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[–]RoadSideGlories 94ポイント95ポイント  (5子コメント)

From the description I was on your side, then I loaded up the videos expecting to see smoke pouring from the tyres burnout and gnarly drifts and I was met with... A whole lot of nothing to be honest with you.

From the footage its clear that the tech for some reason as suspected a fault with the differential. There are limited ways and means of testing a differential or any part in the driveline because often faults only occur when the wheels are on the road and the parts are 'loaded up' with the stress and forces they have to deal with.

Bearing this in mind, and making the assumption that the tech isn't the shiniest spanner in the toolbox (I have no idea why he was thinking diff before even swapping tyres!) I can see how a "burnout" seemed like a plausible test.

I actually quite liked the 'slide' test. Like I said, testing the operation of a differential under load is difficult but possible in the highly unlikely situation the workshop has a dyno, but testing the locking functions in lateral motion is impossible without causing it to lock, which will only happen if the wheels break traction. A dirt patch where you can get nice slow 10MPH slides seems like an excellent diagnostic test. Its clear that the guy wasn't trying to get his Ken Block on and seemed respectful of your vehicle.

I think the people on the 'Sue them' bandwagon are literally insane. Sue them for...? The 0.1mm or so tread from the tires? The service manager not knowing what he was talking about? Swapping wheels without telling you? The tech being a bit of a dum-dum? How exactly have the customers been unacceptably inconvenienced or affected physically, mentally or financially?

I can see why you might be upset, but it really isn't a big deal.

[–]Ialmostthewholepost 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'll side with you here. Why? Because I know when I've made mistakes when driving, I'm usually the first person to bitch myself out for fucking up, damage or no damage.

So much so that they get no traction at 40 degrees even on a sunny clear day fresh out of the driveway. Spun out, hit a curb, lesson learned. The damage is to the driver side and needed; both rims, tires, rear knuckle, wheel hubs, wheel bearings, and shock absorbers.. *Protip - leave traction control off, and play with the throttle, don’t brake when sliding. *

Or... play with your car responsibly. How fast does someone exit their driveway and cause this much damage?

I listen to the audio. The tech bad mouths us for getting a car that is ‘too much for us’ and that we are ‘****ing bad drivers’ There is more colorful language than that but I’ll spare you the details. I’m furious now.

Right. Because they actually are bad fucking drivers. The fact that these people buy a RWD sports car and stuffed it, damaged it, and then act like little princesses...

Lady, you guys fucked up. Take your admonishment from the guys who were not the ones to crash your car. You went to all the effort to make the shop guys out as the bad guys. Where the fuck is OP's dash cam footage of her fuck up?

TL:DR - Evidence given suggests that OP is an entitled bag of sticks. Evidence also suggests that OP should have spent more time learning to take candid criticism from what is likely an illegal wire tap. Evidence also suggests that OP and hubby are better at litigation than driving, and that all of their extra time and money would have been better spent on some performance driving school lessons before committing to a car that is over his and her heads. Good thing no one was injured.

The Crown rests.

Edit: New evidence has appeared.

http://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/3hza3r/dealership_burnsout_2015_mustang_claiming/cubzxnr

Seems like OP has some "splaaaaaainin' to dooo". Thanks Ricky...

[–]RoadSideGlories 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yo Dude, you wanna be my Lawyer?

[–]Ialmostthewholepost 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do you pay in upvotes?

I accept upvotes. And weed. Oh, send whiskey too.

[–]RoadSideGlories 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship...

Or we'll never cross paths again. I'm easy.

[–]Josh_McDeezey1990 Celica All-trac Turbo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about sexual favors?

[–]DLRNRD 93ポイント94ポイント  (9子コメント)

This guy almost hit me hot dogging in Duluth. Then a dealership that I have ties to gets ripped on? The car was fixed. Many people went into restoring his brand new blue 5.0 and he rips on them for cussing and joy riding. Give me a break. I should have called the Duluth police, now I know who did it... small world.

How much was the bill?

-----Harrington on http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?1082884-Dealership-burnsout-2015-Mustang-claiming-diagnostic-test

Dash cam footage of the crash. The sun was in my husband's eyes so he asked me if it was clear to pull out, I said 'go quick' so he could pull out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQL1Upuq64g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48vAEwA2IA

[–]Juggled2013 Mustang GT A6 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

After watching that video. Please get your husband driving lessons. Don't blame the tires on your husband turning off traction control and driving like a tool for the accident.

