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BTCROW.com and cstoreav7i44h2lr.onion joint scam (self.Bitcoin)

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Do not trust these thieves, I attempted to purchase a phone from cstore and from the outset they looked legitimate. They offered to use any offshore escrow and btcrow if possible. I decided try btcrow since they're the most well known and they told me they don't deal with hidden services.

"We are subject to the laws of Australia, and do not accept potentially illegal services or goods obtained illegally. The user "cstore@tormail.pw" has more than 220 successful transactions in our system with only three disputes. But we know their darknet related services and are no longer accepted in our platform.

You can use any other escrow service (Asia or Central America based) that accepts such transactions. We are supervised by the authorities regarding such transactions."

Reading this I thought cstore must be legit with that many successful transactions.

Long story short now after I sent my money the cstore has stopped replying to emails and btcrow are ignoring me they've run off with my money.

DO NOT TRUST BTCROW!

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[–]starsoccer9 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

As I try to tell other people, Time does not equal trust. Meaning just because a site, or company has been around for 2, 3, or even 4 years does not mean they are trustworthy.

[–]-Hegemon- 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Exactly, maybe that was their plan all along, the mythical long-con.

[–]sgornick 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

they told me they don't deal with hidden services.

When did they say this ... before giving you a Bitcoin address to pay, or only after ... once you had a dispute.

So the normal escrow process is

  • 1.) you fill out escrow partner form and send funds to the Bitcoin address provided
  • 2.) escrow partner notifies seller that the funds are secured,
  • 3.) seller ships item,
  • 4.) buyer notifies escrow (BTCrow) to release funds.

Now they knew the e-mail (cstore@tormail.pw, assuming that's what you used when creating the escrow transaction) when you created the transaction before sending the money. They should not have given a Bitcoin address for you to pay (in step #1), or after you paid they should not have done step #2 (notify seller that funds are secured) if they do not actually perform escrow for such a seller.

[–]jerguismi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you understood it wrong. BTCcrow wasn't part of this transaction at all, they only said that he should use another escrow service. However this idiot apparently sent the money to the darknet service without escrow, and now claims that BTCROW is somehow responsible for his stupidity.

And even more, this cstore shop is some stolen goods site, so apparently OP is criminal. And a stupid one as well. LOL

[–]jerguismi 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

What the fuck? BTCrow didn't say that you should send money to cstore without an escrow. You can't claim that this is btcrow's fault. It is only your own stupidity, sending btc to darknet service without escrow.

geez...

[–]zee4da[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

By saying this "The user "cstore@tormail.pw" has more than 220 successful transactions in our system with only three disputes." This creates legitimacy as if they're recommending the cstore. Coming from such a well known service it makes it difficult to not believe them. This in itself proves they're working together otherwise why say that in the first place?

[–]jerguismi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This in itself proves they're working together

No it doesn't not prove anything.

why say that in the first place?

Well, because BTCROW guys are probably stupid. However providing that kind of information isn't recommending the service. They literally said in the same email that you should use another escrow service. They didn't recommend sending the btc without escrow.

It might bet that BTCROW is a selective scammer, whatever. However your story doesn't prove that.