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[–]SopwithStrutter 420ポイント421ポイント  (74子コメント)

I made the mistake of going to Walmart the other day, and I left saying to myself "yeah, most Iives don't matter"

[–]lawhottie 138ポイント139ポイント  (56子コメント)

It is seriously a challenge to go to most Wal-Marts and keep your thoughts from straying to eugenics.

[–]-DisobedientAvocado- 17ポイント18ポイント  (45子コメント)

What is with walmarts in the U.S.?

[–]AshNazg 45ポイント46ポイント  (38子コメント)

Negative stigma, mostly. People walk in there with the preconceived notion that they're smarter than everyone else in the Walmart, when in reality, the other people are looking at that person and thinking the same thing.

Everyone in America goes to Walmart, but at the same time, everyone in there pretends they're above Walmart.

[–]catsarelife666 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not everyone in America goes to Walmart

[–]SupaFly-TNT 29ポイント30ポイント  (11子コメント)

Walmart targets the lower to lower middle class demographic heavily which will tend to bring in lower educated people.

If you look Here the average walmart shopper makes about 12k less than the average target shopper.

Different stores have different demo's; the same reason the average reddit white collar worker isn't frequenting Big Kmart; nothing wrong with different demographics; it's just reality.

To extrapolate that you very well may be better educated, dressed and with better means than the average walmart shopper which is just life in general.

[–]Deadleggg 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not everyone. I'll pay more to not go there.

[–]tree_hugging_hippie 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here. I haven't stepped foot in a walmart in almost a decade.

[–]kilkylEd 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have you ever been to Wal-Mart? Its not about the stigma of going there. There are really strange looking human like creatures wheeling around all over the place. Kinda looks like that Prussian party scene in the movie 300. Wal-Mart is probably the best place to visit if you want to catch a glimpse of these goblins. Its a large covered area that contains many of the essential items necessary to survive modern life.

[–]cptnhaddock 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

So when you see people who are poorer and maybe less educated then you, your first thought is to kill sterilize them?

[–]redditshadowking 197ポイント198ポイント  (8子コメント)

memesmatter

[–]Thereminz 70ポイント71ポイント  (4子コメント)

Dankmemesmatter

[–]Northerner6 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

DANK MEMES SHOT DEAD IN VIOLENT DOWNVOTING SPREE. PERPETRATOR APPREHENDED. SOURCES SAY HE BROWSED R/ADVICEANIMALS ON NEW UNTIL HE SNAPPED

[–]AshNazg 30ポイント31ポイント  (1子コメント)

allbeamsmelt

[–]illegalnumbers 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that a hoagie melt, or an open face melt?

[–]Desecr8or 2447ポイント2448ポイント  (1143子コメント)

"Do people who change #BlackLivesMatter to #AllLivesMatter run thru a cancer fundraiser going 'THERE ARE OTHER DISEASES TOO'?"

(From here)

EDIT: Wow, I just got gilded for posting someone else's tweet. Thanks!

[–]PannacottaArmy 1334ポイント1335ポイント  (106子コメント)

Seriously though, some cancers are massively overfunded compared to other diseases and even other cancers, based on the disease burden they inflict. It's a serious problem which skews research away from productive areas at the moment.

[–]PastafarianT 58ポイント59ポイント  (27子コメント)

Breast Cancer vs Pancreatic Cancer...

[–]Duderamus 47ポイント48ポイント  (24子コメント)

If you get pancreatic, you may as well sign your toe-tag at this point. Poor Patrick Swayze, and Grandma! I miss them both so much.

[–]guinness_blaine 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pancreatic fucking blows. Lost my grandpa to it as well.

[–]Lildrummerman 28ポイント29ポイント  (8子コメント)

I don't mean to undermind the death of your grams but I miss Patrick Swayze more than I miss your grandma. Unless she ripped a guys throat out with her bare hands. Then I miss her more.

[–]Duderamus 31ポイント32ポイント  (6子コメント)

Sometimes I imagine my grandma sitting behind me at the pottery wheel, guiding my hands.

[–]Lildrummerman 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd like to imagine your grandma at the beach, heanduffed to Keanu Reeves as she begs him to let her catch this one last wave. He let's her and she surfs her way into valhalla.

[–]I_love_swiss_cheese 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

I imagine your grandmother in a bar fight with John Doe who says to her "Come on, chicken dick!"

[–]Duderamus 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That'll earn him a Roadhouse round house kick to the face.

[–]Big_Kahuna_Burger94 271ポイント272ポイント  (36子コメント)

Can I just say that I love that you attached an academic paper to back up your statement.... we need more people like you haha

[–]lambtonia 129ポイント130ポイント  (32子コメント)

Did you read it?

[–]self_loathing_ham 262ポイント263ポイント  (15子コメント)

Aint nobody got time for that.

[–]intangible-tangerine 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

The 'background' section is only eight paragraphs and it gives a good overview of why incidence numbers alone aren't a good metric for making funding decisions.

[–]Waygzh 18ポイント19ポイント  (11子コメント)

And you can always rely on Cunningham's Law

[–]surprised-duncan 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

What does the law state? I'm too lazy to read it.

