/gamergatehq/ - #GamerGate and #NotYourShield

they're complaining about it being off topic. Tranny's are a weird topic to discuss. It's hard to convince people that gender is completely biological, because they look at it as the same thing as gay rights and shit.

It's a fight that just can't be won at the moment.

>>255471

But both are mental sickness.

>>255472

So is autism.

>>255472

or mental quirks. don't see why it needs to be celebrated, but they don't really need to be gassed either

live and let live

Total Faggot is really disappointing though. Can't believe he fell in the same SJW trap

>>255476

Hence the need for treatment….Not surgery.

>>255489

I wonder how long until he fully turn on GG and condemn them as evil right winger terrorist rapists.

>>255501

KiA will still ride his dick anyways

I don't see a problem in what he did. It's his business and he can run it how he wants. For the record, if I had a guest and people made her feel unsafe, I'd lose my shit too. You can disagree with her choices in life all you want but making someone I chose to be a guest on MY show feel unsafe doesn't inspire just personal anger, it inspires professional anger.

Agree or not about trans people but they're still fucking people for Christ's sweet sake.

>>255529

>What I believe is real

This is tranny logic, so using tranny logic.

>I don't feel trannies are people

>Because I feel it, it is real

>Trannies aren't people.

Can't have it both ways fucker. Either what people believe IS real or it ISN'T real.

>>255468

this thread is confusing

is TB even still a fan of gg?,last i heard from him he was complains about trolls ruining his life

>>255530

I didn't say that. It doesn't matter what I believe personally when, professionally, I have this person on my show. When I have a guest, that guest needs to feel comfortable being on my show otherwise it looks forced or fake.

Don't put words in my mouth.

>>255531

Like I said, this isn't personal, it's professional. It was his choice to make because it's his business. My line is when my fans make my guests uncomfortable. It sounds like that's his line too. If I have a serious problem with a person, they wouldn't be on my show.

>>255537

YOU pick a side when you invite them on your show and demand others buy into their bullshit or ban them. I don't need to put words in your mouth, you already made an action that expressed your stance.

>>255539

If their gender identity isn't pertinent to the show's topic, what does it matter?

I actually want to interview a trans or few because I have theories and ideas I'd like to hash out and I would put ground rules in from the start.

Even then, while it would be about their transiness, it wouldn't be advocating for or against it. I would make it clear that these are all opinions and you can make your own decisions.

>>255542

That was my point too. Hate 'em all you want but they're still people and people, no matter how wrongheaded to your point of view, deserve the barest modicum of decency and respect.

>>255542

This.

>>255541

The moment they step on the show and you use their tumblr pronouns you're making a statement of support. The people against trannies aren't against them because "they're evil monsters", it's because they're not fucking stupid. They believe in science and this funny thing called biology. They think you're making a mentally ill person worse and aren't happy with you doing so.

Anyone who cares about making "trannies" an issue in GG just need to hang their selves already. There's a reason you faggots were chased off to your failure of a containment board.

>>255547

I disagree (especially given my theories are a lot similar to yours.) Just having them on the show and agreeing to respect their request for their preferred pronoun (for comfort's sake) does not immediately make my show a haven for them or even say I'm ok with it. It means I want to move things along so I'll humor them.

Let me put it this way, when they're in therapy to fix this, they are first called by their preferred pronoun before slowly inching them back towards reality, right?

>>255547

I'd buy that if they had a feasible solution to fixing whatever issues they have.

But when your solution is just "smacking them in the face until they get it" it shows that you don't really know what you're talking about.

Get mad at medical science for failing, not the person with the problem.

>>255553

Exactly this. Besides, putting someone on your show doesn't mean you support them. Look at Pakman.

>>255552

giving into someones delusions is enabling their mental health. You go to therapy to break your mental health problems and gain control of them.

>>255553

Medical science is shit for mental health, it's a soft science that urgently needs to become a hard science but that isn't the point. Post op trannies still kill themselves in the same figures as non-post op trannies. So butchering your genitals doesn't solve the problem, as we see with similar conditions that make people want to cut bits off themselves to feel "like my soul feels ;_;"

>>255556

Using the pronouns supports them.

>>255557

I agree with you about the surgery and the problems with modern psychology but I disagree with your "more dakka" approach to curing them. Mental issues need to be handled very carefully. To be fair, the entire body is pretty goddamn frail when it comes to fiddling with it.

And I would know about the whole frail body thing AND the whole dangerous surgery thing because I'm almost as crippled as wheels and I've had a lot of surgeries over the years.

You think these people don't piss me off with their reliance on needless surgery? Not all of them (not even most of them) do the surgery. A lot of them can't afford it. The surgery, in my opinion, is pure vanity and narcissism… and I'm none too fond of the hormones either.

Maybe it's being crippled from birth but I only use medication I need.

>>255557

>Medical science is shit for mental health, it's a soft science that urgently needs to become a hard science but that isn't the point.

It is the point. You fix med science's orthodoxy, everything else falls into place.

>Post op trannies still kill themselves in the same figures as non-post op trannies.

Med science is using SRS as a harm-reduction measure and it isn't working.

Here's the problem. They don't have any other options to fix this.

>So butchering your genitals doesn't solve the problem, as we see with similar conditions that make people want to cut bits off themselves to feel "like my soul feels ;_;"

I'm curious about something. What if you're born with both? Is it ok to do it then? Because I get your point, but I know there's cases where HRT and SRS is legitimately needed.

>>255559

Herms are different, imo. Hermaphroditism is a legitimate disease.

>>255557

It's like having dinner with someone who maybe votes differently or has wildly different political views. Do you lay into them about how you think they're insane for having different views or do you just try to have a nice dinner and remain respectful, agreeing to disagree? If someone wants me to call them by a nickname, I'm not going to resist simply because it isn't the legal one on their birth certificate.

>>255562

And even if they are trans and I do disagree about this and that, if I have them on my show, I'm going to be respectful because, again, it's professional. I may disagree with them but they're still people and I treat people with respect.

>>255468

TLDL: LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE I AM!

TB is a coward.

>>255564

Standing up for a guest on his show isn't exactly what I would call cowardice.

>>255564

/pol/tards gonna /pol/tard

>>255564

Or maybe it's his sincere belief that the people acting like faggots were acting like faggots.

People that can't just ignore trans are why I have to listen to how fucking oppressed they are all the time. Thanks, faggots.

retards out in full force

I don't really give a shit about transgendered people in the sense that I don't really give a shit about anyone

as long as they're doing the right thing they can go on doing whatever the want

the only time it would ever matter is if I'm about to have sex

it would be nice if we, this board, gave a little less shits than we currently do though

not for MUH PR

but because, not unlike every other group out there, we also have transgendered supporters amongst us

and I would hate to, nor do we gain anything from, alienat(ing) them

on the subject of one Literally Wu, I don't hate her because she was born with a Y chromosome (and continues to have one from now until time erases her from history), but because she's batshit insane and unethical as fuck

I'd almost go as far as accusing some of the posters ITT of just giving aGG material to work with, but I know that's probably not true

To the few that actually believe it's purely a mental illness (as opposed to the rest that have either been in the trenches too long fighting the likes of Wu, edgelords being edgy or Ghazi making screenshots), why can't it be a deformity? Is it really that much of a stretch that your body can develop as the wrong sex? We know for a fact chromosomes can go wrong, that's what Downs, Turners, and a bunch of other shit is. Should people born with deformities be stuck with them, purely because they were born with them? Because that's what you're saying.

Now this doesn't make them special snowflakes or somehow more enlightened then everyone else, which is the how SJWs view them. It make them people, most of whom just want to get on with their lives, like everyone else. Yes there does seem to be a little crazier then everyone else on average. It's the nature of the problem they have it's not going to be a normal upbringing. This doesn't mean they permission to run around smearing shit on the wall mind you, again like SJWs would say they do. That's the real problem, give people permission to be terrible and they'll often be terrible.

>>255589

>Should people born with deformities be stuck with them, purely because they were born with them?

This caught my interest because of my many, many, many disabilities (of the physical variety no less.) Something ALL cripples should learn is to accept the cards we're dealt. I am legally blind. Chances are, I'll always be legally blind because RoP hasn't been fixed yet and it doesn't look like it'll be fixed any time soon.

That being said, if there was a super risky surgery out there, some RoP sufferers would take it. I wouldn't. I can live how I am. It's not well but it's well enough, dig?

My biggest problem with transtrenders (and some transgenders) is their reliance on the surgery and the hormones to make them better. That's not the end-all. That's not always the best option. The best option in most of these cases is for them to accept the body they've got. Make it work for them as much as possible before MAYBE doing some cosmetic shit or hormones down the line.

I've been through surgeries. I've been on meds. I've got a cortisone injection coming up next week. They're not fun. They shouldn't be done frivolously. That's where my problem lies with the "trans community." (aka the transtrenders and a small portion of actual trans folk.)

And I STILL wouldn't allow my fans to disrespect one if I had them on my show. Call it a standard of decency.

It's interesting to note that there's even more bitching and moaning about this from the other side. He is somehow transphobic and SJW at the same time if you go by both sides. What a feat.

>>255589

From the medical science currently available on the subject (which I fully admit needs to be expanded on a LOT), so far, gender disphoria is primarily a brain disorder. In that case, while the chromosome gender is assigned as male, the brain is convinced that the gender of its host is actually female. (Or vice versa.)

Honestly, I am of the opinion that, with the brain literally being confused as to what gender the person is, the best FIRST course of action is therapy and counseling. The problem there is that therapy and counseling are also fields of study that are in desperate need of improvement, so right now, their ability to help people is pretty hit or miss.

I also think that it's best for the people involved to try to learn to accept the bodies they were given. As far as helping someone do that, who cares if a guy dresses like a girl, or a girl dresses like a guy? Who even cares if they change their name when dressed as their "other" self?

