I couldn't decide on one comment to link to because there's so much here that's fucking gold, so here are some highlights.
This post in PPD discusses the fact that women were historically regarded as the sex with the higher sex drive -- an attitude that didn't change until the 19th century. So, OP asks, is it true that women want sex more than men?
As usual, TRPs show that they have no idea what they're talking about.
Given social science findings on hypergamy in women... And specifically the indication that the higher the level of inequality, the more women are hypergamic... It may well be that the top 1% of men by wealth who were commissioning/writing these works did indeed experience insatiable female desire for sex.
They'd be the healthiest, tallest and strongest men too (because nutrition mattered back then) as well as the richest, most confident and most dominant due to the high status of their position. I bet the Greek bitches be loving it.
Of course, it was only Teh Alphas that made women want sex. Women don't want sex in and of itself; they just crave that alpha dick! (This is a theme we'll revisit several times.)
We act. Talking is optional. If there is an issue, we discuss, but to be honest in my experience women prefer if it is not necessary.
Discussing your desires with your sexual partner is a turn off. Just shove your dick in there and hope for the best.
I've found that most women don't want to have sex with the men who are willing to "deal with" "intimacy, knowing your partners body, talking beforehand what you like and don't like".
Again, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you use your words to discuss your desires with your partner!
Maybe it's not the "obvious answer" because men hear growing up "being nice is sexually attractive! Women who like great looking confident assholes are stupid/slutty/broken/damaged/mentally ill!"
Of course, it wouldn't be a debate in PPD if it didn't eventually revert back to NOTHING IS MEN'S FAULT BECAUSE TEH WIMMIN ARE LIARZ!!!!1
Reporting what women say, rather than what they do. Completely useless, as has been shown time and time again. Female self-reported data is wholly useless when it comes to something that threatens her self-worth.
Never believe a woman who tells you what she wants in bed.
A man could be bad at sex, but if he were attractive, I'm sure you'd be more willing to come back to him than to an ugly man who is better at sex.
I can't even snark about this one. It's literally the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
Women constantly tell us men that being kind, good, intimate, knowing a woman's body and being willing to take the time--these things are sexually attractive and are of paramount value to women.
Apparently they were not, since you didn't fight to keep him.
(In response to /u/belletaco saying she used to date an ugly guy who was great in bed, but they eventually broke up.)
Of course if you don't "fight" to keep someone who breaks up with you (what does that even mean???) then you just proved TRP. Checkmate bloops!!!!
But if he was so awesome in the sack and could make you cum (which we're told is of paramount importance to women sexually), then why didn't you want him?
Same commenter directing this question to a different user. I love the sarcastic parenthetical implying that he doesn't believe orgasms are important to women.
I've found that how attracted a woman is to you is directly correlated to whether she has orgasms with you. If a girl doesn't really respect you, it'll stay dry no matter how long you spend or work at it. Meanwhile if she's lusting after you, you can keep her eyes in the back of her head even if you're just going for 5 minutes trying to get off and leave.
I just... no. No, that's not true at all.
And, really, I think that kind of goes to prove that women really don't want sex more than men. Women want sex but it also comes with this huge level of unrealistic expectations, caveats and entitlements.
Apparently having an orgasm, or at least enjoyable sex, is an "unrealistic expectation."
As a guy who has literally been on both ends, no, he's dead accurate. You've intimately known only one woman. I've known dozens. I used to think women simply didn't like sex, but that's because they didn't want to have it with me.
Gee, I wonder why.
Most of the misconception stems from the reality that, from a woman's perspective, most men (including many husbands, unfortunately) are not attractive enough for sex to be enjoyable for them. So women's "effective sex drive" vis-a-vis most men is quite low, given that they find most men unattractive for sex. With a man who is attractive for sex, the female libido is quite high, and even more so during the fertile phase of the month.
The thing about this line of reasoning is that it's almost right. Yes, women don't want sex with just anyone; they want sex with someone they're into, who puts in the effort to make it a satisfying experience. The problem is that they think "attractive" is some objective quality that you either have or don't, and in doing so they absolve themselves of any responsibility. It has nothing to do with their skill or attentiveness in bed, you see. She's just not attracted to me. What's a guy to do?
The top post right now perfectly validates this. "GOOD sex. If men were good at sex I think more women would be willing"
Very, very obvious she's referring to men who are attractive enough, i.e. top 20%. Men simply aren't like that. Top 50% or so is often good enough.
Same song, second verse.
She's implying technique, but that's just hamstering. There are studies that have shown that women orgasm more with richer men. "Being good at sex" is post-hoc rationalization for "being attractive in the first place"
You heard it here first, guys: there's no such thing as being good in bed. That's just "hamstering."
Then there's this whole wall-of-text comment. (tl;dr women just want sex with Chad.)
Annnnd of course there's the guy trying to mansplain multiple orgasms to a woman, because of course there is.
I have no words.
Shout out to /u/belletaco and /u/FallingSnowAngel for being the voices of sanity amongst so much absolute bullshit.
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