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[–]Wizard_of_Ozymandias 320ポイント321ポイント  (117子コメント)

5-10% of 1.6 Billion Muslims?

That's 80-160 million extremists.

[–]Occams_Lazor_ 115ポイント116ポイント  (59子コメント)

I've heard there are 25% Islamists; that's including fundamentalists who, while don't openly commit violence in the form of warfare, are incredibly backwards on women's rights, LGBT rights, not-Muslim rights, etc.

[–]Dolden 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think they belong in the west either.

[–]Mountainous_Dew 29ポイント30ポイント  (33子コメント)

[–]USBdancer 108ポイント109ポイント  (9子コメント)

Well over 80% of Muslims in several countries support stoning people to death for sex outside of marriage, chopping people's hands off for theft, and killing people for leaving islam (apostasy).

I would say that the Nazi comparison is fair.

[–]mr_munnin 8ポイント9ポイント  (14子コメント)

List of journalist rags I trust more than Breitbart: MSNBC (opinion pieces bad, actual reporting seems to be on point), Fox (opinion pieces bad, actual reporting seems to be on point), The Guardian, Huffington Post, and lastly Vox.

List of journalist rags I trust less than Breitbart: Gawker Media.

[–]Mountainous_Dew 28ポイント29ポイント  (4子コメント)

It sourced what it claimed, if you can find issues with the sources please do. And it's claims seem in line with sourced stats others are posting here, such as this: http://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3idwwc/curt_schilling_suspended_by_espn_after_tweet/cufmbgz

[–]mr_munnin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sweet, I usually avoid trying to give BB clicks. I'll check it out then. Hopefully nothing is misrepresented or taken out of context.

[–]WilBeCoding 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I trust finger painting weekly more than breitbart. It's common knowledge brietbart is infotaintment. Might as well reference the onion

[–]duston12 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Tell me you didn't just site Breitbart as a source of information.

[–]alderaan_never4get [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I guess this all really depends on the definition of "extremists." If we're talking about those who commit violence and terrorism, then it's closer to 10%. If we're talking about those with strict traditional values, then we're talking a bigger piece of pie.

[–]enderandrew42 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

I assume they're going off polls of what percentage supports certain fundamentalist views. Judging from that context it could be even higher. I've seen plenty of polls where the majority of Muslims polled have supported extreme, and sometimes violent topics, such as when a British teacher was arrested for allowing her class to name a teddy bear Mohammed. She let the kids pick the name. She didn't even do anything wrong.

And the majority of Muslims polled believed she should be executed over that. Would that qualify them as extremists?

I think in the famous Bill Maher/Ben Affleck spat, Maher was saying by beliefs it was closer to 30% of all Muslims were extremists.

Who knows?

I'm not saying billions of people are evil. I don't believe that, but I'm saying these polls may provide a context for where these numbers might be coming from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_teddy_bear_blasphemy_case

[–]deimosusn 29ポイント30ポイント  (47子コメント)

How are they defining extremist in this context?

I'm not sure how any of this even makes sense. It almost seems more like he's comparing Muslims to Germans, not Nazis. It wasn't a very smart move on his part either way, though. He deleted the tweet within minutes, but I guess he wasn't quick enough.

When people get fired for using the word "niggardly" you kind of have to expect this sort of reaction.

[–]Augusto_Franco 49ポイント50ポイント  (37子コメント)

How are they defining extremist in this context?

Most Muslims hold views that westerners would consider extremist

85% [of Muslim youths] say they will raise their children in the Muslim faith. This in itself would not be a bad thing (on the contrary), except for the fact that 48% of Antwerp’s Muslim youths are convinced that the Quran should be taken literally and 21% readily admit that they have already heard their imam preach a hate sermon

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/551

More than a third [of Turkish Germans] insisted that if it serves the Islamic community, they are ready to use violence against nonbelievers. Almost 40 percent said that Zionism, the European Union and the United States threaten Islam.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/14/opinion/edshore.php

Sunni Muslim terrorists committed “about 70 percent” of the 12,533 terrorist murders in the world last year, according to a report by the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC).

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-muslim-extremists-committed-70-terrorist-murders-2011&date=2012-08-04

“None of the 500 British Muslims interviewed believed that homosexual acts were morally acceptable.

