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The problem lies elsewhere, mainly in what is known as feminism. It is this, I believe, that mainly explains collapsing white birthrates. For several decades, white women have been reared in an unprecedented manner: They have been encouraged to do almost anything but marry and have children. It is extremely difficult for any society to make its young women unattractive to its own young men, but the West now appears close to succeeding (an achievement attributable, no doubt, to our high IQs).

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Feminism has encouraged the erosion of traditional Christian and European standards of conduct and has replaced them with a polygamous mating pattern in which women compete for the most attractive men. This is something we see in primate packs, but even among humans, polygamous societies are nothing new, and a great deal is known about how they operate. It so happens that the most polygamous part of the world is West Africa, the ancestral homeland of America’s own black population. A look at these societies may shed light on what is happening in the West today under the influence of “women’s liberation.”

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This is not a universal human pattern. On average, Africans appear to make the tradeoff between mating effort and parenting effort differently, with the result that sex assumes greater importance over a longer period of time. White writers of earlier days frequently noted the prominence of sex in the black man’s thoughts; when recalled now, these observations are cited with horror. In fact, early observers were reporting what they found, and what is still noted by professional anthropologists today.

As monogamy decays in the West, our mating system increasingly comes to resemble the more competitive African model, and with similar results. Young women devote more effort to maximizing their allure in order to snag high-status men, and men compete for status in order to attract these women. This comes at the expense of childrearing and family life.

At the same time, the feminist program of cajoling women into the workplace means they become self-supporting, as are the female farmers of West Africa. The Dilbert world of work cubicles may not resemble the farming plots of Africa, but both stand in marked contrast to the male-breadwinner tradition of the West, in which childrearing was a woman’s most important duty. Indeed, the modern workplace, optimized for risk-free, repetitious, sedentary work is probably the best environment for eliminating women’s economic dependence upon men. By the same token, it discourages the moderately large families of well-brought-up children that are the indispensable preconditions of Western Civilization. If enough women fail or refuse to marry and become mothers of such families, our way of life cannot be sustained.

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The most important effect of economic autonomy upon women is that it reduces the benefits to them of monogamous marriage. They can mate as they please, in competition for the most attractive men. That is what the college “hook-up” scene is really about — it is not callous men preying upon wide-eyed virgins. Later, women use affluent men for their resources (either not marrying or marrying and then divorcing them). In any case, economic independence means they do not need a man in the same way previous generations of women did.

A second economic factor influencing female family behavior is easy consumer credit. Using a credit card is a little like providing for African children through fosterage. It shields young, present-oriented women from the need for frugality.

The American economy is fueled to a great extent by massive consumer debt. How much of this spending is by married men with children to support? Feminists complain that men continue to earn more than women, but they say little about which sex spends more. And, of course, the more time and effort women devote to careers and personal consumption, the less they have for the children they do manage to bear. The problem of “latchkey children,” raised by television sets and peer groups, was a predictable result of feminism.

To summarize, the contemporary West resembles traditional West African society in:

female economic self-support;
polygamous and unstable mating patterns;
absence of long-term planning;
low-investment parenting.

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Sociobiologists speak of high-investment versus high-fertility reproductive strategies, but it is clear the contemporary West does not fall into either category. We are practicing both low fertility and low parental investment. It is uncanny how many of the “progressive” causes being pushed among us involve thwarting procreation: female careerism, unrestricted abortion, so-called safe sex, and special political protections for homosexuality. A society that makes these things its priorities can only have a death wish.

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In contrast to European nationalists, American race realists have not yet had political success. When we do gain influence, we will have many more important things to worry about than mixed-race marriages or men who seek Venezuelan brides: things such as how to dismantle 50 years of “civil rights” legislation, the repatriation of millions of aliens, and ending anti-white indoctrination in our schools.

Many racially conscious whites worry about the absence of women in our ranks, but I believe they have it backwards. We do not need women on our side to succeed politically; we need to succeed politically to have women on our side. As soon as we start winning, the ladies will find our arguments plausible, our faces handsome, and our jokes witty. Direct political action by women is not part of the European tradition; respect for the vital female role in the family is. When we have done our work, they will gladly do theirs: bear our race’s children.

F. Roger Devlin, American Renaissance 20 Comments [7/12/2015 5:11:32 PM]
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Ivurm

Have you ever actually meet a women? Or a black man?

7/12/2015 5:19:47 PM

Psycho Tits

Devlin is over-simplifying the relationships between men and women in service to an overtly racist ideology. It's unlikely that he'll win any battles soon, and even more unlikely that women will jump at the chance to be treated as broodmares regardless of whether the person doing the treatment is a successful politician.

The fact he posted this at a site with "Renaissance" in the title reminds me that, to some, freedom is slavery.

7/12/2015 5:38:57 PM

Kanna

Roger, you can't substitute random thoughts and pretend they are a sociological study. You are looking for a reason that women are not attracted to you, and any excuse will do. Nope. Try looking in a mirror and reading your words again. Deal with women as intelligent adults, not potential brood mares.

