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[–]thewh00ster1 85ポイント86ポイント  (51子コメント)

Not a fan of her voice, humor, or content, and I hold no ill will against her, but I think this whole situation is overblown.

[–]Static-Jak 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've absolutely no issue with her as a person. She genuinely seems like a fun person to be around.

Content wise, I'm not a huge fan honestly. It's just not my cup of tea. At the same time when she does have a serious discussion (which she does in the podcast) about a game I think she's great, just not a fan of the rest of her content.

But any attack on her as a person, any kind of transphobia, is just unacceptable and just plain disgusting.

There was some pretty nasty comments in the other thread before the mods stepped in but I'm pretty confident they're in the minority.

[–]Nivius 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

agree with this, she isn't a YTer that i will go watch, but she does bring good things to discussions and is genuinely interesting.

[–]Okichah[S] 22ポイント23ポイント  (44子コメント)

All the offending comments got purged so it doesnt look like anything happened.

Also butts.

[–]Waytofind 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

This issue is that for people, like myself, who only heard of something going on later, is that we have no way of knowing what exactly was said and in what numbers.

It would not surprise me that were there a cashed version that i'd go "is this it?". Happened before with TB.

Then again it may have been actually real bad, just can't know now.

[–]banana_pirate 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried looking at the comments unedditreddit caught, bunch of bad ones but no really bigoted ones, there weren't many so it was probably too late... damn you mods and your speedy work ethic!

edit also a negative on the internet archive.

[–]somesillydude 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

With neither unedditreddit, archives, or anything but the mods actually reporting having seen them... I'm kind of thinking there weren't that many comments honestly.

It just seems TB got really defensive for one of his guests when he saw something and din't want to start a witch hunt of one or two guys to me but still wanted to call out dickheads.

I base this on how he has defended guests in the past. (Even when they were totally in the wrong, not that Laura was in any way in the wrong here.)

[–]banana_pirate 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

to be fair both archived versions were created when the post was already more than 8 hours old.

[–]gyroda 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

TB mentioned in his Sound Cloud thing that it was also in youtube comments, which only he can see.

[–]drunkenvalley [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the youtube comments are literally just cancer.

[–]AofANLA 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure but think of it this way. TB came out and said that there was a problem on the subreddit, and going from Laura and her friend's Twitter accounts they clearly thought there was also.

It's a pretty poor move to hear all of that and say from a position of no evidence that "yeaaah, it was probably just overblown I doubt there was anything really wrong".

[–]VidiotGamer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's a pretty poor move to hear all of that and say from a position of no evidence that "yeaaah, it was probably just overblown I doubt there was anything really wrong".

It's just pragmatic. A lot of people like to see evidence for themselves. The chances are high that if TB thought there was an issue, I'd probably think there was as well, but I'd still like to know rather than trust.

[–]randomizeplz 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think you mean "and" not "but." Nothing preceding your "but" suggested that you would have any empathy, so your indicating your lack of empathy does not require a "but."

butts

[–]thewh00ster1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

OP asked for butts, i had to deliver. It was a stylistic choice not a technical one.

[–]jjjuser 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously I open the thread and this it top comment...fml

Butts!

[–]KXI_System 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm not sure what this is about, anyone mind filling me in?

[–]green715 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

Laura, the latest podcast guest, happened to be transgender. Transphobic and insulting comments directed towards her were made in the subreddit, and it was so bad that TB made a Soundcloud about it.

[–]TypicalLibertarian 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Most of the criticisms weren't about her being transgender though.

(at least here on Reddit, dunno what was on Youtube comment section.)

[–]clickeddaisy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Tb has disabled the comments section years ago

[–]WyMANderly 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, but he mentioned in the Soundcloud that he had gone to look at the comments "under review" (which is where they go now) for that video.

Why, I cannot guess. That was an incredible mistake, and I have no idea why he did it. The people leaving those comments aren't part of his audience in the first place, as they would know comments aren't enabled. But anyway... I think a few critical comments in the subreddit were a bit overblown by TB after he got mad from reading the YT comments.

[–]clickeddaisy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, i did not know that was a thing on yt, and i can kinda understand tb getting mad at some assholes insulting his friend(?)