[–]iksarmonk 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Entitled people: drive recklessly on the street and can't accept responsibility for their actions. The DRIVER cut someone off, tried to accelerate and had zero control of the car, over corrected and crashed. Then you post a sob storyabout the dealership testing if the locking differential was engaging, but worded it to sound like they were doing 50-foot smoke-rolling burnouts. Not only is your husband a shitty driver and a threat to car enthusiasts, he is also a threat to the home owner who's property he crashed into, anyone who had their cars parked along that street, and thankfully there were no pedestrians on that sidewalk he jumped onto sideways.

The best thing that came from this is the dealership took the car away from him during the diagnostics period and he couldn't endanger himself or anyone else.

[–]AGoatOnYourDesk 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No kidding. Traction control is there to help people like this.

[–]thephenom212010 Infiniti G37x | 2003 Suzuki SV650S 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

This needs to go to the top. This seals the deal, these people are complete and utter idiots.

[–]stealthxero 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

This needs to be at the top. We are clearly not dealing with a person who thinks things through.

[–]Ialmostthewholepost 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why the heck isn't this up at the top? Linking to your comment from a higher level reply. Let's get this seen.

[–]Troggie421984 Mazda RX-7 12a, 1990 Honda CRX Si DOHC ZC 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Protip! If you're trying to paint the dealer as a bad guy and that you're absolved of any wrongdoing whatsoever, don't leave the evidence that you're a goddamn moron up on your YouTube page. :D

[–]Zniped87 MR2 01 Celica GT 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bump this shit up, these are OPs videos of their crash. Sweet drift bruh, im sure your insurance company is happy after watching that video.

[–]potaton 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"What the hell happened?"

"The tires are too cold!

This is like your friend that sucked at video games but would always blame the controller everytime you beat him at Smash Bros. or Mario Kart 64

[–]Starkeshia 31ポイント32ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see no abuse here.

The tech is intently studying the behavior of the tires during the burnout. At worst, we're seeing a boneheaded tech's diagnostic strategy.

Get it fixed, and go on with your life.

[–]beep412002 Blaze Yellow Subaru WRX 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here's the accident that caused all this: https://youtu.be/LQL1Upuq64g

For starters, your husband needs to learn to drive. If you had let off the gas when you started sliding the car would've corrected itself. You were "fresh out of the driveway" and didn't give a chance for the tires to warm up.

And as for people saying there was no abuse done, I agree. I'm no mechanic, but anyone can see that from those two videos there was no abuse. It legitimately looked like they were testing something. There could have been better ways to test it, but there was no abuse.

And people get talked about behind there backs all the time, deal with it. No reason you need a lawyer, and at this point the dealership is only giving you free stuff so you'll go away because this truly is a waste of everyone's time.

[–]KCBassCadet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, I am kinda pissed off that people like that drive up my insurance premiums and warranty costs. What the hell was that guy thinking?

[–]rustede30 103ポイント104ポイント  (2子コメント)

Honestly it looks and sounds like they were checking to see if you shattered something in the diff by hitting the curb. There isn't really a better way to do that without pulling it apart (which would have cost you a lot more money) than spinning the tires while you can see what's happening as that's the time that your diff does what it's designed to do. Also that little bit of "burning out" (hardly the case) isn't going to put enough wear on your tires for you to see it.

As for them driving around on the dirt kind of crazy (again they could have been checking the diff or suspension) shouldn't have happened but it didn't damage your car.

Them saying that you bought a car that you couldn't handle after wrecking your brand new sports car with 1000 miles on it while trying to pull out of your drive way and then blaming it on your tires not being able to handle 40 degree weather is a fair assumption. Should they have said it in front of you? No, but they didn't really do that either. Completely unprofessional, but at the end of the day they're mechanics that thought they were alone. Grow up, you're not entitled to "compensation" because your feelings are hurt.

Honestly it looks like (to me) that you're looking for an excuse to be mad. They weren't grossly negligent with the handling of your car from what's been showed and even if they were you would be hard pressed to get anyone who knows about cars to agree that it was material (didn't cost you anything). Those are the things a judge would look at before awarding you anything if you tried to sue them. Now if they were actually out there smoking your tires and launching your car around a rally track as you made it sound in your post you might have a claim but what youve shown isn't anything that couldn't be reasonably explained.

[–]Starkeshia 49ポイント50ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly it looks like (to me) that you're looking for an excuse to be mad.

Amen.