7/12/2015 7:39:05 PM

Yuu

For a second I thought this was Return of Kings again, but it was a Reactionary White Nationalist type.

Oh wait, those are the same exact thing, just inhabiting different websites.

7/12/2015 7:44:57 PM

Prager

Why do I get the feeling that a certain “someone" is feeling inadequate.

7/12/2015 10:17:37 PM

Insult to Rocks

Please, tell me more about how employing more people is hurting the economy.

7/12/2015 11:04:56 PM

Hasan Prishtina

Strange, then, that birthrates have fallen among non-whites and even the most patriarchal of societies. And you certainly don't need women to succeed politically, because the question of your political success is never going to arise.

7/13/2015 2:39:57 AM

Mister Spak



7/13/2015 3:52:38 AM

Anon-e-moose

That's an awful lot to simply say 'I don't want the Confederate Flag put in a museum! WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!'

...meanwhile, a Muslim couple & their daughter at the celebrations down The Mall, for Queen Elizabeth II's Diamond Jubilee a few years ago, I refer you to the particular design on the woman's Hijab:



In Soviet Britain, culture assimilates you.

Enjoy your paradox, Roger(ed). In more ways than one.

7/13/2015 5:17:27 AM

Swede

For decades, white women have been reared in an unprecedented manner: they are reared the same way as white men. Teh HORROR!!!
Frankly, I don’t care what skin-tone is predominant in the future.

Political action by women IS part of the European tradition, silly. The suffragette movement is over 100 years old.

It's clear that you don't know any women in real life, Roggie. You seem to think that we are all mindless drones, programmed to find these high-status men you speak about. Women are all individuals, with individual hopes, dreams and interests, and few of us think in this cold “high-status” way. Besides, a woman who chooses not to have children is questioned and disputed about her choice; it's not as socially acceptable as you think. A woman who has a husband/fiancée/steady boyfriend, is asked, time and time again, “so, when are you going to have a baby?”.

The reason you don’t get any women is because you don’t see them as human beings.

7/13/2015 5:32:24 AM

Doubting Thomas

I smell trifecta.

7/13/2015 7:05:32 AM

Azereaux

Ok, so let me get this straight: this 'women competing over high-status men' thing is a bad thing and a sign of the degradation of the country. Therefore, we must feed into the system, play into it and institutionalize it FURTHER in an effort to make things right?

You're the kind of person that tries to stop a flood with a fire hose, aren't you?

"F" Roger Devlin indeed. F him without lube.

7/13/2015 8:26:39 AM

Musicalbookworm

tl;dr Pseudointellectual racist and sexist poppycock. I give this a 9 of 10 on the crazymeter.

7/13/2015 8:35:55 AM

Reynardine

At seven billion and counting, the last thing we need is women forced into childbirth.

7/13/2015 9:03:46 AM

The Crimson Ghost

Actually, you DO need women in your ranks to succeed politically. Just ask any idiot republican candidate how he's faring with the chick vote. The numbers would be enough to make him weep, once someone explained what all those weird thingies called numbers meant. We all know that math is hard for the right wing.

The ladies find absolutely nothing about you plausible, handsome or witty. In fact, they find you outlandish, ugly & your jokes lame & unfunny. You can trust me on this, F. Roger. And there is no argument, plausible or not, that will change my mind to start popping out the little white kiddies.

Side note-American Renaissance is listed as a hate group by the SPLC.

7/13/2015 11:00:40 AM

nazani14

Feminism arose as a reaction to discriminatory religious and capitalist traditions. Women aren't being cajoled into any workplace, they go because they don't want to starve.

7/13/2015 11:04:43 AM



Guys who couldn't get a woman to have anything to do with them used to use the "I'm too nice. Women only want guys who mistreat them" excuse. I guess this is the new version--trying to sound all sciency about "reproduction strategy" and "mating".

It's still bullshit. Stop shifting blame. Work on yourself. Go to the gym. Do something besides gaming and commiserating with your fellow neckbeards so you have something interesting to talk about to a woman. At least pretend when you're talking to one that you think she has a brain equal to yours and you don't expect her to be subordinate to you. Don't be creepy. Okay, those last two are probably asking too much.....

7/13/2015 4:02:01 PM

Goomy pls

That this view is semi-mainstream at all is semi-unsettling.

7/13/2015 11:22:46 PM

Ebon

Misogynistic and racist, an economical package of hate.

7/14/2015 3:07:46 PM

TimeToTurn

You bring up West Africa, but I'd love the see the Dahomey Amazons kick your ass as they numerous men for centuries.

Feminists complain that men continue to earn more than women, but they say little about which sex spends more

Since is based on stereotypes, you're aware there are stereotypes out there about women dropping hundreds of dollars on needless shopping sprees and in general shopping too much, right?

Direct political action by women is not part of the European tradition; respect for the vital female role in the family is

Which is why feminism never existed and never was a major movement spanning three centuries, right?

We do not need women on our side to succeed politically

Good luck banning women from voting, because that's the only way you'll be getting your agenda through minus a dictatorship.

8/20/2015 3:00:26 PM
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