[–]The-red-Dane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, the reason you're saying that, is because all the insults hurled at her for being transgender were removed and the users banned from the subreddit, so of course all we can see it the fair and balanced criticism of her.

The mods have mentioned several times that they've banned more people the last two days than they have in a long looong time, on the grounds that they won't tolerate hate towards guests on the show, regardless of reason for said hate.

[–]nelshai [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You should have seen the comments section (On reddit,) before the mods all woke up and went full battle stations mode.

I'm trans and have a fairly thick skin but I couldn't help but empathise with Laura. Some incredibly cruel and hateful stuff was posted. Most of the criticisms now are just about LauraK but that was not the case before the mods started bringing out the banhammer.

[–]VredeJohn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, she is? I've been listening to her on Podquisition, and I honestly had no idea. I guess you learn something new every day...

[–]DrCaesars_Palace_MD -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

This subreddit is hating on her a lot. Completely irrational, usually.

[–]KXI_System 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just listened to TB's recent soundcloud, and I actually liked her voice :/

You can't do anything about people who aren't willing to change.

[–]DrCaesars_Palace_MD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love her. I'm agender myself, and I see her as very inspiring, being a trans game journalist. Laura is a wonderful person and has a positive effect on me. It's disgusting how people treated her.

[–]themwords 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought she was very funny! Made my night listening to her on the show!

[–]Dingleberry_Jones 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had never even heard of her until today's co-optional and I liked her, I thought she offered great input and was very knowledgeable about games. Good guest, good show overall.

[–]thirdsketch 35ポイント36ポイント  (34子コメント)

Not a fan of her voice. I had no idea she was transgender until I read up on her afterwards. Still, she seems cool. But if I can't enjoy the voice, I cannot enjoy the podcast.

[–]MisterCata 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, I didn't mind her voice, but holy crap does Crendor's voice grind on my eardrums something horrible.

De gustibus and all that.

[–]bathrobehero 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

Same reason I dislike Crendor; he's great but his laugh annoys me for some reason so much that I just have to stop watching. I tried several times but I just can't ignore it.

Personally, I hover between disliking and tolerating most of the guests on the show and I like maybe 1 in 20 of them (Stylosa/Kirioth from UnitLost comes to mind) and love the core members and it's just shows that everybody have different preferences.

[–]thirdsketch 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Crendor sounds like a stoner. It's hilarious.

[–]Tintunabulo 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh I'd say it goes a bit further than 'sounds'.. could be 'acts', 'thinks', maybe even 'is'.. sky's the limit really. Love the guy though.

[–]MrManicMarty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He's just the Avatar of Non-Content, everything he does is a paradox - it is both an action, but a non-action at the same time.

[–]Holybasil 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would for the most part agree. It's usually why I especially enjoy episodes that are either done at cons or with "guests" like pusheen the cat since it's the core group.

[–]Okichah[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

1/4 of the podcast.

Bunnyhop has a habit of inflecting up at the end of every sentence that grated on me for a bit. But i got used to it and was able to enjoy the podcast. I can see how if i was unable to get over it it would be frustrating. But thats on me.

Also butts.

[–]Adderkleet 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, the "Valley Girl" inflection? That got blamed on watching TV in the UK - since it was predominantly American? Just like the "vocal fry" that (if you Google it) will annoy you even more.

[–]Tintunabulo 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Welp, googled it, got annoyed, so, you were right.

[–]Adderkleet 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The main thing is: They're old, and they're everywhere. Vocal fry has existed as long as recorded media, but is considered a "modern nuisance" by people in the US to the degree that This American Life did an episode on it.

[–]AofANLA 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

And in that episode they focused on how it was that people *just happened* to keep finding things that mostly young women did annoying.

[–]Hippy80 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Voice isn't an issue for me, but I also was unaware of her being Transgender. Now I know, it doesn't change anything.
Those who have an issue with it should just grow up and join the modern world. Treat people as you would want to be treated, regardless of gender, race, religion, or political creed. I'm not saying you can't disagree, but ffs, respect is a basic requirement.

[–]thirdsketch 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't mind transgender people and I never said otherwise.

[–]Hippy80 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you, but a response that I also didn't know she was transgender. Sorry if I implied otherwise.

[–]Clarkopus 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is the best I can do

[–]Wylf 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh. Oh. It's duckbutt. Of course.