[–]el_muerte171987 Camaro Z-28, 1989 MR2 S/C 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

blaming it on your tires not being able to handle 40 degree weather

I just went WTF when I read that. Even drag slicks would hook up above freezing as long as the ground is dry. Shit, I made it through a couple winters riding worn out all-seasons on my old Camaro in a town that averages almost 2m of snowfall a year and managed not to run into any curbs. Techs were talking shit about OP because OP doesn't know how to handle the car.

[–]DudebuD16 48ポイント49ポイント  (19子コメント)

Tbh, during the burnout it actually looks like they're trying to diagnose something instead of fucking around.

As for everything else, I'd be pretty pissed about it. TBH though, if you know your tires are not good in the cold/while cold then you should probably take it easy or switch to a more appropriate tire. My summer tires suck complete ass in the rain and I spin badly in both 1st and 2nd and have managed to 4 wheel slide it while taking a turn at 30km/h. Adjust your driving.

[–]CountFarussiSN95 5.0 - 07 Jeep GC 6ポイント7ポイント  (17子コメント)

Thing is they could have just thrown it on the lift put it in neutral and spun the tires by hand. If they move together everything's fine. If they move opposite the diff isn't doing its job if its LSD equipped.

[–]rustede30 11ポイント12ポイント  (13子コメント)

They state in the clip that it's not an lsd it has a locking ring that only engages under load. There really isn't a better way to test that unless they were to pull apart the diff and inspect every piece.

[–]CountFarussiSN95 5.0 - 07 Jeep GC 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Well considering its warranty labor rate, it doesn't surprise me they would diagnose it this way. It should have been taken apart and inspected.

[–]rustede30 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wrecking your car does not entitle you to a warranty. They or their insurance would have had to pay for that. Honestly it probably would have been replaced or sent out before a general mechanic from a dealership pulled apart a diff. Before replacing it they needed to diagnose if it was still working. It's not like they were out there just wasting the tires.

The amount of people that are lawsuit happy without knowing dick about basic contract law is insane. She wouldn't get shit in a lawsuit. She might throw a big enough fit that the dealership might fear the bad press and give her something to shut her up but that's it.

[–]DudebuD16 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yup, that's a less retarded way of doing it. But they definitely weren't fucking around that's for sure.

[–]GreatOwl1 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having done my fair share of burnouts, there is no way the "burnout" in that video wore down your tires any significant amount.

[–]el_muerte171987 Camaro Z-28, 1989 MR2 S/C 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

According to that test, the limited slip in my Camaro works perfectly. It's a different story under load, though.

[–]fishboy2000 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry op but when I read your initial post I was expecting to see a good old fashioned skidfest. The guys were trying to fix your car

[–]DanskOstE30 | E36 ChumpCar | B5 S4 Avant 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not like they were doing big smokey burnouts and then came up with the diff excuse to cover their asses when they got caught. They were giving just enough gas to break traction for a split second, and their discussion of the diff and checking tire spin was captured clearly on audio.

Sliding the car a little a 15mph in an open dirt area is actually a safe way of testing traction/stability control.

Neither of those do damage to the car, and the amount of tread wasted is practically zero.

As for you guys being bad drivers, I'm sorry, but I find myself in agreement with the techs:

Crash vid

[–]D_Berry31709 Pontiac G8 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm finding myself in agreement with the techs also. You can clearly tell they are checking for damage to the diff and line lock with the "burnouts". The whipping it in the dirt didn't look like it did any damage so I don't see what the problem there is, TC could have been malfunctioning and the best thing was to run it through the dirt real quick.

As for these drivers, I think they need to downgrade. It didn't sound like he gave it much gas, then whiskey-throttled it once he started to spin. Seems like these 2 need some driving lessons. He clearly said, "I couldn't see traffic". SO WHY DID YOU PULL OUT?!

[–]realister2015 Ford Focus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Worst driver I have seen I. Years

[–]UsedtoMoveMetal 19ポイント20ポイント  (13子コメント)

OK -- car dealership dude here.

First off, everyone telling you to get a lawyer is wholly incorrect and making this into something it isn't.

There is no reason to be doing burnouts in your Mustang. There is no reason for them to be badmouthing you in your vehicle when they're being recorded.

However, none of this is worth a lawyers time and all you would be doing is wasting your time.

Also, unless this goes viral, FORD doesn't care -- you're just one of the thousands of people that call everyday to file a complaint or have an issue with a dealer.

Let's make this simple. Call the Dealership GENERAL MANAGER, politely explain what happened, tell him you have video of it from the dash cam and are not happy about what has happened.

