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[–]jatefromstakefarm 190ポイント191ポイント  (40子コメント)

There's some documentary that has a journalist follow him and take part in his campaign, and man, he seems like such a cool, nice guy.

Not saying he was even remotely a good president, but he was just so entertaining and interesting throughout the documentary as it showed him on more of a personal level.

[–]ErraticKiteRomp 58ポイント59ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's called "Journey's with George" and it's actually made by Nancy Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi.

[–]IHaveStupidOpinions 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe we should blame his presidency on the man in the yellow hat, that s.o.b. should've been paying more attention.

[–]dstrauc3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

part 1. pretty fantastic so far.

George really is the type of dude I'd like to hang out with. He's got a mischievous air about him.

[–]Rutawitz 43ポイント44ポイント  (2子コメント)

He should've just stayed in baseball and became commissioner

[–]0wlbear 19ポイント20ポイント  (3子コメント)

I felt the same way with the "Mitt" documentary. The filmmakers made him seem like a normal, likable person, something his campaign absolutely failed to do.

[–]VonNeumannAlgebra 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I highly recommend this documentary for anyone currently swept up in all the political fun going on right now. There isn't any narrative, it's all just on-site footage during many campaign stops and intimate moments with his family during the campaign.

[–]carlito_mas 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

do you really think so? I mean, I watched it too because it seemed interesting (& certainly was), but I don't know that I came out of it liking him more. if anything, it made me feel a bit sorry for him. it did a good job of stripping away all of the sensationalized bullshit the news outlets spewed about him, but under it all he just seems like kind of a dorky loser.

[–]0wlbear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean it didn't make me want to vote for him, but it was a stark contrast to his campaign that made him seem like a robot manufactured by the elite class.

[–]Tompeps 38ポイント39ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm pretty sure most of us would run this country into the ground if we were given a term.

[–]minutemilitia 36ポイント37ポイント  (6子コメント)

And that's without having a 9/11 to deal with.

[–]crackheadjimbo 43ポイント44ポイント  (3子コメント)

Without having 9/11 to plan*

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[–]___solomon___ 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've got wars to start, my tallest towers to destroy, and terrorists to frame for it. I'm swamped!

[–]Sovereign_Curtis 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you haven't got anything.

[–]darth_elevator 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I mean give the guy a break. He had to figure out how to make jet fuel melt steel beams.

[–]poondi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm really liberal, but Bush is not a bad person. He just really shouldn't have been a wartime president. I can't say that Al Gore would have been much better at dealing with 9/11 and the aftermath. I genuinely think Bush came in wanting to do good, and while he might have completely fucked up a lot of things, he's not a terrible guy.

[–]jacobdegrom 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why most of us don't run for president.

[–]SugarCoatedThumbtack 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've got advisors and straw polls, I'll basically throw it on autopilot for anything important.

[–]Cannot_go_back_now 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's like the Republican version of Jimmy Carter in that regard.

[–]Warphead 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's true, once he stopped trying to destroy everything I cared about I found him quite personable. Truth is I like Obama as a person as well, I just want to some one I don't hate as president.

[–]VirginWizard69 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Still better than Obama.

[–]alpastotesmejor -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't his dad the actual president while he was in office?

[–]sealjosh 438ポイント439ポイント  (83子コメント)

George W: cool dude, terrible president.

[–]neighborlyglove 106ポイント107ポイント  (23子コメント)

I'm not defending Bush's presidency, but I don't know if there can be a good president anymore. Maybe they're only good looking back from a distance.

[–]SmartToaster 53ポイント54ポイント  (17子コメント)

And you have to wonder, was there ever a good president? I mean, this country used to have a lot of blind nationalism. Plus we just trusted people more and that's probably because we didn't know as much as we do now.

[–]typicaliconoclast 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The short answer is yes. Don't confuse good with perfect. There have been good presidents who made mistakes and had bad things happen under their watch.

[–]nmorozov -4ポイント-3ポイント  (13子コメント)

Carter. He was a responsible dude trying to run the country. As a perk, he was the perfect president to deal with three mile island.

[–]abk006 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

Double-digit inflation? 50% increase in the federal deficit? Lines at the gas pumps?

There's a reason Reagan got 90% of the electoral votes in 1980.

[–]nmorozov 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Federal Reserve doesn't report to the president. Carter inherited an economy trying to recover from a recession, and the Federal reserve was jacking around interest rates in a vaguely psychotic manner.

OPEC was flipping out because of Israel. I'm not saying Carter was flawless, but you can't act like those things happened solely due to his choices.

[–]GODDAMNFOOL 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Are you kidding? Everything that happens in this country is the president's fault.

Your land values have fallen because your neighbor's house burned down after their meth lab malfunctioned? Thanks, Obama.

[–]IHaveStupidOpinions 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

Here's a book that explains how Carter, much like Obama, inherited a crumbling economy and ended up taking the blame for it from people who didn't know any better (or didn't care to do any research or analysis).

http://estore.archives.gov/Carter/ProductInfo/C1008.aspx

[–]tootoohi1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except Obama was dealt a shit hand, yet things will be better than worse after he leaves.

