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[–]Flytape 22ポイント23ポイント  (16子コメント)

Wow its nice to see a comprehensive 9-11 post that isn't bothered with subgroup politics.

[–]Greg_Roberts_0985 8ポイント9ポイント  (14子コメント)

It is nice to see that you can actually reply in a 9/11 thread, without having to resort to outright falsehoods, absolute pure outlandish lies and victim blaming.

Ask me for a source if you like.

[–]Flytape 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

Do you work for AE911?

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    [–]Flytape[M] 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I think you need to settle down, rule 10.

    [–]NateY3K 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    now I'm curious as to what was said

    [–]IronBallsMiginty 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Ya man you can't leave it like that...

    [–]sheasie -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    the question implied that the efforts were a result of some kind of paid shillary. honestly, i would have snapped too. clearly a lot of blood, sweat and tears went into this post. best I have seen since:

    http://www.consensus911.org/

    Somehow those two entities should compare notes. Both very impressive examples how how the internet is delivering the information revolution it once advertised.

    long live the internets!

    [–]Flytape -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The person who was warned was not the person who I asked the question to.

    The person I asked the question to made a valid response and answered the question.

    [–]Greg_Roberts_0985 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

    No.

    [–]Flytape 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    A lot of people are probably under the impression that you are "the" Gregg Roberts from ae911truth. That's why I asked.

    [–]Greg_Roberts_0985 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Them very same people would then have to also assume that i can not spell my name correctly.

    [–]Flytape 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Another theory would be that, given your close proximity to all things 9-11, you enjoy the "celebrity?" that is bestowed upon you by those assumptions.

    Which is why I just ask people directly, if you had said "yes I'm THE Gregg Roberts." Then it would have made a lot more sense to me, why I received such an animated response to the article I posted that was critical of ae911.

    [–]Greg_Roberts_0985 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    you enjoy the "celebrity?" that is bestowed upon you by those assumptions

    Who are these people that assume that? You are the only person who has ever (to my knowledge) made this assumption, otherwise source me your claim...

    • I have a different first name

    • I have different pigment skin color

    • I have vastly different qualifications

    • I live in NYC

    etc etc

    Weak theory.

    [–]wee_knee 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Much easier:

    Silverstein had some buildings that he couldn't rent, that were poorly built, and he couldn't get a permit to get rid of (even sort of tried once before, though that wasn't him).

    Bush has direct monetary ties to the Saudis through his father - oil related.

    The Saudis tell Bush to take out Iraq's production because "he's rogue".

    Bush family, friends with Silverstein, think up plan to get rid of buildings (can't get demolition permit - would raise too much dust - okay to dismantle them but would cost billions) and blame it on someone (Iraq) to start war.

    Cheney finds old national security scenario where jet liners fly into buildings and knock them down. Looks good, plan in motion.

    Bush/Cheney has Blackwater wire the buildings for demolition. Blackwater has ties to Bush family.

    Bush/Cheney embezzle a couple billion dollars from DoD funds - pentagon notices, starts audit. Some of money used to buy drone aircraft, tomahawk cruise missile, other "stuff". Lots of money goes into their pockets.

    you can sort of fill in the blanks because this is boring now

    Jets fly into buildings, "jet" flies into pentagon (hitting DoD audit section), "jet" falls from sky crashes in field, "who's to blame?" blame game happens, Laden's boys pointed at, "not us" they said, U.S. attacks Iraq - knocks out oil production and kills "rogue" president, Silverstein not only doesn't have to pay billions to take down his buildings - he gets it done free - he get's them cleaned up for free - he gets insurance money to cover loss! (nice job, Silverstein!). All the black op blackwater guys disappear (dead, gone, and forgotten). Bush/Cheney get their war, Cheney rakes in gobs of money via Halliburton and "other" revenue streams, Bush/Cheney/Bush Sr get nice payoff when 'shrub' leaves office (10 billion I think)(maybe more).

    Oh, and the "defense industry" now has the U.S. embroiled in at least two conflicts and are selling munitions and equipment as fast as they can make it.

    All in all, a very profitable eight years for some of the biggest assholes on the planet.

    And for what?

    Greed.

    [–]SeriousOrJoking 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Why wouldn't they just wire for detonation and blow up buildings and be done with it. Why add in the whole plane scenario. I mean, someone tried with bombs in the 90's why not do it again?

    [–]GoldenTruth 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The imagery of those planes hitting the towers is something we will NEVER forget. Literally. They played it over and over and over again.

    A bomb exploding would not have had the same psychological impact.

    [–]wee_knee 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Because if no one attacked the U.S., the U.S. wouldn't have anyone to go to war with.

    [–]MindlessRationality 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Planes also give reason to crack down on the main method of transportation between countries. This can prevent people seeking asylum, getting word out, and other such issues. Also gives reason to stop people from doing it against them.

    [–]Sjwpoet 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Because if it were called a controlled demolition publicly, the obvious question is how did terrorists get access to wire it. It wouldn't be possible. Planes provide cover.

    What isn't mentioned, is that the WTCs, particularly 7, housed a lot of records that could have thrown thousands of wall street oligarchs in jail. There was also thousands of tonnes of gold held under the WTCs that simply disappeared, poof.

    [–]Ares_Boar 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The greatest robbery in history...

    [–]metabolix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Wow I can imagine this.

