Orange means orange you glad you didn't bring it up?

You must know boring, boring men.

Well, some people get a sense of satisfaction or control from getting reactions from people, especially when they feel they won't face any negative consequences.

That's different from someone who is just trying to be social or friendly and isn't good at it.

my thinking is that it may have started with documenting the clothing that women wore on a tv show. maybe mad men. maybe he went on to do it with other showes and eventually started doing it for real life.

That was my thought. Many trans people have initial issues with makeup etc.

If he was planning on transitioning, then it would seem a pretty sensible, normal idea to note these things down, so he doesn't end up just going off of magazines and potentially massively overdressing.

I'm not saying let's launch a full-frontal assault on the guy. I just think this is a red flag. It would be exactly like keeping statistics of anything else, if a) OP knew him as anything more than some random coworker and b) we knew that he wasn't keeping statistics of anything else.

It's a Schroedinger's cat sort of thing. Until we know why he's keeping that list, and what the context is behind it, he could be doing all manner of weird things. Right now all we know is that he's a guy keeping a really close eye on all of the women in his office...and that sends up a red flag to me.

I don't know about creepy but as one of the people being "tracked", it would have a huge effect on me as I'd be extremely self-conscious to know that everyday what I wore and how I looked was being reviewed and noted by this person, regardless of what for or the intent. I already am self-conscious enough about what I wear to work, this would throw me over the edge, and I imagine many people, women especially, would feel the same. "can't wear the grey skirt again, I wore it last week and jon will write it down so everyone will see how few clothes I own. And better do my hair different today, even if it means skipping breakfast." Ugh, the pressure!

Edit: I really don't want to make this about gender, but maybe guys don't really understand the pressure women feel about their appearance everyday, because for men work attire is generally the same thing day in and out. Women have the expectation to always be varying up their outfits, hairdos, make-up etc and the pressure is already there implicitly and soemtimes even explicitly, in office dress codes and the like, so for a man you might see this and just think "harmless data" but for women it's just one more example of a man explicitly scrutinizing their appearance. If he had kept it in his brain thats one thing, but he wrote it all down meaning there was lways the possibility of other's someday viewing it and of the information being shared--and that's not ok, regardless of intent. We're not dealing with sentient appliances here, we're dealing with people with feelings and insecurities and to whom this kind of "data collection" can be very hurtful.

Second edit: also wanted to add, this data collection could also have potential negative impacts on the jobs of the people being tracked. Since "professionalism" aka appearance and dress are often seen as important to a job, having a detailed summary of a worker's dress habits viewable to others could effect how that worker's boss or colleagues view them. Since we often don't see patterns untill they are laid out before us. And even though it's not new information, a boss thinking "hmm jane often wears those same shoes" could become "wow jane really does only ever wear the same two pairs of shoes, maybe she doesnt care much about her appearance or save money well to buy new clothing" and this in turn could effect her relationship, performance reviews, future promotions etc. You might think Im stretching here, but i don't think we can deny such data collection puts focus on these particular people's appearance, and this is a potential consequence.

Coffee machines and weather are not people. They do not interact with coworkers or have to work with people- they just have to exist with no sentience.

The fact that he only catalogued the outfits of the women and not the men makes it creepy IMO. Also He's looking over every single woman in the building in detail on a daily basis and keeping track of them. That's creepy.

I think what makes it creepy is that he only detailed the outfits of FEMALE co-workers. If he kept track of everyone, it would come across as an interest in data. But because he only focused on what the women wore, it gives his record keeping a sexual connotation. It becomes voyeuristic.

Because he's specifically targeting women.

Because nobody rapes coffee machines.

Ohhh well then, who cares about the women's feelings at all? The men's data is just not as interesting.

I was only half serious. He wouldn't do something like that to co-workers. He is just really obsessed with data sets and patterns.

I don't see how that's trickery. Taking the time to do all that seems like caring.

This is a little hilarious.

I've also come to accept that my father doesn't not care about me (once spelled my name wrong and didn't know my exact birthday for a long time), he just has a really shit memory for rote details.

He made himself memorize my mom's birthday the same way you'd memorize a locker combination, and that's about it.

Unfortunately not everyone gets out. I struggle to try to tell her the simplest things. Like context clues, and not to view everything as a binding moment. When you brand things it makes it seem else genuine. She also doesn't understand a romantic vs platonic relationship. So basically if you're her friend and you're nice to her she thinks you should date and becomes very possessive. I know girls that jump in and out of love too quickly, but it's more than that. She literally does not understand the difference.

Well, I wish we knew a little more about the notes he took. If it was on a spreadsheet I doubt it was anything like, "Today Monica is wearing the sexiest blazer that accentuates her boobs that I want to put my face in...followed by a messy bun that says, 'fuck me'". You know what I mean? I would think that something like that would actually take up a lot of his time and perhaps lead to frequent restroom breaks.

I'm sorry, I was hyperbolic. It's obvious that it makes OP feel uncomfortable. It seems like it makes some other people feel uncomfortable. It might even make me feel uncomfortable. But based on some other comments it seems like people are entertaining the idea that this person should lose his job. That seems like a radical response to what is otherwise (by itself - we haven't heard about any other behavior from OP) a really rather innocuous behavior. As /u/ReliablyFinicky put it elsewhere, "not everyone who does weird things is a ticking time bomb of violence" - nor really a ticking time bomb of anything.

Honestly this thread feels uncomfortably witch-hunty to me.