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    [–]DominizZzle 130ポイント131ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Mj�llnir

    You alright, man?

    [–]Bteatesthighlander1 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

    I think he was trying the fancy o

    [–]DominizZzle 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Ø

    [–]Sqeaky 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Now I think we know who wins the fight:

    Unicode Vs IIIIIIIIIIlIl

    http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html

    [–]SurgeonOfDeat 77ポイント78ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.

    Oh come on -__-.

    If this isn't the greatest PIS that's ever happened in comics since 'Spider-man vs Firelord'. I don't know what is.

    [–]IHaveaMountainLion 32ポイント33ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Spider-man vs Firelord

    I remember this story. I have to disagree with you. However, I have an explanation, it seems.

    First, it wasn't really just Spider-man who beat Firelord that one time. Notice the costume he's wearing. That is not just a black version of cloth, that's the GODDAMN symbiote that he has on. That fight happened before he knew what the symbiote was.

    Now, normal Spider-man is pretty stronk, fast, and hard as hell to hit. However, THAT Spider-man was enhanced by the symbiote. Consider how powerful Flash Thompson is now that he is Venom. Thompson doesn't have super human strength, speed, or reflexes and yet he goes toe to toe with some of the strongest. If a symbiote can take a paraplegic and turn them into a super hero, imagine what it should be able to do for someone who can already lift 10 to 15 TONS

    Even without the symbiote, Peter Parker can lift somewhere between 20 to 30 THOUSAND POUNDS, has a reaction time that is over 16 times faster than the average human, has perfect balance, and he heals quick. Now, you take someone like that and THEN enhance them with the symbiote and the possibility of him beating the shit outta Firelord becomes more believable.

    Secondly, (and this one I read in a letters section in response to a reader that couldn't accept Firelord being beaten by Spiderman) this was addressed by the writer (whose name I can't recall at the moment.) He explained that Fire lord had just made a very long journey. Also, prior to this scene, a few things had happened that took a toll on him.

    1: he dove into the Hudson River to retrieve his staff, after Spider-man through it into the river.

    2: Spider-man lured him into a building that blew up (I can't remember why...there was gas or explosives stored there)

    3: I THINK he was weak and hadn't eaten in a while (Lame, I know...) I may not be getting this exactly right but lol. It's been a very long time since I read this stuff. I'm surprised I remember it at all. Anyway, the point here, is that Firelord was tired and had been worn down PRIOR to the final fight scene.

    Third, Spider-man almost NEVER goes all out. He is constantly pulling his punches. He never wants to kill or maim. So, even though we get the impression that he doesn't hit very hard because he's often fighting street level thugs, the truth is, we never really get to see exactly how hard he can punch or how much damage he can really do.

    I realize this might seem like a lame explanation, but it IS plausible... Don't you guys think?

    Did I really need a /s/.

    -Totally not copy-pasted from somewhere lol-

    [–]Spideyjust 45ポイント46ポイント  (8子コメント)

    The symbiote didn't boost spider-man's strength, so him having the symbiote is actually a huge weakness in this fight. It's weak to fire! One of the things that is lethal to him.

    On top of that, Firelord was travelling FTL in the comic. Spider-man is way too slow to compete with that.

    On top of that, Firelord was destroying asteroids. 20'000 lbs is nothing for him.

    It's not plausible.

    [–]dassadec 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

    The symbiote didn't boost spider-man's strength

    More people need to know this, it's one of the biggest misconceptions about 616 spidey and the Symbiote.

    [–]Spideyjust 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's an incredibly widespread one. Hell, even I only confirmed it for myself recently.

    [–]dassadec 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I've been trying to preach the gospel for the last few years since I got the complete collection. The 90's cartoon etched it into a lot of people that Symbiote=buff

    [–]learc83 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Where did you read this. This is the opposite of everything I've read for the past 20 years.

    [–]dassadec 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    BAsically the Symbiote only give its host powers afterward due to it having bonded with his spider powers. For Peter it just gave him Unlimited organic webbing, minor durability enhancement, and a bad attitude.