[–]Ignatius_Atreides 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Cunningham's Law states that among competing hypotheses that predict equally well, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. 

[–]surprised-duncan 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Damn, I was hoping it said something about people not reading things because they were too long, so I was attempting a joke.

Oh well.

[–]HornAndDrunky 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

I have faith that somebody more productive than me read it and would've called him out if it was bullshit. Isn't that how sourcing works? /s

[–]ilove42 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

No but the URL was enough to confirm /u/pannacottaarmy 's statement.

[–]notdanieljones 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I also like that an academic paper was attached. Although I did not read it, I said to myself, "hmm.. this guy knows what he's talking about."

[–]thatguy2366 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

[–]dundeegimpgirl 13ポイント14ポイント  (7子コメント)

Truth. Breast cancer is a prime example. Despite what they will have you believe breast cancer IS NOT the number one killer of women, it's not even the number 2 killer. The number 1 killer of women is HEART DISEASE and you NEVER hear about it.

But in all honest truth, ALL FUCKING LIVES MATTER God Dammit!!!

[–]ThunderCuuuunt 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hear about heart disease all the time.

Breast cancer became a major social cost because for a long time is was extremely underfunded and stigmatized.

Certainly at this point we all should move on to other causes, but you don't have to be a jerk about it.

[–]dundeegimpgirl 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You hear about heart disease all the time?? Really because I rarely hear anything and the over all cost for those suffering from heart disease is very high also. I was just making a point. Also look into how much money donated to the Susan G Kommen foundation ACTUALLY goes to research. It will shock you hire LITTLE does.

[–]prozit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So in short "there are other diseases too", and having one fund that spreads the money where it's most needed would be better.

[–]gloomdoom 448ポイント449ポイント  (79子コメント)

"Do people who are pissed at #BlackLivesMatter look at "Save the Rain Forests and interpret that as "Fuck all the other forests in the world!"?

  • some famous guy's twitter post, I think the guard from Orange is the New Black.

[–]RLsteinofbeer 108ポイント109ポイント  (111子コメント)

Disclaimer: I'm a huge fucking racist and should stop using reddit and whining about it. But regardless of how big of a fucking retard I am here's my story! P.s. thanks for gold

Hi everyone. I'm a 29 year old biracial (Asian/Hispanic) woman born and raised in a rough part Newark, NJ. I grew up with an extremely diverse group of friends, mostly black, hispanic and filipino. I'm engaged to a white guy who also grew up in the same neighborhood, we've been best friends since 2nd grade and we're a cute fucking couple.

I've been aware of race and racism all my life, I think because being this particular kind of biracial made me a target of fascination for many people growing up. Also, because I've never had a "camp", I've always felt like an outsider when it came to race. I feel like I have a unique view, not privileged enough to occupy the bubble most white people live in, but still privileged enough to not be continuously victimized by the systematic racism running rampant in the US. Thus I've always been put in the position to sort of "bridge the gap" of understanding between my white and POC acquaintances when and where I can.

Then I found Reddit. In the early 2000's it was a much better community. These past 2 years though...it feels like the place has been overrun with Stormfronters. Simple minded bigots who wanna twist their obvious racism into some kind of campaign for the new oppressed minority. Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit. Just because its 2015 and not as many people are laughing at your shitty gay/ethnic/woman jokes doesn't mean the country is becoming a fascist regime, it means you need to evolve or get the fuck out of the way.

What's been really jarring for me is the way the bullshit I see on Reddit is affecting the way I look at people in my real life. Mainly, white people. The assholes spreading this garbage on Reddit are not full blown klansmen or card carrying white nationalists. They're regular, unassuming people who are probably sweet as pie to my face when we're interacting in the wild, but probably spewing heinous propaganda about minorities online in their off time. Guys, I'm becoming so distrustful of white people that its becoming really uncomfortable for my personal life. I'm growing distant from people I used to get along great with at work, with every micro aggression I clock (not even toward me), or every lame joke that draws on a stereotype. I used to be able to brush that stuff aside and focus on their overall good qualities as people, but now I have to wonder if, say, that little benign joke is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to what they really think.

I'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable around my fiancé's family for instance, who sometimes display that blue collar brand of casual racism that I used to be able to write off in favor of preserving my relationship with my fiancé, who absolutely doesn't think like them, but chooses to ignore certain things and keep the peace because he loves them as his only remaining family members (both his parents passed away when we were young).

Reddit, after 7 years of being active on it, has become a part of my daily routine, but I really hate how this shift in its ideology has me looking at people in my life with dwindling respect, not necessarily because they've become worse people, but because this two faced bullshit on Reddit has me assuming they have uglier views then they might let on.

I know these feelings might be par for the course for you ladies, so I'm wondering how you handle it. Mainly, I don't want these feelings to be the thread that ultimately unravels my 10 year relationship with my best friend.

[–]thimblyjoe 70ポイント71ポイント  (10子コメント)

It sounds like you're having more and more trouble separating the actions of people of a group from the actions of individual people in your life. Welcome to being a little bit racist. Just remember that for the most part, it's not malicious and we may not even notice that we're making you uncomfortable. I recommend assuming the best of people, because no matter what they'll say on the internet, not one of those people is actually going to take any action against you for racist reasons. And as you've hopefully noticed, being racist back at them won't fix the racism, it'll just make it worse.

