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Red Pill TheoryThe Red Pill Reader's Digest: Lamenting Tradition Whilst Embracing Modern Slut Culture (self.TheRedPill)

TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan が 投稿

Today's x-post from the PillsCollide forum comes courtesy of a comment by user FallingSnowAngel, who writes:

My issue with it comes from the fact that the redpill has totally nailed the science of being bitter gender traditionalists with poor social/communication skills that want to bang shallow, but conventionally hot young submissive women.

This is a common theme that arises from newcomers, doubters, or casual observers. The general gist goes something like:

How can TRP say they support traditional gender roles and traditional relationship dynamics one minute, then talk about how to fuck dirty party whores the next minute?!?!

Seems like a valid question on the surface, right? I mean, indeed, how can all of us misogynist, sexist woman haters from the crack of Reddit's ass talk about wanting things one way and then strategizing how to do the corollary opposite?

Well, the answer is quite simple, and as TRP gets far more traffic than my private little project debate sub, I'd like to see if I can reveal some clarity on the issue for the lurkers and half-unplugged.

Lamenting a life that you were raised to want, but now realize you can't have, is not somehow in conflict with realization and subsequent changes in goals and expectations. Maybe it gets a little jumbled in context or sequence, but TRP steps in unplugging go something like this:

  1. You have been unsuccessful in getting or keeping women. Either you can't successfully date them, or you can, but they always cheat or leave. You want to know why.

  2. Your initial goal in obtaining women is to find one suitable enough to marry, settle down with, have kids with, grow wealthy with, and eventually grow old and die with. If you're as lucky as I was as a kid, that's what your parents did, and that's what your grandparents did. The concept of "family", in your estimation, is as old as time, so why shouldn't you get to have one. Right?

  3. Hi. We are TRP. We are here to tell you that there is a pitifully small chance that will ever happen, and here is why: the motivations and sexual inclinations of women in the modern, post sexual revolution era are completely at odds with those goals in step 2. It is lamentable that women would rather ride cocks until their biological clocks strike 11:55pm, but it's just the way it is. Take time to lament that, but ultimately, you must move on from those goals.

  4. Change yourself. Drop the beta provider motivations, they mean jack shit to women today. Become superficial. Get in shape. Get good at game. Women do not see you as a provider figure, at least until their looks have faded (AF/BB). When it comes to the young, attractive women you would like to be sexually successful with, you are nothing more than a clown to them. A source of entertainment, that is all. Become the clown; the physically fit, funny, charming, "fun" clown.

  5. Now go on with your life. But never lose sight of the true nature of today's women, and when you think you've found one who dropped out of a 1950's time warp, remember AWALT. Hypergamy doesn't care, and we are living in an era where hypergamy is no longer shamed, but celebrated and encouraged. Never invest more in a woman than she is investing in you, and at all times, be prepared to walk away. Literally at any time.

That's it. I think it gets lost in the signal-to-noise ratio sometimes that we are not trying to change the world. We aren't trying to invent a time machine back to go fuck June Cleaver, after she cleans up the kitchen after Tuna Casserole night and puts the kids to bed. Lament the past all you like, but embrace your maximization of success, on all fronts, in the present and future. Or put more succinctly, enjoy the decline in our Slut Culture.

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[–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 85ポイント86ポイント  (22子コメント)

I'd venture a guess that most of the old timers here (stage 5 according to OP) do not actually hate women at all. We understand and accept women

It's society's opinion that our treating women like....people....makes us misogynist.

How dare you not make exceptions for her highness? What do you mean you expect actual honesty? You sir must be full of HATE!

[–]1lurkingtacopiller 38ポイント39ポイント  (12子コメント)

Beige Phillip mantra: "don't get mad at fish for swimming." I do my best not to get mad at women anymore for slutting it up. Basically, the decline is gonna happen whether we adapt or not, so I'd rather be happily fucking hot women and enjoying it while I can rather than cozying up to a post-wall dredge with dreams of sucking up my money and taking half of it when she gets bored of me.

[–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's the right attitude. I try and maintain it but it's hard. I have moments where TBP strikes but I tend to recover within a day or two.

Mother nature intended men to provide for women. You have to fight society's programming as well as your own godamn genes

[–]Zagiggity 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

It helps me tremendously to remind myself that provision is now an equal parts game. I buy her dinner, she pays for the movie. I never agree to something without ensuring she agrees to terms. Another Beige Phillip mantra, "Anythjng you do for a Woman more than 3 times becomes an expectation rather than a favor."

