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[–]piss_sprinkled_tits[S] 1007ポイント1008ポイント  (145子コメント)

Because if men's nudes get leaked it's fucking hilarious but when women's nudes get leaked it's a crime againt humanity.

[–]carrayhayBLUE 278ポイント279ポイント  (13子コメント)

Also the aspect of Hulk's being filed under Hulk Hogan and J-Law being filed under Nudes

[–]kymmiijii 204ポイント205ポイント  (12子コメント)

The first Hulk Hogan image was filed under "NSFW" and the second under "Hulk Hogan."

The first Jennifer Lawrence image was filed under "Jennifer Lawrence" and the second under "Nudes."

Their inconsistencies in filing appear to be laziness, not hypocrisy.

[–]JustAlexander 43ポイント44ポイント  (9子コメント)

Or sensational "journalism" at its finest.

[–]EternalOptimist829 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Don't blame the writers, blame the people who make the web pages view count go up. They're only offering a product for a certain demographic audience that as far as they can see is creating a lot of buzz and getting people interested.

[–]moonunit99 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or we could blame both: the writers for generating the shit content and the readers for creating and sustaining the demand. I'm sure we've all got enough hate and vitriol to spread around.

[–]iUsedtoHadHerpes 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not sure why people have a problem with this comment. Maybe because it's the truth? If Gawker didn't do this, someone else would fill the void, and it would just be someone else making money off the people who live for that sort of thing.

[–]EternalOptimist829 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

People just don't want to take responsibility for their actions. It sounds rude to say it that way but it shouldn't cause it's more about being overstressed and overworked than it is about being lazy or dumb. It's human nature, and everyone does it (I'm by no means immune to it or anything) They want to watch football and give the NFL money with tickets and merchandise yet blame Gooddell when the players on the field get injured or start beating their wives. They want Twitter updates seconds after breaking news, but it pisses them off when those same sources turn out to be wrong or sensationalized. They want Reddit to be free then complain when Reddit tries to implement ads to make money. They want to go to Chick-Fil-A but they don't want to contribute funds to anti-gay politics.

These are all examples of the same principle. It's hypocrisy in one way but everyone does it. I mean I still eat meat but I don't want to know how it gets to my plate. I'll get drunk but not think that I'm damaging my liver as I do it. I just want to enjoy my meal and beer without thinking about it.

I guess if I had to say it's anything it's that people don't like it when you fuck with their guilty pleasures. Like all these people want to do is read an article without feeling like they are subversively promoting someone else's hidden agenda.

As far as me I just want a really good chicken sandwich but now I can't enjoy that chick-fil-a sandwich without thinking about how I'm making that bigoted owner more money if I do (and sometimes like a total hypocrite, I still eat there)

[–]LivingUnderSomeRock 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously TMZ are like parasites, but it's the people watching/reading their garbage that keep them in business.

[–]hackl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does that mean Gawker should be immune from criticism then? If someone else did this, then it would them getting the criticism instead. I think it is ok to point out hypocrisy, whatever the source.

[–]FrogWizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't blame criminals, blame society for making them want the things they rob and kill for. /s

Shut. The fuck. Up.

[–]EternalOptimist829 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's actually what I believe, minus the /s I'm going to guess you didn't grow up in a very criminal neighborhood but as an example most of the people I've seen who are okay with stealing shit got that taught to them by their mom or dad when they were kids. Most of the people who do drugs for the first time get the idea from somewhere outside of themeselves. Aside from sociopaths and other mentally ill people, that is.

I mean society is everything we aren't. There's the inside of our head, and there's society. So if we didn't come up with it on our own, who did?

[–]FrogWizard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I grew up in Memphis proper. At the end of the day, you control the decisions that you make.

[–]Zifnab25 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Might have something to do with Hogan's video being infidelity released (supposedly) by the woman's husband while Lawrence's pictures being the result of phone theft.

Hulk's take-down notice was in the midst of a divorce, which he insisted he had no involvement in despite all evidence to the contrary. TheFappening was just naked pictures, not a big legal kurfuffle cover-up.

[–]BathedInDeepFog 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which inadvertently cost Hogan his cushy gig.