[–]Nivius 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol wow

whould you fight 1 horse size duckbutt or 100 duck sized duckbutts

[–]Cyberspark939 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is precisely the reason why I think deleting the threads is a bad policy.

Covering up something is tantamount to pretending it didn't happen and doesn't exist. Sure, lock the thread, but if this thread hadn't existed I wouldn't have known about it.

Even then there's absolutely no proof that I can easily find of it so it's hard to entirely commit myself 100% to it due to uncertainty.

There's nothing to be gained by deleting and hiding things like this. It only protects those that do it in the first place.

[–]mortdraken [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I shouted for her to go on stage during Dodger's panel at CoxCon, I think her content is fantastic and great fun and I felt she enhanced the panel. There were also people queuing to see Laura after the panels, even though she wasn't officially on any panel. The support for her is out there, there is just that vocal minority that like to be complain. There are always ways to avoid the content, vote with your view, not by insulting people.

[–]Tonur 5ポイント6ポイント  (9子コメント)

I just met Laura a few weeks ago at Coxcon. I hugged her, got her to sign my shit. I had no idea she was transgender, but that shouldn't change my oppinion of her from when I didn't knew.

And her voice is a bit special, but it's not something to whine about, Laura is still cool. My grandmother has a special voice, but that don't make me want to kill her, does it? Laura is fucking cool, and the best!

Big support for Laura. Oh and I heard butts were required? http://i.imgur.com/1SdX7oh.png

Edit: Oh my fucking god, I am so sorry. My first language is not English, so I have issues, please excuse me. I called Transgender "Transphobic" because I couldn't understand English that well.

[–]CystemicCondition 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

Whoa. You made a critical spelling error in your second sentence. "Transgender", not "transphobic".

[–]Tonur 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am so sorry, and thank you so much. I am terrible at English sometimes, so I mess up quite often. I fixed it, so thanks again!

[–]crilor 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

transphobic

Transgender.

[–]Tonur 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for helping me out! I am not that good at English, so I mess up quite a lot.

[–]The-red-Dane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At least you admit your mistakes and fix them. So you're doing awesome. :D

[–]Hans_Power 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like her - she's honest, funny and knowledgable and that's what matters. As for her life choices - I really, REALLY don't care as long as she's happy with it which seems to be case. So I simply don't understand people who take offence in her presence at all. I only get furious if anyone actually tries to harm me directly in any way but everything else simply doesn't concern me so I don't get why people even care about her sexual and/or gender orientation. Must be insecurity on these peoples part but on the other hand I am also pretty insecure myself in some aspects and I can still manage my life without shaming others, so this behaviour is rather alien to me. Also BUTTS!

[–]StandingCow 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

She is one of the hosts on the Jimquisition... her voice is ok, I mostly listen for Jim.

Don't really care about her life choices one way or another since it's her life to live, if what she does makes her happy good for her. Why do people care what other people do when it has no impact on how they live their life?

As far as posting butts.. I am at work... so I will edit this later with a butt.

Edit: A butt!

[–]Pr0nzeh 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Still waiting for that butt.

[–]StandingCow 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

butt delivered! let me know if it is acceptable.

[–]CaptainK3v 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

As a fan of toilet humor and British people, I very much enjoy when Laura comes on the podcast. Don't much give a shit that she's transgender. One of my uncles is and it's never once come up because it doesn't matter.

For the transphobic folks out there, I fully respect your right to be an old world douche, this is America and we can think whatever the fuck we want. That being said, go fuck yourselves and just stop spewing hate on the internet.

[–]donblowfishthe true Ralph Wiggum 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is not just America. The problem is the internet. People think that as they are anonymous on the internet rules don't apply anymore. The good thing about asshats on the internet is that as they crawl out of the woodwork we can smack the over the head with the banhammer

[–]Okichah[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

[–]OverlordAdams 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Okay... where the hell are you finding this? It's bloody gold.

[–]WyMANderly 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like they're from some anime called Strange+.

[–]Mekeji 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't have any images of butts to post that wouldn't be borderline pornographic but I would very much like to know what anime that is. I need context to know what I am looking at.

[–]shunkwugga 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm scared to ask where that image is from if it's not an original work.

Still, Laura gets all the respect for dealing with this shit.

