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Gamergate Drama/r/KotakuInAction discusses whether they should receive the same protections people have based on religion, sexual orientation, or skin color. (np.reddit.com)

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[–]DacryphileThere is no such thing as an infinite supply of threes. [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That entire thread reminded me of this.

[–]VodkaBarfAbout ethics in binge drinking [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Half of the drama on SRD this Summer reminded me of that.

[–]ThisTemporaryLifeChild of the Popcorn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think about that a lot when I read drama here. It's so perfect.

[–]Bingcrusher [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can I just point out that this is the top comment of that thread:

They don't care about you. They care about their echo chamber. You disturb that. I'm sorry it happened. Try /r/TrueOffMyChest[1] .

The irony is so thick I could cut it with a butter knife.

[–]OmegaBlue0231 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Gamergate has been barking at this tree for awhile now. Comparing themselves to discrimination faced by black people, or Muslims, or gay people. Or comparing people with more liberal attitudes being popular in video gaming to what happened to Native Americans during the colonization of the Americans.

[–]blahdenfreude"No one gives a shit how above everything you are." C. Hardwick [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah. They tried to claim that gamers were "natives" being "colonized" by the powers that be.

[–]AWhiteKnight123Literally Everything KiA Hates [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, most of them are sick so the comparison isn't totally wrong.

[–]poffin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My favorite is when they take feminist terminology while continuing to deny that the term has any truth to it. Ex: Cultural appropriation is just tumblr bullshit, but feminists are trying to culturally appropriate gaming for themselves.

[–]SilverSpookyI'm laughing with you not at you [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah... I saw someone on another sub complaining about this too and he used the word butthurt not realizing that described him exactly. Some self awareness would destroy that sub.

[–]VodkaBarfAbout ethics in binge drinking [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I taken to automatically dismissing anyone using that phrase.

[–]NurglingsWould Jesus support US taxes on Bitcoin earnings? [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

At this point gamergate might as well be a religion for KiA so maybe they are on to something.

[–]Simpleton216 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

They could.

[–]SEXUAL_ACT_IN_CAPSDownvote just because you don't like it [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Our Lady of Perpetual Disdain with a picture of Anita.

[–]poffin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Considering they're clinging harder to it as it becomes less and less relevant, I'd say the comparison is pretty apt

[–]ArchangelleDovakinsubsistence popcorn farmer [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

> persecution of people is okay as long as its among the approved list of people to persecute.

> persecution

> /r/kotakuinaction

mfw

[–]mach-2 [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Gamers are the only race people willingly discriminate against. They have been called everything from serial killers to pedophiles. They've had their culture appropriated by white hipsteratti journalists from San-francisco. These are who the gamers are going up against. The kids with the trust funds, whose fathers are the men who run the men who run the tabloids. If SRD wasn't so sjw, you might be able to see it. I know I'm going to be downvoted for this. But gamergate and kotakuinaction is not the demon SRD makes it to be. Have you seen the shit ghazi has pulled?

If you want to criticise gamergate, you should levy the same insults at BLM. They are responsible for that black guy that shot those journalists just as gamergate is responsible for the third party trolls in its ranks. Just saying.

[–]Mx7f [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Doing satire by taking what someone says and toning it down several notches isn't normal, but on GG it is.

[–]RacingKittens [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gamers are the only race people willingly discriminate against.

This is just so beautifully done. <3

[–]Cycloneblaze [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

DAE poe's law? Because I do.

[–]AWhiteKnight123Literally Everything KiA Hates [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At this point I don't even fucking know what's real anymore

[–]Archchancellor [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

*looks at profile...sees comment karma...looks at account age...

Do you...do you live here?

[–]TheProudBritCabal's Big Game Dangerous Hunts: SJW Edition [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Mach was part of drama way back when with Reddit, and a few weeks ago wrote something 'bout racism that got hella upvoted. Dude's had alotta time to work at shit.

[–]signet6 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What?! I'm (kind of, I think that gaming journalism needs to be forced to improve their ethical standards, but I don't like being associated with the shit-storm it has become today, with only extremists left really caring about it) pro-GG, but what you said was completely insane, unless you're piss-taking, in which case, sorry.

