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[–]Jin Air Green WingsKattelox 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What kind of new content do you think should be getting upvotes and aren't? I've been making shitty videos lately and submitting them, and some of them have done alright even without having a check.

I actually browse new a lot, and I can tell you it only takes a few upvotes to get to the front page of r/starcraft, there just isn't a lot of content posted daily. (Trying to help fix that)

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can get in top 10 on most days that don't have tournaments running with about 20 or so upvotes, not hard to do.

[–]Western WolvesLycangrope 6ポイント7ポイント  (57子コメント)

Yeah, it's all the check marks. Totally has nothing to do with the content. Also, that screen shot is almost a week old. Have you tried to post this multiple times or did you save it for a rainy day?

[–]JaegerSC 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Case closed, lycan check mark, and highest comment in this thread.

You're only where you're at because of your check mark lycan! /s

[–]mYinsanitybreath20 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are so right, its all about the check mark who cares about the content we can throw anything up and it will be on page 1 :)

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Within reason, what you just said is mostly accurate.

[–]mYinsanitybreath20 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

I was kidding :) , its about the content the check mark does very little from my experience.

[–]Gama Bearstaomcdohl 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually not that surprising. By nature, people look for sources of authority. The SC2 scene is not so different. For example: if a Master league player posts a new strategy, he'll receive a more valued look than if a bronze league player posts the same exact new strategy.

The same is true for any social environment where a source of authority is easily identified. People are more willing to agree with and upvote. Of course, there is a correlation between quality content and the source of authority; that individual came to that position because of prior work. That said, society often defaults to said sources automatically.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

We should experiment, post the same thing under your name and a breath202, and see which one does better.

[–]mYinsanitybreath20 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Name means nothing, its also against reddit terms to have multiple accounts. People have posted my content and it goes just as well is if i post it. I have noticed it has more to do with the time of day and also other content being posted at the time.

[–]Protossdavidjayhawk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not against reddit terms to have multiple accounts. You just can't try to use them to manipulate votes.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (46子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/sQBQWvs.png

You think it has no effect?

[–]AxiomFalconX88 1ポイント2ポイント  (33子コメント)

There are more upvotes for posts from people with no checkmark than with one...

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (32子コメント)

There are more people without check marks than there are people with one...

[–]AxiomFalconX88 1ポイント2ポイント  (18子コメント)

But do they post? And do they post the same quality posts?

Right now there are 19 posts from people without checkmark on r/SC frontpage and 6 with, while on the new page there are 21 from people without checkmarks, and 4 with and if you sort by "TOP" there are 5 with checkmark and 20 without. That's not a significant difference...

Maybe salty because tricking people to think you are feardragon doesn't work that well because of those?

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (17子コメント)

You should be salty, you produce great content all the time but without a check mark it rarely ever reaches out from the gutters.

[–]AxiomFalconX88 -1ポイント0ポイント  (16子コメント)

I produce great content? I never produced anything SC related...

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (15子コメント)

Never mind, it is a different Falcon, just another nameless unchecked content creator.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCB73iJpB6hhq99IOM4aqX_Q

[–]AxiomFalconX88 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

dude, stop whining, take part in a statistics course, and either get a checkmark (wich will be difficult if you try to use someone else name) or deal with it.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Have you not been listening, I don't want to have a checkmark and there has to be a better way for SC Reddit to then a glowing sign always denoting correctness. The fact that you are saying I should get one or deal with it means you agree it has some amount of influence on a site where the best content is supposed to rise irrespective of the poster.

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

People have to submit to the mods who then make the decision, mods don't just pick people most of the time, people need to submit themselves. If FalconPaladin submitted himself I'd wager he'd get a check mark with how many videos he puts out.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guarantee you he would be denied.

[–]Axiomfeardragon64 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

People with check marks are more likely to be actively submitting content because they're more likely to produce it & submit it to share. I don't think it's speaking the the "value" of a checkmark. I've seen plenty of checkmark posts get downvoted into oblivion too.

Also, insert irony of someone on a spoof name of mine trying to point out problems with checkmarks, which are originally created so people can distinguish real account from a spoof.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Are you objectively saying the check-mark adds no positive value to the likelihood of your post being up-voted?

