can think of.

                      [–]marybsmom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      It's all been forwarded to admin.

                      [–]MrCheeneyGuilty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                      I don't geddit. My understanding is that /u/ryokineko is an active user at TMP. So why would Neko approve someone as a mod if they were aware of previous issues over there?

                      [–]ryokinekoMod 8[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      I am an active user there, but I am not a mod. I was not aware the user was an active member there or had been banned.

                      [–]Mrs_Direction 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

                      How did this come about?

                      [–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

                      Walt wanted to step back from the queue but the moderators agreed to continue with the balance of different viewpoints on the moderation team, so here I am.

                      [–]reddit1070 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Congrats.

                      [–]ArrozConCheeken 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Why deleted? Welcome, if that's you, Harley.

                      [–]Mustanggertrude 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      But in the past there has been a post asking if anyone is interested. To my knowledge, that didn't happen here. How were you selected? Did you inquire? Did a mod PM you? How did you come to be the mod after such a long hiatus?

                      [–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      In the past, I expressed my interest so when Walt decided to step back, my name came up.

                      [–]eyecanteven 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      my name came up

                      where?

                      [–]ryokinekoMod 8[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Between the mods

                      [–]Jhonopolis 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Id love to see those transcripts released. Without the watermark!

                      [–]eyecanteven 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      ok

                      [–]ocean_elf 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      u/HarleyQuinnDC is a dead link. Geez, that was fast.

                      [–]stop_saying_right 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Welcome HQ!!!!

                      [–]ColmarGal 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Welcome, Harley. Hold onto the handle bars--you are in for quite a ride. :)

                      [–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Thank you =)

                      [–]ainbheartach 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      waltzintomordor' has spoken their first words on this subject if anyone here is interested.

                      [–]MrCheeneyGuilty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Wow, this sub has officially gone full retard. Une sock, deux sock. Who gives a shit?

                      This has truly become one strange adventure.

                      [–]MightyIsobelGuilty 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      More info will be provided when available.

                      An update will be appreciated. There are some really toxic misleading things being said here.

                      [–]ainbheartach 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      Just gone through two pages /u/HarleyQuinnDC's top posts. They do go on about the moderation of this sub.

                      [–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Heh, I guess it's time to see if I can practice what I preach.

                      [–]islamisawesomeAdnan Fan 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Where did power of yes go?

                      [–]Mustanggertrude 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Yikes.

                      [–]YouvebeenRitzed 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

                      Are you all completely crazy? You're letting /u/UneEtrangeAventure's sock be a mod?

                      Good night /r/serialpodcast. This place is done for.

                      [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      So says a 17 day old account sitting at -27.

                      [–]YouvebeenRitzed 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I've got nothing against people who think Adnan is guilty and engage in reasonable discourse like /u/ghostofexschramm and /u/scoutfinch2 , also /u/orangetheorychaos. All fine people, believe Adnan is guilty, behave appropriately. I sincerely hope this choice for new mod is not final.

                      [–]dalegribbledeadbug 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Whose drawer did you come out of?

                      [–]YouvebeenRitzed -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Not the one this mod came out of. Yikes.

                      [–]rockyali 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Takes a sock to know a sock?

                      [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

                      Are you all completely crazy? You're letting /u/UneEtrangeAventure[1] 's sock be a mod?

                      From /u/ryokineko in the updated topic: He did confirm with Admins that the user (/u/HarleyQuinnDC) had no alts prior to us making the mod offer. Admins confirmed with me today that they cannot connect the user with Une or any known Une accounts nor how the account came to be deleted.

                      Here's some tissue, wipe that egg off your face.

                      [–]budgiebudgie 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

                      There are reasons why many are not happy with this moderating choice. /u/HarleyQuinnDC knows why and so do several people on both sides of this debate.

                      It would be prudent for them to bow out graciously.

                      [–]orangetheorychaos 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

                      Care to share?

                      [–]Mustanggertrude 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      She's a phony, a fake, and a fraud.

                      [–]orangetheorychaos 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      Ok, but in what way?

                      We're all fakes here in some way. At least no one is calling me orange theory chaos in real life haha

                      [–]Mustanggertrude 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      Weird, my drivers license says Mustang Sally Gertrude.

                      [–]Jodi1kenobiKC Murphy Fan 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Alright, I come clean... On my driver's lisence, I'm actually Jodi Wan (not 1) Kenobi.

                      What can I say, the other /u/ was already taken. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                      [–]orangetheorychaos 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I'm choosing to believe this is true, because awesome.

                      [–]pointlesschaff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Now you tell us, Sally.

                      [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      It would be prudent for them to bow out graciously.

                      Hmmm. Was that a threat budgiebudgie? Certainly reads like one. And shortly thereafter the account was deleted? Seems like the threat may have been followed through on.