    The only reason it seems like Symbiote spidey is stronger is because he's not holding himself back as much.

    This is all in the 616 universe

    [–]Spideyjust 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I know Eddie says it in a comic. Symbiote didn't boost peter because he'd already been mutated.

    [–]SteveRudzinski 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Where is it said the symbiote doesn't enhance Spidey's strength?

    [–]Spideyjust 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't have a scan on hand, but Brock says it to the symbiote once.

    [–]SurgeonOfDeat 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I know you're joking, but congratulations. This genuinely made me angry:

    http://www.noordinaryobsession.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/rage1.png

    [–]YungMilque999 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Even without the symbiote, Peter Parker can lift somewhere between 20 to 30 THOUSAND POUNDS, has a reaction time that is over 16 times faster than the average human, has perfect balance, and he heals quick. Now, you take someone like that and THEN enhance them with the symbiote and the possibility of him beating the shit outta Firelord becomes more believable.

    I won't comment on how valid Spidey vs. Firelord is, but Spider-Man is stronger and faster than that without the symbiote. Also the symbiote didn't give him enhanced strength (unfortunately).

    [–]DeadSeaGulls 47ポイント48ポイント  (20子コメント)

    I think most of these DBZ fans only think of hulk from the recent marvel flicks.

    [–]dassadec 30ポイント31ポイント  (16子コメント)

    I support Goku, But Goku has far far greater Combat speed and can BFR Hulk.

    Basically he can Rule 1 Hulk at any time.

    Hulk at fresh transformation strength has been KO'd plenty of time by beings just above Spider-man's tier. even in 616

    [–]sqwuralll 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    And again goku never blitzes/ends a fight from the get go

    [–]wolfpaladin 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Hulk at a fresh transformation has bitch slapped abomination, lifted cars like nothing and stopped trains.

    [–]PmYourWittyAnecdote 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Compared to Goku...

    That's absolutely nothing.

    [–]wolfpaladin 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Yeah, but he's not going to lose to fucking spiderman (discounting PIS)

    [–]PmYourWittyAnecdote 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Spiderman can do all of those things too?

    And hulk has lost to Spidey a lot of times..

    [–]wolfpaladin 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

    He also beat Superboy, Juggernaut and firelord. PIS is a thing.

    [–]PmYourWittyAnecdote 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

    He beat them once, we can discount as PIS.

    Spidey, Wolverine, Iron Man, Cap, and others have all beaten hulk.

    Regardless, Goku has about 70% the power of a galaxy buster, so I don't think Hulk really stands a chance.

    [–]wolfpaladin 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Spidey,

    PIS

    Cap

    PIS

    Iron Man,

    Link?

    Anyway, there's no fucking chance in hell that spidey could beat Hulk. He outclasses spidey in pretty much every way

    [–]berychance 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think most of these ad hominem comments that pop up in nearly every thread with a DBZ thread are bullshit.

    [–]TheGreatWolfRuss 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Just take it for the salt it is.

    [–]chakrablocker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As an impartial DC fanboy, Goku def takes Hulk every day of the week.

    [–]Zudd 18ポイント19ポイント  (12子コメント)

    I have a feeling that a full power Kamehameha could Rule 1 Hulk. Also, those feats need context. How angry was the Hulk above his base state?

    [–]dassadec 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They also need scans

    [–]jazaniac 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

    What is rule 1? I'm new here.

    [–]DanJorg 23ポイント24ポイント  (4子コメント)

    the idea is that hulk gets stronger as his rage increases. So in order to have a good chance of beating him, you hit him with a full power attack straight off the bat before he gets strong enough to overpower you.

    1 of 5 rules this sub created to defeat the hulk

    [–]Zudd 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Rule 1 means taking out the Hulk with a powerful attack before he can get angry enough to get stronger.

    [–]bthoman2 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    While Goku can certainly rule 1 the Hulk, he simply isn't going to. Goku's all about a good fight, and he's going to give the Hulk ample time to start ramping.

    [–]Zudd 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I agree. Bloodlusted Goku would end it in one hit, I feel. But regular Goku wouldn't.