51 per cent agree that a Muslim woman may not marry a non‐Muslim, 61 per cent think homo‐sexuality should be made illegal

Almost 60 per cent reject homosexuals as friends and 45 per cent think that Jews cannot be trusted

A quarter of [Muslim] students said men and women were not equal in the eyes of Allah and seven per cent were not sure, with more women than men feeling unequal.

The scary reality is that only three percent of British Muslims "took a consistently pro-freedom of speech line on these questions.

[–]Fuzzyphilosopher 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

48% of Antwerp’s Muslim youths are convinced that the Quran should be taken literally and 21% readily admit that they have already heard their imam preach a hate sermon

We just had Christian Ministers "laying on of hands" while praying for someone running for mayor of Nashville here in the good o'le USA. Pretty sure more than 47% of our TN locals would say the Bible should be read literally. Nationally it's only 28% though. So we obviously have the high ground on Muslims who mostly live in developing or hopeless countries with even worse education systems than Mississippi!

According to a Gallup poll conducted in May, a solid twenty-eight percent of Americans believe that the Bible is the literal word of God and should be interpreted accordingly.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/04/americans-bible-word-of-god_n_5446979.html

[–]I_dont_have_a_waifu [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I think a pretty big difference between reading the Bible literally and the Quran literally is that the Bible doesn't can for killing non believers while the Quran does.

[–]Forward__Momentum [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not a biblical scholar by any means, but a quick google search reveals this (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2013:6-10) in the old testament, which seems to advocate killing nonbelievers fairly unambiguously. This (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+19:27) from the new testament seems equally unambiguous, but a little more googling around suggests that it could refer to divine judgment, rather than being directed at Christians. Anyway, but what I'm getting at is that an average person interpreting the Bible could easily come away with the conclusion 'The Bible says I should kill non believers'.

[–]EctoplasmTourniquet 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

any muslim that says "death to america" is an extremist

[–]Crunkbutter [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, there are a lot of people in the world, aren't there?

[–]mrthewhite 98ポイント99ポイント  (5子コメント)

Isn't he actually comparing Muslims to Germans?

[–]Nevermore60 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

Found the guy who understands analogies.

[–]fkinusername [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know. This is offensive to Nazis. They only killed 6 million Jews.

[–]MisterBadIdea2 66ポイント67ポイント  (10子コメント)

For what it's worth, there's a thread on r/badhistory debunking the "7% of Germans were Nazis" statistic here. tl;dr: Nazi support and official Nazi party membership are completely different things.

[–]lumloon 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's a great point. Doing in-depth analyses of nuances of statistics is very important

[–]Meatmehalfway [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Nuance. There's something reddit hasn't learned yet.

[–]DRLavigne 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

Just like Islamic extremists and Islamic extremist support are completely different things?

[–]MisterBadIdea2 12ポイント13ポイント  (5子コメント)

Islamic extremists and Islamic extremist support are completely different things.

Are they? I think they're pretty much the same thing.

I mean, you could be a Nazi supporter without being an official member because Nazism was an official political party. "Islamic extremism" isn't a political party; if you support Islamic extremism, bam, you're an extremist.

[–]rantingmute 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're getting caught up in the word extremist. A far greater number of Muslims than what we would call "extremists" support them in various shades. Just like a greater number of Germans supported the Nazi party than just the membership.

Someone willing to actually act upon extremism and another person that condones it are not, in fact, the same thing.

[–]DRLavigne 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

They're not the same thing. I can be a supporter of people who carry out jihad and contribute to radical terrorism or I can be a jihadi. Just like I can support Nazis or I can be one. It doesn't need to be a political group. Nazism was as much of an ideology as radical Islam is an ideology. The only difference being that Nazis came to power through government while Islamists come to power through religion.

Easterners and Westerners just have different societies, with different principals, and different ways of attaining power.

[–]ChocolateSausage 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lulz, he forgot to add "Inside sources say," then ESPN would have definitely gone with it

[–]Nevermore60 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technically, he was comparing Muslims to Germans, and Islamic extremists to Nazis. Not Muslims to Nazis.

[–]Englicious 41ポイント42ポイント  (2子コメント)

He should have a "Schilling's Chilling Thought of the Day".