Ask what they can do and when you do this, have something in mind that you want from them, because the first thing he/she is going to ask is what do you want.

Once that had been settled, do not take your car back there anymore.

[–]mrdotkom2010 Subaru Legacy 6MT -5ポイント-4ポイント  (7子コメント)

There is no reason for them to be badmouthing you in your vehicle when they're being recorded.

That audio is illegal in just about every state. No party consented to it.

[–]UsedtoMoveMetal 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oh -- so everyone that posts a video/audio online is getting charged for illegal wiretapping?

[–]mrdotkom2010 Subaru Legacy 6MT 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

if they're taking someone to court as most of these comments suggest...

[–]UsedtoMoveMetal 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since you didn't read my previous comment, let's bold it for you

First off, everyone telling you to get a lawyer is wholly incorrect and making this into something it isn't.

There is no reason to be doing burnouts in your Mustang. There is no reason for them to be badmouthing you in your vehicle when they're being recorded.

However, none of this is worth a lawyers time and all you would be doing is wasting your time.

[–]Pleatnov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dashcam footage is allowed in court. The same way footage from a convenience store robbery would be allowed or a home invasion.

You think criminals give permission to have a court view video footage of them commiting crimes?

Clearly the techs in the video are doing their job and not being intentionally malicious with OPs vehicle but your comment was just too stupid and needed correction. Internet lawyers suck.

[–]mikredditor2004 Mitsubishi Endeavor LS -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Minnesota seems to be a one party state. The people who own the car consented to the recording in their vehicle...

[–]mrdotkom2010 Subaru Legacy 6MT 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

The people who own the car consented to the recording in their vehicle

that's not at all how it works. The consenting party has to be a party to the conversation.

[–]n0th1ng_r3al1997 Honda Accord Coupe, 2001 Honda Civic 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not to be a jerk, but does OP know what a burnout is?

[–]Troggie421984 Mazda RX-7 12a, 1990 Honda CRX Si DOHC ZC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, a burnout is what her husband did when he crashed in to the curb.

[–]So_Full_Of_Fail74 Datsun 260z 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You sound like people that need to leave traction control ON. Not turn it off. Clearly you have no idea how to handle a car that makes power without the nannies.

You seemingly also had no experience with performance summer tires. Shocker, they don't work well in the cold, rain, and are absolutely not to be used in snow.

If anything, the part I would have been upset about is the dirt driving over concerns of rock chips in the paint behind the tires.

It's not like it was a smoky rolling burnout. Now, I'm not saying they should have done it in the first place, but, that wasn't going to damage anything, either. The non-driving tech is clearly looking at the wheels to see if something is wrong, and not standing back just to watch a burnout.

[–]creativeid 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

hey weren't really fucking around. actually tried finding the problem. shut up and quit trying to make it a big deal. you probably can't handle the car if you are claiming they tore it up or whatever. from what I've seen, they didn't do anything wrong. know about cars before buying a fast one.

[–]t4d 105ポイント106ポイント  (21子コメント)

No. Burnouts are not a diagnostic process. If it isnt aligned, burnouts arent an answer. 200 miles is waaaaaaaaaay more mileage for diag than is required.

Simple answer, you have enough footage and info to sue the dealer. If they dont pay for everything at this point, take them to court.

The service manager may try to cover it up, to protect staff, however you should deal with the general operations manager or the dealer principle.

As a technician myself, this is what gives us a bad name.

[–]Snow_drift 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm curious if you watched the Videos? They paint a fairly different story. There is no hooning or idiocy, just a mild rear wheel spin in bursts of a few seconds while another tech is looking at the rear wheels (checking each side) to see if the rear drivetrain is walking side to side at all. The dirt video also just looks like they're testing something. They drive it gently onto a loose surface and poke the throttle then immediately back off. They do that twice, at very low speeds, and quite gently.

[–]vitaming 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

id hardly even call it a burnout, theyre clearly not just doing it for fun.

[–]FallingDarkness 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

There was no 200-mile test drive. You misread.

On both invoices they list test drives, but the mileage in and the mileage out are the exact same. 1009 the first time 1219 the second time.

OP is saying that that they recorded no difference in milage before and after the test drive on two separate occasions, likely because the techs didn't drive the car for more than 1 mile.

[–]Zniped87 MR2 01 Celica GT 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where did the 200 miles come from?

