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Curt Schilling given wrist-slap, removed from crew for LLWS after ill-advised tweet equating Muslims with Nazis (deadspin.com)

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[–]pig_eat_squirrel 81ポイント82ポイント  (3子コメント)

Someone should've told Curt to stop using Twitter a long time ago. What a dumbass.

[–]Texas RangersAdrian081597 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Since this isn't his first time saying some stupid shit on twitter, I'm pretty sure someone had tried telling him something.

[–]Detroit TigersMarkingOut44 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe Curt should stop using facebook and other social media as well

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/8/25/9207657/curt-schilling-really-likes-posting-on-facebook-about-muslims-being

[–]Chicago Cubsgandalfsmagicgaydick 42ポイント43ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only 5-10% of Curt's sock was bloody.

[–]San Fransico GiantsThe_Collector4 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

bloody socks don't melt steel beams

[–]Chicago Cubsgandalfsmagicgaydick 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nazis however, do.

[–]Detroit TigersThreeHourRiverMan 141ポイント142ポイント  (64子コメント)

I seriously despise Curt Schilling. I love how he's oblivious to how his "critique" of Islam extends to fanatics of his own religion, especially when juxtaposed with his retweet about how the Confederate flag was a strong symbol of Christianity.

[–]Tampa Bay RaysCycloheptadienyl 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

The Ku Klux Klan were blatanty Christian. European conquistadores and colonialists justified the slaughter and subjugation of millions with Christian scriptures. The Inquisition.

Curt, Curt.

[–]New York Yankeesspeedyjohn 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not really fair to count conquistadors and crusaders as modern Christian fanatics. The point about the KKK (and lots of other white power groups) is valid, though.

[–]Los Angeles DodgersGoldandBlue 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

But they aren't "really" Christian, is what I always hear when i bring this up.

[–]New York Yankeesspeedyjohn 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

How so? That's a huge "no true Scotsman" there. If we're going to count extremist Muslims as Muslims, we should count extremist Christians as Christians.

Ninja edit: I now see that you weren't making this argument, just saying that some people do.

[–]New York YankeesToonsummoner -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

More times than not, slaughters are the result of religion.

[–]Oakland Athleticsscottfarrar 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

yay! Twitter allows us to skip right to the Godwin's Law portion of any discussion!

These types of image memes are so silly. "it's said" haha. And then what is the point here? Should we tell Neville Chamberlain to stop appeasement with ISIS? No of course not, lets just give ourselves a license to hate all muslims!

[–]St. Louis CardinalsKommanderKitten 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Twitter really is a terrible place.

[–]shantm79 54ポイント55ポイント  (18子コメント)

He should be off TV.

[–]Chicago Cubsmorningsaystoidleon 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

He should be off TV just for being a shitty, annoyingly smug announcer.

[–]Boston Red Soxtonygordita 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every time he mentions "Bryce Harper shouldn't be MVP because you should be on a playoff team to be MVP," I want to rip my TV off its stand. What a stupid statement.

[–]azorahaiasfuck 47ポイント48ポイント  (14子コメント)

Not like this is the first idiotic, racist, xenophobic comment he's made either. Fuck him.

[–]New York YankeesJimmyD2 34ポイント35ポイント  (4子コメント)

His Facebook might be even worse. It is just a treasure trove of those types of idiotic, racist memes you would expect from your weird cousin from out in the boonies who you only see like once every two years, not a fucking celebrity/tv personality. Looking through it, it is genuinely shocking he was even still on TV before this

[–]Boston Red SoxAGMarasco 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

http://deadspin.com/six-memes-that-i-swear-curt-schilling-shared-to-his-fac-1726397236

[–]Boston Red Soxgoalstopper28 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That Cecil the Lion meme was actually a valid point.

runs away and hides

[–]New York Metsbukkake_pancakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I the only person in the world who doesn't understand the Benghazi scandal? What is it that Benghazi truthers want to know? Crazy terrorists killed Americans in a war torn region saturated with crazy terrorists who want to kill Americans. What more do people need to know?

[–]San Francisco Giantswesman212 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/forwardsfromgrandma

[–]San Francisco GiantsBluehale 20ポイント21ポイント  (3子コメント)

Plus he's a serial hypocrite. He rails against corporate welfare, but he was the recipient of a lot of it with 38 studios which flamed out. Oh yeah Curt how about paying back Rhode Island all the money you blew on 38 studios?

[–]Boston Red Soxtonygordita 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

b-b-b-b-b-but he was a job creator, it's different.

/s

[–]azorahaiasfuck 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's basically just a trash person

[–]Boston Red Soxgoalstopper28 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, he once got in twitter fights with trolls who wanted to fuck his daughter, which is reasonable but you should never give trolls attention. He also got into serious arguments about global warming being a farce. He should just not be on twitter or television.