    The feats still need context.

    [–]berychance 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Goku's energy projection is so far and above his physical output that even if the Hulk starts to match him physically, then a full powered Kamehameha would still likely Rule 1 him.

    [–]DanJorg 34ポイント35ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.

    well that is just pure horse shit.

    Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier

    Oh that same weapon that makes Galactus shit his pants? OK.

    [–]MrTheNoodles 31ポイント32ポイント  (6子コメント)

    And people are eating everything he posted up.

    hulk beats everyone, nobody can 1v1 hulk.

    batman easily beats superman anyway.

    Superman got his nose broken, he bleeds and has slow recovery you cannot stop the hulk and can take 100x more punishment and recover 100x faster, and is 100x stronger.

    Superman cannot beat the hulk, and your statement that superman has greater str than the hulk is nonsense, hulk have infinite power.

    He's either a very bad troll or someone who just jerks Hulk so much but doesn't even know anything about him asides from what he copies and pastes off the internet.

    [–]wolfpaladin 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Okay seriously WTF is going on? Normally it's literally the exact opposite, with people massively underestimating hulk. Did something change while I was asleep?

    [–]WhoShallNotWin 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Did something change while I was asleep?

    It involves a DBZ character, Goku, so everyone must find a way to make Goku look like shit.

    [–]Manisil 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well, Hulk is the strongest one there is

    [–]BreakRaven 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Hulk is the strongest one there is

    -Hulk

    [–]DanJorg 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    if anyone believes his shit then i'll be shocked.

    I don't read comics but surely Black Bolt is a fair bit below universe undoing levels lol?

    [–]MrTheNoodles 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    IIRC he's an implied planet buster if he decides to go all out. From what I've actually read in the comics (only like Hickman's run of the Avengers/New Avengers), he's strong but no where close to being universe busting. His attack was strong enough to destroy Thanos' armor and to make him bleed but it still wasn't planet busting.

    [–]shadowsphere 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Don't worry, neither of those things are real.

    [–]DanJorg 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He has 73 upvotes. SEVENTY THREE

    seriously people upvote any shit that looks like it took a bit of effort

    [–]shadowsphere 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ahaha "comment removed" noice

    [–]PmYourWittyAnecdote 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Holy crap, the fact this post has 77 upvotes proves there's an anti DBZ jerk.

    Everyone's gonna upvote this, without actually verifying it or understanding how much utter shit this is?

    [–]1stOnRt1 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Thats a whole bunch of crazy feats that I have never come across in the respect threads.

    I have only every seen the Human Torch one and the Black bolt one.

    Do you have scans for any of those?

    [–]chakrablocker 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No because he's lying. Remember when this sub upvote scans and logical arguments over garbage like this?

    [–]berychance 24ポイント25ポイント  (28子コメント)

    There was the Mj�llnir impact that he took to the face courtesy of Thor.

    Not close to the level of damage Goku can put out. Also, Thor is friends with Banner/Hulk, so you'd have to prove that he wasn't holding back.

    A direct and concentrated Nova blast from The Human Torch that is said to be greater in output than our nearest star.

    I'd want explicit evidence that it can output as much as the sun.

    Even if it were, that is still not as powerful as a Kamehameha.

    The Sun outputs 1026 J per second. Based on the GBE of the sun Goku's Kamehameha will be close to 1040 J.

    In other words, if this were to be done for 3 years, then it still wouldn't match the power output Goku could put out in a few seconds.

    Deflected the sub-atomic wave beam of the Gladiator (Kallark) with his bare hands, a beam so powerful that even on its lower outputs can split structures at the molecular level.

    Splitting things on a molecular level does not take that much power.

    Withstood several direct planet ending blows from Galactus, returned to normalcy and continued to pound him with greater ferocity.

    Evidence that both he did this and that the blows were planet busting.

    Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.

    That's ridiculous. If you're suggesting that he tanked a universal level attack, then bullshit because the universe was very clearly never destroyed. Black Bolt has shouted many times under a planetary level. It is heavily suggested he could destroy a planet, but you have to prove that this feat was that level.

    Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.

    lol. Fucking PIS.

    Stopped a second miniature universe from spawning by clasping his hands around it.

    Non-quantifiable PIS

    Was pulled into a black hole, which he managed to literally fight his way out of by wrestling with the core.

    Non-quantifiable PIS

    Absorbed and saved the universe from a spawning alternate dimension by swallowing it whole.

    Non quantifiable PIS

    Celestials mentioned that it would take the power of a million stars combined to just temporarily slow him down. The word "temporarily" cannot be stressed quite enough here.

    He has been slowed down by far less, yet somehow this vague character statement somehow overrules his previous showings?

    [–]simsolabi 9ポイント10ポイント  (19子コメント)

    • Laughed off an attack from the ultimate nullifier, nothing merely laughs off an attack from the ultimate nullifier.

    lol. Fucking PIS.

    • Stopped a second miniature universe from spawning by clasping his hands around it.

    Non-quantifiable PIS

    • Was pulled into a black hole, which he managed to literally fight his way out of by wrestling with the core.

    Non-quantifiable PIS

    • Absorbed and saved the universe from a spawning alternate dimension by swallowing it whole.

    Non quantifiable PIS

    Does it matter if it's PIS or not? It's still a feat no matter how stupid it is.

    [–]berychance 16ポイント17ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Uh, yes.

    We try to strive for a level of consistency and PIS feats on both sides ruins that consistency. There's also examples of him being taken down by Cap and Spidey, yet you see no one arguing that Goku wins by punching him in the face a single time.

    Spiderman is not herald-tier because he beat Firelord that one time. Captain America cannot punch out the Hulk. The Hulk is not a multiversal level threat.

    Also, part of the problem with all of those feats (and many PIS feats) is that they don't really mean anything. Wrestling with the core of a black hole? Swallowing an alternate dimension? Those are just ridiculous made up events because a writer thought it would sound cool and tells us nothing about how strong the Hulk is.

    [–]wolfpaladin 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Okay who the FUCK thought that comic was a good idea. Seriously.

    [–]waaaghboss82 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    There's also examples of him being taken down by Cap and Spidey, yet you see no one arguing that Goku wins by punching him in the face a single time.

    I agree Goku would win, but come on. There are like a million people saying that here.

    [–]berychance 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I see like no comments saying that Goku wins instantly by physically punching him. There's a couple people who said that Goku could win physically, but the vast majority of people who say he can win say it's through his energy projection.

    [–]simsolabi 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Don't take what I'm writing the wrong way, I'm partially with you. I understand some things are way OOC, but also, it's still there. You can't deny that. If surviving a black hole is in the comics, AND is waaay OOC, it's still there.. Therefore I think we can use that as a feat. Also OP says "strongest version of both", so surviving a black hole would be one of the strongest version of the Hulk, which then means that Captain America wouldn't be able to punch him out.

    [–]Groudon466 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I'm not sure you understand- escaping from a black hole would take infinite energy irl. The non-quantifiable feats are labeled that way because they literally can't be objectively measured. Holding a universe's expansion back? It's an expansion of spacetime, that literally makes no sense. Swallowing a universe? It makes literally no sense. If I say that character A took a sustained blast of 10,000kJ/s for 10 seconds, and then we throw an asteroid at them, we can use math and physics to determine the energy output of the asteroid and see if they can handle it. But holding in an expansion of spacetime? You can't even put a number on that. It's not that berychance is trying to dismiss the Hulk's feats- it's just that those particular examples are unusable in an actual argument.

    [–]berychance 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'm not sure you understand- escaping from a black hole would take infinite energy irl.

    It's actually worse than that. Escaping from a Black Hole is impossible even with infinite energy/velocity.

    Black Holes bend space-time in such a way that all directions lead to the singularity. Speed doesn't matter if you are always getting close to the singularity.

    [–]Groudon466 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well, I've heard somewhere that if you could hypothetically go FTL (maybe with an Alcubierre drive?) then you could escape a black hole. Then again, I've also heard what you just said, so I think I'd have to ask a physicist.

    It doesn't really matter here, though- it's unquantifiable either way.