[–]aeyamar 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

Honestly the brand of reddit millennial social libertarianism has made me fear that my generation is actively assisting in rolling back civil rights achievements from the last century. The solutions to a lot of growing problems in minority communities are things that were implemented and worked in the past (forced bussing for school integration, strong affirmative action programs, extensive government food assistance), but have been gradually abandoned over the last few decades and now are considered "reverse-racist" or unsafe (for white people) to reimplement. Or in some cases people think even acknowledging the problem is racist

[–]mellowfever2 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

millennial social libertarianism

I legitimately think that as traditional social conservatives die out, the fault lines of American politics will be defined by social liberalism vs. libertarianism.

I completely agree, it's surprising to see so many individuals on this website that are incredibly progressive on an individual level - pro-gay marriage, pro-legalization, etc. - yet eschew systemic solutions to race or gender issues.

Side-note: You bring up school bussing. You may have already heard it, but if not, This American Life just had an incredible two part exploration of the efficacy of bussing. Very good listen.

[–]Jyounya 26ポイント27ポイント  (28子コメント)

Hi. I'm a black guy. Most of my friends are white. I've been on Reddit going on three years and I completely agree with you. In our group we make little "lame stereotypical" jokes and I've notice that my exposure to this growing racism is making me check my friends over jokes I usually brush off. Ever since Trayvon Martin, I've notice the racist comments sky rocket. It's not just reddit that shows preference for white preservation. It's also dating sites, Youtube, and even google. The world hates black people, and I feel like being born white is almost a starter kit for being successful and socially accepted in any forum. Image search on google or yahoo "beautiful woman" or "handsome man" and you'll find tons of white women and men. Image search "smart man" or "smart woman", you'll have similar results. I'm on match.com and I have no preference for race. But it's depressing when 90% of the profiles I see show either "white/Caucasian" only or even worse, "white/Caucasian, Asian, East Indian, Latino/hispanic, Middle Eastern, Native American, Pacific Islander"...anything but black (and people wonder why blackpeoplemeet.com exist). It feels like everyone in society is pointing at you and telling you that you have a disease and wish you weren't in the place as them. I hate walking around a mall or on campus wondering if a person is judging me because I'm black. I think Reddit has helped contribute to me being in a defensive state constantly looking over my shoulder now. I'm ranting/venting. And I know racism is never going to die in my lifetime, but I'd hope being black can become more socially accepted as a norm. I feel that this negative view of black people is implemented in families, communities, and the media early in a persons life. Climbing out of those ideas and accepting that "people" are crappy rather than letting the color of skin predetermine that won't happen for the majority. #Blacklivesmatter is a rough start to help fix this. I only hope they can be a bit more effective without using some of the negative tactics they're using.

[–]ThePolemicist 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the racism on Reddit affects some white people, too. There have been many times I've taken a break from Reddit (this isn't my first Reddit account) or sworn I'd quit Reddit completely because I'll realize I feel so shitty about myself and humanity when I hang out in the Reddit comment section too much.

There are a lot of people out there who think they aren't racist and think they are funny when they go to /r/ImGoingToHellForThis and post jokes about black kids not having fathers or something like that. To them, it's a joke, and they don't see it as perpetuating stereotypes.

The problem is that there are some very racist people out there. They see comments that were originally meant to be a "joke", and they don't see them that way. They see thousands of upvotes on those posts, and they think those are thousands of people agreeing with their racist views.

I don't want to change the subject from racism, but I want to add that spending time on Reddit has also made me more aware of people's sexism. I think it really fucks with a woman's mind to open any comment section that is about a woman only to see the top comments are about whether some guy would bang her or not. Or all of the "good girl gina" posts are about a girl being willing to have sex or give blow jobs. It just really screws with your self worth, and you start thinking that this must be what all guys are really thinking each day when they see a woman.

Sexism is different than racism, but I imagine you walk away from Reddit with fairly similar feelings. It's got to be depressing thinking the non-black people in the country are walking around thinking all of the racist stuff the loud mouths spew on Reddit.

[–]talldrseuss 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Interesting you brought up the looks thing. My girlfriend who's half black half white pointed out that most of the posts on /r/gentlemanboners are white women. I just checked the front page on that subreddit now, and i only see one hispanic name.

[–]iBowl 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Places like reddit, which give (mostly) consequence-free anonymity to anyone who desires it are a natural attractant to the sort of people you are describing. That does not mean that everyone on reddit is that sort of person, nor do those people represent (I hope) the majority of their various racial/ethnic groups. In other words, you should not be surprised to see a place like reddit evolve to include increasing amounts of bigotry over time, but you should also not take that increase to mean that white people, or any other race/ethnicity, are becoming more bigoted, or that they were more bigoted to begin with. That's simply the dregs that have always existed crawling out of their holes to spout their garbage.

Please, I beg of you, do not do yourself the disservice of assuming the worst of your fellow human beings just because of the rantings of crazy people on the internet.

[–]cscottaxp 261ポイント262ポイント  (464子コメント)

Saying "all lives matter" actually belittles the "black lives matter" movement.

