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And no real defence against not being a vegan. Your arguments for pro vegan are nothing more then you pretending your on a moral high ground. You quote and link articles about about how its unethical and against morals to slaughter and eat animals yet, not once, could you provide a decent argument besides that as to why after all these years man cannot remain how we have been for thousands of years.

Mankind as a whole has never been wastefull of the animals we kill. We eat their meat, we use thier skin, their entrails, and their bones. But because we should know better means we should?

Please do explain a better way of getting leather or supply an alternative, keep in mind anything that is synthetic or plastic is normally 98% of the time environmentally harmful which will do more damage over time to the habitats that animals live in, then us using the ones we kill.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1日前 (11子コメント)

Read the whole statement.

"why though" implying why would a vegan breastfeed their baby since it's an animal byproduct.

I'm not following this. Are you asking why a vegan would do it? Well because it's good for the baby? I think that should be obvious.

And no real defence against not being a vegan.

Huh, I thought I had read numerous articles by professors at top 25 universities making the argument that people should be vegan. I guess all those articles aren't "real".

Your arguments for pro vegan are nothing more then you pretending your on a moral high ground. You quote and link articles about about how its unethical and against morals to slaughter and eat animals yet, not once, could you provide a decent argument besides that as to why after all these years man cannot remain how we have been for thousands of years.

Man COULD remain the same. But shouldn't. Do you know what an appeal to tradition is? It's the kind of argument you're making. You should Google " appeal to tradition " and tell me what you find.

Mankind as a whole has never been wastefull of the animals we kill. We eat their meat, we use thier skin, their entrails, and their bones. But because we should know better means we should?

They're still bad for the environment even if we use every part.

Please do explain a better way of getting leather or supply an alternative, keep in mind anything that is synthetic or plastic is normally 98% of the time environmentally harmful which will do more damage over time to the habitats that animals live in, then us using the ones we kill.

So, just curious, where'd you get that 98% from? I'd love to see a source for your claim.

[–]Fuzzy_Taco -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1日前 (10子コメント)

Common sense dictates its bad for the environment. We still use fossile fuels, we still dump trash and waste.

Yes I'm asking why a vegan would do this, benefit of the baby aside. Similar to how you view parents teaching their kids to eat meat when they don't know any better. Why force a child to breast feed when the child doesn't know any other way? I'm sure that mankind can come up with a formula that uses no animal by products and is better for the development of the child then breastmilk.

Man kind cannot remain the same with out the intake of vital body building amino acids/ chemicals we get from meat. Iron for one is vital to the production of blood cells, however the iron found in plants is far harder to digest and absorb into the body then the heme-iron found in red meats.

I grew up not liking meat at all in general, and when I moved out I sought the help of many different nutrionist to best build myself a vegetarian diet. I found out, after being on a vegetarian diet, that i was not the same. I had less energy, less endurance, and generally felt like shit. I tried multiple things, overhauls to my diet to include things that I didn't before, nothing help me to shake those feelings. When I returned back to my old diet, I started feeling better after about a week. I cannot replace my diet with that of plants. It doesn't work for me. It also is a lot more expensive.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1日前 (9子コメント)

I'm sure that mankind can come up with a formula that uses no animal by products and is better for the development of the child then breastmilk.

Sure, but could everyone afford it? No. That's why breast feeding is okay and will continue.

Man kind cannot remain the same

I don't know what you mean by "remain the same". I haven't eaten meat for over ten years and I think I'm still the same person.

I grew up not liking meat at all in general, and when I moved out I sought the help of many different nutrionist to best build myself a vegetarian diet. I found out, after being on a vegetarian diet, that i was not the same. I had less energy, less endurance, and generally felt like shit. I tried multiple things, overhauls to my diet to include things that I didn't before, nothing help me to shake those feelings. When I returned back to my old diet, I started feeling better after about a week. I cannot replace my diet with that of plants. It doesn't work for me. It also is a lot more expensive.

Okay, but what about everyone who CAN do it without health problems? Shouldn't they avoid products that cause unnecessary suffering?

[–]Fuzzy_Taco -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 23時間前 (8子コメント)

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No I don't "trust" physicians.

My wife had a physician tell her the blisters on her back were from a sun burn, and that the pain she felt as well as the blistering would go away in time. Fast forward 2 weeks, and the pain is worse, blistering is worse, turn out she had shingles.

She has very frequent head aches, every day, with migraines 1-2 times weekly, since the age of 13 till now, at the age of 32, she was told after countless Ct scans and Mri's that it was a hormonal problem. But nope again, after having to force them to had over all records and images, we find out that she has been developing a sever problem over those years, in which the one of the ventricles in her brain has been growing larger due to a build up of pressure from the blockage of csf so much so to the point where the midline of her brain has shifted.

She also suffered a hip injury which lead to yet another doctor telling her she needed a bursectomy, in which he told us that the bursa is nothing more then a fluid filled sack, that will grow back once it has been removed. But guess what! That doesn't grow back.

So yeah, I don't care how well trained someone is, I flat out don't trust anyone. You claiming to be an "academic" just makes me think even less. I could understand if the questions you asked, and the topics you brought up were of your own thoughts, but as an "academic" you should be able to view more then just your side of a discussion. To teach people is to know both sides, to preach is to know but one.

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