However, while I think acceptance of self is the best way to go, I also recognize that there are a select few of these individuals who genuinely cannot make themselves be happy without making the full alteration to the gender of their choice. I don't think that decision should be made lightly, and honestly, it already requires a good deal of psychological evaluation and therapy before someone can be approved for it.

The problem to me lies in the fact that there are more people demanding the surgery than actually NEED it, and with my aforementioned issues with therapy needing to be improved, getting through the screening is fairly easy for everyone who really pushes for it. That's what leads to the unfortunate individuals who still find themselves as unhappy after surgery as they were before.

Honestly, I personally think it'd be best if we stopped labeling EVERYTHING. Do we really need labels for gay, straight, trans, whatever? Can't people just love people, and that be the end of it? That's probably the most healthy way any of us could view this whole issue, but that would also take those labels away from SJW "trendies" who want to use them as weapons against their hated group of the week.

>>255603

Wait, hold up.

How the hell is TB being transphobic for calling out assholes for being assholes?

>>255611

He talked shit about "toastkin" a while back and defended the Pillars of Eternity poem, ergo he's Hitler.

>>255614

So basically, some people are angry at him on this side because he's defending someone who was on his show and got trolled by assholes, while the SJWs are angry at him for the usual laundry list of stupid reasons?

That pretty much cover it?

Reminder that homosexuality was never actually dismissed as a disease - it was merely removed from the list due to public pressure.

>>255616

Yeah, apparently some people were making a bunch of noise about his guest having a manly voice or whatever and he's just saying he won't deal with it and they can fuck off. He's just being a decent moderate and saying to be civil.

That said, he says this is tens of people out of the two million odd who'll listen to that video, so this looks like a bit of an overreaction. "Ten people acted like dicks just because this chick has one, two million give no fucks" would have been much shorter and less drama-creating.

>>255487

Let me pose this question to you: What kind of treatment?

Thus far, no treatment for transexual people has actually worked except for gender reassignment surgery or whatever.

I have no real position personally on all this trans shit. I just think it's laughably dumb when anti-trans people say "they just need therapy not surgery!" when the only therapy that has been consistently proven to work IS surgery.

>>255597

>>255605

I have a similar view on my own gender issues. I can live day to day as I am, with the current technology I can only see buggering about with things ending badly. Trading one set of lies for another set of lies with severe medical problems on top of that seems rather silly to me. But it doesn't seem silly to everyone, the trick of course being identifying those people (as you rightly say, through therapy and counseling).

You are correct in saying it's currently too easy to get the surgery done, they don't fully understand what that other set of problems entails. How much of that is "I made a mistake about my gender" and how much is "I've been butchered" I don't know. If there was a pill that made you a real woman in a month I do wonder how many of the people who regret it now would regret it then. Same with your eyes, RoP be damned, we'll have mass produced bionics soon. Within a couple of decades you may be able to see better then normal eyes, would you do it then?

>>255605

Honestly I don't much care about the labels, the identities, etc. I just think traps are fucking hot. If a dude has a dick and tits and a female face and figure and passes themselves off as a woman and is called she? That's hot as fuck man, I'd jump that.

>>255624

That doesn't mean they should jump under the knife at the first opportunity though. It should be an option, in my opinion… the very last option.

>>255625

Hah! Second time today in a chan both my wife and I have been quoted without people knowing. I love it!

I would get my right eye done but ONLY if the chance for complications were to my liking. Different people have different lines but I want at least an 80% chance of successful integration before I would go under the knife for bionics. Give the eggheads enough time to get the bugs out, you know?

My left eye has been blind since about 10 days after birth. For all intents and purposes, I've never seen out of it. I am not unleashing that head-fuck in my 50s (I'm 30s now.)

>>255627

Yeah, I've got a thing for traps too… not pertinent to the discussion but you're not alone. What's really weird is I like my women tomboyish and hairy. No accounting for taste, right?

>>255625

You should be aware that there are two people typing from this IP. My husband is this one >>255597 and mine is this one >>255605 (You).

As for the thing with his eyes, he's already stated that if there were a surgery to fix it with a 95% success rating, he'd get the one eye he currently sees out of fixed, but he'd leave his fully blind one alone. Something about his brain going crazy if he could suddenly see out of both eyes. I used to think that was insane of him, but going over the mental issues revolving around gender issues, I can sort of see where he's coming from on it, since it probably would confuse his brain to have full vision after years of crappy vision.

>>255624

According to Tufts or whoever, even surgery doesn't help. They come back and SAY they feel better but they still have all the underlying depression and psychological problems they had before. Because of that they encourage trans people to live as whatever they think they should be, but not to do the surgery since it's irreversible, potentially dangerous and seemingly ineffective.

>>255634

See, I like that approach. Like we said, you should accept what you are before you can pretty yourself up (in your own head anyway.)

I couldn't listen to the recent TB podcast.

Every time the tranny talked it just sounded like a man pretending to be a woman and i just couldn't stand the voice.

just imagine the nostalgia critic, but he's always using his high pitch voice all the time.

>>255634

One major problem with the surgery is that it's cosmetic, the person sacrifices their ability to orgasm to do it, and fucking is one of the biggest gender expressions we have and the only one you really need genitals for. Hormones n'at to make your body passable? Fine, but cutting up your junk in an age where a lot of people want traps is a bit extreme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_integrity_identity_disorder

"Body integrity identity disorder (BIID, also referred to as amputee identity disorder[1]) is a psychological disorder wherein sufferers feel they would be happier living as an amputee, or being "transabled."

So. trannies are just the product of a sick mind.

>>255542

Pretty much this. I really don't care one way or another but will call people their gender of choice.

>>255529

no one is saying they aren't people.

we're just saying trans people are mentally ill because sex is biological and gender isn't real.

i bear no ill will towards trans people, and i believe them when they say they think they are another sex. they are wrong, but i get that they honestly believe that.

fuck pc delusion pandering. 2+2=4 around these parts.

'unsafe' is an SJW buzzword nowadays that just means 'my feelings are hurt by your dissent'; it's a silencing tactic.

>>255645

>no one is saying they aren't people.

>

>we're just saying trans people are mentally ill because sex is biological and gender isn't real.

This is the GamerGate forum, would you please fuck off back to /pol/ already? KIA was right when they banned talking about this stupid shit. It has nothing to do with video games, ethics or censorship. It's almost like it's some kind of long term shill op.

>>255645

>i bear no ill will towards trans people, and i believe them when they say they think they are another sex. they are wrong, but i get that they honestly believe that.

And if I'm trying to run a show with them on it, I'd rather not open the can of worms. If they identify as woman, I'll refer to them as such. I might fuck it up because I rely on audio cues over visual ones because of my eyes but I'm a gracious host. This isn't some grandstanding thing, it's a "I need to do my job" thing and antagonizing people who are some form of sick (severity depends on who you ask) does not let me do my job in an efficient and comfortable way.

>>255529

>For the record, if I had a guest and people made her feel unsafe

>her

>unsafe

Fuck off left wing co-opter.

>>255680

Fuck off, divide and conquer shill.

>>255680

I'm actually a minarchist.

>>255682

I agree.

>>255690

I know this is off-topic but what's with the pony? Are you one of those bronies? If so, I have some questions for you, oh yes indeedy.

What does any of that have to do with anything? How does her being a tranny affect her ability to be a guest on a fucking cooptional podcast (that she had visited multiple times before if I recall correctly).

How does it impair her ability to talk about vidya? This is exactly what THEY are doing: Identity politics. Don't attack her arguments, don't attack her credibility, attack what she is. And it's stupid as fuck.

>>255698

I did my part. The wife and I speak reason as do a lot of other people. It's just a few idiots who think the way to help people is to beat them over the head with the truth.

People (especially kool-aid drinkers) don't respond well to pressure from any direction.

>>255698

Good. The more they read the truth the higher the probability that they'll actually accept it someday.

>>255696

No, you still need to be respectful about it. If you really want to help someone with mental illness dont be dick about it.

>Pic related.

Can you give more info about it?

>>255698

That was expected. I'm sure this will please their egos and allow them to be on moral high ground again, at least when they stop doing that toward TB even if he is on their side of issue (but that would be expecting to much from ghazi)

>Thread (trigger warning for everything).

My sides.

>>255705

I read that thread and a few others there. I feel dirty. They lie… I mean they lie to themselves, to each other, to people outside the fold. They just don't get it.

I mean quite a few people here don't get it either and I'm sure the wife and I don't get a whole hell of a lot in the grand scheme of things but honesty, above all else, is the most important virtue.

God I hate liars! At least here there a few decent people along with the shitposters, /pol/tards, and muck-rakers.

So thank you, few decent people. You keep me coming back every so often.

>>255705

Yeah, I personally don't really care. Just a heads up to be vigilant for shilling

>>255705

If being a dick is telling the truth and not enabling somebody's psychological condition then I'm going to be a dick and I don't give a shit. I refuse to submit to cultural marxism and the destruction of humanity as we know it.

>Can you give more info about it?

Here's an article about Walt Heyer, he recovered from transsexuality, but unfortunately not before politically correct doctors mutilated his body. If I was him I would have sued the fuck out of them.

https://archive.is/SxbrY

>>255715

But why? Why bother? This was a stream about vidya. You're just bringing your own identity politics into it. This is EXACTLY what we fought AGAINST. So fuck off 8chan you identity shill.

>>255715

You still prefer to be dick instead uproach people with problems in best way to convince them.

It really make it worse since people who really feel like having wrong genger should have option to fix their brain, at least equally available or accepted (if not more) than sex change (what is not really full sex change anyway).

Kinda sad to think more people could be helped in way it dont mutilate their bodies.

>>255717

This

ITT - edgy cunts who think they're Ben Shapiro but not half as intelligent

>>255715

That article follows my own theories pretty closely although I think there must be some kind of hormonal imbalance or something that predisposes this specific kind of reaction to psychological trauma.