[–]Axiomfeardragon64 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

It doesn't have no impact, but it has less of an impact than people give it credit for.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Which is easy enough to say from your perch, the whole purpose of reddit is to let the best content come forward, not to artificially swell the positivity around individual posters.

[–]Axiomfeardragon64 3ポイント4ポイント  (8子コメント)

I got a checkmark less than a year ago. I've been using this subreddit for 3+ years so I think the "perch" isn't biasing me too heavily.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Before the check mark you had 300 karma, now you have 10 000 Karma, seems like it is not very important.

[–]Hong Kong AttitudePlokooon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no check marks fighting !

[–]Western WolvesLycangrope -1ポイント0ポイント  (10子コメント)

Call for community casters from DreamHack is pretty important. My tournament is a great place for people to see some of the LotV experienced pros test out new changes to the game. WCS discussion thread always hits the top because it's the day of the tournament and people want to talk about it/need a reminder of who is playing. Lastly, regardless of the other fungal gif from a non-check mark getting way more upvotes, the DTD gif is pretty sweet and this community likes game play gifs.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Meanwhile, sabres 1000 dollar tournament sits on page 2, wcs threads are released a dime a dozen, bring up the check mark topic on your show, I dare you.

[–]Western WolvesLycangrope -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

People are assholes and shit on anything ASL related because of DingIt. That's the ONLY reason their content does poorly.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

If you believe your check-mark is not a factor, volunteer to give it up.

White knight on a subject that actually affects you for once.

Which I 100% guarantee you will not do, you wont even reply to this.

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You've made a few guarantees in this post that turned out to be wrong.

[–]Western WolvesLycangrope 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sure, I'll reply. I didn't get my check mark until the end of last year. I have been making content that hits the front page since 2013, when I was as unknown as it gets.

Gosu Pizza announcement.

The Late Game Announcement

Stupid joke.

TaeJa Circlejerking

More TaeJa Circlejerking

Picture of empty Red Bull venue

Just a handful of my top posts on SC2 pre-check mark, some of which I struggle to refer to as "content" they're so damn fluffy. Shall we continue this silly argument?

White knight on a subject that actually affects you for once.

Bite me, friend.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you believe your check-mark is not a factor, volunteer to give it up.

I never said people could not reach the front page without it, I am saying it is a contributing factor that greatly increases the odds that it will. You have avoided the actual topic completely, you lack the intelligence to dance around this one, nice try though. Put your rep on the line and talk about the effect of the check mark for even a minute on your show. You fight all these battles, yet can not see the unfair advantage you have.

[–]Western WolvesLycangrope 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am saying it is a contributing factor that greatly increases the odds that it will.

No. If you make a shitty title/post something that people would normally pass up before taking a look, the green check MIGHT make them take a second to look at it. They're not going to automatically upvote a shit post unless it's someone with a huge fan base.

You have avoided the actual topic completely, you lack the intelligence to dance around this one, nice try though.

Yes, because I do this all the time.

Put your rep on the line and talk about the effect of the check mark for even a minute on your show.

You're trying to fabricate this silly image of me stuttering and stammering and avoiding the subject because I'm too afraid to admit the power my check mark has for fear that the community will discuss it, side with you, and the mods will be pressured to remove the check mark, limiting my success and toppling the check-marked few's hold over the un-checked many. Get a grip.

You fight all these battles, yet can not see the unfair advantage you have.

I can check my name, but I can't check my privilege.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am not sure how you would be stuttering and stammering over a messaged conversation in the form of text, even your sidesteps have become nonsensical. If you are going to try maneuvers like this you need to elevate you game. The overall question, does a check mark contribute to the popularity of a post? Pretty simple, the answer would be a yes or a no.

[–]SBENUTheSkunk_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I have no check-mark, and I have a lot more link karma (almost entirely from this sub) then a lot of other people with check-marks. More than the real feardragon64 for example.

. . . Hmm, maybe I should apply for a check-mark.

[–]Gama Bearstaomcdohl 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

A good chunk of people recognize you as an MVP on the SC2 forums. You're like a Sneetch who used to have a star on his belly, but got it removed.