[–]Metalgear222 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

how to reinforce "don't get married"

[–]SplashArtist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Whats with everyone talking about a decline here? Can someone present facts with a theory as to why society is doomed? I don't see a decline, I see a changing landscape. The only thing I can see is an economic collapse of the USA due to all the debt they have wracked up. Then again, my knowledge of economics isn't that great so i'm just speculating that debt of that magnitute could cause a collapse.

[–]Dravous 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

the excess production that men inherently do to provide for their families and the institutions that support such endeavors are the basis for civilization. on TRP, there is a small select group of people who are working towards their own personal improvement for a happier life, which mimics the outcomes of the family provider, but once again this is a small minority. there is also a small minority who are actually living the dream of having a family and providing for them(or at least they think they are), which leads to the excess production mentioned.

the rest of the men, an ever growing majority, are stuck in a non-productive perpetual adolescence. they are the immature 30 year old school boys chasing the flighty and petulant school girls, never becoming men and never producing like them. women and society shame and lambast them for this without ever seeing the true cause: there's nothing to grow up for. the girls won't become women, dutiful wives and mothers, so there's no purpose in the boys becoming men. if you can't have the family then why not just play world of warcraft?

but that means the engine of civilization, that excess production, is constantly waining, and sooner or later it will stall. the same thing happened in Rome, shortly before it fell. we call the aftermath of that the dark ages.

[–]OnFriday 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You raise some good points and have given me a lot of food for thought today.

[–]pennyscan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Technology and automation changes everything. Society needs fewer workers. There may be an economic collapse, but this will mostly change the allocations of wealth, unless this also triggers war.

[–]Myrpl 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Here is where things get really fun!

A couple of days ago, in r science a thread popped up with the title "Neuroscientists have found an intrinsic biological difference between males and females in the molecular regulation of synapses in the hippocampus". Now where does this fit to your question you say?

Check the reddit thread, short comments by top and see the follow-up comment in the top rated comment deleted, and right underneath a chain of deleted comments. You found it? Good.

That comment was asking "why does science have to filter out any other potential findings for the sake of keeping political correctness? This isn't scientific research, this is deliberately hiding truths". The other comments that were also got deleted were telling him how punishing is for someone's career to attempt to do research and post findings that are directly contradictory to what political correctness and thought police dictates. They were upvoted.

Now ask yourself: If all of them were truly blurting mumbling madmen, why censor them? Why not presents with facts about how a person's findings that are directly against the contemporary political correctness do not result in the end of his career as a researcher?

You will never, EVER see findings that are against political correctness. I believe in the scientific method as a systematic approach to reach the truth, I believe in the accumulated body of knowledge. But the scientists are actually forced to pussyfoot around a shit ton of feels and policing if they want to get funding.

The scientific research that proves how bad the feminist strategy is will never happen, and if it happens the person who publishes it will get beheaded the next day, if not right at that moment. Because the thought police doesn't give a shit even if you have a Nobel prize. You are against them? You go down. It's that simple.

And that's why instead of wasting my breath trying to teach Katie Slut the value of holding back instead of slutting in up I choose to take advantage of it. And once she sees her looks declining which magically triggers a "moment of clarity" and decides to hog me down like a pig in a marriage where I beg for sex while I dump my hard earned money on her clothes, jewelry and all, I'll go "no thanks, I'll pass", and she will go "B-BUT WHAT DID I DO WRONG?".

That's all I need to know.

[–]ITranscendRaceHombre 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Have you read The Misandrist Bubble linked on the sidebar?

[–]Melon_Balls 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think a lot of us come to understand, accept, but ultimately reign in our love for women. Men adore women to an incredible degree, both personally and socially. Our love is this almost totally-encompassing umbrella that women happily spend their lives under. It's no wonder they're so incensed when they get rained on.

[–]herewehoagain 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lots of college aged kids give advice on here and sometimes it's so misguided it will actually contrast with Rollo.

[–]wyit 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I absolutely love and appreciate women and I feel like the big problem with TRP is the posts list all of the "problems" with women without mentioning all the great stuff about them.

Its good that they point out the issues, that's a core aspect of this sub and these facts are what you need to work around/ adapt to to be sexually successful on a larger scale, but it gives subscribers constant reminders of "bad" stuff about girls without having constant reminders of all the "good" they bring.

[–]Zagiggity 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

The good things are a bit more obvious but modern Men tend to forget the bad things in the face of the good.

[–]Trpidation 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fucking this. Oneitis is a powerful beast, as is the male hamster. It's very easy to say "...but she's such a sweet person, her swallowing Chad's cum on my birthday had to be an accident right? Just an honest mistake" when you're in a relationship with your oneitis. Never forget AWALT. If you aren't reading up on the negatives of women it's very easy to forget that.