Niggling point but still.

>>255717

Motherfucking ALL of this!

>>255721

INSISTING on said truth where IT ISN'T NEEDED _IS_ politics. And since this IS about identity, it IS identity politics.

What the hell are you doing on 8chan if you care about people's identity? I could be a toastkin for all you know, and you still address my POINTS, not my hot crunchy TOASTINESS.

>>255726

Address the argument, not the arguer. Debate 101. Too few people remember that old chestnut.

If you're a toastkin than I'm an ablekin. I'm an able man born into a crippled man's body. I will not be oppressed. I will drive. I will fire guns. I will stargaze.

MUH ROP!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Gotta make your own fun. My rule of thumb is "my fun shouldn't step on your fun. It should walk beside it, if possible." Hey, it's what us (legally) blind folk are taught to do in real life anyway.

>>255728

So why insist on talking about Laura being a tranny? It doesn't do any for the conversations that were had on the podcast.

>>255729

You either misquoted or you need to use the eyes god gave you to read. I was agreeing with you, Toasty.

Slow down, kiddo. Read. Comprehend. God I feel old now. I've always been a grumpy old man trapped in a crippled guy's body. Mom used to call it having an old soul.

>>255721

Serious question, are you somewhere on the autistic spectrum? Because your complete lack of tact and inability to understand how to interact civilly with human beings, mental illness or not, suggests that might be the case.

>>255729

Ok, so you know I'm >>255728 's wife (hence the same IP).

And you, anon, really need to take a reading comprehension class. The husband's whole POINT was to treat people like people, and not bring up gender-identity issues where they aren't the focus of the conversation. TB's rant was about how people commenting on his podcast made a trans woman feel unsafe, and how he doesn't need listeners like that. The husband and I agree with him on that.

If you still don't get it, seriously, go back to school, cause I think you missed a few English classes.

>>255732

Yeah sorry. Looked at the wrong post.

>>255740

No worries. Keep calm and all that.

>>255710

Almost forgot. While I've got you here (I hope,) what's the appeal of MLP? I don't get it. It looks like shit, it sounds like a fairy's cinnamon-flavored fart, and it was made for little girls with little-girl messages en tow. Also forced memes. That shit (and so much other shit named Anthony Burch) ruined Borderlands 2.

Or did they change that part when the demographics shifted? I heard Weird Al was on there once.

Well for fuck sake. Even if it is a mental illness. Even if it is causing 100% of transgenders to kill themselves.

So fucking what.

Not like it would be the first mental illness in history, that is deemed acceptable and not requiring forceful treatment.

How the fuck are transgender people anyone's problem?

Yes there are minority of authoritarian assholes with SJW mindset among us. People who want to force other people to bend into their views of what is acceptable. Fucking ironic is, that this anti-libertarianism is most common among revolters.

And yes it is fucking seperate issue from starting gender change process to 8 yr kid. When we talk about fucking adults who gives a fuck.

Fucking disgusting sometimes to be in same camp with these evangelical christians who are pretty much equal to our enemy.

But then again, gamergate is not something where you can choose your allies.

Oh fuck I really vomited some feelies there. But I fucking felt like it. I think fucking morons, including these biblical motherfuckers do have right to say their moronic shit. And demand that everyone is like them… And that right of their's is something I defend.

But fuck me, it is sometimes hard.

>>255745

To add.

Then again those chatroom comments are always in the kill or kikes department.

>>255758

That is… entirely wrong. What he said was he wasn't going to let people calling themselves his fans get away with making a guest he booked for his show feel in any way harassed or threatened.

Nothing to do with social justice.

Everything to do with good business.

You should listen to the second half. He has some harsh words for the SJWs who made actual bigots think he was just like them. He hates extremists and, frankly, I don't fucking blame him.

Learn to listen.

anti-sjws really are as easily triggered as sjws.

>>255745

>Not like it would be the first mental illness in history, that is deemed acceptable and not requiring forceful treatment.

It's one of the first mental illnesses, along with homosexuality, where those in positions of power are trying to force everybody to not only enable the mental illness but deny that it's a mental ilness at all, including pressuring the doctors (using legal force in some places) to not give the patient the proper treatment.

>>255763

And that is at least trillion dollars of MY taxes

>>255762

Such are extremists. Their beliefs turn into their own private cults. It's narcissism. They're right and everyone else is wrong.

Humility is needed all across the board from Anita Sarkeesian and whoever her doppleganger is on our side on down to the plebs on Ghazi, KIA, and here.

>>255763

What is food like where you live? I live near San Francisco and I can tell you for a fact that that shit ain't happening here… or if it is, it's not happening often. The people in power here are pretty obvious about trans being therapy-first rather than surgery-first.

>>255763

I would say that forcing doctors to do something is still seperate issue of letting some Michael live as Michelle

>>255761

He think that accepting proper science is abhorent and that if you don't agree with him about trannies and fags then you're an extremist. I say the opposite since it was actual extremists that forced the cultural marxism throughout society in the first place. Extremist's that refuse to accept objective reality and had to attack scientists and infiltrate institutions to get their way.

>>255767

Same here with therapy. Actually requires some years before get to surgery. Most effects of hormone treatment can be reversed

>>255769

>Cultural Marxism

Oh fuck, not you! I remember you. Take your tinfoil hat and go back to /pol/. We're talking about the real world here.

I feel like an idiot for not seeing that sooner.

>>255770

The surgery is kind of a big deal and all (for the surgeon as well as the patient in this litigious fucking state.) You should have seen the reams of paperwork I had to go through to get a cataract taken out of my seeing-eye.

>>255767

>I live near San Francisco

Yeah, I can believe that.

>and I can tell you for a fact that that shit ain't happening here… or if it is, it's not happening often. The people in power here are pretty obvious about trans being therapy-first rather than surgery-first.

Well of course they're going to have some therapy first. The doctors need some kind of protection from being sued. Although I think any doctor who has performed a "sex change" should be anyway.

>>255774

>Although I think any doctor who has performed a "sex change" should be anyway.

Oh do ya.

>>255774

>Yeah, I can believe that.

Ha. I'm a minarchist, like I said earlier. Not everyone here in a libtard… in fact, up here, everyone's pretty god damned mean and angry to tell you the truth. They don't pay attention to cripples though. We make them uncomfortable.

>Although I think any doctor who has performed a "sex change" should be anyway.

Surgeons are told what surgeries to do either by their bosses or by their costumers. They are merely the tools. The only time they should be sued is if they fuck up a surgery.

>>255780

I reject cultural marxism. And I think… Go pol

>>255778

>Surgeons are told what surgeries to do either by their bosses or by their costumers.

They can refuse performing "sex changes" under the hyppocratic oath. Do no harm. "Sex changes" are harmful and lead to more suicides.

TL;DR version: Shut the fuck up and go the fuck away you fruitcake-nutbar-extremist-martian.

>>255780

Fine! Go back to fucking Mars! I'm no SJW! I hate the fuckers! They're the reason I can't get a job because "those poor handicapable people should have special standing in the courts so nobody will ever discriminate against them again." Never mind the fact that nobody WAS! I graduated high school in 02. Know how many jobs I've had? NONE! Not even one fucking interview! I worked with the Department of Rehabilitation for 12 years before they told me I was unhireable due to the fact that my lungs are very weak and if I dropped at work, I could sue the company and I'd win (never mind the fact that "sue" is a bad word to me.)

Also, not that it's on the point but I'm pissed now, the environmentalists ruined my asthma inhalers. Now they don't work for SHIT all for some "save the o-zone" horseshit. All these goddamn feel-good laws fuck hard workers like me who want to work and prove ourselves more than any mere able-body could ever HOPE to understand!

So fuck you, you fuckin' tinfoil-hat wearing martian and fuck you again for DARING to say that I'm in ANY WAY like those deceitful patronizing fuckers!

>>255783

And then they get fired! WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOUR HEAD? How can you be this unfathomably stupid? Do you do the drugs? Did you acquire brain damage on entry? What is your major fucking malfunction?

Jesus Christ in a sidecar do I hate lunatics like this. If you're not with him, you're an SJW. I hope you realize on your deathbed how irredeemably deluded you've been and then you shed a tear for your wasted life.

I was done with TB after this episode

7:10 calls GG a waste of time, an echo chamber and a hugbox (while sitting in his own goony beard echo chamber hugbox) says people concerned with ethics in game journalism should talk about it without "a label", meaning don't organize, share information etc

15:30 says he doesn't want to get close to his fans because he's in a "position of power" over them, which explains why he chimps out anytime they don't fall in line and behave exactly how he wants them to

Fuck that guy. Just another fedora tipping asshole hypocrite who doesn't want politics injected into gaming unless he's the one doing it.

>>255780

>That's all you SJW faggots

People who dilute the term (like SJWs, ironically) are doing a disservice to both the debate and the people involved.

>Social Justice Warrior (abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term used to denote a person who frequently expresses extreme and often contradictory and/or cognitively dissonant beliefs about social justice. This typically results in abject bigotry on behalf of the expressing party, ironically opposing their ostensible positions as proponents of tolerance.

https://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=SJW

>>255783

And further, "do no harm" is not ANYWHERE in the Oath of Hippocrates, which I happen to have framed on my wall, due to the fact that my grandfather was a physician. You're getting confused with one of the primary tenets of Wicca.

What the Oath of Hippocrates actually says, is "I will follow that system of regimen which - according to my ability and judgement - I consider for the benefit of my patients."

Unfortunately for you, you're also behind the times, though. Physicians in the U.S. are no longer required to memorize or follow that Oath, and it's a shame that's the case.

Aside from that, if you really want doctors to stick to that Oath the way we have to follow laws, then every doctor in the world would be required to financially care for the people who taught them their trade. But I guess you only care about the parts that are convenient to your argument, don't you?