[–]thenewperson1metaSRD = SRDBroke lite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Likely copypasta. No way mach-2 wrote that seriously.

[–]tuliomg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

wait, is this ironic or not!?!?!?

[–]MoldyDinosaur/watch?v=qWlSPxhHero [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

You are starting to get dangerously close to a Rule 3 warning and it's becoming harder by the comment to believe you are still posting in good faith.

This is also at least partially the reason for the downvote storm you are receiving I suppose.

How you want to proceed is up to you.

From a KiA mod. From a group that supposedly pride themselves on free speech they sure do love mods that will ban and remove comments on vague reasons such as arguing in bad faith. You would think the rabid users would be rising against their fascist mods to stop that.

[–]nodeworx [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That was me... and I didn't delete any of his comments... I prefer not to wait until I have to do that. If a little gentle steering is effective, why wait until I really need to remove something.

While you will never believe it, I actually tend to give visitors to our sub a little more leeway than our own guys, who I hold to higher standards. Visitors tend to be less familiar with the rules and often having dissenting opinions that warrant giving them the benefit of the doubt and a little space to express themselves. Something I've certainly not received here from you guys.

Anyway, our modlogs are public and I have no problem standing behind any decision I've made there.

[–]MoldyDinosaur/watch?v=qWlSPxhHero [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You were using the rule as a threat or at least can be easily interpreted as such.

Don't you think the rule is too open to abuse by moderators. You can rarely prove someone is arguing in bad faith. Even /r/Againstgamergate has a much laxer use of that rule than you do.

The rule seems kind of pointless when anyone arguing against in KiA gets downvoted into oblivion anyway. Let the upvotes and community decide.

tl:dr stop being fascist nazi SJW assholes and trampling over my freedom of speech.

[–]Nekryyd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Gentle steering.

[–]Barl0weoh god how did this get here I am not good with computers [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I hate Godwin'ing threads, but this just continues to be so goddamn relevant.

KotakuInAction has an image problem. Each time they poo-poo someone getting doxxed or threatened for daring to disagree with them, they add to that. Until they fix that image problem (as if, lol), they'll continue to get banned from other subreddits for it, and they'll continue to be made fun of.

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Creating a disparaging image of a group is part of how persecution works. You drag their image through the mud and make people afraid to associate with them. Its how McCarthyism worked. Its really not anything new.

Holy. Fucking. Shit. KiA literally has zero ability to introspect, considering how they've been playing "spot the commie" for the last year or so.

[–]SheWhoReturned [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

From early on talking about PR and "tone-policing" was very discouraged in Gamergate circles, this is the end result where the anti-progressive crowds get the focus because of the awful shit they do.

[–]Barl0weoh god how did this get here I am not good with computers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's also why they have to do the whole "it isn't actually about ethics, you guize" song and dance now. Because the actions of that group continue to prove they don't know jack about what ethical behavior is.

[–]LeverArchFile [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

I am not a smart man.

[–]613codyrex [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Your intelligence is not the problem.

It's the other people's intelligence in KIA that is the real problem.

[–]Barl0weoh god how did this get here I am not good with computers [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Hey, you tried. That's certainly more patience with KiA posters than I'd ever have.

[–]LeverArchFile [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I feel like my first few posts were needlessly standoffish and poor b8. That mod was right, I was totally not there in good faith. I tried to actually start debating after the warning.

[–]pissbum-emeritus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Once you know what they're all about, trying to 'debate' with those magpies is like stepping in dog shit on purpose.

[–]plecko_fishpbuf (peace be upon the fempire) [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I had to strain to stick to the np tag and not defend you. The level of logicTM in that chain was aggravating.

[–]OnionNo [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Pft, smart, who needs it, you meme with the best kiddo : ^ )

[–]marat_deserved_it [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"we should get the same protections as persecuted minorities. Also, minorities aren't persecuted."

[–]cdstephensMore than you'd think, but less than you'd hope [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

TIL having a disagreement is arguing in bad faith.