[–]glhavebacon 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Top billing: Schilling's chilling, thrilling spilling of his thoughts

[–]wschneider 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's quite fulfilling

[–]doctorish 18ポイント19ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm curious how they got the 7% stat.

[–]Dr_Spicoli 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes. At its peak the Nazi party had about 8 million official members, which is 10% of the population. But in 1933 before the coup it was only a bit over 1%.

[–]throwawaytits12345 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

And that's not including the people who voted for them (somewhere around 40% IIRC)

[–]WhaleThief 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Almost certainly NSDAP party membership over German population. Pretty simple.

[–]rhynodegreat 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

And limited too. According to this post women and children couldn't be part of the party. And even then, people could support the party without being a part of it.

[–]ShdBGolfn [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Schilling was hired for his name (his brand so to speak). ESPN decided they didn't care for the comments as it was hurting their brand. It's called business. Free speech has consequences Curt so suck it up and deal with it.

[–]Qusqus73 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hate to burst anyone's bubble, but literally just today the Nazi statistic was discussed and disproved as being an accurate representation of anything on /r/badhistory.

[–]Gasoline_Fight [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It wasn't inaccurate so much as it didn't provide the whole picture. He is citing official Nazi party members of the population, not including the voters who supported them. One of the problems with that thread is not the statistic Schilling came up with is inaccurate but the argument behind it. Although he is wrong about Islamists. The extremists are about 1%, but there is broad support for those groups and, depending on location, could poll as high as 80%. The numbers and metaphor still holds IMO. But the logic in the argument is weak.

[–]Whambacon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I understand the point he was trying to make, and yes, the Nazis are a bad comparison. You have to take into account the shear number of people who supported and participated in the nazi party's activities, not because they believed it, but because it was better than being sent to a concentration camp. It was common back then to report your neighbor if you disliked them and get them sent off by the Gestapo. What is happening in the middle east is people dying because they follow a different sect of Islam. There is genocide going on, and it will come out later in the history books, just like it did in the Balkans.

[–]FourStarGeneral 104ポイント105ポイント  (25子コメント)

the nazis were more civilized.

[–]OrneryTanker 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

The methodical, scientific manner in which the Nazis carried out their exterminations is precisely what sets them apart from other genocides.

[–]Augusto_Franco 7ポイント8ポイント  (14子コメント)

Comparing the Muslims to Hitler is slandering Uncle Adolf's good name.

[–]TahaI 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah the definition of extremists here is a bit unclear

[–]somethingisaskew [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's not wrong and ESPN is the asshole.

[–]BenjaminHammond [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

To be fair, he (or whoever wrote what is on that image) actually compared non-extremist Muslims to non-Nazi Germans, and Muslim extremists to Nazi Germans. That's a fair comparison. He's not saying that Muslims are Nazis. It seems as though he saying that extremist Muslims are likeable to Nazis, and that their small numbers shouldn't deter common thought from being concerned about their stealthy influence within wider circles. But... still, there are a lot of nerves one risks touching by tweeting such a thing, and the undertones aren't particularly friendly, so the suspension is understandable.

[–]Elreyabelardo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well at least we can't say he didn't warn us

[–]Kuragan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Companies don't like it when their employees have opinions or beliefs.

[–]respekyoeldas [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Especially when you're contractually obligated to not share your personal or political views.

He was also using a soapbox that ESPN partially created for him to share those views. If Curt Schilling works at a car wash, he probably isn't suspended from his job. Instead he works for the biggest sports media business possibly in the world and they don't care to deal with the backlash from what one of their retard employees had to say.

[–]Millennion [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Can someone explain to me why liberals will go to ends of the earths defending Muslims no matter what they do. But when a Christian thinks abortion is wrong its considered unimaginably horrible.

[–]gnexuser2424 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This. Muslims are worse then even fundies and yet they protect the muslims and bash the fundies

[–]Millennion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's no rhyme or reason to it. How do you go from championing women's right to defending a group who thinks women shouldn't have rights? I don't understand that at all.

[–]BfMDevOuR [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This would have got him a promotion at Fox News.

[–]toysoldierxiii 26ポイント27ポイント  (65子コメント)

I don't see how that is either offensive or wrong. What the fuck is happening to this world?