                      Reported and screenshotted.

                      [–]MightyIsobelGuilty 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes. budgiebudgie's toxicity has no place here.

                      [–]CompulsiveBookNerdgiant rat-eating frog [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      Well said. Not "toxic" or threatening at all.

                      [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Burns HarleyQuinnDC in effigy

                      [–][deleted] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Hehe, you foresaw what I did not

                      [–]YouvebeenRitzed 5ポイント6ポイント  (47子コメント)

                      This is horrible. You've allowed an unstable individual access to personal, private information of people involved in this case. Shame on you. Witness the down vote brigade on my comments. I hope to GOD Asia's information isn't in your records. Anyway, I'm done here, you've allowed a psychopath to be a mod. I honestly cannot believe it.

                      [–]CircumEvidenceFan 4ポイント5ポイント  (15子コメント)

                      What are you talking about?

                      You're done here? Ok, bye.

                      Edited to add more thoughts

                      [–]YouvebeenRitzed 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

                      How quickly you forget, or choose to forget!

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/serialdiscussion/comments/39vivu/people_please_rip_narcotics_unit_is/

                      If you want your team represented by a psycho, that's super! You've got supporters who are not psycho, but you've clearly made your choice!!

                      /u/harleyquinndc, how about a speech, girl?

                      [–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      I encourage you to report your concerns to Admin; they are good about investigating such matters.

                      [–]pointlesschaff 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      I guess that didn't work out so well.

                      [–]ScoutFinch2 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      HQ deleted their own account.

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                        [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan -2ポイント-1ポイント  (30子コメント)

                        Witness the down vote brigade on my comments.

                        Gee, do you think it could be because you're making a bunch of crazy unsubstantiated conspiracy theory-ish claims about another user?

                        Nah, can't be that.

                        [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 10ポイント11ポイント  (29子コメント)

                        Why did harleyquinn delete their account?

                        [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 8ポイント9ポイント  (17子コメント)

                        How should I know...?

                        The extent of my knowledge right now is that I've got to go on an emergency popcorn run.

                        I would suggest that you, /u/timdragga et. al. might want to hold off on the victory celebration though, until we determine whether or not they actually deleted their account.

                        If it turns out that it's the doxxing and hacking shenaniganry that the free adnan crowd have become known for, and not /u/HarleyQuinnDC's choice, you're going to look a bit silly, so it might be best to use a bit of caution instead of jumping to conclusions as to what it means.

                        [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

                        Are you suggesting that someone convinced the reddit admins to shadowban this user? That's the only other possibility I can see at this point. Or the user had gold and disabled their account for an unknown reason.

                        [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        I was once doxxed on here and my gut reaction was to delete my account. In the end I deleted all of my posts and comments prior to that point (kept this account though).

                        So that's one possibility, they got doxxed and they freaked out.

                        The second possibility is their account may have been compromised and another user may have deleted their account. If I had your password, I could delete your account in 2 seconds.

                        I'm not saying that's what happened, I don't know, but neither of those possibilities would surprise me on this sub between the rampant doxxing and the weird IP finder thing that's been sent around a couple of times, and the fact that /u/HarleyQuinnDC just set themselves up to be a target by becoming a very unpopular mod choice.

                        [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        I guess we'll have to wait and see. Or perhaps wait and not see.

                        [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I'll get some extra popcorn!

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                          [–]Tu-Stultus-Es 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Excellent question.

                          [–]timdragga 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

                          Heh. Gosh. Let us guess...

                          [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          It's funny to me that StraightTalk made the argument that downvotes may be due to the poor quality of a comment... and now they're at zero -3 and dropping.

                          [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          A bunch of free Adnan people are jumping to the conclusion that the "conspiracy theory-ish claims" are true in light of the account being deleted.

                          I don't think that's a fair assessment of the facts at hand, but whatever, time will tell.

                          [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Time will indeed tell.

                          [–]StraightTalkExpressSusan Simpson Fan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          I'M BACK TO ZERO BABY! Is it a dead cat bounce or should we buy in to that comment?

                          [–]whitenoise2323giant rat-eating frog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Still showing -3 from my perspective. Reddit does fudge the results a bit.

                          [–]timdragga -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          LOL.

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                            [–]AMAworker-bee 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            I hope the moderation team does not intend to reinstate Harley under any name or any circumstance.

                            [–]Gdyoung1 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            Such a rush to judgement from one who is anguished in their belief the same happened to Adnan?

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                              [–]kitten70Is it NOT? 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              What the crap?!?

                              I go away for a few hours......

                              [–]kitten70Is it NOT? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Congratulations /u/harleyquinnDC !

                              You suuuure you wannna be a mod at a subreddit that goes through them like tissue during flu season?

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