It's not that ALL lives DON'T matter. It's that BLACK lives are being treated as lesser. It's nonsense to see this sort of thing all the time.

Now, to be fair, there are things happening with this movement that are of serious detriment to it. For example, the racist girls who took the mic at the health care rally that Bernie Sanders was asked to speak at. They sat there spouting off anti-white rhetoric for however long, which was pretty disheartening and damaging to the BLM movement.

But none of that means we should ignore the actual issues.

Edit: Here's a good explanation another person posted below.

When you say "black lives matter" and I say "all lives matter," I am agreeing with you. I guess I can see how it could be taken the wrong way... The following exchange, for example, is belittling:

Person 1: We want fair treatment!
Person 2: Everyone wants fair treatment. [i.e. "join the club."]

Or even worse:

Person 1: This isn't fair!
Person 2: Life isn't fair. [i.e. "get used to it"]

What you THINK you're saying is "I agree! All lives matter!" But what people are hearing is, "join the club, buddy! Life just isn't fair, so get over it!"

[–]chiggeybean 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is a shame it wasn't #blacklivesmattertoo from the beginning. I has much different, and applicable, meaning. The creator of the phrase has stated that the trailing "too" was always implied.

[–]keilwerth 262ポイント263ポイント  (317子コメント)

The movement belittles itself.

The only black lives that seem to matter are those shot by the police. Not the thousands killed in our cities. Not the overwhelming majority of those killed by other blacks.

This is less about the color black and more about the color blue.

[–]frogswithwings 85ポイント86ポイント  (136子コメント)

That's the point though, when a cop kills someone it is the state killing them, not a criminal on the street, but a representative of the state, that is very different and exactly the point of the movement, you not understanding that doesn't belittle the movement it belittles you.

[–]CatboyMac 115ポイント116ポイント  (109子コメント)

I also love how every single initiative to combat black-on-black violence by black communities is completely ignored whenever this topic is brought up.

"Black people kill black people too!"

Woah, holy shit, shiver me timbers. Somebody call the president, we've got a major scoop here! All this time we've just been trying to make white people on the internet feel vaguely bad! If only we knew the harrowing situation right outside our doors!

[–]thatssoravenous 86ポイント87ポイント  (64子コメント)

The idea of "black on black crime" is a straw man. Of course black people kill black people more, we live in our communities...white people kill more white people, Hispanic Americans kill more Hispanic Americans...that concept is only used against black people to deter any narrative of victimization. Black people are the victims of state-sanctioned murder and mass incarceration. Period. We are and always have been the victims of violence at the hands of american law enforcement and the american judicial system. All we want is for that to finally end.

[–]Titan_Astraeus 49ポイント50ポイント  (6子コメント)

I always find it a little funny how many excuses people will throw around to invalidate the idea that black people or minorities in general are targeted, when there are still many people alive from a generation where it was legal and celebrated to string them from trees, beat, torture, torment, discriminate against, etc. We're not very far removed from some really dark times, this type of stuff doesn't just dissapear overnight, there are still proud and vocal racists.

[–]jacobi123 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

Also, by saying things like "why not focus on the black on black crime?" ignores the fact that there are groups that do, and have been, focusing on these issues for YEARS! Just because someone doesn't hear about those marches, rallies, and organizings doesn't mean they don't happen.

[–]Wazula42 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit's favorite "race-baiter", Jesse Jackson, gives dozens of talks on the subject of black-on-black violence every year. Of course, that's not worth hearing about. His TAXES on the other hand....

[–]Clearnews 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wouldn't say its a straw man. Murder and crime in black communities is factually disproportionate compared to other demographics in the country. There is also a diffinative black culture which exists in predominately black communities. This culture may seem aggressive and threatening to other cultures that exist within the US. Maybe a solution would be appointing representatives of the cultures to police their own neighborhoods. If you take Sandra Bland as an example, she lost her shit when talking to the police officer--some black people come from cultures where screaming and using aggressive body language or slang is normal. Not that there is anything wrong with this culture, but it may be threatening to other cultures that don't act like this. Perhaps some Black people handle serious situations differently than other ethnicities?. Maybe a black police officer would know how to handle a black civilian who yells and screams at them better than someone who isn't from a culture that acts like that?

[–]hurlcarl [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

If you culture involves screaming at people and being aggressive... yes, it's a problem. It's natural just as an animal to find that threatening.

[–]Clearnews [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Like how earlier this week, two blacklivesmatter reps stormed Bernie Sanders on stage and demanded to speak. That might be considered aggressive behavior to some cultures and business as usual to others. Perhaps the black community needs police officers who fit into the culture that finds this type of behavior as normal? Or, maybe people from that culture should try not to act in a way others find threatening?

[–]hurlcarl [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's considered idiotic.... to demand to speak at a speaking event that isn't yours. Everyone and every culture has to scale back to co exist in a large of a melting pot that we live in.... no exceptions.

[–]whinemoreplease 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

are you joking? have you looked at the chicago crime stats? Here's a link in case you haven't: (2015) http://heyjackass.com/2015-murder-matrix/, (2014) http://heyjackass.com/murder-matrix/

In 2015 - Out of 28 identified assailants in black homicides, 27 were black and 1 was a cop. and the conditions for the homicide involving the cop are unknown. Similar numbers in 2014.

