Sandwichsaregood: "There's a clear distinction for bestiality too... an animal is a sentient creature but is not able to give consent. You might also say that animals also aren't able to consent to being slaughtered, but typically humans have adopted a different standard."

Craznor: "That makes people hypocrites. Look, I've already said I don't like the idea of doing that to an animal. But they can't consent to being locked away in cages for our amusement, to be killed like you mentioned, to being experimented on, or to being our companions. We just do that to them. We use them, and they are property."

Craznor: "I'm just saying that at the end of the day those animals are property. We use them to get what we want. Meat, milk, leather, glue, chew toys for our other animals, etc... We test our drugs, soap, and makeup on them too. We use them."

Craznor: "Right now I have a leather jacket in my closet and a pair of leather shoes on my floor. I know what goes into making those and it isn't pretty. I also have some hamburger and chicken breasts in my freezer, the process that got them there isn't terribly pretty either. But since I know this, and I bought them anyway, it can only mean that I flat out don't care."

Craznor: "Every deli counter in the world is a statement to how much we take advantage of animals. My shoes and my jacket and my wool sweater are all there because we use them without their consent, because they can't give it, and we as people collectively, just flat out don't care about that. The law reflects this as well."

As pitiless as Craznor's logic is, its sound logic. Its deeply hypocritical of our society that we denounce animal abuse in one hand, while enjoying the products of industrial meat production and animal experimentation in the other.

We breed animals specifically to die. We force-feed them, Imprison them in cages until they are large enough to be slaughtered against their will in massive factories. The ones who don't spend their last moments listening to the sounds of their kin screaming and being sliced open are instead forcibly impregnated against their will so that their children instead may be slaughtered. The animals who are bred for laboratories similarly enjoy a bleak existence of experimentation, then death when their use is exhausted.

All Craznor is arguing that is our morality, our mistaken belief that we treat our animals as anything other than disposable assets is false, hypocritical and hollow. That indulging outrage toward animal abuse, sexual or otherwise is hypocritical while we turn a blind eye to the atrocities we commit to ensure a steady production of meat onto our tables.

What we as a society do not possess is a morality or obligation toward the animals on this earth but rather a selective compassion toward animals that we mistake as having human qualities.