[–]fido5150 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reagan won on pretty much a single issue: the hostages.

The fact that American Citizens had been held hostage in Iran for over a year, and Carter had bungled the rescue attempt, was what sunk him. The Iranian Oil Embargo came out of that event, because it would be pretty shitty to give monetary support directly to a country that was holding our citizens hostage, eh?

Then the Carter Administration was getting close to a deal with the Iranian captors, but the Reagan camp met with the Iranians and urged them to hold off until after Reagan was sworn into office, because they'd have a much more sympathetic administration in place (plus it would be an immediate feather in his cap). So they did.

And the best part, the Iranians released the hostages on Reagan's Inauguration Day. Talk about a sucker punch. What should have been a day dedicated to talking about our new president instead became all about the hostages being released. It was like "Ronald Reagan who?". Nobody ever investigated how suspicious that was though. Weird.

This was also the beginning of the whole Iran/Contra affair, his first day in office.

[–]TinderSafety 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think you're forgetting how closely tied to Pol Pot Carter was, and he was instrumental in ensuring the ousted Khmer Rouge remained Cambodia's foreign representatives in the UN despite, you know, being kicked out of their country for being brutal despots.

But, no, you're right, Carter was a saint /s

[–]PitchBlackCreed -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Carter is one of the worst along with Obama. You seem like your blind.

[–]SexyTaft -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's history's greatest monster!

[–]nednerbf -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

A two party system is only one more then communism.

The biggest problem is, its the parties themselves that chooses who gets to run for them, and do you think the parties would ever let someone get into power who would really be able to change their status quo?

The parties get to dictate to us who they think is suitable for us to vote for. That seems shady to me.

[–]RossPerotVan 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's almost always an independent candidate. It's just hardly anyone votes for them.

[–]MaxNanasy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Which makes it a de facto two-party system

[–]ussbaney 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol that ain't communism. Thats just called a one-party state.

[–]superslayer44 110ポイント111ポイント  (39子コメント)

George W may be a cool dude, but Clinton was a "C-ha-ha-hooooool Duuuuuuuude"

[–]Kongo204 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately it's part of why he got elected. He's the kind of guy you'd want to sit down for a beer with.

[–]retrospects 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dub is cool af. He will show up to Rangers games from time to time.

[–]grossygross 130ポイント131ポイント  (5子コメント)

He's completely serious.

[–]Chocobolove 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

Source he even said this?

[–]macinneb 38ポイント39ポイント  (2子コメント)

Really? I mean... I want this to be true...

[–]leshake 83ポイント84ポイント  (1子コメント)

He says things confidently, whether it's a lie or true. That's his genius.

[–]MrObvious 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now watch this drive

[–]Red_Tannins 28ポイント29ポイント  (2子コメント)

That picture reminds me of my best friends (Irish) dad at 9 beers.

[–]AdamBombTV 47ポイント48ポイント  (1子コメント)

So at breakfast?

[–]Red_Tannins 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, he cut back after he broke his legs in a car accident. So, 11 o'clock?

[–]sdbelefonte 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks Obama

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[–]BlisterBox 31ポイント32ポイント  (13子コメント)

I lived in Texas in the '90s when W was governor and even though I never agreed with his politics, I always thought he seemed like a decent dude. Reporters I worked with who interacted with him regularly said that they liked him personally, and that he was a jovial guy who always treated them with respect.

It wasn't until he got to DC and came under the influence of truly evil people like Karl Rove and Dick Cheney that he turned into a crazy right-wing zealot.

[–]JustaTurtleFucker 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I got to meet him once back when my sixth grade class went to his inauguration party when he first became governor. We were supposed to stay outside in that BBQ area but my friend and I wandered/snuck over into the building as he was coming down the hallway with a flock of suits around him. He made eye contact with me, smiled and changed direction to come over and shake my hand (stereotypical firm politician shake, despite that hilarious King of the Hill episode.) Asked me if I was there for the inauguration, said he was glad I came and made like thirty seconds small talk. How was I doing in school, oh great keep up the good grades, made some joke I don't remember, etc. Then he shook my friend's hand and asked him if he wanted him to sign his cast.

G.W. stopped on his way out to address the crowd to sign a twelve year old kid's cast. There weren't reporters around us, he was just... really genuinely pleasant, honestly charming, no kissing-babies-for-votes feel, just simple sincerity. I may not agree with a lot of the things he did in the white house, but small things like that friendly interaction can leave big impressions. I guess I'm saying I understand why reporters found him personable. He really had that ease about him... before the presidential dogpiling at the very least.

[–]BlisterBox 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a great story, and certainly confirms my positive impression of him as a person (as opposed to politician).

[–]JustaTurtleFucker 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah I don't think he should've been president, but his charisma is the real deal. Honestly I was also impressed with how he addressed me. I met a lot of politicians as a kid because of my family's social circles, and without fail even the women would comment on my looks. Oh you're such a little doll, what a beautiful young lady, etc. It's like everybody's default, but even though well intentioned it reinforces the "your looks are your value as a woman" mentality. G.W. asked me if I'd read any good books lately and when I stuttered out "Huxley's 'Brave New World'" he and his suitbuddies made approving noises. He said it was always good to see a young intellectual getting involved with their community, and that actually stuck in my mind as a positive influence. Like, in a sexist state, in a very sexist world, he didn't do the super easy super common socially acceptable sexist thing. Instead of reducing me to looks, he shifted the placed value and inquired about my mind. Older me digs that in a way younger me appreciated without fully understanding.