[–]Fatdude3 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What happened?

[–]BrainiEpic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People were veeery... negative in podcast post to Laura.. :/

[–]Sky-Sky [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I only caught the tail-end of this.

I think there is a difference between attacking someone for something they cannot help or choose, such as their skin colour, sexuality, and so on; and criticising someone for things they have control over - their jokes, the beliefs they choose to associate with, etc. There is a danger of saying that just because someone perhaps has to deal with the unfortunate reality of bigots and abuse in one area (such as their transgender status) they cannot be criticised in other areas (the views or things they choose to say). That is, incidentally, what I understand the SJW label applies to - a person who will demand that someone else who might attract, say, sexism, is immune to criticism, challenge or even ridicule and abuse that has little to do with targeting their gender and that instead stems from the things they say.

Is it possible to give an example of the sort of posts that TB was referring to in his soundcloud? The transphobic comments. As I understand they've been deleted now. I am curious whether they were gender-blind criticisms, or attacks on someone because of their trans status.

Trans in general is an area I am not that clued up on, apart from thinking someone can identify however they like - it is THEIR identity, after all, and no one else's. I am quite curious anout the science and facts behind it, though.

[–]The-red-Dane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sometimes the internet can be shitty, Laura got the brunt of it and that sucks. And it happened because of coming on TB's show which sucks.

Wait, are you sure you're phrasing that correctly?

Also, thanks to Laura, and the OP, I know have the search terms "big buff guy butt" and "Muscular guy butt" in google. Thanks.... I was considering just going for some furry butt, but then I found this adorable gluteus maximus: http://i.imgur.com/7nS66yu.jpg

[–]MRwho23 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Could anyone clarify for me what happend to Laura after the show ?

I'm kinda late for this so I guess most info may already be erased or locked (the hostile/death menssages towards her I mean)

[–]Nelemania 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

(NSFW? How to draw butts) http://imgur.com/gallery/zRD7m

I vote for more butt and less asshole-ish people in life!

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    [–]Sloppymayor 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You literally told them to kill themselves.

    [–]Caridor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What the butt anime is this?

    [–]Narfhole 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why is there another thread about this situation? I just learned about this person because of the drama. Is two sides of a pissed off fanbase and a lot of attention for this person I just learned of really appropriate?

    [–]Obi-Wan_Kannabis [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

    Why do people dislike Laura? And I mean besides the transphobes, I know there's other reasons, please someone inform me I feel completely lost here...

    [–]VidiotGamer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Personally I don't find her funny and some of the more inappropriate things she says border on creepy.

    I'm actually kind of annoyed at your comment here:

    And I mean besides the transphobes...

    It's like people just want to pick a fight or something about this, since it appears the inference is "if you don't like this persons content or humor then you are a bigot."

    Personally I'm of the opinion that these days on the internet (in particularly the internet!) there is a huge contingent of people who are anxiously waiting on the sidelines to focus with laser like precision on someones gender/identity/race/religion/whatever and not just to attack them, but to defend them too, to the point where they go out and accuse people of having motivations or opinions that they don't actually hold.

    [–]Obi-Wan_Kannabis [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    That's what I meant, I know there might be a few transphobes, but I know that most of the criticism wasn't about that, even though it was thrown in there as if it was.

    I wasn't making any implication with my comments, I was asking a plain and simple question and didn't want anyone to come and say: "transphobia" because there's more to it than that.

    [–]intellectualPoverty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    It is subjective I suppose, but I found the voice and presentation to come across as extremely un-genuine and annoying, and borderline creepy (obsession with sex/butts/etc).

    I didn't know a think about him until an hour ago, and didn't realize he was trans until reading the comments here. I just thought it was a guy wearing a wig, who was kinda weird, but maybe I'm not allowed to say that because he's trans.

    I honestly don't get this thread in general. If I asked for a thread with pictures of butts, people would think I'm a weirdo, but apparently it's ok of trans.

    [–]ChrisWF 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    It's not the prettiest, but here goes my butt , for Laura ;)

    [–]The-red-Dane [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    What a glorious vantage point you have there brother!

    Where might this be?

    [–]ChrisWF [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    That's a celtic stonefort in southwest Ireland which I visited last month! :)

    [–]loliger_rofler -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Butts for the butt god!

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