Basically the Tim Thomas of the Red Sox. Love them for what they did for Boston, but hate them for who they are.

[–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

“The Constitution guarantees every American the inalienable right to make a damn fool of himself.”

[–]Los Angeles DodgersDarwinYogi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And so many of us exercise that right every day!

[–]Washington Nationalsappleapple123123 36ポイント37ポイント  (4子コメント)

Where do I go to protest more vehemently so that ESPN will be forced to remove him from all baseball coverage? :-)

[–]AustraliaMurray_Bannerman 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can we just remove ESPN altogether?

[–]Arizona DiamondbacksImhereforthesports 30ポイント31ポイント  (2子コメント)

Please, anywhere but r/baseball

[–]Arizona DiamondbacksOhminty 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

What, you don't want 15 different links on why Curt Schilling is worse than Hitler crowding the front page?

[–]New York MetsMazzocchi 26ポイント27ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's said that only 1 of 7.3 billion people are Curt Schilling. In 1940 only 1 of 2.3 million people were Hitler. How'd that go?

[–]New York Yankeescrabcakesandfootball 46ポイント47ポイント  (42子コメント)

It looked more like he compared Muslims to WWII-era Germans and Islam extremists to Nazis.

[–]Boston Red Soxmtrem225 74ポイント75ポイント  (20子コメント)

But it's not a valid comparison.

It's said only 5-10% of Muslims are extremists

Where? What credible person has said that? There's just no way it's true. There are 1.57 billion Muslims on the planet; if 5% are extremists, that's 78.5 million extremists.

only 7% of Germans were Nazis in 1940

I don't think this is true either. In 1932, when the Nazis began their rise to power, they received over 32% of the vote. It's unlikely that that number dropped to 7% in 1940, when they seemed to be on their way to complete domination of Europe.

[–]nevillebanks 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

They actually got up to 42.9% of the vote in 1933 then dissolved all other parties, therefore basically making it mandatory to support them. The 6% number is a reasonably close number, but they restricted membership so its not the number of people who supported them it the number of people they let in. Just an example of someone using statistics to mislead.

[–]Boston Red Soxmtrem225 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the clarification!

[–]Pittsburgh Pirateshubub153 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, even people rushing to fight against Islamophobia make that mistake. Saying stuff like "Don't generalize, 95% of them aren't terrorists." If that were true, and there were 78.5 million extremists, the planet would probably be in flames.

It'd be far more accurate to say "less than 1%" of Muslims are extremists.

[–]nevillebanks 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

It would be more accurate to say that less than 1% of less than 1% of Muslims are extremists.

[–]Pittsburgh Pirateshubub153 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

True, true.

[–]St. Louis CardinalsCarlBarks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Small if true

[–]Baltimore OriolesBaltimoreBirdGuy 40ポイント41ポイント  (13子コメント)

This guy did the math and calculated about .00006625% of the world's muslims who would be considered extremists.

[–]Boston Red Soxmtrem225 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks! Probably somewhat more accurate than "5-10%".

[–]Kansas City RoyalsNSYK 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

They just put the decimal point six places off. No biggy.

[–]Detroit TigersSchpartyOn 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate when I do that.

[–]New York Yankeesbreisnshine 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It all depends on how you define extremism

[–]Los Angeles DodgersGoldandBlue 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He prays facing Mecca... to the EXTREME!!!!!!

[–]St. Louis CardinalsAlaric4 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

106,000 extremists out of 1.6 billion Muslims is a rate of 0.00006625. But when expressed as a percentage, it's actually .006625%. Still a small number compared to 5%, but if he's gonna "do the math", better if he understood how percentages work, lest credibility on the main point be undermined.

[–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's violent extremists, not extremists.

If you use the number of Wahhabis, then it's 0.36%

If you count Muslims who say attacks on civilians are sometimes/often justified, then it could be as high as 14%.

If you count Muslims who support Sharia, then it could be over 50%.

[–]New York MetsJayk_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate that stat about attacks on civilians. I'd bet my life more than 14% of Americans think drone strikes that kill civilians can be justified

[–]Whitepeoplethirsty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was just going to post that. All depends on extremeism. Even at 106k the number of active ISIS and AlQaeda is extremely low estimate. You would also be taking out the guys who shot up the Texas drawings, French train, newspaper attack, and any other ISIS attack since they weren't active in the Middle East

If you go by suicide bombing there is over 200 million Muslim extremeist who believe in that (eighth of Muslims), honor killing of women the number is more than that, and Sharia Law is over 50% Muslims believe that should be the universal law. http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/05/ben-shapiro/shapiro-says-majority-muslims-are-radicals/

[–]San Francisco GiantsAndAgain1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you count Muslims who say attacks on civilians are sometimes/often justified, then it could be as high as 14%.