And that's just AWALT.

There's a myriad of other things you have to keep in mind too in order to maintain sanity and a pleasant life: female manipulation, dishonesty, hamstering, etc.

[–]barryberry 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are constantly reminded about the good stuff in daily life. You need a healthy dose of bad to balance it out.

[–]1SuperStalin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey, I love and appreciate women too... and I think it's disrespectful towards women to treat them like two-dimensional disney characters who are either bad or good.

You're saying that women are bad because of the way they are, and we should focus on their good aspects, but that's just christian upbringing speaking from you. Women shouldn't feel bad about their urges and their nature. People like you are constantly reminding women to be ashamed of the truth, and you're delluding men into treating women as simple good/bad objects rather than incredibly complex human beings.

I'd wager that a human woman is the most psychologically complex form of life ever to walk the earth.

Women in western XXI century have an abundance of things and attention, but they are deeply unhappy, because we're not respecting their very nature. Perhaps some are saying that female hypergamy is bad - it's not BAD, it just IS.

Movies and pop culture have invented an image of a beautiful, maintained woman, who is absolutely in check with all her urges, and just strives to be happy with the right person... and both women and men fell for that image, and are trying to find it or replicate it in the vastly more complex world of reality.

Women get their tingles from beautiful expensive perfectly clean weddings, but also from being the hottest bitch in the club, but also from cocaine, but also from having kids, but also from gossip, but also from feeling like a good daughter, but also from feeling like a bad bad girl...

The media and corporations are manipulating them down a path of squeezing them dry for their money, time and using women as useful idiots to propagate the consumer culture to another generation of women ( and men )... and there you go, thinking that some men are bad for trying to wrestle women away from this machine.

Women's nature isn't inferior to men's nature... the problem is that women are the most cost-effective target. When a corporation manipulates men, they only get men - but when they manipulate women, they get both sexes, as men will unwittingly follow wherever women take them.

[–]Stythe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I agree with you here, I think for people my are going through the anger phase, its incredibly important to have tons of information about the bad stuff readily available. I know for me, I was so indoctrinated that if I hadn't been able to read a horror story every day, I would have easily fallen back into BP territory. Once the anger turns to accepence I people can see the good for what it is. Until then, its better to play it safe. I'd like it to drug addiction. The best way to stop using a drug is to surround yourself with people who have the drug and actively avoid it. Once you've calmed down and build coping mechanisms, you can be around drug users again. Maybe even do them yourself from time to time. Until that point however, play it safe and learn.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problems are highlighted because the problems are important enough to know about AND if you know about the problems you can do things to prevent or minimize them.

It's like having a car. If you get the oil changed regularly and tune ups on occasion it'll be a whole lot better than if you ignore warning signs and run your car into the ground or scrap yard.

[–]aptway 24ポイント25ポイント  (13子コメント)

The saying "the grass is always greener on the other side" comes to mind, but I'm convinced that a greater percentage of people would be happier growing up in the late 1940's than they are today, at least when it comes to gender relations.

There's just too much at stake in today's day-and-age to "make a bad bet" when it comes to committing to a woman, and unfortunately the math is so far skewed in the favor of missing rather than hitting that the most sensible option is to spin plates, build a life for you and live for you (despite society and our biology telling us otherwise), and enjoy the cultural decline.

It's quite unfortunate that the societal foundations which support a successful family unit have been all but eradicated, but them's the breaks. I sure as hell don't like the game, but I'm not going to pretend that playing it my way will get me the "W" in the long run.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan[S] 59ポイント60ポイント  (5子コメント)

Much of it can be blamed on modern technology and the smartphone. Think back to 40 years ago. No personal computers, no smartphones, no internet. When it came to a woman's circle of people, how many men could she possibly pursue?

Her neighbors, her grocer, men in her church group, guys at the local dive bars, maybe a few other places. And if she chose to fuck Barry the Butcher behind her husband's back, the entire community would shame her for it.

But now look at today. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, Snapchat, Tinder, OKC, Match, the list goes on. Men have literally invented the single most valuable tool for a woman's hypergamy imaginable; a small, battery powered, handheld device that feeds her constant streams of likes, upvotes, and comments from men that she doesn't even know. As long as that iPhone is bleeping, her vagina is tingling. She's a sex symbol superstar in her own mind.

[–]T34_B4991n5 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also birth control. Back in the day a slut could only slut around for so long before people found out she was a slut.

