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I should let this comedian know his punch-lines suck, WCGW? (gfycat.com)

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[–]BrightenthatIdea[S] 78ポイント79ポイント  (51子コメント)

If you want to hear the heckler

[–]RPrevolution 26ポイント27ポイント  (29子コメント)

Is that his wife defending him and hugging him? Damn that's a fucked up relationship

[–]Yago20 27ポイント28ポイント  (28子コメント)

For once the GIF is better than the original video.

[–]mindbodyandtroll 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Now that's funny"

[–]DaAvalon 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha the black girl checking on him and then turns around laughing

[–]WalterWhitesLeftNut 38ポイント39ポイント  (8子コメント)

That editing was horrible. Also, they were both being assholes.

[–]Urrrhn 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, they were both being assholes.

Usually how these things go.

[–]Borngrumpy 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Both being ass hats is one thing but when you close on someone aggressively you really need to be ready to fight...he wasn't.

[–]INTERNET_TRASHCAN 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He thought his size was gonna do it for him. He's a big dude, yeah, but ya gotta be ready do actually do something. Otherwise you get wrecked by tiny people with great kicking form.

[–]Eric_the_Barbarian 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Comedians are kind of supposed to be assholes. He wasn't being a violent asshole until the other guy came at him. Maybe if your heckling is backfiring, it's time to just leave the club or shut the fuck up and enjoy your drink.

[–]Psylock524 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The guy is a known heckler in that area. Maybe next time he'll think about getting in the person he's heckling's face to scream at them.

[–]Mrubuto 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

a "known heckler" wow that's a shitty thing to be.

[–]asdfdsfafd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

the real crime committed here was the editing

[–]AceBacker 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

That looks like he didn't tuck his chin into his chest when he fell back. His head whipped into the concrete. Ouch!

That's really scary. It could have been one of those one punch homicides you hear about sometimes.

[–]Borngrumpy 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

It was never going to be homicide, the guy had already assaulted him and was closing aggressively, the host had every legal right to defend himself and he did so with a reasonable amount of force to protect himself.

[–]Eric_the_Barbarian 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Homicide just means a person killed a person. Self defense resulting in death of the attacker is classified as justifiable homicide.

[–]Borngrumpy -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Homicide generally suggests charges are laid, I doubt they would even lay charges.

[–]TheTrampRO 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Am I the only one thinking Rade might not be all there and maybe kinda needed to be handled with kid gloves?

[–]LeeWon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD STAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]SamSlate 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

not ok guyz

chick sounds more like she's trying to figure out who farted than she does scolding a murder attempt.

[–]Jonno_FTW 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Does that heckler have some sort of mental illness?

[–]AltHypo -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's the comedy game.

[–]newm1070 59ポイント60ポイント  (3子コメント)

He clearly gets a kick out of heckling.

[–]wadagod 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

That was a fuckin solid kick

[–]Cane_Skretteburg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

i read that in the priests voice from gangs of new york

[–]Marble-Boy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You mean... Liam Neeson?

[–]danyearight 38ポイント39ポイント  (17子コメント)

The audience member should have already been removed before it escalated to physical violence, the establishment should of handled it.

[–]cdude 46ポイント47ポイント  (13子コメント)

yeah, they should have

[–]zeugma25 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

i wouldn't've done that

[–]fattypigfatty 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Comedy clubs seem to have a terrible reputation for handling these types of things properly. At least that is the impression I get from listening to a bunch of podcasts with stand ups telling road stories.

[–]Eric_the_Barbarian 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a bias since you don't get good stories out of security removing someone quietly.

[–]fattypigfatty 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I understand what you are getting at but the topic seems to comes up quite a bit. And not really just to have a crazy story to add to a conversation, More like just a sidenote type of thing being pissed at how poorly run the security is at clubs.

[–]unsupported 11ポイント12ポイント  (32子コメント)

The source video is much more better.

