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[–]Extradaemon"We don't need 'PR' because we are the 'P'" 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm so confused, what happened?

[–]Stolles☾ Social Justice Werewolf ☽ 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

From another users post here

A game Dev can out in support of gg but didn't use his (I think, they could have been a lady but I don't remember) real name, OP used the same investigating skills 4chan and the like use to gather personal information and made a huge post containing the devs real name, cv and stuff like that.

A bunch of ghazi peeps said that it was uncool and he was acting like gg.

An reddit admin stepped in and deleted the post as it was basically a doxx. Kia is celebrating because he was a mod not just a random user who wrote did this.

[–]Extradaemon"We don't need 'PR' because we are the 'P'" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks mate, big shame that happened.

[–]oizown 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it is any consolation, GG painted all of you as horrible people way before this. The amount of vitriol is ridiculous on both sides, but for me personally (a KiA subscriber), I don't wish harm on anyone. There are plenty of KiA people who have done worse, who continue to do worse, and not give a shit. The fact that you apparently do makes you many notches higher in my book, so I just want you to know that while we might not agree on things, not all of us wish you harm or want to use your personal moments as tools for justifying arguments against everyone here, and I believe anyone who wants to do so can be considered guilty of worse than anything you may have done.

[–]Enleat+1;dr 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one here is angry at you Lifestyled. Everyone on this subreddit appreciates and loves you dearly for everything you have done, and you have not ruined anything. We all makes mistakes, and you don't have to beat yourself up so much over this

We all love you, come back <3

[–]IndifferentOstrichI WILL NOT STOP UNTIL ALL GAMES ARE ABOUT PMS 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You actually don't have to leave<3

[–]OctavianXXV☭☭Cultural Marxist☭☭ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the main-difference is that you actually know when you fucked up. No silly excuses. So my respect. And while i think you did indeed fuck up, leaving this sub might be a bit much. Learn from your mistake and be more vigilant about shit like this.

[–]GGDisposableProven Leftoid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't worry about it. We all fuck up from time to time. The fact that you're willing to listen and acknowledge your mistakes says more about you than your mistakes ever will. GamerGate will exploit this just like they're exploiting the AM hacks right now because that's what they do. You don't hurt the case against them because they're being judged for what they do, not what you do.

Maybe take a break for a while and clear your head. Don't make a decision on leaving and until you've had time to reflect on all of this. Time changes the way you feel about things. :)

[–]LordSepulchrave 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

No-one wants you to leave.

I'm the person who criticized you the hardest, so let me come out now and say this: I never, ever had an issue with you personally. I disagreed with what you posted, but I did not hate you, or any other mods here, and I never wanted you to fuck off. I want you to stick around and carry on being the supportive, productive member of the community you are. You've made a bunch of awesome posts that I upvoted the hell out of, so please don't ever think this was some personal thing.

It sucks you're going through some rough shit, but there are people here who can support you if you reach out to them. If you ever need to vent, offload some shit or just want a general chat, PM me whenever you like. I still respect you and want to make sure you're ok.

Shit can get heated every now and then, but don't let that cut you off from people who want to look out for you.

[–]ThehoennhippoCartoon watching virgin-ass motherfucker 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

What happened? Haven't been active on Ghazi for a couple of days.

[–]ohhhhhhfuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

A game Dev can out in support of gg but didn't use his (I think, they could have been a lady but I don't remember) real name, OP used the same investigating skills 4chan and the like use to gather personal information and made a huge post containing the devs real name, cv and stuff like that.

A bunch of ghazi peeps said that it was uncool and he was acting like gg.

An reddit admin stepped in and deleted the post as it was basically a doxx. Kia is celebrating because he was a mod not just a random user who wrote did this.

[–]ThehoennhippoCartoon watching virgin-ass motherfucker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the info.

[–]ArchchancellorSocial Justice Wario 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Based on the SRD thread, didn't OP delete the thread? In the end, the thread got deleted, but I don't think admins were a part of it.