[–]redzorp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And don't forget overall social manipulation by the Elite oligarchial system via the CIA funding and controlling feminism at the very top:

http://www.rense.com/general21/hw.htm

It's the oldest trick in the book, going back to ancient Rome. You control male slaves by first controlling female slaves. The males will automatically fall in line in order to win favor with the females.

[–]skoobled 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Grand over simplification. The real root is post-industrial consumerism. There is nothing to really struggle for anymore. Human productive programming assumed constant struggle and we've removed it all

[–]Trpidation 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much of it can be blamed on modern technology and the smartphone. Think back to 40 years ago. No personal computers, no smartphones, no internet. But now look at today. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Flickr, Snapchat, Tinder, OKC, Match, the list goes on. Men have literally invented the single most valuable tool for a woman's hypergamy imaginable; a small, battery powered, handheld device that feeds her constant streams of likes, upvotes, and comments from men that she doesn't even know. As long as that iPhone is bleeping, her vagina is tingling. She's a sex symbol superstar in her own mind.

This is a theory I've been formulating for the past several months that I think is spot on.

I would say the problem is social media, but exponentially exacerbated by the smartphone due to it being available for validation at literally any given moment. Female feeling worthless? Post a cleavage shot on Instagram, instant 100 likes. Cue feel-goods and temporary removal of feelings of worthlessness. The problem is that it becomes like a drug, basically a button you press to get a high. Remember the rats who were given buttons that directly activated the pleasure portion of their brains? They sat there pushing the button constantly until they died or something else happened to them. That's what social media is to women. They carry around these pleasure-activating devices at all times, giving themselves doses of the feel-goods at any moment they desire. Is it any wonder that this society, particularly women, is so fucking plugged into their phones constantly?

[–]thewrightstuff88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read on this sub something along the lines of "today's average female gets as much attention as a female movie star did in 1955" all due to social media and the ever expanding reach of a selfie.

A girl can post a pic in NYC on instagram and a guy she has never met in LA can "like" it. Imagine what that, x1000 can do to a woman's ego

[–]fourbet 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't know how much the studies can be trusted, but there are numerous out there that suggest women have been slowly getting less happy since that era whereas men have more or less remained at similar happiness levels since studying those types of things on a mass scale has been a thing.

Here's two Wharton grads doing a comprehensive analysis. PDF warning. Just reading the abstract will give you the cliffs, which basically are "By every possible measurement it appears women have been reporting lower rates of happiness consistently over the last 35 years. Study done in 2009 so ~1975+ for this one I believe.

If you type something like "women less happy than men" or "women less happy" in google you'll find thousands of articles and studies that all come to the same broad conclusion that over the last 50 years or so women are self-reporting as progressively less and less happy.

I don't pretend to be smart enough to offer any concrete reason for this, but I do suspect that being encouraged to enter career life plays a major role.

Pursuing a career is risky business for most women, because as women have a tendency to try and date up - most successful men would prefer to date down. How many female doctors do you see married to male x-ray techs? How many female pilots marry male baggage handlers or TSA agents etc. etc. By entering the workforce in a serious way many women massively limit their dating pool and I think most of them don't even recognize it until a bit later when they wish to settle down. They also must actively reject their likely strong natural desire to settle down and start a family earlier in life.

That's only one aspect however. I do think it's a bit interesting to note that according to the few studies I gave a serious effort to read through, including the one I linked, it appears stay at home mothers are also reporting lower levels of happiness.

It makes me wonder if there is some alternative sociological explanation outside of the relationship and dating market altogether (for example, being unhappy or upset becoming more socially acceptable to declare to strangers).

It's pretty interesting in a vacuum regardless, whatever the cause may be.

[–]pennyscan 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Perhaps it's down to having so many competing choices and options compared to the past. Every choice made is at the same time a choice to reject every other option in that domain. So every choice will be wracked in doubts.

Almost total liberty and freedom might not suit women quite as well as it would men.

There is more exposure to successful and beautiful women to compare themselves to. Including their peers on Facebook etc.

Biological satiation. Being just plain full all the time from food, entertainments, pamperings of all sorts.

Men, in general, are less masculine or thirsty and thus eager to notice or please women, perhaps due to porn and various other entertainments.

[–]Sawagurumi 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Men, in general, are less masculine

This. There is the whole career thing, which is a male-oriented activity, that feminism made women think was for them. That is because feminism, ironically, only values masculine traits, so tries to make women act and feel like men. Of course, they make piss-poor men, so along with that they have to make men less like men. But women's happiness also depends on men; women are very reactive, their happiness depends on their environment, particularly the quality of their relationships with men. So the result is that even those women that do 'settle down' are less happy, because men don't know how to maintain a leadership position in a relationship - indeed are actively discouraged from doing so by the feminist media. It is hard for a woman to be truly a woman if her man is not truly a man. Result: no captain onboard the ship, and it founders on the rocks.