[–]Snoozeybutton 103ポイント104ポイント  (29子コメント)

The grand majority of people did not think leaking women's nudes was a crime against humanity. Whereas most people don't give a shit about the Hulk Hogan tape.

You don't see people circulating the Hogan tape, nor do you see anyone defending -- really the only people who think about it at all are people using it as evidence that men's bodies are unfairly exploited compared to women's. Meanwhile, when Jennifer Lawrence's nudes were leaked, huge subreddits were circulating them, everyone was talking about them, and the prevailing opinion was that she had no right to be upset and that it was her fault.

You'd be hard pressed to find someone jerking it to Hulk Hogan's sex tape. His was also released by someone who hated him in an effort to slander him -- which didn't really work because no one gives a shit -- whereas Jennifer Lawrence's were released by popular demand.

[–]teleekom 119ポイント120ポイント  (4子コメント)

While this is all true, this behavior is still hypocritical. The editor can eat a bucket of bees for the "We won't take it down" line alone.

[–]-_God_- 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

True. I think the above post was just trying to point out a realization that not a lot of people would have about this situation.

It's always nice to get a little perspective.

[–]Zifnab25 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

But then we're just in a turn-about-is-fair-play circlejerk.

If Gawker is terrible for circulating Hogan, is Reddit terrible for TheFappening? Or are both Gawker and Reddit in the right to leak these images? Because if Gawker is terrible, but Reddit is righteous, then you're engaging in the same contradiction as Gawker.

At the end of the day, I don't see anyone pointing to the Hogan video and saying, "Holy shit, what we did to Jennifer Lawrence was terrible and I regret ever doing it." I just see people announcing "Gawker is run by hypocrites, so points for team Fap!"

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It would be hypocritical if they had the same editorial staffs.

That said, Gawker is terrible. I'm not defending them. And I'm not defending the Hulk Hogan leak. But OP is ignoring the actual more common response to the Fappening, which was not outrage.

[–]ButtLusting 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is that a challenge??

[–]krackbaby -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet you won't blow me

[–]Versec 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

We are not discussing if one of the two things is better than the other. We are not even discussing the importance of the people involved, who leaked the pics or for what reason. We are discussing the way a sensationalistic, hypocrite, click-baity website tries to pass a violation of one's privacy as news and defence of free speech, while condemming the other. To both J. Lawrence and Hulk Hogan, their life was affectedby those events.

Gawker is known for outing people and calling it news:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/gawker-conde-nast-david-geithner_55a90c56e4b0c5f0322d0b2c

If pictures of me were leaked by someone for whatever reason, I have the same right to justice, even if it is only important to me.

[–]Clevername3000 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you're saying, 'ignore the context of the situation, ignore what they were writing about, look at the words they wrote!'

For one thing, Jezebel didn't write about the Hogan tapes, Gawker did. Just because Gawker owns Jezebel doesn't mean they have the same staff or guidelines.

[–]Snoozeybutton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gawker and Jezebel have different editorial staffs, so trying to make a point about their hypocrisy doesn't work. I agree that Gawker is a bunch of shit heads, but OP is trying to make a point about gender double standard that simply doesn't hold up in context.

[–]Zifnab25 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

We are discussing the way a sensationalistic, hypocrite, click-baity website tries to pass a violation of one's privacy as news and defence of free speech

Is this a criticism of Gawker or of Reddit?

[–]DiogenesTheHound 52ポイント53ポイント  (9子コメント)

Ah so it's okay because Hogan is unattractive.

[–]Snoozeybutton 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

Who said he was unattractive? And who said it was okay?

[–]BrocanGawd 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

They are clearly downplaying Hogan being exposed vs Female Celebs.

[–]Snoozeybutton -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Whose "they"? All the people who circulate and defend stolen nudes from female celebrities?

You can't hold Jezebel to what Gawker says because they have separate editorial staffs. Not to say that Jezebel doesn't spout ridiculous bullshit sometimes, but the "they" you are referring to are different people.

[–]BrocanGawd 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was referring to you actually and your attempt to downplay this clearly misandric bias by GAWKER.

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Jezebel and Gawker have different editorial staffs, so.......

And as far as downplaying, please show me where I said leaking Hulk Hogan's tape was okay?

[–]BrocanGawd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Downplaying doesn't mean you are saying it's "okay".