[–]Hazachu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

KiA complains about SRS's "disagree=ban" policy, but rule 3 is simply a laxer version of that. KiA cries censorship all the time but its alright when they do it.

[–]Felinomancy [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Why not? It's a fact that the persecution of ethical game journalists is endemic in the West. Remember when SJWs burned a giant upper-case "T" in front of KiAers?

[–]blahdenfreude"No one gives a shit how above everything you are." C. Hardwick [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I thought it was a lower-case "t". For "time to go".

[–]Felinomancy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, SJWs may be completely unethical game journalists, but they also respect copyright. I think lower-case "t" is already trademarked by a group of ghosts.

[–]TheEmbernova [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

it was a "T" for "TETHICS IN VIDEO GAME JOURNALISM"

[–]sqectre [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Is anything ever going to actually develop with this gamergate thing? It had all this momentum at first and I thought for sure that they would- despite being a fundamentally nebulous movement with no agreed upon goals that can't even really - actually have a couple of leaders or spokespeople that would make utter fools of themselves on a national stage.

I keep waiting and waiting for them to actually do something other than bitch and moan on the internet, screaming about oppression with a victim complex that rivals any real bonafide SJW that may exist. Is something ever actually going to happen? Is their movement ever going to, you know, move?

[–]Statoke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think you answered you own question there.

[–]6890 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think we already know the answer to that.

It wasn't too long ago they used it as a platform to discuss how /r/fitness was oppressing them for not allowing BroscienceLife videos to be posted. In any stretch of the imagination does this have any tangental relation to gaming? Gaming Journalism? God no. But that's valid content there now because when they fail to make any progress on their original goals they better widen the goalposts so they can make up victories in broad senseless strifes that literally only they care about.

[–]andrew2209Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

GamerGate is a good example of why starting a movement with no requirement to join, and no leader ends badly.

[–]Archchancellor [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I keep waiting and waiting for them to actually do something other than bitch and moan on the internet, screaming about oppression with a victim complex that rivals any real bonafide SJW that may exist.

Did you pack a lunch?

Do you wanna trade my Combos for that oatmeal creme pie?

[–]sqectre [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

there is no way in hell I'm giving up my oatmeal creampie for Combos. I'm disturbed you even suggested that trade.

[–]Archchancellor [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Dude they're nacho cheese pretzel. Don't front like they aren't the shit. You don't even have the big oatmeal creme pie. You got the one out of the ten pack.

[–]sqectre [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

You hosed me last week when you said you'd give me a whole pack of oreos for my oatmeal cream pie and then you gave me a FOUR PACK that WASN'T EVEN DOUBLESTUF. Who doesn't buy doublestuf? I thought that was illegal!

You're not getting me again Chancellor.

[–]Archchancellor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

FINE, enjoy your crappy oatmeal creme pie! I didn't really want it anyway!

[–]OmegaBlue0231 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

WTF? That's not a fair trade for you at all! You should at least try to get some Gushers or Dunkaroos out of the trade.

[–]superslab [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My comment wasnt the "end all be all" of my argument. It was mearly a starting point for a discussion. What is morally acceptable behavior? Is excluding people from an internet forum morally acceptable? On what basis?

Uh. Are these real questions?

[–]Oo_deliciosa [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If KIA isn't a hate sub, then what's with all the hate?

[–]kubrick66Super Jolly Whiteguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Are subreddit subscribers a protected class now?

[–]ttumblrbots [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

doooooogs: 1, 2 (seizure warning); 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8; if i miss a post please PM me

[–]signet6 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It is kind of stupid to ban people from a subreddit because they posted in another subreddit, let's be honest, the title is obviously biased, as they're not saying they should get the same protections of those groups IRL, just that posting in a subreddit that's fairly moderate by reddit standards (let's be honest it's not exactly r/coontown5 is it?) shouldn't get you banned from a subreddit saying it welcomes all.

[–]andrew2209Sorry, I'm not from Swindon. [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think the admins haven't helped mods, so some of them have resorted to mass bans. Mods need better tools to deal with harassment and brigades, if anyone really cared, they'll just create mods. One of the mods in question has been targeted by Voat brigades.