[–]redzorp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Perhaps it's down to having so many competing choices and options compared to the past. "

There is that and also the loss of community for stay at home mothers.

I remember when I was growing up in quiet suburbia (way back when in the 70s and 80s) and there was an entire community of stay-at-home moms on my street, including my own of course. It was still normal back then in certain pockets of America. Moms had other moms to talk to, or to go to the park together with all their kids, have other moms and kids over for play time, etc. etc.

These days, a stay-at-home mom might be the only such creature on her street. No community. Much less happiness.

[–]yaysmr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most likely its got a lot to do with the increasing ability to compare yourself to your neighbors. The other poster actually said it. "The grass is always greener." Whatever position a woman is in in the world, she can check her instragram and facebook feed and see another woman doing something which she envies. I mean consider:

If a woman is a stay-at-home mom with a stable, supportive hubby she'll see a lot of her friends out constantly partying or taking exotic trips and basically appearing to live interesting, exciting lives (which is manufactured lie, but appearances are all that matter). She'll see professional career women making good money and working their way into higher social circles and basically having full control of their lives.

And she'll be jealous because she wants those things too.

The party girl, meanwhile, sees the career woman and feels jealous of her independence and power... but also sees the stay-at-home mom posting photos of her growing baby and her generally stable home life and envies both her perfect little life and of course her adorable little baby that she is raising (after all, the party girl is denying her biological urges to keep the party going).

And she's jealous because she wants those things too.

And the career woman sees the party girl and envies her 'free' time and stressless life and sees the stay-at-home mom and envies that she has the time to raise a family because career woman won't be able to settle down anytime too, due to the demands of the job.

In a nutshell, women can never be completely happy with their current status when its so easy to compare themselves to their peers and see the things they are missing out on.

And the great irony is that the only way a woman can ever hope to attain all of the above is to find a loving and supportive mate who can give her a stable home life to raise children, but is willing and able to hire a sitter/nanny to take his wife on trips or to parties for fun, and is also able to introduce her to the upper levels of society and give her career ambitions a direct boost by association.

Any woman who tries to have all that on her own simply will not have the time necessary to do it, as its more than one person can really handle. The job will interrupt the party time will interrupt the family time and eventually one will have to dominate your life. You need a partner to pull it off. And even then you have to sacrifice a little.

But to tell women they need a man to be able to achieve the life they really crave is to be a misogynist.

Anyway, the thing about the 1940's-50's is that it represents the 'ideal' version of the Patriarchy. Specifically: men do all the heavy lifting (literally and metaphorically) and build a society that is safe and stable and prosperous, and in exchange they are given the majority of the control over this society they have built. Men use this control to protect the women from as much harm as possible and give them the things that make them happy. In return all men ask is that women put some effort into looking nice for the men, to take care of the minor housekeeping issues so the guys don't have to worry about those while they're out building the world, raise the kids well so we can continue our society, and maybe a blowjob on the regular (and don't worry, hubby will be sure to bring home flower or a necklace as a reward).

Obviously the 'ideal' patriarchy never existed, but if you consider as an ideal, as a societal goal we could try to emulate, it doesn't really sound so bad, does it? I mean, men absorb most of the risk and responsibility, women get to live life mostly 'carefree' as long as they are doing at least the bare minimum to keep the men happy, and if they want to break ranks they can do so but at the cost of taking on the same risk and responsibility as the men.

That feminism has so poisoned the very idea of a society where the men are in control and the women are cherished and protected as evil, and its sad because I think a majority of women would actually want to live in that society.

[–]carbonite_duckface 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How many female doctors do you see married to male x-ray techs?

Funny you should mention that. I'm an xray tech, and I just slept with a doctor. I like to think of my current as a dirty weekend spread out over two weeks. I'm leaving my place of work to go over the other side of the country, and last weekend I was out drinking with some of the doctors from the Emergency Department. Talk about 'Johnny on the spot' Game: She comes up to me and says 'Bronwyn says you're leaving and two of my friends have said that we should have sex!'

[–]BrenzoG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Females self reported happiness has declined steadily to its all time low, beginning just after the second world war... So you would be correct.

[–]the_crimson_pig 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm all ready noticing a few signs of the decline around me personally. I'm in my mid twenties, but had a lot of older friends when I was younger. A lot of women I'm friends with on FB are hitting 30, some have children, some don't but the funniest thing is; these "independent women" are all looking for a man now.