[–]fredjonez 115ポイント116ポイント  (30子コメント)

Well the statistic was made up, and then he compared the people in the group he made up to Nazis. If you're representing a company like ESPN, you don't exactly get to compare hundreds of millions of people to Nazis.

[–]peanutcrackers 25ポイント26ポイント  (11子コメント)

If anything, I think the extremists stat is an understatement compared to polling data that we know: http://i.imgur.com/N4PtXcK.jpg

Though I think /u/bestbiff provided the best stats: http://np.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3idwwc/curt_schilling_suspended_by_espn_after_tweet/cufmbgz

[–]fredjonez 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Maybe, but it doesn't mean they are plotting genocide and will try and exterminate the Jews. The main thing as I have said previously is they are not a monolithic entity. When you look at the Gaza conflict, and the support of Hamas and extremism, it is driven by what they experience and doesn't necessarily translate to the conflict in Iraq with ISIS. On the other side, The Chechen rebel attacks on Russian civilians is an entirely different conflict with a different set of rebels and a different goal. Same with the conflict in Afghanistan, and even Pakistan. Even the religion isn't the same in some cases. It's just a dumb reduction to three sentences that can be debunked by a second grader.

[–]luna_inculta 29ポイント30ポイント  (2子コメント)

actually I'm pretty sure quite a decent percentage of them have a problem with jews.

[–]Augusto_Franco 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

According to the Pew Global Attitudes Project released on August 14, 2005, high percentages of the populations of six Muslim-majority countries have negative views of Jews. To a questionnaire asking respondents to give their views of members of various religions along a spectrum from "very favorable" to "very unfavorable", 60% of Turks, 74% of Pakistanis, 76% of Indonesians, 88% of Moroccans, 99% of Lebanese Muslims and 100% of Jordanians checked either "somewhat unfavorable" or "very unfavorable" for Jews

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islam_and_antisemitism&oldid=380681249#Trends

The Flemish-language newspaper De Morgen (link only in Flemish) has a major article about a survey of Muslim students in Brussels high schools. The professor who conducted the survey concludes that half "can be described as antisemitic which is a very high rate.’’ Five times higher, in fact, then among Flemish-speaking Belgians, who historically have been relatively anti-Jewish.

Incidentally, what was being measured here was not antagonism toward Israel but traditional anti-Jewish stereotypes. No doubt, the former attitude is even stronger.

The anti-Jewish sentiments among Muslims don't vary depending on education level or living standards. Obviously, they aren't getting it from Belgian society.

http://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http://www.rightsidenews.com/2011051713549/editorial/world-opinion-and-editorial/belgium-half-of-all-muslim-immigrant-children-are-antisemitic.html&date=2011-05-19

[–]MulderD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least Jordan is consistent.

[–]videogameboy76 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Godwin's Law only applies if the comparison is an appeal to emotion rather than logic.

[–]zorro_tolerance 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

heaven forbid the extremists get offended

[–]fredjonez 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

It isn't the extremists they care about, it's the perception of ESPN. They probably don't even care about offending Muslims, they just don't want people that represent them to post image macros comparing a group to Nazis. I mean, it's childish.

[–]Mountainous_Dew 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Comparing muslim extremists to Nazis seems like a pretty valid comparison to me. They both wanted to attack the west and kill large groups of people because they are different than them.

[–]bestbiff 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention how fiercely anti-semitic both are.

[–]MulderD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't mean a sports anchor working the Little League WS should be tweeting it. Just adds a stink to the network, the event, and him.

[–]beer_sandwiches [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Seriously. You can't even speak your mind regardless of how wrong or right you are without the internet police coming down on you. It's really pathetic. Why should someone have to lose their job over something they thought of, posted, and deleted minutes later. Disgusting.

[–]36in36 12ポイント13ポイント  (8子コメント)

It is this kind of thing that is fueling the support of Trump. People are sick of everyone having to be so careful. He made a comment...I wouldn't have made it, maybe you wouldn't have... but that means someone can't?

[–]MulderD 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

When that person is representing a brand, group, or organization that heavily relies on public perception. That's when it's not OK.

[–]Jasmudda 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think the point is people are overly sensitive and it's causing more harm than good.