I don't have a problem with the trannies. I do have a problem with LauraK though - she was the one who kicked up a twitter stink about some no name Xbox presenter making fun of her to the crowd…and it turned out nothing of the sort actually happened.

Which again was a precursor to gamergate because the usual suspects ran the story without fact checking or confirming it with witnesses.

>>255791

>Co-optional

>Co-opt

Funny I only just noticed this

>>255772

>Take your tinfoil hat and go back to /pol/.

Gas yourself

>>255803

Got shit to do today, /pol/ly. Sorry.

>>255798

It was like just a brief summing up and it's what doctors often say when referring to the oath. Also I just checked and there is a part that's a lot closer to "do no harm" than what you posted:

>I will use treatments for the benefit of the ill in accordance with my ability and my judgment, but from what is to their harm and injustice I will keep them

I didn't know that doctors in the USA weren't required to follow it anymore though, that's fucked up. Now I don't know if that's the case in the UK too. So I was wrong about it being required, thank you for correcting me. See, if I get things wrong I actually like to be corrected so that I know what's right if it comes up again.

Ever notice how easily SJWs use trannies as a trump card to control thought, speech, and behavior?

>>255818

>it feels in some way close to stuff like Adventure Time or other CN shows

That explains it. That's after my time. I split when the old stuff did. Well that doesn't sound nearly as odious as all that, just not my cup of coffee. Too much sugar (I take 1% milk to cut the acidity and never any sugar, incidentally.)

I agree with your other points, for what it's worth.

>>255819

They try to use us cripples too. Honestly, they use whoever lets them use them and the disabled in the US are way too sheltered and way too willing to believe authority figures. I was for a long time. Jail fixed me. Don't drink and walk home in California, kids.

>>255818

LGBTUVWXZY, and whatever other letters morons decide to add, is cultural marxist. #GamerGate literally CANNOT WIN without fighting cultural marxism. Even if you go #FullTotalBiscuit and you decide to simply focus on journalists being all together in a clique covering and financially supporting their friends, you have to look at what the clique is. Are they all bowling buddies? Nope. It's all cultural marxist bullshit that brings them together. So if you're not going to fight cultural marxism then you're a useless idiot.

>>255829

And this is how we recognize you from /pol. You use that EXACT argument whenever you pop up.

Remember, buttercup, IPs can lie, but repeated patterns don't.

>LGBTUVWXZY, and whatever other letters morons decide to add, is cultural marxist. #GamerGate literally CANNOT WIN

Ernst Röhm and Milo are cultural marxists?

>>255830

Except I've only ever posted there a handful of times. And that was months after I first came here.

>>255842

Well we've seen you before. You come and go but cultural marxism and conspiricies are your calling cards.

>>255842

And when I say here I mean /gghq/ or whatever the first board was, since I've been here and since around October I think, making a few major finds, and involved on Twitter since day one of #GamerGate. But you keep believing that anyone who isn't a total leftard is "from /pol/" and see where that gets you when more and more people reject bullshit political ideology.

>>255846

>conspiricies

You mean like GameJournoPros?

>>255852

No he means Ernst Röhm plotting to gayfuck Hitler.

And TB destroying society with transexual guests.

>>255862

>And TB destroying society with transexual guests.

Ebola seems to be fairly well contained despite a few scares. But if every town/city in the world had a few cases, especially if people were being prevented from treating it, then humanity would most likely be totally fucked pretty fast.

>>255876

Except they don't reproduce like a virus.

I don't get it. Is he having another meltdown about chat replies like a couple of years ago ?

>>255887

It's the cultural marxism that's virus-like (thanks to government & MSM catalyst) not the individual trannies. If Total Biscuit had a tranny on his show and they mentioned they had transsexualism and were getting the proper treatment for it (NOT opposite sex hormones and body mutilation) then there would be no problem, just like Total Biscuit telling his viewers that he had cancer and was getting treated for it.

>>255894

I mean transsexuality not transsexualism. I think. I'm a bit tired and got confused with terms.

>>255891

nah he went a bit smug extreme

"Im superior specimen of tolerant progressive man"

It seems to be me he tries to play on both sides so he can cash on both camps

>>255876

Like sitting on your ass and playing video games stop you from doing all sorts of virtuos things

>>255893

I don't get on what he agrees on, he supports female-only tournaments or what?

>>255916

nah he agrees with article about how that HS tournament was badly done,

it was in china looking all fancy, white dresses, white computers.

after this they went on hour long rant about how hard girls have it in esports and that with enough PUSH as mentioned before by anon: "smacking them in the face until they get it"

girls will be good as boys

>>255894

So now I have to actively mention "this person is getting treatment" every time I interact with trans person on similar level? That's really fucking retarded and it still would be even if it was generally agreed upon that it is a curable disorder.

>>255828

Trannies are the tip of the spear in leftist revisionism, thought control, speech policing, and covert feminization of men.

The SJW mascot is man in a dress demanding you treat him as if he's Mila Jovavich.

There is no greater proof that we live in a gynocentric society than the growing number of weak men who think they can become a woman and have a better life.

Watch this fucking movie and comprehend the tranny mindset.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0MxXqF-fgJY

He doesn't have a con-di-shun. He's a failure of a man obsessed with sibling rivalry and a narcissistic need for constant attention and validation.

>>255645

>gender isn't real

Reminder that gender as a seperate, mental thing was the creation of Dr. John Money, a man that defended pedophilia and had David Reimer and his brother simulate sex acts and strip nude in front of him.

>>255938

There are a couple reasons why there are trannies in NYS.

One, they have fewer other trannies to compete with for attention and position.

Two, they have fewer thought and speech laws to abide by and can express themselves outside of the hugbox narrative.

Three, it isn't like being a tranny makes you a terrible person. Some are just fine. Just like schizos and other mentally ill people. I personally think Airport is hillarious. I also think she's got some fucked up oligarchic delusions about where she thinks the world should go that conveniently make sure that she is an elite and not one of the hoi pallois.

Oh, and talking about comments like these: >>255930

DAILY REMINDER THAT MRAS WHO BELIEVE IN GYNOCENTRISM ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM FEMINISTS WHO BELIEVE IN PATRIARCHY. WHY GATEKEEPING WHO GETS TO JOIN AND GETS TO STAY IS AN IMPOSSIBLE AND AGAINST WHAT GAMERGATE STANDS FOR, GIVING OUR INITIATIVE OR FOLLOWING GUIDANCE FROM IDENTITY POLITICS FOLLOWES WILL TRANSFORM GAMERGATE INTO ANOTHER IDENTITY POLITICS MOVEMENT, COMPLAINING ABOUT MINOR DETAILS AND ABSOLUTELY IMPOTENT TO INTRODUCE ANY GREATER CHANGE.

>>255921

No, I said they could mention it. You would have to accept that it's a mental illness though and not accuse them of "internalised transphobia". If they're not getting the proper treatment it would be the ethical thing to advise them to do so though.

>>255967

Remember when cancer stayed in their containment board and didn't claim authority on entirety of 8chan?

>>255594

Well, we have to be smeared as a hate group some way after SPJ.

>>255971

get as angry as you want girly man

we all know in real life you'd wind up with my balls lodged in your anus

>>255949

> Trans topic has nothing to do with GamerGate,

GG is the Normandy of a culture war between empiricists and sophists.

Trannies have EVERYTHING to do with that. These are people who want to FORCE you to adhere to their feels.

These are naked emperors looking for every social lever to get everyone else to tell them they are clothed.

These are men who want to live with female privilege and demand that men do all the shit work while they collect patreon bux and victim bux to spend on vanity surgeries and narcissism for doing nothing but existing.

All trannies ARE fucking crazy. They are men who think they are women. That is definitively delusional.

>>255953

Yes, because there are so many women working off the backs of garbage trucks and doing roofing in August.

Women control 80% of household spending and our media panders to them more than men to part them from that money. They compete for the cushy jobs but have zero interest in the hard work. Men fall all over themselves to gain their approval and shoulder the entire burden of relationship initiation and maintanence in the hopes of gaining reproductive access.

That is gynocentrism.

>>255971

> containment board

> not a raging faggot SJW

Why the fuck do you care what TB thinks?!

No fucking Leaders

>>255938

I reject political ideology, although I'm intelligent enough to acknowledge that there seem to be more thing that are considered right-wing to be correct than there are left-wing. There are probably things that neither the right nor the left support that are correct too. I evaluate things individually based on science facts and logic, not based on political ideology.

>>255594

Yes, opportunist shills are using the fact TB has defended a trans person to, first of all, trigger the /pol/acks into assisting with their divide and conquer and, second, shit up the board further.

>>255978

Jesus Christ man, I'm not even gay, why would I want your balls?!

>>255979

>GG is a cullture war

Fuck off, people like you want to hijack the movement to assist with your delusions, we are already spreading thin with tackling everything, we'll become as impotent and powerless as /pol/ if we transform this into a culture war.

>>255973

>>255791

TB's views didn't change a notch. He always said he wants to avoid labels, since begging of GamerGate. He didn't change a bit with his position. The fact you consider him "going SJW" just proves you people are losing it to desire to be contrarian against SJWs and going more extremist.

>>255979

Sure, go ahead, hat every single single transsexual because you think you are crazy and complain about gynocentrism, I had it enough arguing with retards like you on /pol/, you are same sort of identity politics cancer as modern western feminists, even if you're on the other end.

Damn, too many closet trannies in here…

>>255991

>why would I want your balls?!

half the fun of goofballs is that they are never wanted

>>255991

>TB's views didn't change a notch. He always said he wants to avoid labels, since begging of GamerGate. He didn't change a bit with his position. The fact you consider him "going SJW" just proves you people are losing it to desire to be contrarian against SJWs and going more extremist

What does that have anything to do with what I said…

>Fuck off, people like you want to hijack the movement to assist with your delusions, we are already spreading thin with tackling everything, we'll become as impotent and powerless as /pol/ if we transform this into a culture war.