    [–]basedongods 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What isn't mentioned, is that the WTCs, particularly 7, housed a lot of records that could have thrown thousands of wall street oligarchs in jail. There was also thousands of tonnes of gold held under the WTCs that simply disappeared, poof.

    Source, source, source, please and thank you (: .

    [–]Sjwpoet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Google is your ally in seeking information. Two seconds of effort:

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/010917nylawyerwallstreetsecfiles

    The direct and indirect benefits for the oligarchs that run not just the US, but the western world, including the world's financial system, of 9/11 are too many to count. For an oligarchs power, monetary control, and US hegemony, 9/11 was the greatest thing to ever happen in history. For the people both in the US, and in the Muslim 'terrorist' camps, it's literally been the worst thing to ever happen to them in terms of the costs.

    [–]davidtoni -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    9/11 was almost positively planned loooong before Bush was president or Lucky Larry bought the buildings. The Israelis probably planned it out while the towers were being built in fact.

    Read ex-Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky's book "By Way of Deception." He says that mostly every major piece of infrastructure in the Arab world built since the early 70s has bombs hidden inside them by Mossad.

    [–]denmaradi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The Pentagon forensics and rebuid contract was given to AMEC , whose board members are also members of french Spie(started by James De Rothschild), Halliburton and SG Warburg.

    [–]southwestont 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "You have to consider the ethnic backgroud of Chomsky and Zinn to understand why they respond to 9/11 as they did" -muahahahahahahahahahaha

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      [–]infinity_QE 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I can only conclude from all this evidence that Building 7 fell due to peer pressure (everyone else is falling).

      [–]Akareyon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      What a comment to read to the scent of the first morning coffee, thanks for the laugh :)

      [–]DishonestCartooNIST 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      /s

      Don't give the 9/11 Faith Movement any ideas.

      [–]SovereignMan[M] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Rules 2 & 10. Removed.

      [–]Top_FP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      we should do something about this soon

      [–]Orangutan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      FACTS regarding 9/11

      "As the 14th anniversary of 9/11 approaches, it’s important to remind people that we still don’t know what happened that day. What is known about 9/11 is that there are many incredible facts that continue to be ignored by the government and the mainstream media. Here are fourteen." And more...

      [–]controlled-demo-wtc 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      How 9/11 was done, written in 2008, conveniently leaves out all mention of Newton's laws of motion in the controlled demolitions of WTC1 and WTC2

      Would you care to rectify that situation with this link:

      https://www.youtube.com/user/DavidChandler911

      [–]nthroop1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I agree with everything on here except the notion of the phone calls from the plane. At no point does the author mention the fact that these Boeing planes were equipped with Airphones which were completely capable of making phone calls. Yes the FBI changed there story from 35 calls to 2 calls but that was referring to the amount of cell usage. M I RIGHT??

      [–]manlydishwasher 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      2,000 years from today, what will be believed by the masses as to how&why 9/11 happened, vs. what actually did happen (no one really knows the truth to this, sorry OP), will be two entirely different things.

      Just like the Bible.

      [–]goy_protein_isolate -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Another telling of 9/11 if you're into this sort of fan fiction.

      http://pastebin.com/yCwrSNEL

      [–]austincherney 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This is how 9/11 was done; via plausibly deniable proxy.

      http://wideshut.co.uk/gladio-b-the-origins-of-natos-secret-islamic-terrorist-proxies/

      There was no WTC demolition. There would be no point to bother with one once the shock and 'awe' of a terrorist attack on American soil had already been achieved upon plane impact into the towers.

      There were actual hijacked planes used during the attacks. They weren't missiles or holograms, or whatever...

      [–]liverpoolwin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Excellent idea to sticky this, well done!

      [–]Orangutan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      9/11 Commission Investigation:

      • Thomas H. Kean, Chairman of the 9/11 Commission: "FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue... We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us... It was just so far from the truth."

      • Lee Hamilton, Vice Chairman of the 9/11 Commission: "We got started late; We had a very short time frame... We did not have enough money... We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail."

      Dick Cheney told Tom Daschle not to investigate.

      When Daschle appeared on NBC's Meet the Press on May 26, 2002, he said that on January 24 that year, Dick Cheney had urged him not to investigate the events of September 11. Daschle said that on January 28, President Bush made the same request. When Tim Russert asked him, “It wasn’t, ‘Let’s not have a national commission, but let’s have the intelligence committees look into this,’ it was ‘No investigation by anyone, period’?” Daschle replied, “That’s correct.” Daschle added that the request was made again on “other dates following.”

      Anthrax sent to top democrats Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy

      Henry Kissinger appointed to lead the initial investigation after over a year of delay.

      9/11: Press for Truth - The Jersey Girls

      The Anniversary of 9/11

      "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories" - President George W. Bush to the United Nations - November 10, 2001

      [–]Orangutan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Operation Northwoods ~ 1962 - wiki

      9/11: A Conspiracy Theory ~ by James Corbett with almost 3 million views at this address

      Solving the Mystery of WTC Building 7 ~ removed by YouTube after over 1.5 million views

      9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out ~ 1 hour version over 1/2 a million views

      [–]SpaceTire -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sorry, I didnt read thru your post. But did you cover the part where the WTC buildings where completely filled with asbestos and it was going to cost MILLIONS upon millions to replace it with non cancerous material? Filled under: depreciating asset.