Black people are the victims of state-sanctioned murder and mass incarceration. Period. We are and always have been the victims of violence at the hands of american law enforcement and the american judicial system.

Yeah.......... the numbers say otherwise. The numbers say that you're overwhelmingly the victims of your black kinsmen.

Here's some interactive data for baltimore - http://data.baltimoresun.com/bing-maps/homicides/index.php?show_results=UPDATE+MAP&range=2015&district=all&zipcode=All&cause=all&age=all&gender=all&race=hispanic&article=all

Go ahead and choose between races - 180 black people have died in 2015, vs 8 white folk, 3 asians, and 1 hispanic.

read more http://allenbwest.com/2015/04/the-shocking-statistic-about-baltimore-everyone-is-afraid-to-mention/

[–]BlckMrkt 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah but everyone kills their own race that's normal /s

[–]blgbird 39ポイント40ポイント  (22子コメント)

Just to clarify because you seem to miss the point of their protest. It's not that those killed by other blacks don't matter. Their point is that when a black person kills another black person, everybody agrees that the full weight of the justice system should hold them accountable and it does, even over-zealously at times. Now when it comes to police killing other black people, it seems to them like they just walk away from it. They are not held accountable from their point of view. For example if it wasn't for the videos most cops who were recently charged would have walked away without an issue. It's a problem of accountablity, especially because those that purport to protect them are the ones not being held accountable.

So to summarize their point, blacks who kill other blacks are held accountable, when caught. Cops killing other blacks are regularly not held accountable, even when caught. It's not a judgment on one killing mattering more than the other.

[–]RLsteinofbeer 32ポイント33ポイント  (21子コメント)

Cops who kill anyone seem to be less accountable. That isn't exclusive to black people so it really makes no sense. I'm just confused why this became a fucking race war of black vs white. I thought the point of the movement is black people being killed at higher rates by police. So why are subreddits such as r/blackladies so focused on 'white tears' and how this is white vs black when in reality it's blue vs black. I mean fuck every white guy I know supports increased police regulations but because we're white we're the bad guys?

[–]dezzick398 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're absolutely right. The problem is the media only adds fuel to the fire by giving such a movement the coverage they do. Now EVERY SINGLE black person that is killed, automatically becomes a part of the movement, which in turn creates more coverage . The cycle simply repeats, and who do they blame, why the men in blue of course. Like you said, the movement belittles itself...

[–]Flowah 11ポイント12ポイント  (21子コメント)

When blacks kill other blacks, no one expects the cops and justice system to cover up for the murderer.

When a cop kills a black person, that is absolutely the expectation. And not only that, it is far more heinous that a person charged with protecting you is doing those things than just some random from the streets.

But anything to deny the reality of rampant racism, amirite?

[–]KonigSteve 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

When a cop kills a black person, that is absolutely the expectation

FTFY

[–]Clearnews 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

'Black lives also matter' or 'black lives matter too'.

[–]oipunk99 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

how are they treated as lesser?

[–]XSplain 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I feel like this whole thing wouldn't be a thing if it were #blacklivesmattertoo

[–]rockidol 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because black people are the only people who get murdered by the police, no white people, Asian or Hispanics are ever murdered by officers for bullshit reasons /s

[–]FullMetalCardigan 853ポイント854ポイント  (434子コメント)

People need to stop pretending there are no race issues in this county...

[–]Arkene 76ポイント77ポイント  (54子コメント)

people also need to stop thinking the way to solve those issues is through more racism.

[–]HeadCrusher3000 194ポイント195ポイント  (179子コメント)

People also need to stop pretending the largest, most violent group of criminals is the police.

[–]moeburn 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

People also need to stop pretending the largest, most violent group of criminals is the police.

They're not, but when a gang breaks into my house and kills my dog, I can call the cops. When the cops do it, who do I call?

[–]ricker182 423ポイント424ポイント  (98子コメント)

A lot of them are getting away with murder, even when it's on tape.
I think that's the problem.

[–]ocellot9119 30ポイント31ポイント  (17子コメント)

The problem is that this is easily changed through local legislature governing how the police are handled. Police brutality may be a national problem, but it is solved at the municipal level, yet no one cares enough to vote in those elections. You'll have a lot of folks making noise at a rally or on social media, but how many of them do you think know the local policy on police internal investigations or bother to vote with that issue in mind?

[–]ChocolateSunrise 54ポイント55ポイント  (10子コメント)

While it may be "easily changed" through local action, the reality is their is almost no political will to enact this change and in fact many localities the majority of voters don't seem to mind police abuse aimed at minorities as long as it stays off the front page.

[–]ComatoseSquirrel 35ポイント36ポイント  (1子コメント)

Right, okay. Never mind that the police are authority figures charged with enforcing the law. Police committing crimes against people is a huge issue. They're not the most violent group in the country, but they're by far the most dangerous when violent.

[–]Solomaxwell6 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, and it's particularly important because it destroys trust.

If you're a young black man and you witness or a victim of a crime, and you know that if you go to the police you'll be ignored at best or attacked at worst... would you still go? Improving police/minority relations will go a long way towards reducing crime.