How long have you been in GamerGate? Anita declared this a culture war, after which almost every GG supporter was attempted to be doxxed, insulted, dehumanized, and called a subhuman in almost every left wing media outlet. Newfaggots weren't here during the hardest day now they talk shit

>>256003

I've been here since Zoepost hit /v/.

>Anita declared this a culture war

Oh, is Anita my authority now? Should I listen what Anita tells me to do? Is she an expert on things or something?

>almost every GG supporter was attempted to be doxxed, insulted, dehumanized, and called a subhuman in almost every left wing media outlet

I don't remember any of that happening to me, except for maybe getting called asubhuman. But you know what, I remember plenty of progressive sites like Spiked supporting GG. Claiming this is a left-right issue is stupid when many GG supporters are leftists, or simply not Americans, like me, and picking "political side" after a single issue is hopeless when conservative media has previously done as much stupid shit.

>Newfaggots weren't here during the hardest day now they talk shit

You mean those newfaggots that came to 8chan only after moot cucked 4/pol/ and ruined the post quality of every board from /pol/ to /v/? Oh yes, those were dark times, esspecially when those faggots came here and started believing they have an authority here.

Finally,

>What does that have anything to do with what I said…

It has to do everything with the fact TB remained consistent and maintained the same position and greatly contributed to the dialogue, interviewing both gamedevs and journos, tanking damage from SJWs wanting to kill his career even when being treated for cancer, and overall being one of biggest ecelebs in games industry to introduce the issue to large public. Meanwhile, some political extremists wants GG to denounce him because he's too moderate for their views, and deliberately or not spawning another divide and conquer drama.

>>256022

> don't remember any of that happening to me, except for maybe getting called asubhuman. But you know what, I remember plenty of progressive sites like Spiked supporting GG.

Then you don't remember shit. Plenty of people were attempted to be hacked, lost their jobs, their families were contacted, all while every single leftist rag were dehumanizing us more and more refusing dialogue

>It has to do everything with the fact TB remained consistent

>I WANT POLITICS OUT OF GAMING AND MY CHANNEL

>IF YOU ARE CONSERVATIVE RELIGIOUS OR DONT BELIEVE IN IDENTITY POLITICS YOU ARE NOT A DECENT HUMAN BEING AND GTFO I DONT WANT YOU

>>255471

>they look at it as the same thing as gay rights

One of the biggest social cons of the past few decades. The "T" has no business as the end of LGB. One group is fighting for the right to be what they are (attracted to the same sex), while the other wants to be accepted as what they are not (the opposite sex).

I completely sympathise with gay people who have no time for trannies shitting up their movements.

>>255991

> not a culture war

What do you call it when a bunch of social conservatives push an agenda to control the thoughts, speech, expression, and behavior of others and then those others push back against that?

SJWs are a cult attempting to remake pop culture in their own subjective delusion.

And thinking that trannies are delusional, and pointing out that the are trying their damndest to force everyone to play along doesn't equate hate, you manipulative fucking faggot.

> criticism = hate

> totally not a ghazelle

>>256022

>Meanwhile, some political extremists wants GG to denounce him because he's too moderate for their views

What he said was flat-out cultural marxist. Cultural marxists are extremists. Just because they're in power doesn't make them right. Total Biscuit is as much a moderate as a full on Hitler supporter in Nazi Germany or Stalin supporter in Soviet Russia. He fully supports the establishment on "social justice" issues. The same establishment that backs the "#GamerGate is a terrorist group all about hating females and running all of them out of every part of the videogame industry!" lie.

>>255531

>put to death for saying the earth was a sphere and circling the sun

…no they weren't. A monk came up with heliocentricism you fucking clod. :/

>>255468

Hell, both this thread and that one are horrible. Why can't people just be adults about these topics?

>>256047

Supporting transexuals =/= cultural marxism

>>256057

you didn't even listen to the "butthurt rant" did you? He talks about that in it!

>>256033

>Then you don't remember shit. Plenty of people were attempted to be hacked, lost their jobs, their families were contacted, all while every single leftist rag were dehumanizing us more and more refusing dialogue

You originally said:

>almost every GG supporter was attempted to be doxxed, insulted, dehumanized, and called a subhuman in almost every left wing media outlet

Which is bullshit, and I have no problem calling out bullshit.

Also, note that I don't say conservatives should "stay out of gaming", you are willingly misrepresenting me to fuel your delusions.

Also, you are engaging in identity politics more by arguing about trannies being wrong and crazy than by merely ignoring them and any attempts to construct the medical and integration issue as a social one.

>>256034

>Quote mining a tweet from 2013

AND YOU PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE SHILLS ARE ATTEMPTING A DIVIDE AND CONQUER WITH TB

THIS IS SAME AS WHEN THEY ATTEMPTED TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER US WITH SARGON AND MILO, IGNORE THIS SHIT AND DON'T LET THIS BULLSHIT INFLUENCE YOU

>>256057

What do you mean? He's talking about individuals here, communities like 8chan is a different topic altogether. He has no reason to pander to 8chan just like he has no reason to pander to Reddit or Tumblr or the twitterfags.

>>256056

Only if by supporting you mean helping them get the proper treatment, which doesn't involve enabling their delusion, being given hormones of the opposite sex or mutilating their body.

>>255542

This is true.

I mean, no one's obligated to be respectful and nice to others.

The day we must be nice to others is the day wrongthink as come, as much as the day we must be horrible to others. People are free to think or act like they want, as long as they don't really harm others.

But this doesn't mean that being respectful is useless or shouldn't be incentivized, pushed for. Doesn't cost us anything actually, and does everyone good.

>>256071

That's a fucking good post anon

>>256071

Nice post.

>>256069

This is pretty much the thing. Nobody tells a schizophrenic that the voices in his/hers head is real, nobody tells them to do what the voices do. They get treatment, unless they're hobos.

When the doctors at Johns Hopkins Hospital who pioneered sexual reassignment surgery says it was a mistake and they should be treated for mental illness instead, alarm bells should be ringing.

>>256071

I think that between all of this, there's not enough warnings involved with telling people their options when they struggle with these things. It seems like all you hear about is how it's great to do and there's no regrets or anything. Socjus seems to want to paint it as this thing that's only great and has no negative side effects.

It does. Lots of things do. Tattoos, piercings, hair coloring, etc. Lots of things changing your appearance even can end up in regret. But switching your gender is a huge one that can't be fixed. But it seems like transgendered people don't ever hear about the fact that things can go wrong and they can end up unhappy. They need to be better educated about their choices and not so coerced into HRT and SRS.

There are a lot of people unhappy with their bodies. I wish I were taller. Some people with they were thinner. Some people wish they were hot. The best thing you can do is take what you were born with and do what will make you happy without doing completely irreversible things that you might regret or that might have horrible side effects.

I do know some people who have dabble with the idea they were born in the wrong body. They usually want to be this attractive girl or boy. And the sad thing is that surgery and stuff just doesn't do that. I think a lot of the suicide results from people not ending up how they expected and being stuck in a body that's even worse than the one they had before. Obviously I'm going to be called all sorts of names by social justice warriors by saying this, but I do agree with you. There's too much focus on making the change and not enough about the regret or disappointment.

You can't forget too, you basically can't come out and say that you thought a transition was a mistake. The SJW will torture you and want your head on a stake. These people who regret making the switch are probably depressed, horribly unhappy with the end result, are completely left alone, because the people who told them it was alight to transition will end up hating and attacking them for saying the truth. I couldn't imagine making a change I regret to my body, wanting to tell everyone it's a huge mistake, while I'm surrounded by people telling me it's the greatest thing I ever did and that if I disagree I have internalized transphobia and am an awful person. I'd even wager the hell SJW put transgendered people who regret the transition go through causes more suicide than the transition itself.

I just think of what would happen if someone made a support group for people who regretted transitioning and I imagine tons of SJWs telling people who aren't happy with their transition that they're terrible people for being unhappy with their transition.

>>255991

>Fuck off, people like you want to hijack the movement to assist with your delusions

Fuck off tranny, if anyone has delusions it's you.

>>256056

demanding that everyone play along with tranny delusion does equal cultural marxism, though.

Having your self image reinforced and reflected back to you is neither a civil nor human right.

>>256089

Money gets proven a pedo and a con. JH changes their tune.

SJWs keep shouting "muh science!!! My wrong brain in wrong body!!!"

I can't wait for all those "men with female brains" studies to be proven to have been riddled with conflict of interest, breeches in methodology, and confirmation bias.

>>256091

> The problem is few people actually discuss these things because it takes a bit of balls

The problem is, when a man starts talking about female privilege and all the free shit that women get, women essentially respond with

"Fuck you!!! No pussy for you!!!"

Why? Because they don't want to give up that free shit.

They want to keep leveraging for more and more and more. And there are plenty of dudes thirsty enough to go along with them.

I disagree with you, though. SJWs are a cult. They behave just like scientologists on a smaller budget and with less writing skill.

>>256071

>>256090

These are GREAT posts!

>>256089

Good example, I wish I had thought of the "voices in their head" thing myself. There is of course also dissociative identity disorder (AKA multiple personality disorder) which usually takes years of treatment to cure.

https://archive.is/HbNZy

>>255758

He has always been a giant cunt.

>>256113

Thanks m80. This discussion too is making me feel a lot like social justice's solutions to problems don't even have any evidence that they work. Like, it's a bunch of soft-science posers just doing what they think is right without even testing if they are getting the results they think they should be.

Sure wasn't difficult to find evidence of what I'm saying either.

>The first step in helping trauma survivors[vague] begin the healing process involves establishing a safe environment[citation needed]

https://archive.is/TscrR

So, there's no sources that say "establishing a safe environment" is the proper solution to PTSD.