1219 - 1009 = 210, what am I missing that has me not understanding everyone

[–]acog'15 Dodge Charger Hellcat 18ポイント19ポイント  (9子コメント)

you have enough footage and info to sue the dealer

Sue them for what? What exactly are you suing for? Break down the damages that need to be compensated. The 200 miles is going to be negligible if a court goes by Runzheimer rates, right? That's a whopping $10. Are you suing for tires? If so that's small claims, you can't use don't need a lawyer.

[–]Ohbeejuan2007 Ford Focus 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Advising with a lawyer would still be highly preferable. If OP just wants tires that would small claims court. He should still meet with a lawyer at least once just to get his case straight.

[–]acog'15 Dodge Charger Hellcat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, it's fine if the lawyer offers a free consultation, just so you can hear out of the lawyer's own mouth that this is pointless.

[–]mynameisalso 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Small claims court for a new set of tires and small compensation for their time. It's very easy to do and no lawyers need to be involved.

[–]Pleatnov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damages, tires, all service cost. Small claims. Very simple process. No lawyer needed. Probably a loss for OP however after seeing the footage. I don't necessarily see anything inappropriate happening in the videos. It all looks like work was being done.

[–]Loves2Poo 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Whether or not he can use an attorney in small claims court is entirely dependent on the state.

[–]acog'15 Dodge Charger Hellcat 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Interesting! I lived in CA for a long time, where it's expressly disallowed so I made the mistake of thinking it was universal.

[–]Pleatnov 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can represent yourself or have a lawyer represent you. You may not show up to court with a lawyer however. Big companies are sued like this all the time and they usually send a lawyer as representation.

[–]syphon0202'95 S14 sr20det, '95 Miata, '90 Miata, '15 m235i, '88 CRX HF 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you should watch the videos...

[–]orthopod997 GT3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reread statement - they didn't drive 200 miles, as these were 2 separate occasions that the car was brought in.

[–]bigsquirrel2010 Camaro Custom 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pro tip, take some performance driving lessons. Seriously not trying to be mean but if you spun out on a dry road you could use some lessons. Look up your local SCCA. You'll be a better, safer driver and have more fun with the car. I agree with most of the thread, you're being a bit of a drama queen that all seemed reasonable and actually a pretty smart diagnostic.

[–]olek20121997 BMW E36 'vert 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly I don't see anything wrong. I don't think you have much of a case. Sorry

[–]abeans0707 Speed3 / '98 SVT Contour 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah i'm going to have to side with the dealer after looking at ALL your videos, you are completely upset for all the wrong reasons. Get over it.

[–]KriskobgS2000 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

"the PP tires are not rated for cold weather. So much so that they get no traction at 40 degrees even on a sunny clear day fresh out of the driveway."

Have you ever heard of warming up the tires?

[–]Starkeshia 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you ever heard of warming up the tires?

By doing a burnout?

[–]556x45mmI like minivans. 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

40 degrees is hardly cold weather. After a few minutes driving the tires would be plenty warm.

[–]WorldsWorstMan2014 BMW M235i 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Never mind warming them up. Having driven in sub zero temperatures on summer tires in much more powerful cars than a Mustang GT, the tires are no excuse. Does it reduce traction? Absolutely. It is still drivable? Absolutely. This was user stupidity without a doubt.

[–]KriskobgS2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My sentiment exactly. I run extreme summers all year round when there is no snow on the ground, no issues. If anything I'll have some sliding fun the first few minutes when I drive but then the tires warm up and are completely normal.

[–]KCBassCadet 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I also have a 2015 GT PP. The stock Pirelli tires are absolute trash. I bought my car in February and could not believe that Ford is penny-pinching so much that they just can't pay the tiny bit more for Michelin Pilot Super Sports, another summer high performance tire but one that actually will give you some semblance of traction.

The shittyness of these tires is widely known and discussed on the Mustang forums. This is no secret and is common knowledge.

If I have my Mustang another 6 months I'll get rid of these tires for some Michelins, no question.

[–]KriskobgS2000 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What Pirelli model is it

[–]Three_Fifty'86 911 Turbo, '08 G37 6MT, '04 Cayenne, '13 335i, '07 A4 34ポイント35ポイント  (2子コメント)

Demand compensation, then tell them you'll have your lawyer contact them. If they don't do anything, get a lawyer and have him contact them

EDIT: Well after reading all your responses and watching your husband crash, I'm 100% confident that none of this is the dealer's fault. Get your husband some driving lessons or trade the Mustang in for a Fiesta until he learns how to handle a RWD car with more than 150hp...

[–]rustede30 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

No real lawyer would want this case after comparing the videos to her statement unless they were being paid upfront.