Or maybe he just thought I was fuggo and didn't wanna tell a lie. ヽ(´▽｀)/

[–]SmartToaster 23ポイント24ポイント  (6子コメント)

Rove helped Bush get elected to governor as well. They go way back. And really, he's not all that evil. I've spent some time with the guy and he is actually a pretty cool guy. Cheney on the other hand... Him and Ashcroft are the two to blame.

[–]BlisterBox 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get what you're saying re: Rove. And Ashcroft, yeah, I forgot about him. What an asshole.

[–]tootoohi1 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Rove on the other hand, is very very evil. He got a major push to Bush by going around the bible belt and mid west saying a democrat in office would mean gay marriage would be legalized.

[–]nopicnic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, that's exactly what happened when a Democrat did take office. Obama's Supreme Court nominations were the difference.

Also, I don't see how traveling around and saying what you truly believe is evil. You may not agree with his conclusions, but that doesn't make him evil.

[–]jonathanrdt 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Don't forget Rummy.

[–]RossPerotVan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you seen lil' bush?

[–]Jibrish 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There were a few reporters who actually quit following presidential stuff after GW left office. They said he was a very interesting guys (even the ones who disliked him) and Obama just couldn't hold their interest like he did.

[–]quantum94 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This guy's like #4 on my 'list of people I'd totally do coke with'

[–]_____FRESH_____ 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think W is a good reason who took the job just as shit hit the fan. The terrorists didn't attack because of W. He was just in charge when they attacked.

[–]AwesomeNameGenerator 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

And then he went to war with the wrong country in retaliation.

[–]symzvius -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did the American government ever claim that war was retaliation? I always thought the American people were just misinformed and wanted a war to take out their anger, and that's why they supported it.

[–]mpyne 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anger, no (that was more in Afghanistan), but they were scared. It wasn't just Bush that wanted to invade Iraq after 9/11, and this was true even before Bush inaccurately started trying to paint a picture tying AQ to Saddam.

After 9/11 the whole strategic situation changed for Americans as suddenly there were enemies who couldn't simply be deterred from using weapons by the threat of force, as had worked for the USSR. To the extent that Saddam was judged to be crazy enough to use weapons he started to become an existential threat.

Even Bush learned from his mistakes though. E.g. the fact that it was possible to have an Iran deal at all was due to efforts launched by Bush to isolate them diplomatically with an international sanctions regime instead of resorting immediately to military force. Iran was never judged quite as unstable as Saddam's Iraq but again, after 9/11 who would want to take that chance?

[–]kcelii 7ポイント8ポイント  (30子コメント)

He had a lot of shit go down during his one in off ice and he handled it pretty well

[–]AwesomeNameGenerator 7ポイント8ポイント  (14子コメント)

Is this what rewriting history looks like? He started a war with a country that had nothing to do with the attack on America. A war that directly led to the formation of ISIS and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. There was also the collapse of the banking system which ended with the taxpayer having to give over a billion dollars to banks to bail them out.

[–]Packers_Equal_Life 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

i dont think you can blame the first one entirely on him.... the entire country wanted to go to war after 9/11 and he was just sworn in. thats a lot of pressure. also you cant predict something like isis would happen 10 years later...

[–]WillemDafuq_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ISIS exists in Iraq today because Obama withdrew prematurely in order to score cheap political points. Democrats have a history of doing this. They refused to fund the S. Vietnamese Army after the peace accord, leaving them defenseless. The North violated the peace treat, marched straight thru S. Vietnam and then into Cambodia where they slaughtered two million people under Pol Pot

[–]futureisscrupulous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The bailouts were several trillions of dollars.

[–]watchpeoplecry 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its not quite history yet in some sense of the word. I knew a really great professor who studied President Lincoln. He said so much of what he studied was politicized he often found himself lost on what the truth was. People often asked him to comment on more modern presidents and politics. He absolutely refused to analyze any events of the last 50 years. Too much rhetoric and politics that hadn't been run through the filter of time and academia.

I actually agree with your interpretation of events. But it is not even close to being the set in stone history of what went down. Someone disagreeing with you isn't "rewriting history". Its a competing dialogue. Disagreement and discussion is a good thing. Its a pretty dishonest and lazy tactic to act like our interpretation is the indisputable truth and other people are crazies who are making shit up to rewrite over the truth.

[–]tperelli 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bush had nothing to do with the financial crisis. That's all because the banks were writing loans that they knew people wouldn't be able to repay.

[–]SlappyPappyWhatWhat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very true

[–]futureisscrupulous 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would have that guy over for a party or an international criminal court any day.

[–]itscrookedagain 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it me or....all of the male Bush family members look more like women as they age.

[–]MrGordonFreemanJr -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow there is a lot of people getting RES tagged retarded in this thread