And that's just in Europe. In Muslim countries it's a lot higher.

[–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, I think that's worldwide.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

[–]San Francisco GiantsAndAgain1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm basing it on the link you posted...

[–]Washington NationalsMFoy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

/r/theydidthemath

[–]New York MetsSonnySideUp 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

So we all agree it's stupid, right? The analogy just doesn't make sense.

[–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah, also it's not like Muslims are a country that could even theoretically vote in extremist leadership.

[–]New York MetsSonnySideUp 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's just stupid. Were we supposed to have killed all the Germans before World War II?

[–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think anyone's saying we should kill all Muslims.

[–]Toronto Blue JaysExplainsSocialEnigma 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not-bright baseball player tweets nonsense thing. Less-bright journalists somehow make less sense.

[–]Peregrinations12 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's comparing a religion to a country that systematically murdered Jews, Roma, and homosexuals--among others. He's comparing a religion to a country the U.S., France, the U.K., Canada, and many other countries went to war with. He's comparing a religion to a country whose citizens were were largely complicit (at the very least) with genocide. You make it seem like being compared to WWII era Germans is not all that bad.

He is saying that a religion is akin with a country that perpetrated one of the worst tragedies in history.

He also greatly overestimates the number of Islamic extremists.

[–]New York Yankeescrabcakesandfootball 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

The title says he compares Muslims to Nazis. I just stated a more accurate description of his comparison. I don't believe I made anything seem like anything.

[–]Peregrinations12 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is saying Muslims present a Nazi-like threat. The last part of the Tweet after making the Nazi Germany comparison was: "How did that go?"

Way more than 7% of Germany had significant implication with the Holocaust. Many if not most German's were aware of what their government was doing. Hitler had widespread support. Whether you consider a supporter of the Third Reich a Nazi is semantics. But for me, if it quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.

[–]St. Louis CardinalsJaylaw 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

I dont like schilling and it was a dumb tweet, but i agree. He equates isis w nazis and muslims w germans

[–]StLSwifties 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

He did, but I don't see ISIS winning any elections. Not to say that some Germans didn't fight against the Nazi party, but they were voted into power.

So the comparison is weak in my opinion. I'd be happier if we didn't see endless Godwins.

[–]Philadelphia PhilliesThePraetor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Nazis were once a fringe party in Weimar Germany, and look what happened there.

[–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He did, but I don't see ISIS winning any elections.

Depends who icounts the votes.

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    [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Who are you talking to?

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      [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Did you read the article? Haha

      [–]mexicodude908 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Curt Schilling is a hero because he got a sock stained red and needed a tide stick to get it out...guy is a dick

      [–]New York MetsSanguisFluens 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Curt Schilling is famous because he was an incredible pitcher. But beyond that, we don't need him and his political beliefs in our lives.

      [–]San Francisco GiantsDeusselkerr 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

      People are not flat, and can change. Yeah, I still think he was a hero that day, just as much as I think he's a douche muncher today.

      [–]Montreal ExposRoyal_Flush13 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He was a douche muncher then, too, but no one can deny that he was a tough son of a bitch.

      [–]San Francisco Giantswesman212 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He also screwed the state of Rhode Island so there's that

      [–]New York MetsBobchickenman 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

      The misinterpretation of the first amendment in those comments is incredible.

      [–]Baltimore Oriolesaresef[S] 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

      A lot of people don't understand that freedom of government penalties for your speech is different from freedom from repercussions.

      [–]Pittsburgh Piratesvecnyj 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      But also a lot of people don't understand that freedom of speech is an idea that predates and goes beyond the First Amendment.

      [–]San Diego Padresmrdov 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Keith Law tweeted this out today.

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      Title-text: I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

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      [–]New York Yankeesyankeesyes 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Geez looking at his FB page it's like an encyclopedia of every FWD:FWD:FWD:FWD email from your crazy distant uncle.

      No wonder ESPN is cutting him loose, he's becoming a liability for the brand.

      [–]Philadelphia PhilliesACTUAL_TIME_TRAVELER 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Frankly, I'm more surprised it took Schilling this long to make a "Muslims to Nazi Germany" comparison than anything.

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate[M] 8ポイント9ポイント  (16子コメント)

      This article can stay, because it's about how it affects his job in the baseball community. Thought I should clarify that this one won't be removed.

      [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Never saw a flair as amazing as yours. Totally jealous.

      [–]New York Metsatoms12123 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Check out /u/_depression's.

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      as amazing

      psh not even close :D

      [–]Glorious Smiter of Spam_depression 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Says the guy so jealous that he sabotaged my flair caption.