[–]MulderD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree, but when you represent a company that must market it's product across a broad spectrum you do need to be more or less PC. Even if his point was kind of sort of valid, you don't represent ESPN (or Home Depot, or Applebes, or the YMCA, or any other business) with Muslim Extremists, Nazis, and purposely incendiary stats/comments. If he wasn't employed by anyone and made that post I wouldn't have much issue with it, beyond thinking it's generally in bad taste. But not particularly offensive to anyone but Muslim Extremists. Of which I'm sure ZERO would be reading Curt Schilling's Tweets.

[–]Fyrus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's not about if it's OK or not. ESPN execs aren't worried about "is this okay?!?!!" They want to know if it's going to affect the bottom line or not.

[–]MulderD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No shit. That's exactly what 'OK' means to ESPN. They have a responsibility to their shareholders to MAKE MONEY.

[–]I_Like_Football_AMA 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It means his employer can suspend him.

[–]I_Like_Football_AMA 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's a baseball analyst. He's paid to talk about baseball, not religion.

[–]Abduction1200 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here is the problem folks...the word "nazi" should never appear in anyone's tweet if they are a TV personality. It will never end well.

[–]finest_pirate 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

How did he get those numbers?

[–]Wasted_Comment 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He compared Muslims to Germans and the extremists to Nazis.. stupid on his part? yes. Blown out of proportion by the media? yes.

[–]vi_warshawski 4ポイント5ポイント  (34子コメント)

didn't curt schilling the old baseball player run some fraud video game company that stole millions? why didn't he go to jail for that?

[–]jarmzet 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

He lost a bunch of money by investing in and starting a video game company.

[–]NorthernerWuwu 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was passionate about it too. Hey, I don't know about the investing portion of things and all but Curt absolutely did want to make a great game.

He never got close to what he intended but I won't fault the guy for lack of effort.

[–]toysoldierxiii 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

38 Studios. Unfortunate because Amular was a damn good game.

[–]Maldras 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was definitely a fun game. And no Nazis.

[–]red_sutter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember it being repetitive and empty, on top of being easy as shit. Some of the most fluid combat I've seen in a western RPG, though

[–]foxh8er 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He seems like a regular Gamergate supporter.

[–]libraryspy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, I thought that was Mark Cuban.

[–]DrSpagetti 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not his own money. It was small business grants from the state of RI. Pretty sure he got 100% of the small business funding that year and pissed it all away.

[–]Darth_drizzt_42 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

38 studios put out a game called Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning. F0r a first time game from a new studio it actually had a lot of potential, but the state of Rhode Island partially funded the game development. When the game didn't break even his company and it's assets got auctioned off.

[–]nekowolf 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was mostly by Big Huge Games though. 38 studios bought them. Not that 38 Studios doesn't deserve credit as well.

[–]Maldras 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Iirc they funded his company which was also developing a cash-heavy MMO. Likely the MMO was the anchor.

[–]Darth_drizzt_42 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

The MMO was to be set in Amalur but considering how few sales their actual game got, they didn't have enough ti finish the MMO

[–]Maldras 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Indeed...a shame as I liked the game.

From Wiki: On March 10, 2012, it was projected by NPD that the game sold over 330,000 physical copies in the U.S.[33] and Curt Schilling later tweeted that it has sold 1.2 million by the 90-day mark. Rhode Island governor Lincoln Chafee has said that the game was a failure as it needed to sell over 3 million copies to break even.[5]

[–]Darth_drizzt_42 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I really enjoyed it. It was incredibly flawed as well ( worst lip synching I've seen in years) but its the kind of game that needs to sell so that the legitimately amazing sequel can exist.

[–]Maldras 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I am surprised that no one one picked it for cheap in receivership up to clean and then port to console. Or maybe they did and I missed it. Any idea?

[–]Darth_drizzt_42 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was made for console and pc originally. My copy is for 360.

[–]Maldras 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sry I meant for next-gen...Also did a quick search and can't find anything about the IP being sold, other than articles saying there were no buyers.

[–]Darth_drizzt_42 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sadly I don't think this game could sell with just a graphical overhaul. The lip synching was some of the worst I'd ever seen, and fixing just that ( I'd presume) would involve significant changes.