It's too bad that real men aren't interested in settling with post-wall hags; but the supplicating betas all continue giving them their social media validation. These women, even in their post wall stage, covered in tattoos and exhibiting the wear of heavy drinking and drug use still refuse to settle for a beta; at least a beta without money.

Just last night I hit the town with my wingman and we saw this chick from high school who used to be a solid 9. She gained a lot of weight, dresses like shit (trends from early 2000s like flare jeans), and was out with her "husband".

Well guess what? The second I didn't see hubby in the room, she was hitting the dance floor grinding on her DJ guy friend doing that dance where people just dry hump each other on the floor. On top of that, her boyfriend looked like a typical scrawny beta provider dork.

Me and my buddy (who's also pretty red pill, not sure if he reads this shit but he knows whats up) just watched everything and laughed; relieved that we're young guys who aren't tied down with that bullshit.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan[S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was at a local dive last weekend, not even looking to pick up, just wanting to enjoy a nice whiskey while minding my own business. I took a seat next to a woman, probably 30-35 in age. Said nothing to her, but she looked at me and said, "Hi, I'm XXXXXX, haven't seen you here before." She was maybe a 6. Would fuck, but would not invest in chasing.

Literally 5 minutes later, her pool-playing "hot shot" husband is in my face, introducing himself, making it obvious that his special flower was "taken". I pitied him. She wasn't even that hot.

[–]Zagiggity 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

I tend to enjoy the idea that I'm enough to be sensed as a threat. If I looked like a bitch they probably wouldn't even bother.

[–]CockThunderchad 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I play music with this older guy, and he has a really attractive daughter probably in her 20s. She and her husband came to his house while we were playing and her husband introduces himself, looks me in the eye and says "I'm her husband". Not only is her associating his identity directly with being tied down to her, but he is also mate guarding for no reason. I'm so glad I'll never be that guy.

[–]novaksnow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im also in my mid twenties and 2 years ago I tried to get this girl who already had boyfriend and couldnt care less to me. Anyways, he knew about the whole thing and one time comes at me and starts talking from nowhere (and i never knew him before XDD).

That reveals alot of insecurity TBH.

[–]thewrightstuff88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've been swiping around on Tinder and have seen some shit. I'm 27 and it astounds me at just how bad the average 25-28 year old female looks. Some of these women look like they are 35-40...women really do age like milk

[–]yaysmr 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, essentially men were taught the rules of the game growing up, but then the actual game they entered was run completely differently. The objectives remain: fulfill your biological imperatives, find a partner, pass on genes, and extract as much happiness as you can with your time.

The rules we were taught were: respect and cherish all women in your life, be a gentleman and keep your nose to the grindstone, eventually you'll find a pretty young lady in a cute dress, she'll take a fancy to you and she'll share your interests and see that you are a stable, trustworthy mate. You will date her and if you are good to her for about a month she will see you are a worthy provider and protector and reward you with sex (and of course she'll be a virgin! You'd accept nothing less). You will get married and live as a supportive couple for decades. Maybe if you're unlucky you'll repeat the process a time or two, but you've got the strategy down pat: nice, stable, supportive men get the girls!

In one form or another similar to that, that's the lie we were sold. But when we found the reality to be harshly different. Some of us insist that the game should be changed to conform to the rules we were taught. They take a 'brave' stance against the current social norms and hope that you can make things conform to the world we were promised because dammit that was a beautiful dream and its worth fighting for! Its not asking for much, just a demure soul mate who would complete you mentally, emotionally, and sexually so you can make a life together!

And then the others realize that if you spend your life trying to change the game, you'll never 'win,' you will simply lurch from disappointment to disappointment and you'll end up lonely and oh lord SO, SO sexually frustrated. And that's just a waste of a life, trying to fix a world beyond fixing. So we set the dream aside reluctantly and adapt to the game, make the changes necessary to wrest what happiness we can out of it. To try and be happy in spite of it.

Its that simple. If you can't win the game by playing by the rules you were taught, quit trying to change the rules to the bygone ideal and play with the rules as they are... and win.

That's what it comes down to. Setting aside the dream we were taught to 'embrace' the reality we were given. Maybe someday that dream can be recaptured but it will take more than one life to do it.

[–]paradimeshift 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

"We are not trying to change the world." Too bad. TRP did change the world. My world.

“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.” - Abraham Lincoln

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Red Pill Reader's Digest

are you a programmer? or was it /u/Whisper?

