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[–]Gary_FucKing 299ポイント300ポイント301ポイント 2時間前 (79子コメント)
Yeah I really hate how fast people on here are for death, torture, and rape as appropriate punishment for killing a dog or mugging someone, fucking ridiculous.
[–]Transcriber3 94ポイント95ポイント96ポイント 1時間前 (78子コメント)
If you killed my dog I would probably try and kill you.
[–]theholyllama 262ポイント263ポイント264ポイント 1時間前 (38子コメント)
That's why families of victims don't get special judicial powers. There has to be objective rulings.
[–]jakeryan91 [スコア非表示] 16分前 (0子コメント)
We had an informal debate club and I got glares from everyone in the room when I brought up objectivity as it relates to the death penalty
[+]308NegraArroyoLn スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 41分前 (0子コメント)
As a third party, I'd allow it.
a life is a life.
[+]Transcriber3 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 1時間前 (35子コメント)
Death of a pet is where I would draw the line, I cannot put a monetary value on the life of my pet, nor can I put a finger on a punishment for it, I would never accept the ruling of a bunch of people who don't know the pain of some cunt murdering a pet.
This should not be a clean and cold ruling where everything is weighed, you can keep your court ruling, I will opt for a baseball bat and I will gladly take any consequences laid upon me by a bunch of cold and calculating people who want everything kept clean and tidy.
[–]ranfea [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (20子コメント)
you'll be charged with battery and spend time in jail, because violence is not the kind of justice that a civilized society practices.
[–]DefendedCobra29 [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (19子コメント)
It's okay, he's just talking out his arse.
[+]Transcriber3 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 58分前 (18子コメント)
Why do you believe that, do you think that I would just shrug off the death of a pet like I would if some asshole stole my tv?
No I would find that person and stick a knife in his/her neck, they will know the fear, the pain of death and the approaching oblivion that my pet felt, if you want to cause death you should damn well taste it in return.
[–]redditmeastory [スコア非表示] 52分前 (12子コメント)
This is why a civil society has these rules, so that psychos like you are kept away from the general populace. You say you would stick a knife in the persons neck. Now while I think you are full of it, people in general are terrible at judging what they would do, if you happen to be a psycho that thinks they can stab people because you are upset, then you need to be restrained and taken away.
[–]NonOffensiveGuy [スコア非表示] 42分前 (11子コメント)
Now change it from "dog" to "family member"(which they are), and the perp is still in front of you. How is shooting/stabbing/beating them to death not an option?
[–]Deepartery [スコア非表示] 39分前 (7子コメント)
Because I come from a society that put that behavior behind a millenia ago?
Now suddendly the family of th perp can do the same for you, eye for an eye and so on.
[–]redditmeastory [スコア非表示] 36分前 (2子コメント)
Most likely the person that just did this is a psycho. I doubt I have the ability to take such a person on. Now even if I did, murdering them does not help me in any way. Obviously this is in the case where I don't need to protect myself, of course I would try to.
[–]Seekzor [スコア非表示] 50分前 (0子コメント)
And you just killed someones brother. That person will then find your sister and kill her so you know the pain he felt. AMAZING JUSTICE YOU GOT THERE
[–]SirRastusBear [スコア非表示] 50分前 (0子コメント)
And then you'll teleport behind him, unsheathe your katana, and whisper softly in his ear : "Pssht, nothin personel kid."
You're not John Wick.
[–]DefendedCobra29 [スコア非表示] 55分前 (0子コメント)
do you think that I would just shrug off the death of a pet like I would if some asshole stole my tv?
Yup.
[–]Quarkis [スコア非表示] 37分前 (0子コメント)
Bitch, he said "killing" a dog. Not "hunting down and murdering" a dog you simple twat
[–]Project_Raiden [スコア非表示] 52分前 (0子コメント)
Dude your so cool
[–]Apocalvps [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (6子コメント)
There's no place for that kind of "justice" in a civil society, no matter how much you love your pet.
