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So I started HRT almost a year ago, and it hasn't done shit. I still look disgusting and ugly, and that's never going to change. People who manage to pass start off looking better than I ever will. So do people who don't. I know the process takes a few years, but I have enough wrong with me that it's not reasonable to expect HRT to fix anything.
Can't afford any sort of surgery, can't focus or function well enough (despite the constant pile of "just learn to be okay with never passing" i get) that I'll ever be in a position where I can.
So if I'm stuck being disgusting and malformed to the point where leaving my room is a painful experience for the rest of my life, there's no real reason not to just quit while I'm ahead. Probably at the end of this year, unless I change plans.
Not sure why I'm even putting this here, I can't imagine anyone really cares about stuff like this. I'm pretty much just one of the ones that never manage to transition or pass that everyone looks at, thinks "wow i'm glad i'm not one of the unlucky ones," and avoids talking about as much as possible.
e: Decided to go through with it. It won't get better and I can't take more as it is. For what it's worth, thanks for listening.
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[–]javatimes 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
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Have you ever sought treatment for depression? Depression is a medical issue that can be treated, often with cognitive therapy and sometimes medication. Trans people are highly prone to depression, and I think in your case it's coupled with severe anxiety, which can also be treated. I don't really know how you look but your worth as a person doesn't depend on how you look. Regardless, the first year or two on hormones are a mess for many trans people--you are going through puberty and puberty is never easy. Often it takes quite a while for changes to solidify. I also wonder if perhaps your meds aren't correct, or aren't correctly dosed.
I am not immune to this kind of ideation myself, though my situation is different. I can only say that I am on medicine for depression and anxiety and that it has helped.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
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I've been on an SSRI and talking to a therapist for most of a year. It helps a little, but not enough to fix any dysphoria. The only thing that would really ever fix this would be being able to transition. Right now I'm just trying to hold out until I stop looking too much like a man to ever be able to pass, and between how I look and how little HRT can do to help, it's pretty unlikely that it would ever happen at all, much less soon enough to matter. Most trans people get pretty good or at least decent results from HRT, but I guess someone has to be unlucky enough to be at the bottom of that spectrum. Really wish it wasn't me though.
[–]ms_sanders 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
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Oh bullshit. Stay on the HRT, work on getting yourself functional. Weather your bad days, enjoy your good days, and quit it with the "disgusting and malformed" crap. Would you ever say that about any other person?
"Quit while you're ahead" indeed. You don't exactly sound like you believe you're ahead of anything. You don't even talk of yourself like you're a human being deserving of decency. What the hell's up with that? Get off the self-hate merry-go-round, and start giving yourself the basic respect you will need for the months / years ahead. Transition is one amazing journey, why the hell would you want to get off before you even find out what you're capable of???
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
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It's never come up, because I've never met anyone who looks as ugly and masculine as I do that didn't identify as male. I've had enough people say it to me that it isn't really in question anymore. Friends, family, therapists, everyone.
"Quitting while I'm ahead" is probably a poor choice of words. I don't have good days. There's no process or journey, that's for people who are a lot luckier than I'll ever be. I just get to decide between spending another 60 years looking like a man no matter what I do and trying to deal with it, or just skipping it and getting out.
As for finding out what I'm capable of, I look worse mid-transition than the start of every non-passing timeline I've ever seen, up to and including the ones that start 30 years older than me. Not even exaggerating. I can do as much as I want with presentation and not only has nobody ever even noticed, I've had friends, family, and at least one therapist (who delayed HRT for a full year because of it) tell me I never even try, so I must not care about transitioning. I'm not capable of anything. I just want out so I don't have to spend another 60 years stuck where I am now.
[–]Violent_Bounce 0 points1 point2 points  (9 children)
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Just like with cis-people, we aren't all as "gifted" in aesthetics, and being one who falls into that group handily, if that is a written on the wall "game over" then I should have offed myself in high school.
Depression is a serious issue, go speak to someone about it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (8 children)
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Cis women never have to worry about being read as male without a single exception for their entire life, even if they are ugly.
[–]Violent_Bounce 1 point2 points3 points  (7 children)
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There are definitely cis-women out there who though their voice and mannerisms may save them from being read as actually being male get flak for being "manly looking".
My step sister is 6' 0", has somewhat of a masculine face structure. Larger chin than me, somewhat sloped forehead(despite a low-ish hairline), and her cheeks look more like mine than they look like any of the other women in her family. She has been told she looks like manly, and it wrecked her. But she learned to not let that get to her.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (6 children)
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"manly" and "male" are two different things.
[–]Violent_Bounce 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
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Do you honestly think it makes them feel any better than you do for being tagged as male? I honestly don't think so.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
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"You look so masculine that you have to be a man" over "you're obviously a woman but you're masculine", dozens of times a day for multiple decades without a single exception? Yeah. I honestly think it's worse. Guess I'm just weak. I'm glad your experience with dysphoria is so much lighter than that, but mine isn't and I can't just "get over it."
[–]Violent_Bounce -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
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I'm sorry you feel that way. But I don't know if you understand how badly that can wreck a woman's emotions. And your situation happens to me all the time. So I know how bad it sucks. But there isn't anything outside of FFS that I can do about it. And to me, life is always worth living, no matter how bad you have it, someone else has it worse.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
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But I don't know if you understand how badly that can wreck a woman's emotions
Unless you're implying what it looks like you're implying, I'd think I kind of have a pretty solid firsthand perspective.
Anyway, FFS wouldn't help in my case. It's great that you either don't look as disgusting as me or just have the energy to keep dealing with that situation, but I can't keep doing that for the rest of my life. Even if there are "real women" that have it worse.
[–]Violent_Bounce -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
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It's nothing to do with "real women" or not. We are all real women. It's just that I didn't feel like specifying cis or trans, because I figured the context of the prior comment already cleared that up. How wouldn't FFS help?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
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Even if there was any chance of me forcing myself to just deal with it long enough to get to a place where I can afford surgeries, I'm just overall giant, disgusting, and masculine to the point where it can't be reversed with or without it.
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