Anyway, when the reddit started censoring and banning last year, I began my RedpillDigest.net project (.com domain was taken). The subtitle was "unplugging men one at a time". The home page looked like an official newspaper. I bought monthly hosting for cheap. First I tried wordpress, but it was too limited and required you to add widgets that required php knowledge to understand. Immediately I started teaching myself html & css, php, and javascript from codecademy, phpmanual, youtube, stackoverflow, and w3schools (information is scattered everywhere in deep forum). For hours multiple days a week for several months, I would watch tutorials and attempt to build everything from scratch on notepad++ (ctrl-s plus refresh on mutliple browers was a pain). I had a working database (xampp), log in system that saved custom user data, error messages, the whole skeleton. I wanted to mimic the reddit commenting system (edit: recursive functions for file trees are a bitch to learn). It worked, but I didnt exactly know why, and it didnt have a sorting algorithm. I tried to create my own html editor for article posts because adding an already built one not in a wordpress template was too complicated. I disected the code for them and realized what a nightmare it was to make it work, over 1500 lines of code.

My goal was to become the new /u/redpillschool for my site that programmed everything by myself. I wanted to be the boss. Eventually I came to the conclusion that this was too much of a daunting task, there was a shit ton of very important material like password protection and safe storage I still didnt understand and required knowledge that I couldnt find anywhere. Its best to pay someone else to do it, plus RPS and the mods already have puerarchy.com and much moderation and web design experience. Why reinvent the wheel?

As frustrating as it was at times, when code that looked like it should have worked didnt and would go to bed frustrated, drawing diagrams of the process to see where the problems were, I had many good moments and break throughs. It was worth it and learned a lot.

Mods, I have a good idea what you had to go through to make things happen and what it takes to make this community function and prevent it from turning to garbage. Thankyou.

[–]endogenic 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm an expert programmer. Is there something specific you wanted to know? Recursion is very simple when you learn it from someone who really knows.

[–]Endorsed Contributordr_warlock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ill send you a pm when I find the file with my code in it.

[–]Bushranger00 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

First of all, great post.

If you keep your eyes peeled you can see the blatant examples of AWALT in your daily routine, it takes some unplugging and basic knowledge to see it all for what it really is but once you're there, it is literally everywhere, every single day.

Yesterday for example I got a FB message out of the blue from a girl I banged 10 years ago who's married (29F/32M) asking me "How is your sexy Army body going?" this Alpha widow has played her hand too soon, settled down with BB and is still craving what she was getting a decade ago. They never change and they never grow up.

I in no way hate women, this is a typical attack we endure here at TRP, albeit a misinformed one. I understand how they operate and I act accordingly, I trust them to be women like I trust my dog to be a dog. My dog is by my side everywhere I go, I love him to death and we have a great time hanging out BUT in saying that, I'd never leave him alone with my dinner if I could tell he was hungry.

[–]Retro93 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

100%.

I believe that everyone here (at least at one point) would've loved to have met the right girl, settled down, and lived happily ever after. Many still probably feel this way.

So why do we want to fuck hoes if what we really want is a good girl? Plain and simple, good girls don't exist. If they do exist, they exist in such a small quantity that we may as well say that they don't exist. Not to mention the fact that, assuming you find a unicorn, she could turn on you at any moment due to living in a society that tells her she's constantly deserving more more more.

Ultimately, enjoying the decline is the only realistic option, even if you think you've found a unicorn. Divorce is too fucking real for that shit. And kids? Hahahaha! You must be fucking kidding.

[–]EurasianAesthetics 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think if a man has the capacity to have sex with different beautiful women whenever he wants (all the time), then traditional values go out the door for him as well. You only have to look at powerful rulers, leaders and the wealthy from a number of cultures and societies through out history to see that having a harem was a choice men with abundance consistently made. Like women, we have instincts as well and a successful male is one that spreads his seed as far and wide as possible. I think it's something you'd only truly realise when you actually get to the point where you can live like that.

[–]Retro93 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes sense. I'm much happier with plates than I am with an LTR.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Or another mantra I live by, "it's easier to just fuck and discard the hay than to hold out and try to find the needles."

[–]systemshock869 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also eventually you're gonna get stung.. analogy checks out lol

[–]T34_B4991n5 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also that saying has been outdated since the invention of magnets.

[–]rRaptorJesus -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clever, in an Archer sorta way (the TV show).

[–]fundude1 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Correct assessment

I have been saying the same thing with these clowns.

There is no "hypocrisy" in opinion here. The men often would've liked a more "traditional" relationship like the 1950s.