[–]enderandrew42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kingdoms of Amalur probably turned a profit. The problem was that he was also making an MMO in the same setting. The MMO had a budget of $75 million. Kingdoms of Amalur didn't pay for its own development, plus an additional $75 million. He took state loans, but ran out of cash before finishing the MMO.

[–]nvkylebrown 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Schilling is/was a wargamer.

Multiman Publishing was his baby (at the beginning, not sure about now). That's not a video game company though. The point of MMP was to re-print Advanced Squad Leader (which had a multi-man game piece, thus the name). ASL is a particularly complex board game.

http://www.multimanpublishing.com/

He may have been involved in a video game effort as well, but I haven't heard about it.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Curt lost money on MMP, but I would guess he knew that going in. Avalon Hill, the original manufacturer had already gone out of business, gotten their titles bought up, and then not published as the accountants determined that it was a money loser. I expect Curt knew that he couldn't make money doing it, but did it for the love of the game (ASL has a pretty hard-core fanbase).

[–]Volksgrenadier 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

and he was stopped by Lincoln Chafee, then governor of Rhode Island and current Presidential candidate. Vote Chafee in 2016.

[–]highspeed_lowdrag2 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The % of extremist Muslims is higher then 10% though

[–]beanswiggin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why is anyone surprised by this? Curt Schilling is a retard.

[–]arteeeee 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I would love to know where they got the '5-10% of Muslims are extremist' statistic, as well as the '7% of Germans were Nazis'. Also, how would they define 'extremist'? What an absolute idiot.. crazy how genuine morons like this guy, and the vast majority of American TV presenters, get into their positions and can broadcast their bullshit to millions.

[–]atb77 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to the new age

[–]piesseji 2ポイント3ポイント  (44子コメント)

Not offensive, not incorrect, not reprehensible. This type of attitude is why we are going to see huge Muslim influx into Western Europe, and then decades of racial violence perpetrated both by them and against them.

Islam is incompatible with the modern world. Stop running from the truth.

[–]Geek0id 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Compared an entire group of people to Nazi's in germany. Offensive.

<5% not 5-10%. He is incorrect.

He clearly doesn't even understand WWII

The majority of muslim come to AMerica in order to be part of a more modern world.

Mist muslims function fine in the modern world.

You are a bigot. No different the People who said the same thing about the Irish.

Your way of thinking is incompatible with the modern world.

[–]yellowstone10 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The majority of muslim come to AMerica in order to be part of a more modern world.

That's true about American Muslims, but most Muslims in the West aren't in America - they're in Europe. Given the cost and travel required, if you're a Muslim trying to emigrate from a majority-Muslim state to America, you really have to want to come to America. By contrast, a large portion of Muslim immigrants in Europe aren't there because they necessarily like or appreciate Europe - they're just trying to escape the violence and poverty that is rampant in their homelands.

[–]DDBB4LYF 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Curt Schilling is kind of a dick off the field.

Alright, also on the field, but I'm a Sox fan, so I gave that a pass.

Edit: Woah, shit ton of Nazis in this thread. So there's that. Just want to say it while I have the chance, fuck you guys!

[–]purpleclouds [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hope they fire him, not because his remarks are bigoted, (they are) but because he is a god awful baseball commentator. He always finds a way to talk about himself and how he used to play. We fucking GET IT Schilling! You used to pitch! Now GTFO or start talking about the current game you are being paid to talk about, you narcissistic ass bag.

[–]klabboy [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

If it's the truth why ban him. Fucking politically correct society we live in.

The real problem isn't the 5-10% or the 7% is the other 95-90% that sit back and do nothing. That's the God damned problem.

[–]ShinoAsada0 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Why are you sitting back and not stopping all those christians murdering people in Africa? You are part of the God damned problem.

[–]ne_dave -4ポイント-3ポイント  (37子コメント)

ESPN being politically correct once again. The stat is true, for one, and it highlights many other comparisons. The extremist 5% bully the other 95% into silence, as did the Nazi party. It shows 19 out of 20 Muslims do believe it is a religion of peace. People are misinterpreting the message the statistics show, because Schilling is conservative, so must be a bigot. That's #sjw in action once again twisting things.

