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DiscussionMindless Monday, 24 August 2015 (self.badhistory)

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So, with that said, how was your weekend, everyone?

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[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 7ポイント8ポイント  (14子コメント)

I have a problem. I'm slowly falling in love with Austin. I had a couchsurfer over for the weekend, and he was more familiar with Austin than me, so he took me to some of his favourite places. I ended up on 6th St, watching a cowboy ride down the street on a perturbed looking horse. It was fun.

Also, I've entered the hell that is Ikea customer support. The holes for pegs on my bed are too small, so now there are bed bits strewn everywhere, but I have no way to actually take it back to the store, so I'm negotiating with Ikea to come get it and bring me a new one. It's not going well.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hammer the pegs harder until they go in. The snug fit will keep the bed together better.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

They don't go in. The holes are too small even for more hammering. Plus, when you start hammering, all the other pegs fall out because of the shockwaves.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Time to lube up your wood.

[–]sulendil 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That just sound... wrong for some reasons.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably because you're not imagining using enough lube.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like there's a dirty joke to be made here.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's always a dirty joke if you pound at it hard enough.

[–]Disgruntled_Old_TrotMorale Officer, Burpleson Air Force Base 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Welcome to Austin, or as we say, Howdy!

[–]byrel 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Austin is quite a nice place although I generally don't enjoy sixth that much :D

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like the trees. And the cowboy. And the horse carriages with the lights and flowers on them.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is Austin as handsome as he sounds?

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh, fantastically so.

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, he sounds like quite the charmer.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ooo! Speaking of charmers, my downstairs neighbour called me "sweetie." He is no longer my friend.

[–]UltachThe Scottish Enlightenment is Nationalist Propaganda 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I got into a very bizarre argument about John Philip Holland the other day. It was asserted that the Irish, as a people, are massively guilty of cultural appropriation. We appropriate a history of slavery from African-Americans to try and garner international sympathy, and most famous "Irish" people are actually English. Specifically, the claim was made that John Philip Holland was of Anglo-Dutch ancestry and Irish people wrongly tried to "claim" him. I and several others brought up the fact that his name was Seán Pilib Ó hUallacháin, and 'John Philip Holland' was the anglicized version, 'Holland' being the anglicisation of Ó hUallacháin in his area, while elsewhere on the island it was variably Nolan or Houlihan. They then claimed that he only adopted that name because he lived in Ireland, but he wasn't actually Irish. It was then brought up that he didn't speak English until he was 5 and grew up in an Irish speaking-family in a predominantly Irish speaking area with a mother named Máire Ní Scannláin.

The things people argue about.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's true, did you know potatoes aren't even native to Ireland? Thieves, the lot of them.

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Things that happened this weekend:

  • Went to a D Day reenactment

  • Saw my platoon sergeant charge a German mortar pit with a .38 in each hand

  • Learned the chorus to this song and this one which you shouldn't sing at work or around children.

  • Did my Grandpa Ferguson proud by drunkenly singing rowdy Scottish songs with a bunch of Canadians.

  • Hooked up with one of the Canadians (one of the women, to be clear) later that night in the tent of a friend who couldn't make the reenactment because of back surgery.

[–]lestrigone 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hooked up with one of the Canadians (one of the women, to be clear) later that night in the tent of a friend who couldn't make the reenactment because of back surgery.

I clearly have a dirty mind, but I'm seeing you making sweet sweet love with a Canadian while your friend looks awkwardly, not being able to turn his head away because of his injured neck.

Sorry for imaging you this way. :(

[–]hussard_de_la_mort"sandwich in my right, .45 in my other hand" 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes it even better is that the Canadian had fallen in with the group of WACs run by our unit commander's wife, who is also the older sister of the guy who owns the tent. I believe she sent him a gloating text message on my behalf about how I had gotten some in his tent before him, despite him owning it for like 3 years.

[–]_sekhmet_Lincoln fired Fort Sumter at the Confederate cannon balls 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

My history of furniture class has a drawing component where we have to draw examples of the furniture we are discussing and discuss the significance of these things. I spent an hour on my drawing last night and it left a lot to be desired. Im really hoping the professor doesn't put a lot weight in the drawings themselves as much as the information and work, because otherwise I'm screwed.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Now do you regret not learning how to draw straight lines in pre-school and how to color in shapes in second grade?

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know I always do.

[–]KaliYugazWhy didn't the Yamato use its Wave Motion Gun at Midway? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They kept making us do cut-and-paste poster projects well into high school. It was ridiculous.

[–]ReedstiltSwords, Pestilence Demons, and Bronze 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Who really discovered America? The answer may not surprise you!

I mentioned a couple days ago that I've wanted to do a BadHistory mega-post on Pre-columbian transoceanic interactions, discussing the good, bad, and occasionally ugly history of the topic. The History Channel's Who Really Discovered America? documentary (which, admittedly, dips into GoodHistory now and then when it debunks when a fringe theory doesn't live up to its rather lax standards) will likely serve as the foundation for the post, but I'll probably end up dealing with the topics in isolation rather than as part of the documentary, mainly because there are so many other fringe theories that get neglected. I find it suspicious that any Pre-columbian contact with Africa got omitted from the documentary; surely Abu Bakr II is worth mentioning if Saint Brendan or Hui Shen are. Also the documentary made little to no mention of contact theories going the other way.

To help fill in the gaps, if anyone has any Pre-columbian transoceanic contact narratives they'd like suggest, let me know.

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

A colleague of my dad's is investigating potential viking contact this summer. Her background is in archaeology and remote sensing, not strictly history. I'm interested in what she might end up finding.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Do you know where they are looking?

I always love to read norse contact research.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't forget the lost tribes of Israel and the romans in Mexico.