Downplaying means you're trying to make it seem less serious or worthy of outrage as the leaks of female celebs.

EDIT: As for Jezebel being just as disgusting as GAWKER her an example of Jezebel having a good time talking about how awesome it is to Physically Abuse your Male Partner:

http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever-beat-up-a-boyfriend-cause-uh-we-have

Can you imagine the outrage if a similar article was written about how cool it is for men abusing women?

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If we're comparing to the Fappening, it certainly is less serious and outrageous, just in the scope of how many people were affected.

If we're speaking in terms of defamation of character, Jennifer Lawrence took way more flack than Hulk Hogan, so her public image was far more affected.

On principle, though, they are the same amount of fucked up. In context, though, they are not the same.

[–]superwinner 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

DiogenesTheHound did, right above your comment

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like a bit of a nonsequiter

[–]candygram4mongo 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

You don't see people circulating the Hogan tape,

You mean, other than Gawker?

[–]elanciano31 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You don't see people circulating the Hogan tape

except a website with a massive amount of traffic. Now personally I don't think this is some conspiracy where fuckwit Gawker editors are getting together and saying "let's be asshole THIS way!" but it also isn't too much to want to hold the entirety of gawker media to a standard that you shouldn't be leaking private stuff like this, it serves absolutely no newsworthy purpose because the act of dissemination is the only thing that is news. This isn't reporting, it is manufacturing and it is gross if its jennifer lawrence or if it hulk hogan. But thats the problem with hiring a bunch of hacks who have wet dreams about being the next hunter thompson, when all they really are is a bunch of snide dickheads jus looking for a power trip.

[–]DoctorSteve 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I guarantee if Gawker was leaked the JLo nudes they'd have a totally different take on the story.

[–]Snoozeybutton -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hypotheticals aren't good for backing up an argument.

[–]DoctorSteve 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a sentence, it's not backing up anything. All I said was "If Gawker was given the leaks, they'd act different."

If Gawker wasn't give the Hulk Hogan nudes would they have even cared?

[–]FarmerTedd -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

None of that matters. Holy cognitive dissonance.

[–]superwinner 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

women's nudes get leaked it's a crime against humanity

Catering to their target market.. women. I do not know a many men who gives the much of a fuck about celebrity news of any kind.

[–]thilardiel 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was a big enough deal that a bunch of dudes on Reddit called it The Fappening. So...there's clearly a decent enough number of men that care, especially when there are pictures of naked women.

[–]superwinner 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

only when there are pictures of naked women

fixed it

[–]Wallace_Grover 13ポイント14ポイント  (12子コメント)

They're all by different authors?

[–]Orlitoq 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its almost like there is more than one standard to which each gets held.....

[–]lithedreamer 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

4 different people wrote these articles.

[–]BrocanGawd 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

So? The point is that GAWKER approved them all.

[–]ItsaMe_Rapio 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right, but that doesn't really matter in this case because it's not the writers who are deciding which material stays up on the website.

[–]rookieoftheyeard -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nvm

[–]Anzai 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worse than that, only famous women's nudes getting leaked is an invasion of privacy. The nobody that Hulk Hogan was fucking doesn't even get any consideration at all. She's not even part of the equation when deciding whether to show it or not.

[–]ficarra1002 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's because women are delicate beings. /s

[–]A_BOMB2012 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's not hilarious because he's a man, it's hilarious because it's Hulk Hogan.

[–]BrocanGawd 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nope. Over and over again you see the same reactions when the victim is male vs female. It's not because it's Hogan. It's because he's male.

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Over and over again? Maybe it's because I'm not constantly looking for examples, but I never hear about leaked male celebrity nudes. The only reason I heard about Hulk Hogan is because of this constant repost

[–]BrocanGawd 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reason yo never hear about leaked male nudes is because there is Never outrage over them like with female nudes. Because our society generally wants to protect and coddle women and ignore mostly injustice against men with few exceptions(usually tied to race or sexuality)

[–]Snoozeybutton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a popular subreddit dedicated to circulating stolen dickpics?

I don't think entire sites devoted to sharing stolen pictures of women is exactly "coddling."

[–]jfitzgerald5 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Your implication sounds wrong to me. They are both crimes, neither is funny. I think that is what you meant, but to me it came off as more of both should be funny.