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Says the guy who couldn't even put his own flair back on, so he had to risk someone else changing his flair hover text.

      [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I've seen it. It's fun. Not nearly as cool as Fustrates, though.

      [–]New York Metsatoms12123 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Please! It's the home run apple! That's all that's needed in life! Besides more exclamation points!

      [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      but that's how every upvote is in the Mets sub, so i've kinda seen it already!

      [–]San Francisco Giantscontextplz 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      /u/dtardif 's wins it.

      [–]New York MetsBeachBoysHarmony 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Can't lie, yea.. that's better.

      [–]ama9rb 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

      So articles about what punishment he receives can stay, but ones about what he did to receive the punishment can't? Great thanks for clearing that up.

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate 19ポイント20ポイント  (4子コメント)

      The rules, made with the community's input, clearly state that tabloid-esque posts with no relation to the game are not allowed. An article saying "former baseball player said dumb shit" has nothing to do with baseball and, following the direction of the community at large, will be removed.

      An article that talks about how it affects his job as a baseball commentator is well within the rules, and as such, can remain.

      You don't need to be snarky about transparent enforcement of a clearly-defined rule.

      [–]ama9rb 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I just think allowing posts about how it affects his job, but not posts about what he did to affect his job is drawing a fine line. I would say allow both types or neither.

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It's a line that the community wanted, so we're enforcing it. I think it's very easy to determine if a post should be removed in accordance with that specific rule - either the article talks about the world of baseball or it doesn't. And having an article about what he did and another about the ramifications would probably get one removed as a duplicate anyways.

      [–]Baltimore OriolesBaltimoreBirdGuy 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Out of curiosity why not draw the distinction based on his current job instead. This is relevant because he currently commentates baseball but it wouldn't be relevant if it were retired player x who has no current relationship with baseball?

      [–]It's time for Dodger baseball!Fustrate 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

      We all know that Schilling is a moron, and there are tons of other morons who are active in the world of baseball as well. Having a post every time (Current/Former) Player Says Dumb Shit isn't something the community seemed to want last time we discussed changing the rules.

      [–]Baltimore OriolesHappyMan420 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This guy is so freakin insufferable, I don't understand how he has any sort of television job.

      Good old, 'table for one'.

      [–]Arizona DiamondbacksImhereforthesports 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Seriously couldn't give a shit. He's ignorant. Lets move on.

      [–]New York Metsjoeydeno 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      good that was horrible for even saying something like that

      [–]Chicago CubsChicagoKoolAid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      People in this thread need sensitivity training. Not learning how to be respectful to others, but learning how to deal with people who don't agree with you, i.e. not throwing a hissy fit about it

      [–]New York MetsMetsican 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's completely offensive he still has a job.

      [–]HipsterDoofus31 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Dear Curt Schilling

      [–]Los Angeles DodgersVagabond21 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't think Curt Schilling ever trends on twitter for good things.

      [–]Kansas City RoyalsMackinacsfuriousclaw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I look forward to the civil discourse that will flow from this.

      [–]Detroit Tigersbrockisampson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Saw this over in /r/news. Jfc the comment section there.

      [–]Detroit TigersSoCalWingFan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      He certainly didn't like it when people posted about his daughter on social media. I guess it's okay for him to post ignorant, racist garbage about other cultures, though. It's funny, considering how much he preached about the consequences of irresponsible and ill-advised use of social media, and the consequences people should face for offensive/bullying posts.

      [–]Boston Red Sox Alternativesamuraisports37 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      From the minute he said "Vote Bush" on Good Morning America/Today/whatever after the Sox won the 2004 World Series, I continued to lose more and more respect for him.

      Here's his greatest hits from his Facebook page.

      [–]hobiedallas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Good, he makes everything he is on worse. Watching the Women's CWS this year they brought him on the finals and holy crap it was the worst part of the entire series.

      [–]San Diego Padreskensal78 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I know it's the LL World Series and these kids are impressionable, but check out my racist tweet!

      ....Seriously? He thought this was a good idea?

      [–]Major League BaseballCameraInstructor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      IT WAS KETCHUP

      [–]New York MetsGandalfSwagOff 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      5% of his body isn't man tits.

      [–]Texas RangersZubiZone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      At first I thought this was the onion. This is sad

      [–]Kansas City Royalsrhythmjones -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

      He should go back to (not) making (terrible) video games.

      [–]Boston Red SoxPunkPenguin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The game he made was actually pretty decent from what I've heard.

      [–]San Francisco GiantsDlCKFAC3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Kingdom of Amalur was a solid game for a new game dev company ... did you even play it?

      It had some of the smoothest controls for an ARPG game I can ever remember.