Black Lives Matter Activists Daunasia Yancey and Julius Jones

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Black Lives Matter members Daunasia Yancey and Julius Jones discuss their use of disruptive tactics as a means of sparking a fruitful discussion about race issues in the U.S. (5:23)

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>> Larry: WELCOME BACK.

AS YOU SAW EARLIER IN THE SHOW,MEMBERS OF THE BLACK LIVES

MATTER MOVEMENT CONFRONTEDHILLARY CLINTON BACKSTAGE IN

NEW HAMPSHIRE LAST WEEK.

JOINING ME NOW ARE TWO OF THEPEOPLE YOU SEE IN THAT VIDEO.

SO PLEASE WELCOME TO THE SHOWDAUNASIA YANCEY AND JULIUS

JONES.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

HEY.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

THANK YOU, HAVE A SEAT.

THAT'S RESPONSIVE.

SO FINALLY, WE GOT BLACK LIVESMATTER ON THE SHOW.

(LAUGHTER)

I NEED TO ASK YOU GUYS, SOPEOPLE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT

YOUR METHODS OF DISRUPTION.

THAT'S THE WORD THAT'S BEINGUSED OUT THERE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW, WHY DO YOUTHINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO MAKE

WHITE PEOPLE FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> WELL, THE -- WHEN WE'RETALKING ABOUT RACE IN THIS

COUNTRY --

>> Larry: THAT'S WHAT THEYMEAN BY DISRUPTION.

(LAUGHTER)

>> RIGHT, RIGHT.

(APPLAUSE)

>> YEAH.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RACE INTHIS COUNTRY, THAT'S OFTEN WHAT

HAPPENS, RIGHT?

IS PEOPLE GET UNCOMFORTABLE.

WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TOPURSUE THAT DISCOMFORT TO REALLY

GET TO THE ROOT ISSUES AND TOGET TO THE ROOT SOLUTION.

>> Larry: RIGHT.

AND WHITE PEOPLE HEAR ROOTS,THEY ALREADY GET --

(LAUGHTER)

--ALREADY CAUSING PROBLEMS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS FOLLOWTHE NEWS BUT THIS THERE'S NICE

OLD WHITE GENTLEMAN WHO WASGOING TO MAKE A LITTLE SPEECH

AND COUPLE OF BLACK LADIESTHOUGHT THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN.

>> MM-HMM, MM-HMM.

>> Larry: AND THERE WAS A LOT OFFLACK BECAUSE OF THAT ON BOTH

SIDES.

SO WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH BLACKLIVES MATTER MOVEMENT AND THE

PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT?

BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULDBE A NATURAL ALLY.

>> MM.

>> Larry: BUT A LOT OF PEOPLETHOUGHT, WHAT'S GOING ON?

WHY ARE THEY TWEAKING THEPROGRESSIVE PART OF THE PARTY?

DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT?

>> AS FAR AS THAT -- SOMETIMESIN YOUR FRIENDSHIPS, PEOPLE ARE

TRYING TO FORM -- YOU KNOW, YOUAND YOUR FRIEND CAN BE REALLY

HONEST WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT?

AND YOU CAN SAY, I LIKE YOU, ILOVE YOU, BUT I THINK YOU'RE

ACTING UP, RIGHT?

BUT IN THIS CASE, WITH BERNIESANDERS, WITH ALL THE OTHER

DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES, RIGHT?

THEY ARE NOT SHOWING UP FORBLACK LIVES, EVEN -- THE

MOVEMENT IS HAPPENING.

IT'S LIVE.

IT'S REAL.

IT'S LIKE WE ARE PUSHING THENEEDLE.

AND FOLKS ARE NOT SHOWING UP INREAL ENOUGH WAYS.

BECAUSE BERNIE SANDERS, FORAS MUCH AS HE WAS WALKING WITH

MLK, HE AIN'T WALKING THAT WALKNOW.

(APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: AND AS FAR AS YOU'RECONCERNED, EVEN IF SOMEONE IS AN

ALLY, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURETHEY'RE OUR CURRENT ALLY, IS

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT,RIGHT?

>> ACCOUNTABILITY.>> ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> Larry: I HEARD SOMEBODY CLAPABOUT THAT, WHICH IS GREAT.

(LAUGHTER)

WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE INTHE NEXT ELECTION?

ARE YOU JUST LOOKING FOR ALLIESOUT THERE?

IS IT LEGISLATION?

LET'S IMAGINE 18 MONTHS FROMNOW.

IT'S THE INAUGURAL ADDRESS.

PRESIDENT HUCKABEE IS GIVING ASPEECH.

(LAUGHTER)

[ AUDIENCE BOOs ]

OKAY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GIVING ASPEECH.

[BOOING CONTINUES]

AND HE SAYS, ALSO FOR BLACKPEOPLE, WE'RE GOING TO -- WHAT

DO YOU WANT TO HEAR?

>> I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BEADDED TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF

PRESIDENT LIKE ECONOMICUNDERSTANDING, FOREIGN POLICY

UNDERSTANDING.

NEEDS TO BE ADDED RACIALANALYSIS.

WE LIVE IN A PLURALISTICSOCIETY.

WE'RE ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE.

THESE FOLKS, WHEN THEY'RECONFRONTED WITH BLACK LIVES

MATTER, ALL THEY CAN SAY IS ALLLIVES MATTER.

WHICH ON ITS FACE IT SEEMS LIKEA VERY VALID RESPONSE, RIGHT?

BUT ACTUALLY, IT'S A VIOLENTRESPONSE BECAUSE THE ONLY TIME

YOU HEAR IT IS IN RESPONSE WHENSOMEONE SAYS BLACK LIVES MATTER.

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> Larry: GET YOUR OWN SLOGAN.

>> YEAH.

>> Larry: OKAY.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

WHERE DO YOU SEE -- NOW, WE HAVEA BLACK PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S A VERY HISTORIC COUPLE OFELECTIONS.

WHERE DO YOU HOLD OBAMAACCOUNTABLE IN ALL THIS?

DO YOU HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE?

ARE YOU HOLDING HIS FEET TO THEFIRE IN THIS?

DO YOU THINK THERE'S EXTRARESPONSIBILITY FOR HIM?

>> I THINK RIGHT NOW THE FOCUSOF THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE,

RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY, OBAMA ISACCOUNTABLE.

NO PRESIDENT OF THE UNITEDSTATES HAS EVER STOOD UP FOR

BLACK LIVES IN A SIGNIFICANT ANDREAL EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND HE'S NO DIFFERENT TO BEQUITE HONEST.

>> Larry: DO YOU THINK HIS BLACKSIDE IS MORE ACCOUNTABLE THAN

HIS WHITE SIDE?

(LAUGHTER)

>> YOU REMEMBER WHEN THEREVEREND JEREMIAH WRIGHT STUFF

WENT DOWN.

>> Larry: DO I REMEMBER?

(LAUGHTER)

ABSOLUTELY.

>> SO AFTER THAT, HE GAVE THISLIKE REALLY IMPASSIONED SPEECH

WHERE HE SHOWED EXACTLY HOWNUANCE AND UNDERSTANDING OF RACE

WAS, AND THEN IT WENT AWAY.

>> Larry: YEAH.

HE PUT IT LIKE IN THAT LASTSCENE IN THE "RAIDERS OF THE

LAST ARC."

HE JUST HID IT AWAY, BACK I THATVAULT.

AND BROUGHT IT UP NOW BECAUSEOBAMA DON'T GIVE A [ BLEEP ].

(LAUGHTER)

ONE LAST QUESTION.

DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS -- ANDPLEASE SAY YES -- DO YOU HAVE

ANY PLANS TO DISRUPT TRUMP'SCAMP --

(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)

>> ALL OF THE PRESIDENTIALCANDIDATES -- YES.

(LAUGHTER)

>> Larry: WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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