[–]steves850 34ポイント35ポイント  (30子コメント)

Audience member shouldn't have acted aggressive but the host should have moved on. He was taunting him after he went back to his seat.

[–]unsupported 20ポイント21ポイント  (19子コメント)

You are correct, the host escalated the situation and goaded him into it.

[–]crunchypuddle 17ポイント18ポイント  (9子コメント)

Legally, words alone do not constitute sufficient agitation to be used in your defense if you escalate things.

Which is to say, someone taunting you doesn't give you an excuse to approach them with the intent of committing an unreasonable touch or inflicting bodily harm.

[–]BigBiker05 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially since that's the entire act for many comedians.

[–]AT-ST 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

It isn't a reasonable defense for Rade (the guy that got kicked), but it completely gets rid of all hopes of self defense for the host. He goaded the guy after the situation was basically over. Then leveled him with a kick before the guy even touched him.

Both guys are in the wrong and the host could be charged with assault and incitement (in some jurisdictions).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/fighting_words

I would argue that the host's statements could be considered fighting words. The situation had cooled off and instead of proceeding with the show he continued to verbally attack Rade. Rade had already shown he would get physical (he had previously pushed the host) so the host could reasonably expect Rade to get physical again. The host then loses the ability to claim self defense since he was the inciting reason for Rade to approach him and get kicked.

[–]earlandir 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

But a comedian's job is basically to make jokes about people.

[–]honestthrowout 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good work.

[–]goedegeit 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You could easily provide any video of a comedian dealing with a heckler. You can't just drop it, you have to address it and own it or it gets really awkward.

[–]AT-ST -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wasn't the comedian, he was the host.

Besides that, I'm not saying Rade didn't deserve to get kicked. He seems like a giant double who had it coming for awhile. I'm just saying that the host has no legal defense and is actually in the wrong. "I'm a comedian" is not a legal defense to assault & battery.

The guy was already beaten, he retreated to the back of the room. If the host want to own it he could have made an off handed remark about the situation that wasn't directed at anyone in particular. Instead he directly engaged someone who he already knew to be violent.

[–]crunchypuddle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Torts was a while ago so take this with a grain of salt, but the comedians duty to retreat was nullified in that he had no where to go to get away from the heckler the second time around. He'd likely argue that he had a reasonable fear of bodily harm, and defended against such. His argument for self defense wasn't nullified, but it was definitely weakened when he got physical first. The heckler is likely the argue that he wasn't about to harm or touch the comedian in an offensive way, and then we just let the fact finder (jury) sort out who they believe.

The comedian continuing to "verbally attack" Rade isn't legally construed as an escalation of the current situation according to the common law I can recall on a situation "cooling", which IIRC generally requires a "reasonable amount of time" to have transpired (as determined by a jury) for a situation to have cooled. It could be easily argued the comedian continuing to yell at Rade was a part of the initial altercation.

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[–]sw1ff2 5ポイント6ポイント  (7子コメント)

Duh you can goad all day long, until people act it's a different platform of douchery.

[–]applecinnamon42 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sometimes. There are states with "fighting words" laws and similar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

/the more you know

[–]Ghitit -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

True, but some people can't cope with being humiliated in public and usually end up trying to defend their "honor".
The host should have just said thank you and moved on.

[–]MMABouncer -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or the heckler could've just moved on. Fucking SJW's.

[–]goedegeit 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was going to upvote you but then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like "SJ double-yous"

[–]MMABouncer -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I edit it out, can I have your upvote? ;)

[–]sw1ff2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hear ya bud. Still, if the host goaded him all day long, wait. who the fuck thought of the word goaded its weird as fuck right. convo redirect

[–]chewp911 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you been to a comedy club before?

[–]stanfan114 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

The guy who got kicked is a chronic heckler apparently. He likes to go to comedy shows and disrupt them. I say he deserved it.

[–]steves850 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Being an asshole alone isn't reason enough to be physically assaulted. If he is a chronic heckler then he should be banned from the comedy club.