[–]cubanobay 34ポイント35ポイント  (15子コメント)

People need to stop pretending it's ok to get violent with police

[–]rondeline[🍰] 21ポイント22ポイント  (5子コメント)

Some police need to stop pretending it's OK to get violent with people, in particular, people of different skin tones. /r/bad_cop_no_donut

[–]SLE3PR 233ポイント234ポイント  (27子コメント)

America isn't asleep. We're just overrun with retards.

[–]Lifeweaver 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Been around the world and found That only stupid people are breeding The cretins cloning and feeding

[–]grimreaperx2 56ポイント57ポイント  (9子コメント)

Extremely loud and annoying retards.

[–]Unevenflows 24ポイント25ポイント  (3子コメント)

Nancy. Grace.

[–]grimreaperx2 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ugh, she is on another level. Then again when you work to create views and hysteria to keep your viewers watching what do you expect? Journalism is a dead profession. People want to be entertained these days not educated. They don't wanna think, they rather have the people on TV do the "thinking" for them and then they go out regurgitate what they heard on TV.

[–]NotSoShittyTurtle 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Extremely Loud and Incredibly Retard

[–]Rixxer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's offensive to actual retards, who have never done anything nearly as retarded.

[–]Dont_T_Me 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which includes a lot of people on reddit... just saying

[–]shotglasscase 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

This pic has over 2,000 upvotes but all the comments are spitting venom at the pic....

Reddit is a strange place.

[–]TohkYuBong 144ポイント145ポイント  (27子コメント)

This NPR article about housing is a really interesting listen.

My grandpa put himself through college with the GI bill and got affordable housing, and was able to grow his wealth and put 5 kids through college. Now my family is upper-middle class.

If you listen to the whole interview, it should be apparent that if my grandfather was black, I certainly wouldn't be where I am today.

It's totally beyond me how anyone could say we don't still have a pretty massive racial divide, caused by or at least greatly exacerbated by systemic discrimination, disenfranchisement, and maltreatment.

100 years is not a huge timespan. My Great-Grandma is 100, and I can go talk to her right now. Yeah, yeah, we get it, #alllivesmatter and that's great, but if you think we don't need to focus on the black lives for awhile, I would encourage you to look further back for historical context than your own short lifespan. They've been fucked over pretty hard for a long time by our government and a big portion of their fellow citizens and the repercussions of all that shit are still being felt today.

[–]Capt_Kurk 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's important to note that every time poverty is turned into a racial issue the 1% is winning the debate. Divide and conquer. In reality there are people living in poverty of all races including a majority white.

[–]TheIcelander 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

What race is most likely to be killed by police? Hint, it's not blacks

The issue is poverty. Dividing up the lower classes so they fight against themselves rather than for a fair share is a classic technique. It's why we had bullshit like No Irish Need Apply. And it happened with Italians and Jews.

If we allow ourselves to be divided by race, if we fall for their propaganda with this "All lives matter" versus "Black lives matter" or our feelings about a flag they continue to get away with horrible income inequality and leave us fighting for scraps.

[–]Lamp11 191ポイント192ポイント  (33子コメント)

[–]SamTheGeek 20ポイント21ポイント  (6子コメント)

Good point, bad example. This is actually a completely normal firefighting technique – wherein you soak the houses around a burning one to prevent the fire from spreading.

Still, #blacklivesmatter

[–]miistahmojo 145ポイント146ポイント  (15子コメント)

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

George Orwell, Animal Farm

[–]bluexbirdiv 31ポイント32ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm a little unsure of what you're trying to say here. Orwell was very obviously stating that a privileged elite could abuse the generally-desirable concept of equality to deprive others of their rights while pretending to be on their side. That doesn't seem like a terrible metaphor for #AllLivesMatter, but based on some of the other comments in this thread I'm nervous what you're actually suggesting is that black people are the pigs here, claiming greater equality for themselves. Which would be a pretty ridiculous misrepresentation of the whole thing. To put it in Animal Farm terms, black people are currently less equal and they would like to be equal equal, not more equal.

[–]Rsdd12 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh, I assumed he was saying that the people claiming alllivesmatter aren't realizing that whitelivesmatter more than others.

[–]kdubcdub 74ポイント75ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yikes! A quick search of the #wakeupamerica hashtag on the twitter yields some scary right-winged, fringe results.

[–]IMAROBOTLOL 33ポイント34ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not surprising that any hashtag starting with 'wake up' would be filled with conspiracy theory bullshit.

[–]Lynchie24 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything I read on Twitter involving politics is either so far right or so far left and it makes me sad that people are like that.

[–]Beelzabubba 431ポイント432ポイント  (267子コメント)

How trite. The reason for #blacklivesmatter is that it seems (to some) as if that doesn't go without saying. They aren't implying that only black lives matter, but are reminding people that black lives matter as well.

I'm not advocating for them, I'm pointing out that the hashtag-inspired movement isn't as racist as some would have you believe.

All that said, if someone is doing stupid shit they may want to be prepared to get their ass shot.