[–]FallingDarkness 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

No kidding, OP has added a lot of bias into her interpretation of the events. After watching the videos, my first thought was, "Wait, this is what the big fuss was all about?" That 'burnout' clearly wasn't done for shits and giggles, and that 'whipping the car around' was a couple tiny skids on gravel. A lawyer would never touch a loser case like this.

Considering that OP wrecked the car in the first place, she should be more concerned about her own treatment of the vehicle than the techs, who only seem to be doing their job.

[–]Ignaminatus 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

You might post this over at /r/justrolledintotheshop

Bunch of shop techs who can give their opinion on the "diagnostic methods" used

[–]zeporscheguy2014 Fusion Titanium AWD, 2012 Porsche 991 Carrera 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't see what you are making a big deal over. Their methods might be unorthodox, but there was no damage done here. If you feel the dealership provided a poor service experience (which I can see and appreciate your position) then take your business elsewhere. Nothing here to involve a lawyer over, unless you ate looking for a frivolous lawsuit.

[–]skirmmish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

:FACEPALM:

OP you're an idiot...

Videos don't depict anything close to burnouts or skidding, perhaps my description of a burnout is different than yours, however the videos showed techs checking to make sure both tires were spinning, not doing a burnout. Get over your self and leave TC on next time when you cant manage to pull out of your drive way.

A Fiesta my be a good alternative for you.

[–]Ender12122014 VW CC 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to ask yourself what you actually expect or want out of this? At most I see you getting some new tires and maybe a few free alignments. Is that really worth it? I'd find a better dealer to use for service.

[–]Zniped87 MR2 01 Celica GT 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahaha oh fuck can you write a story

[–]FastAndFeels 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just don't ever get a car worked on by a dealership. Warranty or not. My wife's 2012 GT had a clear problem with drivability that would literally stop the car on the highway.

The dealer blamed it on her stereo head unit integration and said there were no codes. I took it to my local tuner, who also is a high school friend of my wife's. I just gave him the keys and said, keep it until you figure it out, drive it until you see the problem. This is the same dealer that couldn't figure out what kind of oil I would need in a GT500.

He did, drove the car for almost 300 miles, experienced the problem, had a logger on the car and found/fixed the problem.Yes, the problem was in warranty and I paid to have it fixed, but I'd rather pay someone who cares $1400 than put my wife's life in the hands of a dealership mechanic and his crew.

This is just par-for-the-course; I was f**ked pretty hard by Acura dealerships when I first got my NSX. However, I found an independent shop that specialized in the car (had six in the shop), and started a good working relationship with the owner. My car was never better than when I worked with them.

[–]realister2015 Ford Focus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rofl you paid $1400 for a car under warranty are you that rich or just that stupid?

[–]FastAndFeels 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently I am that rich, thanks.

[–]realister2015 Ford Focus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are entitled rich American. That's how you sound. Techs did NOTHING WRONG. Learn to drive you clearly is clueless about rear wheel drive cars.

There is no burnout in the video. You wrecked your car yourself and trying to shift blame on others. Next time buy snow tires and learn to drive

[–]13cylinders 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is going to be on Jalopnik, you can smell it already. I don't think it'll go well for OP.

[–]Dirtydirtdirtt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am not really seeing any of the claims you are making.

Video1: Burnout Back camera view: Though I may not really approve of their methods, you can hear them clearly talking about the differential. I am not sure if they are testing it, But you can clearly see the tech checking what I assume is the suspension and watching each wheel independently. It kind of seems like they are actually trying to figure something out or check something, Maybe the reason they didn't check it on the rack was because they wanted the weight of the car on the rear end.

Video 2: Same Comment for Video 1.

Video 3- Test Drive, Part 1: They could have easily been checking the brakes I suppose as well as checking to see if it pulls in any direction. After the initial tire squeal, he doesn't abuse the car.

Video 4: Test Drive 2 : I don't see the donuts or the burnouts you are claiming happened. You drive a Mustang, Its going to be loud when you give press in the accelerator. It seems to me that this guy was probably checking the suspension. He didn't abuse the car, he gave it some gas on a bumpy dirt driveway.

I honestly feel that you are blowing this out of proportion.

I just want to clarify that I am not an Auto Tech but have worked on cars for a large portion of my life.

[–]soundnstyle -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Off topic slighty - What kind of dash cam is this?

[–]Sir_George2011 ML63 AMG & 2008 Honda Accord -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

200 miles for a diagnostic? That's bullshit.

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