[–]ohhhhhhfuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

There were two threads, the admins deleted the first one and the link to the archive that was in the KiA thread.

OP then posted it again in a second thread with the names removed and was then called out by ghazi peeps so OP deleted it and then posted this one.

Edit: in the first link of the SRD post he says (right at the bottom)

The admins deleted my other post, stating it contains too much Personal Information because full names were visible.

[–]ArchchancellorSocial Justice Wario 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, I'm caught up, now. Thanks.

[–]KarateSquidsGators, Please 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

squidhugs

(edit - they're nicer than they sound, and only there if you want them!)

[–]casersatzBASED SHILL 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My girlfriend is a squid. I can vouch for their amazing healing powers!

[–]GGDisposableProven Leftoid 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do they turn into kid hugs? And then back into squid hugs again?

[–]sionava☥Social Justice Avatar☥ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a squid hug! It's a kid hug! It's a squi--

ARGHGETITOUT >.<

[–]KarateSquidsGators, Please 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

splats you

slinks away really fast

:)

[–]The_69_EyesYore honors, case closed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awww Mod-bro! I never saw what you did so won't comment, but I don't think you have to leave, your input and insight here is fantastic!

I don't want you to leave, but if you feel you must then I'll bid you a fond farewell!

[–]jakezorzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkaozXsKrcs 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have no idea what happened, but I think you do a great job as a mod and you always come off as a pleasant person, FWIW.

[–]JF_Manatane 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take a break, get away from this mess. When you see how much fucked up are things over the web for a while now, you can be sure that even the person with the best intents would take a toll of some sort. Come back in a few days but don't left the ghazi community! You did a mistake, yes, but you'rer not branded for that by us. But if you go for awhile, please come back.

[–]koronicusSocial Justice Platypus 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it's fair to beat yourself up over this. It's not your fault that there are people who will jump at any opportunity to discredit anyone who criticizes them. Someone was misleading GG, and you tried to point that out. I never saw the first thread, but the second one seemed entirely reasonable. The subreddit definitely isn't ruined, and you're fine in my book. Good people, even.

[–]CromulexPolitics do not matter. Only Ethics. 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand fully what happened but we all make mistakes. Take a break and hopefully see you back around here too. You generate the bulk of oc around here.

[–]blahblahwordvomitRed MS Paint Arrows 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think maybe taking a break isn't the worst idea.

I don't think you should consider yourself shunned forever and ever.

[–]Stolles☾ Social Justice Werewolf ☽ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The difference here is you acknowledged your mistake and owned up to it, you don't have to leave. I don't think anyone here wants you to leave. A lot of people will turn a blind eye or try to argue till they're blue in the face to defend themselves, you realized what you did which is more than I can say for a lot of people out there.

Gators might try to use this against you but just know that you did all you could, gators will bring up issues from the dead to argue their points, they're not looking for anything other than spite, hate and to be right all the time. There is no convincing those kinds of people so please don't let that affect you.

[–]suberb_lobsterNarrative Narrative Narrative Narrative Narrative Narrative 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

lifestyled, I think you've done a fine job as a mod thus far. I've read your occasional posts about weird goings on in GG their attempts to mislead supporters. Exposing blatant lies and fraud is good. But this time you went digging too deep and came up with too much and at the same time too little. The info was sketchy, you posted too much data and the whole thing came off as cyberstalking. Even if this is a case of one guy pretending to be three separate devs, only the gullible are going to be impressed by some no-accounts supporting GG anyway. It doesn't matter. You should have consulted the other mods before putting that post up. They would have probably advised you not to do it.

[–]jean-sol_partre -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

If what you did really was doxxing, I don't think Ghazelles are the one you ought to apologize to.

You didn't ruin this sub. People here won't hate you. Gamergate is slowly waning into irrelevancy which it should never have left. They were already painting Ghazi as a circle of hell anyway and most of us don't care.