But women have decided to be hypergamous sluts that whore it up until their early to mid 30s. After getting banged out for 10 plus years, they decide to look for a "provider" male at this point.

The TRP basically gives the reality of this game and how to navigate through it.

[–]RealRational 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Lamenting a life that you were raised to want, but now realize you can't have,

That hit hard. I've never conceptualized it in those terms before.

That is the best summation of TRP I have ever read. I salute you sir.

I think the reason so many of us were so willing to accept that lie, that fundamental lie that "the family unit is evil" was because so many of our parents utterly and absolutely failed us. Millennials are the generation where divorce became more common than lasting marriage. The generation where incest and physical and psychological abuse was so prevalent it was on daytime television. Like touching fire for the first time one of our earliest lessons in life was "family bad". So it's no surprise we didn't question it when the idea was put forth as truth.

Now we're starting to understand just how unfortunate we are. We did nothing wrong. It's truly not our fault. There's nothing we could have done to prevent that hurt. Accept that as truth, then move on. Where to? You'll have to decide that, each of us, individually. But it seems to me, more and more of us are wanting to give family a try, and just do it right.

[–]wolololololololo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

CH did a decent write up along these lines:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/how-weve-changed

It sucks as my family is still all together and strong because of their character and beliefs, but I doubt I can find someone similar in this day and age.

[–]EXILED_SONS 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

TRP cliff notes. This should be the official go-to for when this question arises, as it likely will again and again.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going for as condensed, "cliff notes" style time line as I could mentally develop in a reasonable amount of typing time. I probably could condense steps 1 and 2 into one step, but then it would complicate step 2's association with step 3.

[–]_whistler 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for putting this together. A very close friend of mine broke up with his 2-year LTR last night, and I've been trying to gather a few key articles/posts to send his way, to highlight the ideas I've preached at him for a while. This makes the top of that list.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, much obliged. Just don't try to force feed anything.

[–]GuitarHero07 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I disagree that it's impossible to find a good wife in today's landscape if that's what you're looking for. Sure it's a lot harder to do than before and you'll have to wade through a lot of trash, but there are decent wife prospects out there. There's plenty of fun to be had spinning plates while you look for the mother of your children.

Fortunately, it's possible to screen your LTR prospects using TRP concepts and to plate or discard the less than adequate women (the vast majority of Western females). There are women out there who are not irreperably damaged by the cock carousel, are feminine and are interested in traditional family life. Yes AWALT, but women can be taught to control their hypergamy (usually by a patriarch and/or traditional female elders).

There are lots of hoes out there posing as housewives but if you know your shit, you can spot them from a mile away. In fact, even a cursory investigation into most women's backgrounds will offer many clues.

[–]Spiral-knight 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Acknowledge and grieve for the death of the dream you where raised on. Then face the world as it is. Good advice if ever there was

[–]skoobled 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's nice to have this stated very clearly. It's what seems like the major contradiction, but written out clearly it's not matter of confusion

[–]skolrageous 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Damn, that's pretty spot on.

[–]machimus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't see what all the fuss is about. Marriage might be harder, but playing the field has never been easier. I'm living the dream, and what a time to be alive!

I'm sure my (male) ancestors would be proud. We should be ringing doorbells and asking men if they've heard the Good News.

[–]skoobled 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It depends how old you are. In my 20s I enjoyed playing the field, although I would have liked to meet someone more special. There were a few potential candidates. But then when you get a bit older, you get bored of nonsense and lack the energy and opportunity anymore. That's when men start thinking about settling down, and a lot crash, burn, and find places like this

[–]leodoestheopposite 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with this post.

What's interesting that the title can also be applied to the average woman out there: she wants the Traditional way of getting married to a provider and be taken care of, and yet she also want to embrace the slut culture pre-marriage when riding the CC, post-marriage once she has satisfied her need for having kids and she divorce-rape her "father of my kids"; and unfortunately at time also during the marriage by banging the occasional Chad that comes along while the BP/BB is working hard to provide for his family.

In a perfect worlds women want it both ways, and often achieve it at the expense of the BP/BB/AFC; TRP offers a viable countermeasure born in reaction to such powerful feminist-driven strategy.

[–]1RXRob 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How can TRP say they support traditional gender roles and traditional relationship dynamics one minute, then talk about how to fuck dirty party whores the next minute?!?!

I wish I didn't have to work for a living. I would just hike, scout and wrestle all day long. Now, how do I get a day job before I get rich?

[–]therhymerr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

'Well your physically stronger and intellectually less emotionally driven but I should make the same wage if not more for women's equality!"- women's blogg weekly