[–]GottlobFrege 72ポイント73ポイント  (24子コメント)

The problem is it started with the Michael Brown shooting (first it was "hands up don't shoot")

But the autopsy showed gunpowder on his hand, corroborating the police story that there was a struggle for the gun. And there were bullet wounds on the top of his head and his arm such that he must have been shot charging forward running at the cop and not with his hands up. Blood splatter forensic evidence confirms this as well. Eye witnesses reported this as well but insisted on remaining anonymous. There was also a very high amount of marijuana in his system which may have made him paranoid.

[–]CertifiedWebNinja 24ポイント25ポイント  (8子コメント)

Love that you're being downvoted for not following the masses and actually understand that Michael Brown was a scumbag. And the fact that 4 out of 5 Ferguson citizens are wanted by police for their crimes in the riots and that since, shows that whole situation is fucked and not in "things need to change" kind of way.

[–]fade_like_a_sigh 80ポイント81ポイント  (36子コメント)

Social studies have shown that any time you form an organisation or movement around one specific group of people, it predisposes followers to alienate anyone not in that group, going back to tribal instincts. "My group is good, people not in my group are bad".

In this case, this would suggest Black Lives Matter is doing far more to champion racist black people than it is to advance the cause. The same is true of feminism and men's rights activism where people who subscribe to one belief almost always discriminate against the other.

If you want to make an equality movement, it has to be about equality. Targeting it on advancing the rights of any one specific group creates a discriminatory environment that does exactly what Black Lives Matter has been doing. I don't know of any good that group has done so far, but I've seen plenty of examples of its members being racist and making themselves and the group as a whole look like fools.

[–]Germandexter 98ポイント99ポイント  (116子コメント)

The movement is not racist,some of the black people clearly are. Check how this hashtag is used on twitter and you will find plenty of examples of African Americans spreading their hatred against whites. In my opinion, we have,again, a split up between very radical Black Panther-supporters and those following the peaceful MLK-way. The only difference is: via social media those radicals are louder than anyone else. This process even got that far that white people, who support the BlackLivesMatter-movement are rejected and being yelled at. If you fight to make people treat you equally no matter your skin color,while you yourself treat people of a certain color like shit,then you are a goddamn hypocrite.

[–]Magsays 57ポイント58ポイント  (106子コメント)

There are white racists, I'm not surprised that there are black racists as well. The point is we shouldn't let the minority cloud our judgments of the majority of people in the movement who just want equality and justice.

Edit: wording

[–]butterflykisses88 13ポイント14ポイント  (91子コメント)

Unfortunately, since no apologies have been given for the loud, radical ones, the movement as a whole seems to be losing credibility for a lot of people.

[–]DamnHellAssKings 87ポイント88ポイント  (14子コメント)

Who would you expect to give the apology for the loud, radical ones? As a white guy, I don't feel the need to make an apology every time another white person does something racist.

[–]butterflykisses88 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

Since the women who interrupted Sanders stated they were part of the BLM movement, and since they were so outwardly rude, I expected the official Twitter or website of the group to write something to the extent of "we weren't associated with this and do not accept members of our group to call any race names" or something to that effect.

But they didn't. they just rolled with it and allowed it to represent them.

RANDOM black people don't have to apologise. The group did.

[–]Random832 30ポイント31ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's not a real group, it's a hash tag. Just like gamergate.

[–]butterflykisses88 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that's odd because their official Twitter the other day read that no apology has been issued nor have they asked for any apology. They also stated that they have not yet officially and publicly supported any presidential candidate.

It sort of sounds like a real group..... Or at least a movement that people are officially behind and working towards getting noticed.

But maybe im missing something.

[–]Rub_Lowe 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't care what color you are. You come up into my face shouting anything and I'm going to assault you with my spittle.

[–]monkeiboi 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

Then the movement should have been #blacklivesmattertoo

[–]igotbannedforthisb4 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

slogans that need to be explained are fucking great for getting your message across.

[–]akatherder 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a slogan that requires you to have context. If you have context, it's abundantly clear what it means.

Take the list of presidential campaign slogans:

  1. Tippecanoe and Tyler Too
  2. 54-40 or Fight
  3. Vote yourself a Farm
  4. Vote as You Shot
  5. Rum, Romanism and Rebellion

Without context, they make very little sense. If you tie #blacklivesmatter to the implied targeting of black people by the police (among other race issues), it's very clear that they mean "black lives matter too".

[–]Darktidemage 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't really think most peoples lives matter.

[–]MileHighBarfly 40ポイント41ポイント  (19子コメント)

What is #wakeupamerica even supposed to mean?

[–]Coooturtle 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe the picture was meant to be posted at night in America when everyone is sleeping?

[–]Kidchico 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

We are all literally asleep so they are trying to wake us up with a sign v

[–]MileHighBarfly 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

zzzzzzzz .... zzzzzzz ....

[–]PMmeYourNoodz 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

something something sheeple?

[–]brojangles 164ポイント165ポイント  (34子コメント)

Really trite and misses the point completely.

[–]_Zuckuss_ 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think black lives matter is a good cause with a horrible name and terrible event planning

[–]XelNigma 61ポイント62ポイント  (68子コメント)

Based on these comments its racist to not be racist and its not racist to be racist. Am I understanding this right?

