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British Muslims taking aid to Calais migrants - BBC News (youtube.com)

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[–]SpudgunnFPTP did nothing wrong [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why have the BBC entitled it "British Muslims" when it's just a couple of guys? They normally do their best to avoid revealing their background when it's something bad.

[–]tempanought1 downCorbyn=1 year in the Gulag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Rotherham: "Asian Men"

Act of charity: "British Muslims"

[–]FloatingvoaterThey all float down here [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The BBC's treatment of anyone who isn't white is utterly patronising.

[–]Ijustwannastayinbed [スコア非表示]  (42子コメント)

It's quite counter productive to encourage bad behaviour. There are almost certainly better ways of dispensing charity. I saw the program when the BBC aired it and I think the BBC failed to exercise good judgement again. At best, these people are encouraging bad behaviour. At worst they are enabling criminals, and they have the BBC with them all the way. Very poor jugements all round.

[–]tubeyouer [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

How come they're not being called Asian anymore? Are they only Asian when they do bad stuff?

[–]SpudgunnFPTP did nothing wrong [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Because the BBC wants you to think Islam is a religion of peace and generosity. :)

[–]thatdamnedsalarianLib Dem (2.38, -4.92) | Social Libertarianish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Muslims + migrants? The perfect storm for this sub.

[–]Mike737 [スコア非表示]  (57子コメント)

Not surprising, they identify more with those migrants than they do with being British.

[–]HedgehogkillaFully Cucked SJW [スコア非表示]  (13子コメント)

You don't think it's possible to be British and want to give aid to those in need?

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

That's possible. It's more probable that British muslims will always side with other muslims instead of with Britain though.

[–]Kradiant [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Except the refugees aren't exclusively muslim. Those coming from African regions are predominately christian.

[–]commenian [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Untrue, the Africans are coming primarily from West Africa which is predominantly Islamic and Etritrea which is 50/50 Christian and Islamic.

[–]Kradiant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Eritreans make up almost a fifth of refugees seeking shelter in Europe so I suspect a good proportion of those in the Calais camps are Christian. Enough that they would build churches at the camps, which the video mentions.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Well first they will side with other muslims, next they will side with whoever is not white. There is nothing in Islam that is compatible with being British, so it's understandable that they will find it difficult to be both at the same time and will invariably pick being muslim over being British.

I don't know why you're pretending this isn't true. Most muslims will openly admit they're muslim long before they're British. You're trying to argue for something even they wouldn't argue for.

[–]MerinicusArch-Tory [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Ah now you show your hand, you're one of those types. Guess Mo Farah wouldn't consider himself British and there is no way he can be considered one.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

One of what types? What's funny is you think you've caught me out, "aha! see! you don't like islam" as though that's something iv'e tried to hide and haven't made it perfectly clear in every post iv'e made.

Ask Mo Farah if he thinks gays should be executed. If he says no, then on what grounds is he a muslim for rejecting something clearly spelled out in the quran? If he says yes, then on what grounds are his views compatible with Britain?

[–]artismyhustleBring in the first amendment and keep FPTP [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Being British means being a /po/ browsing reactionary.

[–]Bomyknocka [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Papercraft and Origami?

[–]jarh1000 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not having a choice in permanent demographic change in your country isn't too fun!

[–]jarh1000 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Muslims first British second

[–]SpudgunnFPTP did nothing wrong [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What's that - The latest Labour Party slogan?

[–]Chazmer87 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

only in this sub would we see acts of kindness and generosity by British Muslims and see it turned round to an attack on them.

[–]RigadonwildeMyOwnBulldog [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I see through all faith based charity- especially when it is so blatently racist

[–]blue_dicebut i'm here to tell you, everything gets worse forever [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

what is racist about this?

[–]-Acetylene- [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Racist against whom?

[–]Permanent_rose [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Its not an act of kindness and generosity. It's an act of solidarity with his fellow muslims.

He wouldn't be doing it if they were all Jewish or all Christian.

[–]thatdamnedsalarianLib Dem (2.38, -4.92) | Social Libertarianish [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How do you know that?

[–]mat20068The Calais Migrants' Only Defender [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

could you blame them? Read the comments in this thread and it would take you less than a minute to realise why Muslims wouldn't want to identify as british

[–]Mashulace [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Even if that were true (which you have no evidence for), it would be alienating comments like this responsible. When you have people telling you you're not part of a group, you're not likely to feel part of that group.

[–]Toffington [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

When you have people telling you you're not part of a group, you're not likely to feel part of that group.

Source?

[–]artismyhustleBring in the first amendment and keep FPTP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What is un-British about helping those in need?

[–]YoureASoldierBodie [スコア非表示]  (22子コメント)

Do you think they identify with being British less than a white person from Liverpool? Newcastle? Glasgow?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2166854/Muslims-likely-consider-British-white-counterparts.html

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (21子コメント)

They definitely do. To most muslims being British is just a by-product of where they were born, something they have had no choice in, and something they're not particularly proud or appreciative of. They're first and foremost muslim and will always side with other muslims before Britain.