Lets see what Mayo Clinic says you should do to heal your PTSD: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/post-traumatic-stress-disorder/basics/treatment/con-20022540

Oh look, nothing about completely avoiding it. In fact, one of the treatments is to expose yourself to the trauma

>Exposure therapy. This behavioral therapy helps you safely face what you find frightening so that you can learn to cope with it effectively. One approach to exposure therapy uses "virtual reality" programs that allow you to re-enter the setting in which you experienced trauma.

Safe spaces and trigger warnings are the exact opposite of what experts at Mayo Clinic suggest for treatment. And wikipedia ignores Mayo Clinic and instead offers the social justice solution with no sources cited, probably because all the sources in the world say safe spaces are the exact wrong thing to be doing.

>>255542

Thank god for Ziggler.

>>256124

If we as human species needed safe spaces to get over shit we wouldn't have survived this long.

>>256124

The issue is, SocJus controls academia and has for a couple generations. So they quite literally can MAKE science in the West say whatever they want it to say. With that kind of power, they are free to declare "Hey, you know that gender thing we made up in the 60's? Let's just declare that it's actually real, located in the brain, and trannies have the wrong one". AFTER they decide what the new orthodoxy is, THEN they start funding studies to make it sound like they're right.

>>256124

Let me explain the goals of SJWs;

They are elois. They want the entire world around them to bend to their fee fees. It's all they want and they will do everything they can to get it.

They all want to be told they are genius prom queens.

And they want everything for nothing.

Everything else is a method to achieve that and the ends justify the means to them.

They lie constantly.

>>256146

Speak for yourself, ww3 is the perfect opportunity to kill all transfags. I know what I will be doing anyway.

>>256148

Got your screencap yet?

Now please go.

>>256149

What did mr he sir man say, boy?

>>256151

Take your day of the rope shit back to /pol/, or go post it on your twitter to prove how horrible we are. Run along now.

>>256157

I'm not a retarded pol and I couldn't care less to take a screen. I am GG n out of here, you know, if we didn't spend all our fucking time fighting SJW accusations about us we would get A LOT MORE SHIT DONE, perhaps take a page from Trump, do and say what we want and take the fight to them instead of playing the retarded game of theirs, oh and transfags are NOT FUCKING WOMEN, they are mentally ill cancer males that needs treatment and be locked up until cured!

>>256167

Yeah, then KIA reddit shit started… Reading KIA and half the threads of theirs are "look we proved we are not misogynists!! Celebrate" makes me puke these days. You would also think after nothing changes and same accusation appears everyday and Wikipedia says it, one would just say fuck it and instead focus on the war.

I once suggested we should instead make a real effort politically to push to reinforce the first amendment and make freedom of speech so strong that no matter what they do, they would be unable to accomplish shit, but that was politics so fuck that…

Goddamn trannies really are the ultimate weapons of SJWs.

It's like catapulting diseased bodies into a city you're besieging and then watch it rot.

>>256162

>Let's do some actual shit

>Oh and here is an argument for discussing unneccessary shit

>>256187

>says fighting to strengthen first amendment is unnecessary shit

Perfect example of how retarded GG has become. It is as if you can't put 2 and 2 together… Ok, don't and let's ignore anti GG that is currently fighting to weaken it with support of Hillary, sanders and 48 U.S. Senators, whatever. Transfag.

Also:

You may personally welcome TB, you may personally unwelcome him. Doesn't matter.

You may respect pronouns, you may not. As long as you're not actually harassing anyone, we also have no reason to care.

Fucking cut the drama before it infests.

>>256192

>Implies I'm an americunt and your stupid amendments have anything to do with me

>>256204

>I'm not America. This doesn't affect me!

Well it does because most media is owned and beholden to American law, most developers in the world work in America, most publishers are American, all companies, websites from FB to Twitter and more is hosted in America and also under American jurisdiction and even if you post something that would be illegal in EU or China etc if hosted in America it is protected under the first amendment. Not to forget pretty much all anti GG and GG critiques are American under U.S. Jurisdiction.

So yes. If you are in GG, IT VERY MUCH AFFECTS YOU RETARDED FAG! (I think I am done, seeing others giving up, better if I spend my time supporting Trump, bye.)

I haven't seen the comment he's referring to throughout this entire thread. Please don't tell me all of you are posting without knowing the complete subject matter.

Does anyone have the comments in question?

>>255468

>You guys were right they are no better than the SJW crowd…

Go home /ggrevolt/

>>256235

>(1)

By the way, this is an introspection shill, advocating for DnC. Pointing out the obvious to the newfags. Even if you loathe the motherfuckers, forcing further divides is cancerous bullshit.

>>256243

>(1)

You sure you want to be pointing fingers?

>>256243

Agreed, this whole thread is one massive DnC. Pointe dit out already, but want to repeat it enough times for everyone to get it.

Also I recommend saging in it, just to be sure this shit doesn't get bumped up

>>256230

he did soundcloud on this, also a lot of deleting and banning going on /r/cynicalbrit

>>256252

And over at KIA they are now implementing ban rule that if you missgender=banned

KIA is so fucking SJW now.

>>256253

Proof?

>>256255

KIA first page big thread on this. Mods in there discussing ban. Also majority of posters are pro trans now…

>>256259

Again - proof?

>Trannies hurt themselfs

So what, if you smoke you hurt yourself, if you drink you hurt yourself, if you eat fatty foots yourself. Why do you care you divisiv faggot? IT HAS NOTHING TODO WITH VIDEO GAMES

>Trannies in NYT get upset when I don't call them by their prefered pronouns

Many Allies get upset when you use all kinds of language against them. That makes you the bad Diplomat. If you cannot keep alliences then fuck off, because you have a bigger problem with transexuals than the cause of GamerGate.

>>256260

Again, why not kill yourself hat.

>>256261

>trannies, allies, keeping SJWs awake at night since 2014!

Well, that changes the meaning of this place too I guess, time to ggrevolt I think /cya

>>256266

>people being banned for holding the wrong opinion isn't related to a movement against people being banned for holding the wrong opinion

>>256268

>thinking I'm Hat

Dat paranoia

>>256266

>TB's podcast/youtube videos are NOT journalism!!!

Learn what journalism is newfag. It is.

>>256269

>People derailing a video about videogames and make it all about the faults of the presenters get mad when they get banned.

>>256266

You kinda have a point, why do you need to lose any credibility by sperging out like that?

Look at the spaghetti, it's everywhere, even on your back, how did you manage?

>>256269

I hope you are intentionally being facetious.

People being banned from an independent, private, non-authoritative publication is ABSOLUTELY none of our fucking business.

People being banned and slandered without defence from mainstream, nation-wide, authoritative sources is our business.

>>256271

I get that you're "just pretending" to be this stupid, but I'll spell it out for you anyway:

Journalism is supposed to be as free from opinion as possible. It's the news. It says "Here is the unbiased information, make of it what you will, I'm just telling you about it."

TB is absolutely opinionated, he would never call himself a "journalist," what draws people to him in the first place is his individual perspective on events and games. They do not go to him to hear unbiased information.

>>256272

Presenter is an SJW tranny that not long ago accused someone at Microsoft at Xbox for referring to him and the thing and "him" speeded out on Twitter getting dude fired, later admitted in Twitter he made it all up and the Xbox guy never did say that stuff about him. Gets invited by by TB that pisses on GG all the time yet his word is law and now transfags are accepted even if all the worst anti GG are transfags and transfags are all SJW's who attack media and are PC cancer.

Instead of a thank you card to TB I suggest sending him a dildo, he can do whatever he wants with it.

>>256279

>TB is absolutely opinionated, he would never call himself a "journalist,"

Doesn't matter what he calls himself. Much like it doesn't matter that Kotaku thinks itself a blog.

It's media that's subject to the same COI possibilities of journalism, and has the same function of journalism of passing the word around. Nomenclature as a formalist denominator means nothing, what matters is how much it affects vidya in the real world in an ethical or unethical way, with or without merit.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/FTC-Updating-Consumer-Info-Regarding-Media-Endorsements-YouTubers-2015-68602.html

http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2015/06/ftc-endorsement-guide-now-includes-game-reviews-youtubers-affiliate-links/

>>256279

TB does call himself a journalist, you know, when it suits him that is.

>>256279

He calls himself a journo dipshit, and he presents news. Like it or not, fuckwit is a journalist. He also presents idiotic opinion pieces like now.

>>256279

>It's not the government, so censorship is okay

Yeah, the censorship of 4chan and reddit is okay in your book too eh? Because guess what? They're both private, non-authoritative media outlets as well. They have every legal right to do what they want. They just said they wouldn't.

He calls himself a journo dipshit, and he presents news. Like it or not, fuckwit is a journalist. He also presents idiotic opinion pieces like now.

>>256290

>He calls himself a journo dipshit

Outright lie, fuck off.

>>256295

Not a lie. He's done so along with critic, youtuber, and so on. He switches labels to whatever gives him the most advantage.

>>256284

To bad the only post mentioning this is >>255800 the rest of the thread has zero merit,

here could be a start:

>Presenter is an SJW tranny that not long ago accused someone at Microsoft at Xbox for referring to him and the thing and "him" speeded out on Twitter getting dude fired, later admitted in Twitter he made it all up and the Xbox guy never did say that stuff about him.

Proof?

>>256071

ARCHIVE THIS!

>>256275

>why do you need to lose any credibility by sperging out like that?

What's funny is that I actually lose 0 credibility, because I'm objectively fucking correct. You must be maladjusted to imageboards if you think that "image" and "style" have any place here. If I were a redditor who wanted extra karma, maybe I would try harder to be diplomatic, but I'm not on that website for a reason.

>>256285

>being so embarrasingly wrong that you try to argue the equivocacy of blogging and investigative journalism

Your cognitive dissonance is almost unbelievably huge.

>nomenclature as a formalist denominator means nothing

I am so impressed by your big words. In reality, journalism is a profession that people study for. There are journalism degrees and practices that qualify people as "experts."