[–]stanfan114 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's right. But the heckler was going to assault the comic and THAT is enough reason to get kicked.

[–]steves850 -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

The video starts with the heckler saying "stop making fun of me, stop talking about my mom." The only evidence in this is the comedian likely atagonizing the heckler

The audience member should not have been aggressive but if he is a serial heckler the club has some of the responsibility to address that.

[–]stanfan114 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You say that the comedian should not attack someone for heckling them, when the heckler did exactly that and you defend him?

[–]steves850 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you misunderstood me. I said heckling alone isn't enough to be assaulted. I also don't see the audience member initiate the heckling, just upset and asking the comedian not to make fun of him.

The comedian should have moved on after the audience member went back to his seat but he didn't, he kept agitating the already upset audience member. At that point the audience member showed physical aggression and was dealt with. There was plenty of opportunity for cooler heads to prevail. Someone with the club showed have interjected.

[–]Eric_the_Barbarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is perfectly acceptable for a comedian to come hard (verbally) at a heckler. If it's too much, don't heckle. If you did heck and it blew up in your face, take your licks and leave.

[–]steves850 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The video doesn't really show the comedian being heckled. The audience member says "start the show and stop making fun of me." and "stop talking about my (mom?)" Then the comedian continues it after he goes to his seat with "I'm a sixty-year-old baby."

I think they may both be assholes and/or the audience member may have a cognitive disorder.

[–]chewp911 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you been to a comedy show before?

[–]eraserhill -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

that guy is a grown ass man. if he's too nutty to be in public he should be locked up.

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[–]jravn 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

punch-lines

Kick-lines.

[–]Mathe18 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said, "Fuck you."

[–]asdfasdafas 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is Sparta!

[–]IAmTheGodDamnDoctor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

his punch-lines may have sucked, but his kick-lines wreck.

[–]Dy5function 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After watching the video it's a bit sad. Guy shouldn't have gone up to him aggressively like that though.

[–]chewp911 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The people in these comments are painfully dumb, and it's obvious they've never seen a comedy show.

[–]scottyb83 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS...IS...THE CHUCKLE HUT!!!!

[–]neonchimp 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're both assholes. Rade is just a prick and the host kept making fun of him. I'm not saying i wouldn't have kicked the guy like he did but no one is right in this situation

[–]DrenalineDC -5ポイント-4ポイント  (8子コメント)

Keep in mind I watched the video.

I usually love to see dumb-asses get what they deserve but here I feel that the host is in the wrong. He backed down the aggressor and then taunted him. That is a stupid idea in and of itself. Not to mention the gut-kick could do serious damage. He should have just used the mic stand as a range separator.

Just my opinion

[–]mcmastermind 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

He's a comic. It's their job to talk shit. That's what they do.

[–]The_Nekt 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly, the back and forth heckling between an audience and comedian is one of the best parts.

[–]AT-ST 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was the host, not one of the acts. He may be a comedian as well, but that wasn't what he was doing when this went down.

[–]PoundTownUSA 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

From what I've seen, that wasn't just some audience member. It was another comic who refused to end his set, who's also infamous for heckling and causing problems. Seems to me like this guy got what he deserved.

[–]outforatroll 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

normally yes. in the case of a comedy show all insults and jokes are fair game. if the guy who got kicked is a known heckler then he knows that the jokes will be flying his way.

no excuses for hurting the guy but the idiot definitely had it coming when he approaches the performer in such an aggressive manner.

[–]CIDC 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah man, he shoulda left it as soon as the guy went back. Was He trying to do his own comic routine or something?

[–]Ansoni 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And I get the feeling he was ripping into the guy before. Doesn't sound like he should be surprised the guy got confrontational.

[–]SamSlate 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

who's so afraid of getting hit by a 60 year old man they'd kick him in the chest? what is he going to do, give you gummie bears?

[–]Level20Magikarp -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, dude drops him and doesn't miss a beat. This is /r/justiceporn material.