[–]SBENUTheSkunk_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

A good chunk of people recognize you as an MVP on the SC2 forums

But is that a good thing? o.o

I honestly didn't think many people did recognize me as such (unless I link to a thread I make there, like the tournament feedback one) and even if they did, I wasn't sure that would be considered a good thing that led to upvotes for most people.

Great Dr. Suess reference though :)

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I do think the forums and reddit are VERY different enviroments, but the fact you have some measure of respect there is not a bad thing, if Blizzard trusts to your try and corral the forum you must someone of character, I hope.

[–]maxwellsdemon13 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can wave that MVP swag around, if you get a check mark you will be nearly final form, just need to take the next step and reach blue status!

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The same for you, your entire existence on reddit amounts to 10-20 feardragon JPGs.

[–]SBENUTheSkunk_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

ok

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is the feel, you are not even a complete second on a movie frame.

[–]Protossdodelol 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel sad for you, this entire thread is kind of hilarious but mostly sad.

also the skunk is awesome.

[–]Sexsellz 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

The check marks became irrelevant to this sub the day they started to give them out to every idiot with a YouTube account.

[–]Samsung GalaxyAnaltoast[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

I personally have sifted through all the checkmarks and Im about to remove a vast majority of them soon.

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Looking at what you require to get a check it's vague, hard for anyone to know if they deserve one or not.

[–]Samsung GalaxyAnaltoast 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

In order to receive a green approval check mark to the right of your user name on /r/starcraft, you must be a professional gamer (PG), caster/commentator (CC), or industry insider (II). To qualify you or your organization must also be active within the /r/starcraft community as well as well-known and notable within the wider StarCraft community.

We are trying to be more strict now. Plus, like I said, I am personally removing a lot of the green checks. I already have a list, just need the time to edit the CCS

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea that's the one, I fit that category but haven't submitted due to uncertainty and probably won't now with the impending purge haha. Much of what you mods do is shrouded in secret, lurking the shadows so we sometimes feel a bit curious, thanks.

[–]Samsung GalaxyAnaltoast 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you ever have a question just message the mods. There's usually one of us online :)

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

And yet they are still here, they mattered when they were for relevant pros who actually had an idea on how to play the game. So you knew that guy had information that could be trusted. Sad.

[–]TyLooDefault1355 -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

well its not the people with the checkmark's fault they have one, is it?

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I do not think it is either, the whole system needs to be reworked so that the best content rises naturally.

[–]TerranBluezephr 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Or we can stop freaking out about non-issues when there's extremely little interesting content to work with at this point anyways.

[–]TyLooDefault1355 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

got a point, gaem is ded

[–]TerranBluezephr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

game is fine, still a non-issue.

[–]TyLooDefault1355 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ノ(ಠ_ಠノ )LOWER YOUR DED GAEMS ノ(ಠ_ಠノ)

[–]RandomTatyGG 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

My posts do well and I didn't have a check mark last time I checked ^. It's just about producing content that people like to view.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have 3000 karma, that is like a few days worth of interesting facts by fear dragon, are you saying your entire collection of posts are worth the same as 5 feardragon JPGs?

[–]Zergded_no_aliev -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feardragoon46 is the beacon of hope this community needs but doesn't deserve

[–]TerranBluezephr -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Of course check marks will inflate upvotes, but honestly, does it matter? /r/starcraft is pretty fuckin' barren as is, It's not like there's a ton of engaging exciting posts that there are to discuss.

Most of the time, checkmark started threads are by people who have been working really hard to create content or contribute to the community. Yes, its not 100% fair in that they will probably be upvoted more than a regular poster most likely, but no system is perfect, and the world is not 100% fair.

[–]Feardragoon46[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

So the answer to having no content is to create a barrier for new creators by artificially increasing the posts popularity of the existing creators?

[–]TerranBluezephr 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you honestly believe there is a barrier right now? That there's a new content creator who's in the shadows and trying to get to the front page of /r/starcraft but can't because people with checkmarks are filling up the front page?

[–]maxwellsdemon13 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was thinking same thing, would love examples of what he's talking about.