>>256290

>Like it or not, fuckwit is a journalist. He also presents idiotic opinion pieces like now.

I disagree that he is a journalist, but even if he was, answer me this: Was he presenting a News story entitled "Trannys are #1, science shows" or was it an opinion piece? It's like you people can't comprehend that there is a time and place for everything.

>>256293

>It's not the government, so censorship is okay

Please, please screencap the above quote in my comment and show it to me.

YOU are the fuckers who want to censor (potentially) "mentally ill" people from sharing their opinions on opinionated, private publications.

YOU are the fuckers who are crying for censorship of the "mentally ill" people who call themselves transvestites.

As an advocate of Free speech I think transvestites should be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want, so long as it is presented as opinion, and not fact. You, on the other hand, do not support their Freedom of speech, which makes you an enemy of both myself and TB, not as GG members, but as people who love Freedom.

>>256300

Present a source yourself if you want to break the stalemate. You made the initial claim that he calls himself a journalist, so the proof is on you. If you find some shit on his channel from 5 years ago, keep in mind more recent quotes will be found to counter that statement.

>>256299

Google his fucking name, check his Twitter ffs I am not your damn secretary and yes TB is a journo and called himself that many times in his videos but I ain't fucking gathering clips for you now because you wanna be a pain in the ass, oh yeah, pain, ass, fag, so fuck off

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>>256305

>Google his fucking name, check his Twitter ffs I am not your damn secretary

You are making the claims and want GG to care, make your work or fuck off.

>>256304

with that, I'm out. I've got to be up in a few hours. I rest my case.

>>256304

>Thinking I want to censor

>Wasting time putting me into a generic strawman to attack

You are a dense motherfucker. I am a free speech advocate, and they are welcome to say whatever retarded bullshit they want, just like I can call them fucking morons for spewing bullshit. What you fail to realize is that it cuts both ways, and if they're attempting to speak for me or silence me, then I will have words for them, that includes the meathead TotalBiscuit who is speaking about social justice issues he has ZERO fucking clue about. Apparently, you're struggling as well considering your guilt by association nonsense, and uneccessary coddling.

>people are not allowed to have different opinions on a controversial topic

>we need to purge the shitlords shills

Then show us a video or post he's made calling himself a journo. I'm going to await your failure to do so and following excuse as to why you can't provide evidence.

Oh look it already happened before I could finish this post

>>256305

Fuck off you little cunt it's feelz over realz here what are you some king of SJW? You either saddle up or fuck off you know nothing bitch.

>>256309

See http://tweetsave.com/totalbiscuit/status/591669435049578496 for the most recent example. Next question.

You can tell this is a shill thread because it's a bunch of generic D&C bullshit and copypasta about transgender people without people even pointing out Laura's history of lying. Anyone who replied without saging should be ashamed of yourself.

>>256299

Copypasting:

Laura made up a bunch of bullshit about how a Microsoft presenter/comedian guy humiliated her onstage with transphobic remarks, causing a bunch of news coverage and potentially fucking with his career. Then ended up releasing a statement alongside him admitting it didn't happen. The statement calls it a "misunderstanding" but it's clear the original claim was full of outright lies about things he never said. I think maybe it started with Laura trying to get sympathy/attention from twitter followers and didn't realize the lie would blow up. Or maybe she was angry because someone in the audience laughed at him saying "this person" and wanted to slander him, without realizing her lies would be called out. To this day if you google his name the front page of google has three articles smearing him as a transphobe, two uncorrected ones and the original Kotaku one (which is corrected but it's not apparent looking at the search results).

>Xbox One Presenter Humiliated Me on Stage, Says Transgender Journalist [UPDATE: Some allegations recanted.]

https://archive.is/PaenI

Article with original denial:

http://www.purexbox.com/news/2013/09/exclusive_xbox_one_stage_show_twitter_storm_kicks_off

Tweets:

>Most embarrassing moment of Eurogamer. Pulled up on stage for XB1 thing and called male twice and "it" twice.

>That has really ruined my weekend.

>Hope someone from Microsoft sees this. Your presenter made completely dehumanised me in front of an audience. Ruined my Eurogamer.

Denial:

>Laura Kate Dale: "I was 'he', 'it'. 'Thing' and 'this one'. I was on stage and they still insist 'we need a woman on stage, any women here.'"

>"Staff apologised to her, but every single part of the first sentence of that tweet is made up. We called for more women so as to balance things up as there were mostly male gamers on stage, yes. There are ways of complaining in a mature way, but this is inflammatory and slanderous. 350 witnesses saw that this did not happen and that I didn't say those things. I would like to speak to her face to face to sort this out, but she's taken to Twitter and now I'm getting hundreds of tweets per minute." We asked what could have sparked these claims if this indeed did not happen, and Mr. Millward said that "I referred to her as 'this person', at which point some of the crowd laughed. I should have diffused that situation, but I think that is what's caused this to happen. I did not refer to the woman as 'thing' or 'it' at any point."

Joint statement:

https://web.archive.org/web/20131007075328/http://www.frasermillward.com/apps/blog/eurogamer-expo-2013-joint-statement-from-laura

>Laura Kate Dale and Fraser Millward have come to agree that the situation which took place at the Xbox stand at Eurogamer on Sunday 29th September was an unfortunate misunderstanding on both sides. It has now been made clear that Fraser did not refer to Laura as an 'it' or a 'thing' or a 'he', and these claims have now been fully retracted by Laura and she is sorry for the hurt this caused. Fraser caused offence to Laura on stage when he publicly misgendered her by addressing her as 'this person'. Laura was also upset by statements which she saw as suggesting that she was not female. Fraser is sorry he said this, and for the pain he inadvertently caused Laura. Both parties wish to put the situation behind them and consider this matter now resolved.

>>256316

Read that article it links to dumb ship.

>>256257

There are so many AGG trannies because it is a den of thieves. Trannies are mentally ill con artists. So are SJWs. Birds of a feather flock together.

>>256325

It's the same guy that said he almost killed himself because of YouTube comments, then later over Twitter, then when he was admin if his own reddit page… He is unstable as fuck, probably as a result for having 200+ IQ

>>256328

Okay, that's nice, but is there a link to what exactly he's talking about?

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>>256329

Why are you replying, especially without saging? Shills or retards?

>>256319

Laura Kate Dale is bitch who lies, too bad that Total Biscuit associates with her. Case closed.

>>256321

Now you're walking it back. You asked for an example. One was provided.

>>256332

Okay, I admit it, I was being retarded. Thought I had sage on.

>>256339

So autistic. Who linked this to you and in which private circle jerk was it in which you took it at face value instead of reading the article it linked to.

The BBC called him a game journalists and he was being facetious. You mentally challenged retard.

>One was provided

I asked for evidence not "one example" so far your evidence is your autistic understanding of a tweet that linked to an article by the BBC you didn't read.

>>256334

>>256341

Thanks. I thought he was talking about youtube comments.

I never got the point of deleting disagreeable comments on Reddit. Isn't the whole point of the site to shame them with downvotes? Than again, I don't really understand the appeal to Reddit at all.

>>256316

>>256339

That is not him saying he is a journalist, that's him quoting an article saying he is one.

>>256344

>There wasn't one post where he said it

>I-it was facetious!

Once again, you asked. It was provided. Don't like him being an idiot? Take it up with him. By the way, he has little understanding of fair use at the rate things are going, considering he was bitching about censorship on the video that got taken down awhile back. See clause four for why.

>>256349

I asked for evidence. Not your bias. BBC calls him a journalist in the article.

>I-it was facetious!

It was I can't help if you're too stupid to understand a joke.

>Don't like him being an idiot?

Being facetious isn't being an idiot being an idiot is not reading an article being linked to and quote mining to try and discredit. Are you Zoe Quinn? Stalking IRC rooms and cherry picking shit out of context to spin a narrative :^)

>>256355

Checked!

Does Voat!KIA have the stupid misgendering obsession reshit does?

>>256355

For the record he specifically says he doesn't consider himself a journalist, it was many months ago and I don't have the link though. Of course just because you're not a journalist doesn't mean you aren't held to ethical standards, something he understands.

>>256373

>you're not a journalist doesn't mean you aren't held to ethical standards

>something he understands.

Then what are complaining about?

>>256377

I'm not complaining about anything besides idiots seriously responding to this blatant bait thread. I'm just saying how he classifies himself. For a long time it was a Ghazi talking point that because he doesn't call himself a journalist he's trying to be exempt from ethical concerns or something, but of course in reality he pretty much led the way on issues like disclosure for youtubers.

>>255542

This.

Always throwing a fucking temper tantrum if somebody doesnt hate trannies is getting fucking annoying.

>OMG TOTAL BISCUIT IS BANNING PEOPLE WHO CALLS HIS GUEST A DISGUSTING FREAK OF NATURE. CENCORSHIP. MUUUUH

Chill the fuck out. Keep your powerlevels to yourself. Not everyone is going to agree with everything, call them a faggot and get the fuck over it.

Fuck TB. Fuck the barn he was born in. Fuck his dumb cunt wife. He has no right to tell me what I can and cannot say and fuck anyone that says otherwise.

>>256414

You forgot your sage.

>>256415

>All this edge

You can say all the shit you want, fag. Just not at an avenue he controlls.

You're acting like a fucking child. Probably underagefag.

>>256416

see >>256415

>>256417

>Sage is le downvote

Fuck off nigger.

>>256419

see >>256415

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Still on the frontpage you fucking newfag cancer.

>>256345

The point of deleting disagreeable comments on reddit is to make it look like they're right.

It's all about narrative control ad propoganda. If you make an argument that proves trannies are wrong or crazy, it behooves them get rid of it.

The term is erasure. And they know very well what that means.

>gamergaters getting to desperate that they are siding with the mentally sick

>>256304

Trannies are allowed to say whatever they want. They can call themselves "she" if they like.