    [–]TheShadowKick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    To be fair, an Alcubierre drive warps spacetime as well. It may not be the speed that lets it escape so much as it could 'undo' the bending of spacetime that makes escape impossible.

    Or just going FTL would let you escape, I don't know. My thing sounds cool though.

    [–]simsolabi 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Why do we have to bring math into this? We know the destructive powers of a black hole, and if the Hulk can withstand those forces, he most certainly can withstand most things. And bringing real life physics into these kinds of things are very stupid. How do we explain the Flash running at FTL speeds, or Superman and Shazam holding infinity? Comic physics and real life physics should be held seperately, as in this case. And yes, I do understand your arguement, I most certainly do, but if we make exceptions for one, why can't we do the same with others?

    [–]berychance 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We know the destructive powers of a black hole

    We actually don't, which is pretty much my point. Until we as a species figure out a unified system of quantum gravity, black holes beyond an event horizon are unknowable/theoretical.

    Flash's FTL is "explained" by the speed force. It breaks physics in a way that is actually quantifiable.

    Superman and Shazam lifted a book with infinite pages in another dimension. Not quite the same as lifting infinity. If it were, then I'd consider it PIS just like I consider every feat that involves "infinite speed/strength/etc."

    Simply put, I don't mind that much when physics are broken. Goku and Superman break so many laws of physics it is silly (relativity, conservation of energy, conservation of mass, realistic effects of objects traveling at relativistic speeds in an atmosphere) even if you accept the premise that they're able to harness these energies to superhuman levels.

    However, numbers and math are helpful because they provide an objective and unchanging view of events. I don't have to guess or assume how much damage a character can do or take on some weird thing that happened where my interpretation might be influenced by my own biases.

    [–]Groudon466 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    If we don't ignore the black hole feat, then we have to accept that Hulk could lift the universe with his pinky because he has infinite strength. For stuff like Superman's punches, we have to look at the quantifiable damage they do (say, destroying a planet) and go off of that for his total energy output per punch.

    The difference between destroying a planet and resisting a black hole/punching a hole in the universe is that while neither is possible irl, one's results can be quantified with math and physics, while the other one's can't. The vast majority of "exceptions" are simply things that we can't use, like the time when SA Superman flew "faster than infinity". To the best of our ability, we try to count all feats.

    Does that make sense?

    [–]simsolabi 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Dude, don't talk to me like I'm 5 years old. I'm perfectly able to understand you. I have said myself that I think the feat is silly, but I'm talking more about insane feats in general. People on this sub looove to disqualify a action because it's OOC to do so, but should we?

    I mean, if we have seen a character do something, should we completely disqualify it "because it doesn't happen all the time"? I totally agree with you about the black hole not making any sense, because it really doesn't. I'm just saying that I think it's a bit unfair to completely ignore the fact that someone did wrote him like that, and the storyline is considered canon.

    [–]Groudon466 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Ah, I figured you meant the impossible ones specifically. Have you ever read the Spiderman vs. Firelord fight? Spidey manages to hide from the omniscient Firelord in the sewers beneath him, and beat him up even though he's FTL. That, that's PIS. How about the time Batman knocked the wind out of Wonder Woman with a gut punch and simultaneously knocked out the Flash and beat Superman with Kryptonite all at once? That's PIS, too. Both things were completely canon, but we can't have people going around and saying that Batman can beat Wonder Woman in a fist fight. There'd be no consistency. That's why we have to go with a character's usual showings.

    Also, for future reference, OOC is usually used to refer to a character's decisions and personality specifically, not their strength levels.

    [–]DirectlyDisturbed 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Strongest version does not mean composite best feats..

    [–]MrTheNoodles 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yes, because comics have so many different writers that feats can range from extremely high showings to extremely low showings. We disregard these outliers and only use consistent feats.

    If you want to use those feats, then you have to use feats where he's knocked out by Spider-man or some shit like that.

    Using those feats above, you're basically saying that Hulk is a multiversal threat. The Ultimate Nullifier literally erases anything from existence including multiversal beings like Abraxas who is infinitely stronger than Hulk.

