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[–]BoomBoomGun 91 points92 points  (4 children)

Stacy Layne Matthews' commented on her post.

I suffer from depression myself and before I experienced it first hand I had no idea the struggle people went through. I have thought about killing myself many times. does it make me a coward? I think it makes people like us very brave for having to go through it. some just are not as strong as others and unfortunately some don't make it out. Does that make them cowards? FUCK NO!!!!!!!! K?

[–]BroadwayIcunt 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Yas Henny! Show them Bitches Henny

[–]nonailsnodragI love all of you, but I love myself a lot more 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Henny knows best!

[–]thisisntmyhair 43 points44 points  (5 children)

perfect way to say it not attacking just teaching the uneducated

[–]softcoregaymerHieeee, Miss Daisy! Hieee! You wanna take a ride? 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Those two emojis at the end made me laugh so hard. She knows and I live!xD

[–]Oleg15 6 points7 points  (5 children)

What do the elephant and umbrella mean?

[–]Wallace_GroverDon't like MESS. Don't like DRAMA. LIVE for the BULLSHIT. 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Someone called her a shady elephant on the show.

[–]nota999Jinkx + Max 4 evah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bianca, I believe.

[–]lilmonstahmAt least I am a showgirl, BITCH! 6 points7 points  (1 child)

shady elephant?

[–]Fallensoul05I never wanna meet you, i hate you..skinny bitch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was the animal runway where shes dressed as an elephant.

[–]thatshortcake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For all I know it coukd mean an ancient dildo

[–]JOHNOTHEYDIDNTLook who went to Devry! 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Shes so eloguent.

[–]craftybastI'm here to make best buddies, bitch! 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I never noticed before that her facebook username is StuntQueen. Amazing.

[–]milkcaramelshe's a man with one eye! 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I don't know that Tyra will ever see that her views are ignorant and hurtful, but I'm glad the other queens are trying to educate her anyway.

[–]nonailsnodragI love all of you, but I love myself a lot more 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For some reason reading the title my brain died and I thought Darienne was on the Tyra show. I think my brain might be trying to block all this Trya mess out at this point lol

[–]givemeunbeso 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Love her

[–]Sharon_Needle -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

Love yourself first

[–]givemeunbeso 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I do, otherwise how could I love somebody else?

[–]lolmkaybooafter a long night of hookin' 1 point2 points  (0 children)

RuPaul approves this message.

[–]agentsometimeWorst day of my life. Someone bring me a puppy, I wanna die. 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ms. Shady Elephant

[–]disastersoundtrack#colormatchyourbutthole 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta love Darienne, that's a very tasteful reaction.

[–]Doitontherunway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jumping from a burning building is technically not a suicide though since you're actually escaping from an immediate danger. There's still a chance to survive if you manage to land on something soft.

If suicide is a cowardly move, what do you call people who are afraid of dying? Is everyone a coward now?

[–]ModernthoughtPLEASE DAWN ITS CHRISTMAS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Someone get Darienne OFF Tyra before she suffocates.

[–]Joshuastyle 3 points4 points  (9 children)

I think being a New York queen Darienne touched on a very important subject. During 9/11 there were many people who jumped from the burning towers. It wasn't a matter of being a coward there was nothing else they could do. Tyra is being willfully ignorant.

[–]UpInRusWigs#TeamMKD 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Darienne's a New York STATE Queen. Rochester is over 5 hours away from NYC. She was just using at as a metaphor, nothing about 9/11. The burning building will kill you or you jumping will kill you, but the burning building is going to hurt a lot more than jumping. She's likening the burning building to being locked inside your extremely depressed mind and jumping is the lesser of two evils.

[–]ifrit1100 -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

Tyra said people who jumped out of the burning towers are cowards? I would say this is a different issue - you jump because you know you'll burn alive for sure so this is the only option you have for a hopefully less painful death or for the small chance of survival from the fall.

It's like if someone said shoot yourself or I'll shoot your mother. A slightly different issue than the one Tyra is talking about I think.

[–]Joshuastyle 3 points4 points  (1 child)

She said she had no sympathy for people who take their own lives. She didn't specify how or why she just said people who commit suicide. Even if she suddenly explains that she only meant people dealing with emotional trauma, it still is an awfully ignorant thing to say.

[–]ifrit1100 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

She didn't specify how or why she just said people who commit suicide.

She also said there are support groups. Do you think people who jumped out of the burning towers need the same support groups? NO! It's a different issue entirely and let's be honest, we know which kind of suicide she is talking about.

Even if she suddenly explains that she only meant people dealing with emotional trauma, it still is an awfully ignorant thing to say.

Yeah I agree but it's important not to use a "straw man" here and say "omg tyra thinks 9/11 people who jumped out of the burning towers are cowards!". Let's be real.

[–]jv1503thick thighs make the dicks rise 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I get that people are pissed at Tyra, but is this going to to turn into all the Queens and their followers vs Tyra? At this point, the amount of hate being spewed towards Tyra is just as bad as what Tyra is spewing. No one is winning and all parties should just stop.

[–]preposeyTired Sandwich's #1 fan 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I think the queens are trying to make sure their fan bases know what Tyra did was wrong and they shouldn't emulate it. The show skews a very young fan base these days and kids look up to these girls as role models because they're strong queer men who have faced the adversity they're currently facing.

[–]jv1503thick thighs make the dicks rise -1 points0 points  (2 children)

I understand that. But it just adds more fuel to the fire. It's giving the fans out there an excuse to hate Tyra even more.

[–]Kalastrielle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's a difference in publically speaking out about mh issues and hate though. I haven't seen any "oh what a fucking bitch" from the queens, just explanations of why Tyra is wrong.

It's important too that their followers see these queens have had issues with mental health and/or generally support them, rather than isolating them. It helps lessen the stigma around mental health issues. And so, so many lgbt people struggle with mh issues.

[–]Kalastrielle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And as for the fans hating Tyra - she's given them more than enough rope to hang her. She's entitled to say what she thinks, but not to support. If their explanations and experiences help her see she was wrong, then the kerfuffle will die down.

Right now though I think that's unlikely, sadly.

[–]SLMLQFBSNC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes Darienne! Well said.

[–]thedragdoctori am only verse when wigs are involved 1 point2 points  (0 children)

miss darienne makes some good points...kudos to my fave pachyderm and a drag hug!

[–]irishcyke -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

While i do not agree with the way Tyra has handled herself these last two days...i'm just really struggling with why so many people seem to actually care so much about what she said?

[–]Kalastrielle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because lots of the lgbt community suffer from mh issues. For Tyra to say suicide is cowardly only increases the stigma around it, and makes people suffering with suicidal ideation more isolated. The queens speaking out about their own issues and views is good to see.