[–]fredjonez 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish people would stop comparing anything and everything to Nazis. It's such a ridiculous reduction of a complicated group of billions of people. For one thing they aren't all one nationality, one color, or even of the same branch of the religion. They don't have the same views, or the same type of "extremism". Stupid two sentence "memes" describing 100 million people is far worse than anything politically correct.

[–]FreddyFuego 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

ESPN being politically correct once again.

You mean Disney, who owns ESPN. Disney doesnt tolerate this type of stuff in any of their companies.

[–]PARK_THE_BUS 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's #sjw in action once again twisting things.

Yup, it's those damn SJWs. Couldn't possibly be that the parent company Disney does not want to risk getting ripped apart by both consumers and the media.

[–]MulderD 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are missing the part where is the employee of a company that doesn't want any association with Muslim Extremists, Nazis, incendiary comments, or questionable stats about millions of human beings (although ESPN loves stats about baseball). If Schilling wants to use his stature to put stuff like this out there, he is more than welcome to do so, after leaving his job.

[–]Geek0id 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is comparing a specific subgroup that had totalitarian control of the whole group to a large group with no central control.

NO, the stat is NOT TRUE, for one.

5% say the agree with al qaeda, and a much smaller number do anything in support.

The group of extremist are NOT forcing all muslim into silence. Thats like saying the Nazi party forced Germans in America into silence.

His long history of nonsense is what has him labeled and an idiot and bigot, not just this instance.

[–]ScrotoSacked 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

why is the truth always punished? i could see if he made that statistic up, but the truth cannot be offensive.

[–]PunxGamer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything he said was true? Guess people are fucking idiots who don't want to hear the truth.

[–]Muggzy999 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When it comes to baseball, Curt Schilling is very intelligent. When it comes to everything else, he's an idiot.

Why does anyone take him seriously anyway?

[–]Velshtein 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cue all the apologists. If anything, polling unfortunately shows that he understated his numbers.

[–]RadComedy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

the man speaks the truth! Give him a medal!

[–]PiratePantsFace -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's dangerous to speak the truth. To win, an extremist group doesn't have to kill everyone who disagrees with them. All they have to do is silence the people with enough courage to speak up.

[–]lecherous_hump -4ポイント-3ポイント  (8子コメント)

He's not wrong. I have a soft spot for Schilling for having the balls to call out the rest of baseball on using steroids.

[–]SpeakLikeAChild04 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He basically implied that Al-Qaeda and ISIS have committed atrocities that are on a par with what the Nazis did. I guess that's really bad and he needs to be reprimanded for it.

[–]uvebeenrekt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And if they decide to act up they can remember the jews of the time.

[–]Sac6842 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy is really good at losing money and looking like an asshole

[–]bobbybottombracket 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And why was he suspended again...? heh, seriously.

[–]electronicat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like Curt. I got to play ASL against him in Denver a long time ago.

[–]mosc47 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

ESPN will probably release a statement later claiming the suspension was not all about that tweet, like they did when they suspended Keith Law for disagreeing with Schilling's fundamentalist, biblical-literalist views of anti-evolution.

[–]seeders_worldnews [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What percentage of Americans are teletubbies? Be honest.

[–]50PercentLies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So, with the exception of the mistake in how he wrote the analogy,... Is it that wrong a comparison?

This is a genuine question. Also, I am 400 foot tall platypus bear with pink horns and silver wings.

[–]shviss_vatches [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it should also be noted that ESPN has given tons of coverage this week to New Orleans for Katrina's tenth anniversary...other places got hit and got hit hard, in the same state even.

[–]randombacon74 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Schilling said something stupid? Again? No wai!

[–]noeljb [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If his numbers are right i don't see the problem. Except of course few people will realize this point could made toward many groups. Radical KKK, Radical MADD members, Radical people named Joe.

[–]iZane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

how dumb are you people.. nazi was a party in Germany for years before WWII. i bet over half of germany was in the Nazi party.. his comparison is trash.

[–]Keskekun [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Holy shit the ammount of people in this thread goin "you got to seperate the factions in my religion to weed out the nutjobs" only to instantly use Muslim as synonymous with extremism is staggering

[–]From2112 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Is he wrong? Seems similar to me.