The rest of us are free to not play along.

The demand that we be forced and cajoled into doing so is where the censorship lies.

I honestly wonder if you are intentionally sliding or if youtruly lack the cognitive ability to comprehend that.

>>256451

>The demand that we be forced and cajoled into doing so

So who the fuck is forcing you to sign up to reddit?

Who is forcing you to stay?

You have free reign of saying whatever edgy, brooding, wicked smart, things you got on your fag brain about trannies here.

So your only real issue is that Reddit isnt 8chan.

>ITS DIFFERENT BAAAWWW

Fucking crybaby.

TB titles his soundcloud thing "We need to have words" but disables comments and ignores any attempt to have discourse on the subject.

TotalBiscuit's always been a stupid fucking loser and in some ways he's worse than the LWs. I am free to have anti-trans views all I want, I am not going to stop just because it offends his delicate snowflake sensibilities. If gender is "a social construct" then other people are free to define which gender they see other people as.

>>255529

>Agree or not about trans people but they're still fucking people for Christ's sweet sake.

Nobody violated any of "her" human rights sugartits.

Here's the thing. I'll call trans their stupid fucking pronouns if they show themselves to deserve that level of respect by being decent folks. I got no problem then.

But the guest in question is a fucking SJW scum that rights for the news media that GG is trying to bring down. Why the fuck would I extend "her" any fucking courtesy

"She" gets quotation marked female pronouns and that's already too nice as is.

Can someone explain the difference between sage bombing a thread you don't like and blocking people you disagree with on twitter?

>>256461

Because tranny speech and thought control is limited to reddit and they aren't having real life demonstrations and Zoey Tur didn't treaten a reporter on a news show.

Totally. This is all a reddit thing. Totally.

>kia constantly trying to insert progressive bullshit into gg

>idiot tripfag spamming this board with cat pics

Is there one gg board that is cancer?

Guys I'm pretty heavily against moderation unless very necessary but I don't think spamming fucking cat pics on a discussion thread should be allowed.

>>255733

I was wondering about this, hes either an autist or an edgelord that fights for the "truth!" Even people with introversion and social anxiety understand the concept of cordiality , you don't go around telling people they are fat or delusional unless that is the actual topic of the discussion and they are denying objective facts. I guess this guy tells his mom she's a saggy 50 years old ball of fat when she asks: "who do i look?"

Cause you gotta tell the truth!!! herpa derp

>>256529

It's called evading DnC and useless infighting on things that barely matter to GG at all.

Let TB be a sperg, let people call him out if they want, let people use the pronouns they want to.

Being nice and respectful isn't something you force others to be, it's something you incentivize civily.

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You okay there buddy? You might want to see a doctor.

>>256572

>guys

its just 23c5e2 (97), he just went full autismo here

>>256585

So a spammer gets to decide what is to be discussed? And if we are going to be divided and conquered because we disagree on certain issues, we don't deserve to be anything in the first place. This "let's not discuss things that might divide us" idea is dangerously close to safe space bullshit. We should be able to tolerate other opinions and still work together on issues we all agree on. If we can't do that, GG is meaningless anyway.

>>256602

this is a good point, however the thing about DnC shills is that they are not trying to have productive discussion they are just shit stirring. There was some good discussion here , but there is also shilling/trolling or poe law levels of stupidity that we probably should just let go…

>>256602

No. Right in the rules:

"Note that the definition of shilling does NOT include reasonable debate, arguing, criticism, dissent, or complaint. In #GG hub tradition, the opposition is welcome to present their ideas here as well, should they find the courage to do so."

No hugbox. D&C is a possible risk always but shrinking ourselves into a corner isn't what we're here to do. Through discussion we can learn who's doing D&C and what it looks like, otherwise we will only fall for it when it's too late.

Thanks to the 4 who reported.

>>256614

The OP is blatant eceleb drama, it should be bumplocked or deleted on that basis. Especially since it's also D&C and I've seen anti-/pol/ threads similar to this for example get bumplocked.

>>256614

Thanks for the reply. That's a pretty reasonable position.

>>256628

Please listen to this leader's opinion because this leader thinks it's important!

Wow, I lay down for a few hours and this thread really blew the fuck up.

TB can do whatever he likes, I don't have to support it.

And in this case I don't.

I don't play the pronoun game.

If that pisses people off, tough titty.

The ONLY things I HAVE to do are pay taxes and die, you don't get to tell me what to think or how to react to an obvious un-truth, no matter how well-reasoned or the intentions behind it.

I will not under ANY circumstances re-enforce a delusional person's illness.

If that makes me the bad guy to some, fine.

As to "civility", I get what I give.

And as far as I'm concerned, asking me to humor the mentally ill man in a dress is a bridge too far.

I do not hate them, I don't even particularly dislike them.

I pity them, and hope that they'll get the help they need, instead of some feel-good bullshit that does nothing good in most cases, and has been proven to be harmful or even fatal in MANY others.

>>256071

This guy gets it.

>>256652

>>256643

Why are you replying? Why are you not saging?

>>256655

Because you ain't the boss of me, asshole.

I think this is worth responding to, and fuck your sage.

>>255574

>Don't tell me gender disphoria is normal. Crossdressing and changing name don't require surgury and lifelong estrogen injections.

>It's the glorification of sick people that troubles me. Don't encourage them in their delusion even if no cure exist. Now on top of being sick, they have a mutilated body. You are not helping them.

That's just the kind of idiotic, hateful nonsense I've come to expect from GG. "Don't encourage them?" WTF are you on about, scumbag?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/

These people are LITERALLY born into the wrong body. There is no delusion. Yes, they have a condition, and the cure is a sex change, so they can feel at home within themselves.

What the fuck does "glorification of sick people" even mean, shitface? Don't allow them to be happy? Don't allow them to be who they were supposed to be? Fuck you.

>Chopping your dick off isnt the cure fucktard.

Yes, it is. If you're a transgender woman, that's the only cure.

>Fuck them and fuck you.

No, caveman. Fuck you.

>>256674

>increased suicide rate

>cure

>>256671

We don't have the technology to change a person's sex yet and current treatment methods don't really help much.

Just going to leave this here. Involves transgender(ism), journalistic impropriety, possible murder and basically a whole lot of smoke.

Interesting stuff.

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Fuck off shill.

>>256686

Seriously, I don't understand what prompts someone to see blatant offtopic eceleb garbage and decide to respond.

>>256686

How am I a shill, faggot?

>>256687

I can understand the actual shills and trolls just looking to bait I guess, but who looks at a thread like this and decides "time to have a discussion about transgenderism"? The only people participating are those dumb enough to respond and trolls, so it's going to be a terrible conversation.

>>256671

>These people are LITERALLY born into the wrong body. There is no delusion.

You really think that every person claiming to be trans has that condition?

Really? How many doctors do you honestly think will perform brain scans and offer psychological counseling and whatnot before taking a person's money to inject them with hormones and cut off body parts?

The rampant suicide rate of post-op "trans" people seems to indicate that it's not very many.

>>256674

Because the rate of suicide among post-op trans people clearly shows that genital removal completely solves their personal conflict.

>>256671

>the cure is a sex change, so they can feel at home within themselves.

then why doesn't they're chance to commit suicide drop after treatment? Its because it doesn't help. Experts in the field agree and the psychopathic psychologists saying otherwise are blinded by their pride and ideologies.

I suffer from clinical depression and luckily for me psychiatrists have spent long enough to work out that protecting and coddling me from sources of anxiety only makes it worse.

You treat PTSD by approaching triggering situations in controlled environments

You treat depression by identifying sources of anxiety and planning how to deal with it, before it happens.

You treat eating disorders with the facts, you are dangerously big/small and need a proper diet or you will die early.

Your treat phobias by encountering the fear and learning its harmless.

If the best way to treat transexualism is by bubblewrapping them and making the world conform to their personal delusions I will eat my hat.

Mental issues need to be confronted, not catered for. The only fix are short steps towards normality, not leaps into the bizarre.

>>256671

>the cure is a sex change, so they can feel at home within themselves.

then why doesn't they're chance to commit suicide drop after treatment? Its because it doesn't help. Experts in the field agree and the psychopathic psychologists saying otherwise are blinded by their pride and ideologies.

I suffer from clinical depression and luckily for me psychiatrists have spent long enough to work out that protecting and coddling me from sources of anxiety only makes it worse.

You treat PTSD by approaching triggering situations in controlled environments

You treat depression by identifying sources of anxiety and planning how to deal with it, before it happens.

You treat eating disorders with the facts, you are dangerously big/small and need a proper diet or you will die early.

Your treat phobias by encountering the fear and learning its harmless.

If the best way to treat transexualism is by bubblewrapping them and making the world conform to their personal delusions I will eat my hat.

Mental issues need to be confronted, not catered for. The only fix are short steps towards normality, not leaps into the bizarre.

>>256691

>>256692

>>256693

You read a post saying "just the kind of idiotic, hateful nonsense I've come to expect from GG.", didn't realize it was bait, and decided to respond.

>>256634

>>256708

If you're going to change IPs in between bumping shill threads, shouldn't you use a different post?

>>256692

And you treat transgender tendencies by facing the fact that you are transgender.

>>256709

This is more like advanced shitposting for me

>>256715

Actually I'm pretty sure it just shits up the board and discourages anyone who visits from contributing because they don't see anything worthwhile. I'm guessing that's the point though.

Wow, you idiots actually thought that TotalFaggot is an ally? LOL!

and trannies are mentally illed disgusting human trash. If they don't disturb my circles i don't care about them but if they do like Wu then they can fuck off and die!

>>256719

Fuck off shill.

>>256723

Decided not to bump with pictures of aircraft anymore?

>>256720

Fuck off tranny lover!

>>256729

You're not very subtle.

The people who encourage trannies are even worse than the trannies themselves.