However I think that taking a break -not a final departure, just less emotional investment- is a good idea. It is not healthy at all to focus most of your life on this sorry piece of internet drama, especially when you're not one of the primary targets of harassment (that is, the LWs). Please do not forget that this very vocal mob consists of only a few hundreds cowards out of seven billion people.

[–]MissepusHorkheimer's Cat -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

The subreddit is fine. The decision of whether or not you should leave as a mod should be up to the other mods and you, in conversation. Don't believe you can single-handedly ruin it for everybody here. You have done more good than bad, and while KiA may rejoice, they aren't a measure for ethics I want to hold anybody up against.

Also, it may be good for all of us to remember that we aren't perfect, even if we may feel a bit morally superior from time to time.

When that is said: you have retired from Ghazi before, to deal with the stuff you experienced while working as a mod here. It might be a good idea to do so again, to regain some perspective. So go for a walk, make some pancakes, go to the library and find a book with pictures of cats, paint a really bad picture, repair your bike. Or the neighbour's bike. Water some flowers. When all of that is done, clean your room from ceiling to floor. Cleaning is always the right thing to do.

Then look around at your clean room that smells of pancakes, and think... "perhaps I should go say hello to my friends in 'ghazi. They may be talking about something else by now."

And the chance is very high that we will.

hugs for you, Lifestyled.

[–]foxesforsale☠Skeleton Justice Warrior☠ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Take a break, lifestyled. Yeah you fucked up, but you're owning it and apologising. Stepping down as a mod is a good step, but I think you need to try take a week without Ghazi, without reddit if possible, and let your mind take a break before you come back. And when you do come back, you'll be welcome. You're still a valuable member of our little community.

[–]Haz901"I'm not a conspiracy nut, it's Occam's razor" 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You fuck up, you get told off, you learn and when you think you've learnt it all, you fuck up again. That's the perpetual circle of life.

Hell, look at me, telling people own their fuckups and learn from them, I'm usually the one fucking up. I've sworn myself never to speak to certain people again, because I fucked up so bad. I'd never bother them again. But then, a week, two weeks a month or two years later even, they reached out to me.

Sometimes, no matter how much you think you've fucked up, how much you think other people hate you, everything can be normal again, as long as you remember to learn from your fuckups. And remember, everyone else is human as well, on a long enough timeline, the probability of anyone fucking up becomes one.

[–]SRSthrowaway524Kotaku shill check= $221 a month 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait what? I, like most people, have no idea what this is in reference to. Either way, people make mistakes and you can always take time off when your mind is in a better place.

[–]MrTomFTWZoe Quinn Ate My Hamster -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

What now with the who now?

[–]ochayethenooooooo 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

A post that was arguably doxxing, but moreover it was a post that's exactly the kind of "digging" that gamergate do. Personally, I found it distasteful apparently a lot of other sub users were a lot more vehement about their distaste.

[–]garbagefiredotcom 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

xoxoxoxoxoxo everyone fucks up man take it easy.

but definitely definitely definitely also find another hobby or community or something maybe IRL.

too much of this shit just eats you up, we're just amateurs who have a hobby of amateurishly studding borderline criminal mob behaviour; it's not a hobby that makes anyone a better person.

well.. maybe a little bit is ok, but it is like starring lovingly into the abyss; it's pretty weird.

We really do find the very worst pieces of shit and then immerse ourselves in what they do as though their shitty culture is everywhere. it messes anyone up.

[–]sionava☥Social Justice Avatar☥ -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't crucify yourself, lifestyled. People make mistakes, and the good ones recognise it when it happens and try to do something about it. I can fully understand and respect someone who's in a moderator position like yourself wanting to step down, but you don't have to go into exile or anything. :)

Take a breather. It'll be ok.

[–]casersatzBASED SHILL -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry to see you go. I have always respected your work here.

Next "Gamergate" (and ugh, there will be one...) we'll all be able to start fresh, having learned from our experiences here on how we can all be the best allies possible. I hope you're a part of it when that time comes.