[–]ReedstiltSwords, Pestilence Demons, and Bronze 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Don't forget the Romans in Brazil as well.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Carthage in Virginia. The chin ease everywhere but we all know they were originally Hindi.

[–]ReedstiltSwords, Pestilence Demons, and Bronze 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Carthage in Virginia

Not sure I'm familiar with this one. I'm assuming its a more specific variant of Phoenicians in America; is there any specific 'evidence' for it?

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was in a really bad Tom Clancy Knock-off, I think. Any Phoenicians in America debunking is excellent.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would you want to cover the claims that some Maya colonized Georgia? Or is that too far out of the scope of what you're covering?

[–]ReedstiltSwords, Pestilence Demons, and Bronze 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Might be a bonus round.Richard Thornton deserves a BadHistory post one way or another.

[–]Turin_The_MormegilDAGOTH-UR-WAS-A-VOLCANO 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The various claims about the Newport Tower- Vikings, Chinese, or god knows who else- could be a post of their own.

[–]ReedstiltSwords, Pestilence Demons, and Bronze 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm surprised that Assassin's Creed 3 didn't find a way to incorporate it into their Templar mythos.

[–]sulendil 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know I know, Cracked isn't the best site for the factually correct history, but in one of today's article, we have gotten this line:

Technology CAN make life better, but it has to fit into society first.

(They're talking about dishwashers, a less laborious way to clean dishes, but are just not widely adopted due to many reasons such as costs)

Which is a good principle to hold on for those who studied technological improvements of the past and wanted to avoid Whig-ism. New and better technology didn't mean anything if the community didn't choose to use it. That's why Incas don't use wheels, not because they're more stupid than those white men from over the sea, because the wheels are inconvenient tools to traverse the rocky, uneven surfaces of the Andean.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've come up with a new exercise regime to get me ready for my PT test in October. Every morning I roll a D20, and I do as many pushups per hour as the dice says. Day one gave me 17 for the dice gods are dickholes.

Also, my cat snuck into the kitchen cabinets last night, stole the greenies bag and tried to open it up without me noticing. He's a nightmare.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

My cat got into a cupboard and couldn't get back out, leading to frantic meowing and clawing at 2 AM. So it could be worse.

One solution would be to swap out the D20 for a D10. That way, you could do pushups AND not have to do loads.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wedge did that once too, I think he's learned from that mistake.

I might need to do that. My abs hurt.

[–]Stone_tigrisDark Ages, Schmark Ages 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Finished reading 1000 years of annoying the french by Stephen Clarke, and it was a great read, but when I was going through the period of history that I know a lot about (12th century - 14th) I was just getting annoyed at how sensational it all was. Events were included not for significance but for a laugh, and were hardly fact-checked. Made me wonder how bad the other parts I didn't know a lot about were. Great book to read with a pinch of salt and for a laugh, but definitely just spreading misinformation.

[–]FeragornTime Traveling Space Jew 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just landed in Baltimore. Waiting for a shuttle back to CP, then I need to get situated in my apartment. I've been up since 4 AM. It's gonna be a long day.

[–]visforvI blame the time traveling Nazis 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'M STARTING CLASSES AGAIN TODAY AND I'M TERRIFIED OF BEING DROPPED BECAUSE OF AN IRS MESS UP DELAYING MY FAFSA AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry, universities are famous for being inefficient.

[–]WopadagoProtocols of the Frequentists of Zion 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry, my university dropped health insurance for grad students on the day it expired, didn't tell the rest of the faculty, then maybe kinda reinstated it for a bit.

[–]Turin_The_MormegilDAGOTH-UR-WAS-A-VOLCANO 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm still waiting to get my grad loans disbursed. Dammit Pitt, that's my rent money!

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

I love my university. my dorm was not finished on time so they are putting us up in really really nice hotels. Its pretty great.

Also, hi Sam!

Edit: Good Luck to all returning to school. :D

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Your university is nice, when that happened to some guys at mine, they put bunk beds in the dorm common area.

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be more precise, they included a clause in the contraction contract making the contractors liable for the cost of the housing to an equal level. This includes food since the rooms will have kitchens and a discount on housing among other things that will cost the contractor around a million.

I love my school

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Boss.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Mine had people in closets.

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd expect nothing less from Babadook Technical Institute.

[–]seaturtlesallthewayWikipedia is peer-viewed. 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

VCU?

[–]A_Crazy_CanadianEU4 is a Academic Source 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nope, CWRU. Its even in my posting history.

[–]lestrigone 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They found asbesthos in my university, so it's been closed for all summer and we have no clear idea when it will reopen. I envy you...

[–]pittfan46 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

2nd week of training. Got placed in my school and meeting my team.

Join /r/historicalworldpowers. Indus valley is open.

Howre you all?

[–]ciderczarUnrepentant Ouiaboo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh yea, This happened on Friday. Very cool find, I thought.

[–]xaxers 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I had someone say, "I know exactly who you are, [/u/xaxers's real name], you don't know who I am," in a thread the other day.

So, yeah.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should hunt them down. It's clearly the only way.

[–]xaxers 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, I just reported him and moved on.

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The whole controversy surrounding the supposed Gospel of Jesus's Wife is really entertaining.

[–]Quouarthe Weather History Slayer 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you think about it?

[–]Mictlantecuhtli 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't read any of the peer reviewed articles on the subject, so I can't really weigh in on the controversy. I think what's going to happen, though, is that there is going to be a lot of bruised egos and spilled ink over this tiny piece of paper.

It would be neat if Jesus had a spouse, but like, does it really matter if he did?

[–]turtleeatingaldermanAcademo-Fascist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If history has taught us one thing, it is that the Battle of Agincourt was in 1415.

I've got nothing to say, really.