[–]NOPUNCTUATION0127 [スコア非表示] 33分前 (0子コメント)
Agreed killing is bad for a reason we shouldn't stoop to that level
[–]MythicalMagicMan [スコア非表示] 59分前* (4子コメント)
The above poster said he was ready to accept the consequences of his actions, and I'm in the same boat. My dogs are my family. They have personality, they show compassion, and comfort me when I'm down. So if someone intentionally harmed them or killed them I'm doing what I can in my power to make sure they get what they deserve in MY eyes. Fuck civility at that point, killing my family is barbaric so I'll react in the same way. I don't have kids, but I love my dogs as much if not more than some people love their kids.
[–]Seekzor [スコア非表示] 48分前 (2子コメント)
And then a member of his family kills you by the same qay of thinking. Nothing was gained but more death and violence
[–]MythicalMagicMan [スコア非表示] 35分前 (1子コメント)
At least I would feel vindicated before my death. I don't have a lot to lose anyway. I see your point, but that's not going to change how I feel about the situation. My own poor choices, and societal standards made me a cynic. Despite that I'm happy where I am in my life right now. I mind my own business and I stay out of the way. So if someone wants to get in the way of that by taking what I love away I'd gladly sacrifice my life to take theirs. Fucked up? Sure. But it's how I feel regardless.
[–]Mattk50 [スコア非表示] 4分前 (0子コメント)
and then the revenge killings continue forever. It's barbaric and extremely common in some parts of the world we typically consider third world shitholes.
We all know you are just talking out of your ass though.
[–]110000110 [スコア非表示] たった今 (0子コメント)
As a bit of a sidenote ,I find it a bit strange that we consider the people that murder /abuse animals as such pieces of shit ,how they should be punished in a same way as their acts upon the creature , which is in some way understandable .
While at the same time , not in the views of the general public , in places not very close to towns and cities ( due to the smell and other factors ) , millions of pigs and cows live in torture conditions their entire fucking lives and then are slaughtered. Pigs especially are highly intelligent animals ,more than dogs and cats in fact , and also cows display high levels of emotions.
Moral questions ,how are we better than people who abuse or murder pets , when the act of consuming meat brings so much suffering on these animals? (speaking of the animal itself ,not the pain that a owner has to endure for losing the pet )
(and I'm not vegas preaching ,as I do eat meat myself)
[–]herpityderpdoo [スコア非表示] 51分前 (0子コメント)
Internet tough guy, reporting in.
[–]tobiasvl [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (0子コメント)
This is exactly why the government both makes the laws and punishes the people who break its laws.
[–]yhelothere [スコア非表示] 55分前 (4子コメント)
I don't care about your dog. For me it's just an animal I would kick to the side of the road if I'd hit it with the car. You see?
[–]Transcriber3 [スコア非表示] 48分前 (3子コメント)
And I feel the same way about some people.
[–]yhelothere [スコア非表示] 17分前 (2子コメント)
Well you'd go in jail. I won't.
[–]Transcriber3 [スコア非表示] 15分前 (1子コメント)
Well if I killed you for killing my dog, you would be dead, I wouldn't be.
[–]Bbqbones [スコア非表示] 5分前 (0子コメント)
But you'd be worse off, potato podeado
[–]FiddyFo [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (10子コメント)
If you killed my brother over a fucking dog then I'd probably do the same to you.
[–]arthur_science [スコア非表示] 38分前 (2子コメント)
It's the circle of deeeeaaaath!
[–]CaptainSci [スコア非表示] 8分前 (0子コメント)
And it kills us all
Through despair and fear
Through hate and misery
Till we find our place
On the path unwinding
In the circle
The circle of death.
[–]alawmandese [スコア非表示] 5分前 (0子コメント)
And it kills us aaaaaallllllllllll!
[–]bazilbt [スコア非表示] 40分前 (0子コメント)
Then my family would form an army and besiege your castle.
[–]sebohood [スコア非表示] 41分前* (1子コメント)
If you killed him over killing your brother over killing his dog I'd kill you!
[–]smasters908 [スコア非表示] 36分前 (0子コメント)
It's kills all the way down
[+]Transcriber3 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 1時間前 (2子コメント)
You would do what you have to, so would I, it would be a bloodbath but killing pets is where I no longer tolerate the existence of a person.
