IDGAF about this community anymore, and will be taking a long break from it, so I don't much care about the outcome of this vote. I'll only oppose for lilit's sake if desired by lilit.

Getting rid of min should not be controversial at all, it's the obviously right thing to do, I can't even comprehend how this is a big deal or why this should be a monumentally arduous process. But because of the institution put in place and a few bad actors even if min gets removed there will always be a struggle to get rid of the next min_Thame, sock or no sock, and I don't care for it anymore. Reddit democracy is broken as implemented, or working as designed, I'm not too sure which.

Furthermore, there will always be friction in metanarchism and it's unavoidable as long as the "Let's just make r/@ into an outreach tool for non-anarchist white straight cis racist sexist queerphobic fatphobic ableist fascist redditors like almost every other subreddit" demographic or the folks who are very opposed to that idea for good reason, are allowed to participate. Expect it even after Enkara and/or Min_Thame or any of the other actors are gone. Expect petty bullshit in meta because it will remain so long as the reddit democracy experiment continues.

Eliminating ideological enemies is normal in an environment where people's interests and needs are fundamentally opposed. Consensus is impossible in this world if it's all-inclusive, and a major social overhaul hasn't occured. Since there are already tons of other anarchism outreach and debate subreddits that let in a lot of bullshit, my position has always been that r/@ should not be that.

SRD threads are normal and a sign that you are operating in an unusual-for-reddit manner as you should. If nothing else, open subreddit politics is a spectacle on reddit, there's always gonna be SRD posts and ignorant fucking redditors who don't understand why you would ban people who say "cunt" unapologetically. Don't get frazzled by it.

Allowing enough freeze preachers to participate in meta guarantees the eventual dissolution of AOP and any such ideals so long as the reddit democracy experiment continues. This is REDDIT. So if you value such things you oppose such people. That's not even going into the rules min has broken and the constant trolling-just-enough-but-not-enough-at-once-to-ever-get-banned behavior, I have made threads outlining months of such behavior and it only gets removed by syncopate. I make a thread calling for his ban with no links and it gets removed by syncopate. I remove min unilaterally and it gets undone by syncopate, anyone notice an pattern?

But getting rid of meta entirely only silences the fundamental disagreement and likely just moves it to r/@ though, it will remain so long as any elected mod is really just there to keep spam under control and do whatever else is within Sync's comfort zone.

People are gonna get alienated either way, so choose, one way or another, and be upfront about what kind of community r/@ is.