[–]Seankps 16ポイント17ポイント  (24子コメント)

The idea isn't that "Only black lives matter". It's that "black lives don't-not matter". When they are shot and merely considered a statistic it's like their deaths don't matter. The fact that people are so threatened by this idea is concerning

[–]craftbrewbeerbelly 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

Except they're not being relegated to mere statistics. The only shootings that get any meaningful media attention are white police shooting black youths. Black people only make up a quarter of police shooting victims and while that is disproportionate in relation to population it is the other 75% of shooting victims that rarely get more than local media attention that are being relegated to mere statistics. Which is why the focus should be on fixing a broken police system and not just making sure that one race doesn't get hassled by the police anymore.

[–]ASK-IF-I-AM-PAULRUDD 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

The problem is when a white man is the victim the chance the cop will face some punishment is significantly higher. We need to fix both our police and judicial system to get rid of this problem.

[–]Fat_Brando 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait... Are you Paul Rudd?

[–]themadxcow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you source that? Otherwise it sound like your just a victim to your own racism.

[–]ThatZBear 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't just extinguish fires. #FiresLivesMatter

[–]janus_marine 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish I got to sleep 1/2 as much as strangers tell me to "Wake up"

[–]Sullyville [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Similar to this, whenever I'm asked for spare change by a homeless dude, I say to him, "We could all use some change" and keep walking.

[–]randompaul100 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You clearly dont underatand the point of black lives matter if you say All lives matter.

[–]gm4 25ポイント26ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm keeping r/pics unblocked just to see how much shittier it gets, this might be the worst post I've ever seen

[–]I_Am_Dancing_GROOT 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

But them Indians they don't matter just the land

  • I'm native and I approve this message

[–]SeanLFC 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

StopKillingEachOtherYouDumbCunts would be a good campaign for a lot of the issues.

[–]RainyReese 25ポイント26ポイント  (11子コメント)

This entire BLM/ALM campaigning has turned into nothing but dramatic shit promoting racism instead of trying to dissolve it.

[–]justinsayin 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Does it concern anyone else that all the lettering was done in Photoshop?

It would have been weird to be one of these guys, holding whatever sign they were actually holding, and this morning you find yourself supporting a totally different cause.

[–]Meowkittns 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Black Lives Matter movement and slogan is not racist. Countering their statment with "all lives matter" is to completely ignore the issue that black lives are currently mattering less. It is the same kind of crap that feminists get, and serves to pacifiy the real issue of inequality.

[–]aenima1991 48ポイント49ポイント  (52子コメント)

i get their point, but they are missing the point of #blacklivesmatter

[–]jpsyence 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

In America only money matters.

[–]dave_finkle 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think at this point everyone agrees that there are problems with police brutality. We've seen videos of all races of cops committing acts of unnecessary violence against people of all races. Instead of focusing on the races of the victims, let's focus on the problem, which is that there needs to be a change in training or approach by police. It can be argued that the higher rate of incarceration of one race over another is racism, but based on the statistics I've seen below, it seems that people being killed by cops are about in line with the rate of incarceration or arrest for each race, which means the real problem is police brutality across the board, not police being more brutal in the way they handle one race compared to another (outside of the fact that they are arresting members of some races more than others, despite similar drug usage statistics and the like). So, when we talk about how people are being arrested, yes there needs an overhaul because it seems race is playing a role, but when we talk about police brutality, they seem to beating the shit out of everyone equally.

[–]TheIcelander 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

which is that there needs to be a change in training or approach by police

Take away their guns. Simple as that. Force them to actually think about what they're doing and remove the easy way out.

Second, treat them like the civilian force they are. Stop giving them armored cars so they can bust pot dealers. And why does a rural sheriff's deputy need a semiautomatic assault rifle and two pistols?

[–]dave_finkle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The problem with the type of stuff they are buying is money. They feel the need to spend money so that they will continue getting more from the government. Anyone that has ever worked a government job (including education) will attest to the spend it or lose it mentality. So, they end up buying this ridiculous stuff, then want to go play with their shiny new toys.

[–]wowy-lied 22ポイント23ポイント  (16子コメント)

I think people would take this kind o thing more seriously if people of the BLM stopped acting like cunt.

[–]ptd163 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's more profitable to be asleep than awake, sorry. Until profit margins change nothing happens in an oligarchy.

[–]Mr_Locke 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh shit don't let the crazy BLM people see that shit!

[–]treetop82 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're so racists, we all know only BlackLivesMatter.

[–]Luthalis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

#exceptspiderlives

[–]scarabic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If all lives matter, then black lives matter. QED. What's the issue?

[–]spitfire690 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just thinking the other day about when we're going to stop saying gay/womens/black/etc rights and just say human rights.

[–]PandaXXL 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Garbage post

[–]nocontroll 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you take away the signs this looks like the beginning of a terrifying Dr. Who episode.

[–]NWesterer 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Way to go BLM. You took a national, cross-racial movement towards law enforcement reform and turned it into a race war. Great job.

[–]Sc2God 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Um thats racist everybody knows that only black lives matter and if you say that all lives matter you are racist.

[–]recoverybelow 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

what the fuck is this bullshit, fuck this sub