    [–]simsolabi 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah okay, I can get behind it. I just think it's funny that we use some ridicilous feat for some, but exclude other nonsense feats for others. If all of the feats he pointed out are from different story arcs and from different writers, then I'd say it's some-what consistent, and can be used.

    [–]flutterguy123 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Goku is not a sun buster

    [–]berychance 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Well good thing I I put him at less than 15% of that.

    [–]flutterguy123 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Even 1% is too high.

    [–]berychance 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Ok, flutter. Evidence disagrees with you, but ok.

    [–]flutterguy123 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What evidence?

    [–]berychance 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Reliable character statement about Beerus and scaling from that.

    You know this. Stop being difficult.

    [–]flutterguy123 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    He dont know how Beerus destoryed a sun.

    [–]Tofinochris 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Not sure how to read this sentence, but Whis tells Goku and Vegeta that Beerus destroyed two suns in a single grumpy-from-waking-up-too-early blast. (Return of F manga, volume 2, page 20; Toriyama is all over Return of F so I see no reason why this isn't canon.) So Beerus can just offhandedly because he can't sleep in blow up a couple of stars, and SSJG Goku had a pretty good fight with him. From this, it's easily feasible that Goku can destroy a star.

    [–]shadowsphere 14ポイント15ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Withstood the voice of the Black Bolt, which is capable of undoing the entire universe on a molecular level.

    ???????? What are you talking about?

    [–]Tofinochris 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Beats me. I missed the part where Black Bolt could destroy the universe. I thought he had planet-level stuff. I'll accept I missed something showing him at higher level but "he yells too much and the universe goes poof" seems a bit much. Didn't the Skrulls do a bunch of experimenting on him back in the day? You'd think he would have got at least galaxy-mad during that time.

    [–]chakrablocker 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I think there's a scan where Reed Richards uses Black Bolts voice and a super science apparatus to punch a hole in space/time. Obviously doesn't transfer to hulk durability.

    [–]shadowsphere 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    When did that happen? I know he ripped a hole in time and space during War of Kings, but that was because of the fragile state of reality after Annihilation and Annihilation: Conquest not Black Bolt.

    [–]straydog1980 30ポイント31ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Plot Induced Strength

    [–]spacelemon 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    million stars combined to just temporarily slow him down.

    Which is sort of true in the sense that sentry was able to stop him in WWH

    [–]MrTheNoodles 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Sentry and just about everyone else went full brain dead in WWH.

    [–]ToTheNintieth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I am not a fan of everyone getting into a love affair with the idiot ball in order to make a character look good. That's why I don't care for WWH.

    [–]argusromblei 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But he gets knocked out in one slap by Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet. Maybe without too?

    [–]Ragegeta 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And there's no way hulk can even come close to hurting Goku. Even kid Goku would be magnitudes faster than him

    [–]zhorlol 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That was a skrull blackbolt when he was on the moon :P

    [–]Cutsprocket[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Hulk ate an alternate dimension? impressive.

    [–]PmYourWittyAnecdote 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    This guy is full of shit and making stuff up.

    Please don't believe him OP, most of this didn't happen.

    [–]gpacman21 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    AFAIK, he didn't eat a dimension, he destroyed one by punching it or something.

    [–]wolfpaladin 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Okay I love hulk but all of that sounds like PIS, and I've heard no mentions of any of this on his RT

    [–]Batman_Noir 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Thank you for this, until I read this I was shocked by how little people thought of Hulks defensive measures. I mean ffs he was blasted into a skeleton and still punched through the attack.

    [–]MrTheNoodles 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

    And I'm shocked people are believing what this guy is posting...

    Survived a blast from the Ultimate Nullifier? From Galactus? Black Bolt being a universe buster? Dissipated the Power Cosmic (like what does that even mean. Surfer has drained Hulk plenty of times)? Seriously, this guy's post is complete BS that's just jerking Hulk to new levels.

    [–]Tofinochris 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My brain hurts but the upvotes keep on coming for his post. No scans, no backup docs, he's just run off.