I doubt, for instance, they're as generous to the thousands of white British people living in similar poverty on the streets of Britain.

[–]Kradiant [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Maybe if there wasn't such antipathy towards British muslims they would feel more comfortable identifying as British. Social cohesion is a two way street.

[–]commenian [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Nice try but every European country has the same issues with their Islamic populations, even ultra liberal ones such as Holland and Sweden. And if that isn't convincing enough, religious minorities in virtually all Islamic countries and treated as second class citizens. The evidence suggests the antipathy lies primarily on the Islamic side.

[–]Kradiant [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

What's your solution to the 'islamic problem' then?

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why did you quote 'islamic problem' as though that's what the person said?

[–]Kradiant [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

every European country has the same issues with their Islamic populations

Just paraphrasing. It implies the islamic population is the issue itself, rather than the issue of improving societal tensions from both directions.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not the job of the British people to make accommodations for incompatible cultures people bring with them. We have our own culture thanks and we quite like it. Feel free to have your own, but don't feel free to have it at the expense of mine.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No it's a one way street. Either join in or leave.

Would you say the same thing to Iranians if British people found it difficult to conduct a British lifestyle in Iran? If I moved to Iran and found it difficult to set up a British community with chip shops and pubs would you be telling Iranians about the antipathy towards British culture and this silly two way street of inclusion? Of course you wouldn't, you'd say i was an idiot for trying because that's not compatible with Iranian values, and you'd be 100% correct.

[–]HedgehogkillaFully Cucked SJW [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

I doubt, for instance, they're as generous to the thousands of white British people living in similar poverty on the streets of Britain.

There's quite a few mosques here in Birmingham that donate to local food banks, so you'd be wrong.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Which ones?

[–]YoureASoldierBodie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

http://as-suffahomeless.org

Started off as a couple of guys from a mosque/community centre thing. They now have a centre in the city where they serve food to the homeless 3-5 times a week. They've also expanded to other cities in the UK.

[–]HedgehogkillaFully Cucked SJW [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Here's one: http://centralmosque.org.uk/3/27/food-bank---help-the-helpless

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

One mosque donated food on one Friday almost a year ago.

[–]HedgehogkillaFully Cucked SJW [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Collections every Friday. There are more, you can Google it if you want.

Muslims aren't the cartoon villans that you think they are.

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'll find evidence for your argument shall I?

I don't think they're cartoon villains, i'm saying Islam is incompatible with being British. They're one or the other. They will say the same thing if you ask them. It's apparently only you (I'm guessing a fairly middle class white man or teenager) who doesn't think it.

Ask any muslim if all things were equal would they side with other muslims or with Britain and see what most of them say.

Of course you get a few westernised muslims, those who drink, eat pork, don't think gays should be murdered, and don't attend mosques other than on holidays, but they're no more muslim than i am in reality, it's more a cultural tradition than a belief. But if you find a muslim who believes the quran is the unalterable word of god, which you have to if you want to be muslim, their beliefs are incompatible with being British and they will openly admit it.

[–]logicalmaniakProgressive Social Constitutional Democratic Techno-Anarchy [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

Half of Scotland doesn't identify as "British".

[–]kbox [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Tough, they are.

[–]saor-alba [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I'm Scottish before Muslim.

I'm not British at all.

[–]SpudgunnFPTP did nothing wrong [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

You can't be Scottish without therefore being British. Whether you like it or not.

[–]signed7 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

The 45% who voted no last time might have something to say to that...

[–]SpudgunnFPTP did nothing wrong [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The people who inhabit the island of Britain are British. Were the SNP planning to remove Scotland from Britain through a series of detonations?

[–]mantheharpooons [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Fucking hell, comments here are absolutely miserable.

[–]-Acetylene- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This sub really has gone to complete shit. I really, really, hope it's being brigaded, because if the majority of the UK does look at a Muslim giving aid and decides he's racist/plotting to install sharia/encouraging crime, then that's fucking depressing.

[–]HedgehogkillaFully Cucked SJW [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A lot of these people are regular posters. No sign of a brigade, this place is just a shithole.

[–]YoureASoldierBodie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Good on 'em.

[–]GreatBritishSenseTraditional Britain Group [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This just proves that Muslims aim to undermine the country from the inside. They should be deported along with the illegal economic immigrant criminals they are so eager to assist.

[–]15243asd1Tory scum [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is just encouraging them to live on the fairly dangerous streets and risk their lives each day getting to the UK. If these people truly cared about the migrants why wouldn't they encourage them to claim asylum in France?

[–]tempanought1 downCorbyn=1 year in the Gulag [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

reported on by BBC News

A triple whammy!

[–]Permanent_rose [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Interviewer: Why is this important to you? Why do you want to do it?

Because the majority of the migrants are muslim. And because he can't wait to get as many muslims in the country as possible. Why do you think.

[–]FloatingvoaterThey all float down here [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At least we know where all the food bank food is going now.