[–]Mif_ [スコア非表示] 49分前 (0子コメント)
where I no longer tolerate the existence of a person.
Careful not to cut yourself on that edge.
[–]The_Fan [スコア非表示] 34分前 (0子コメント)
What do you mean you no longer tolerate it? You don't really have a say in the matter.
[–]laspero [スコア非表示] 46分前 (0子コメント)
Well what was your brother doing killing people's dogs? A guy who goes around killing pets for no reason probably deserves a good murdering.
[–]AtomGray 42ポイント43ポイント44ポイント 1時間前 (3子コメント)
Okay, but if you killed my dog, I'd have the government kill you.
[–]HadrasVorshoth [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (2子コメント)
Because that's different, ethically?
[–]Oshojabe [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Ideally, the state judicial system should be more objective and provide justice when all people scream for is revenge. That would probably mean that if you kill a dog, the government probably won't kill you but you might pay a fine or do some time in prison.
[–]dagoon79 [スコア非表示] 51分前 (0子コメント)
People are going to scream for justice for a dog, rape or murder while the judicial system steps in to bring some sort of order to the chaos , but there is fine line when it's the government that falls into that category such as this situation where now you step back and think twice about what is even worse.
[–]Gal_Qbar_over_Q [スコア非表示] 38分前 (1子コメント)
And you'd go to prison for it, hopefully.
[–]androx87 [スコア非表示] 1分前 (0子コメント)
M'temporary insanity plea.
[–]holganaut [スコア非表示] 31分前 (0子コメント)
Are you fucking kidding? Dog =/= human.
[–]Kakarot_faps [スコア非表示] 41分前 (0子コメント)
That's kinda fucked up. I hope if something like that really happened you'd be a little more logical.
[–]seedlesssoul [スコア非表示] 37分前 (0子コメント)
Found John Wick!
[–]Peil [スコア非表示] 26分前 (0子コメント)
If some randomer killed some other randomer's dog how would you feel? Mad, but enough to kill him? Crimes are committed against society, not people, which sounds dumb but it's the only way it can work, and since "society" is why we have laws in the first place prison is meant to take the bad apples out of it and hopefully turn them to good apples. You can't have the victims choose the punishment, because what if someone is murdered and their mother wants the murderer executed but their father doesn't believe in capital punishment? This is why I think there should be standard sentences, for example 65 years for rape and 75 for murder. For theft, 1 year for every 100 dollars stolen, or 10 if it's a violent robbery. I'm not a law maker so don't judge, it's just an idea.
[–]BattleDrillOneAlpha [スコア非表示] 20分前 (0子コメント)
If you killed my dog I would probably try and kill you
No. No, you wouldn't.
[–]JamesMean [スコア非表示] 11分前 (0子コメント)
And I get it 100%, however, the state should not. Because it should be above revenge, it's supposed to be just.
In my case if someone kills anyone in my family, I will find him, get a nice book on torture and see how long he lasts. However, I would like the state to avoid torturing people since it's wrong. Some people fail to separate the two and that's really scary.
[–]knows_some_people -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1時間前 (3子コメント)
Definitely, i find that 100% reasonable if the dog was intentionally killed.
[–]mdcsd [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (2子コメント)
That's a barbaric response based nothing on primal animal rage.
[+]knows_some_people スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 1時間前 (1子コメント)
We are animals.
[–]calivino [スコア非表示] 40分前 (0子コメント)
People seem to forget that sometimes. But we have to use our superior intelligence and logic to draw the line somewhere for whats acceptable behaviour in our society.
[–]mdcsd [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (0子コメント)
[+]RyzinEnagy スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 1時間前 (7子コメント)
Me too, and that's not "internet tough guy" talk. There's a LOT I'd let slide before I confront a stranger, but definitely not that.
[–]zombieHunterq8 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 1時間前 (6子コメント)
Id rather call the cops and ruin that guys future financial outlook....actually no, not over an animal.
[–]DJRES [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Humans are animals, though.
[+]zombieHunterq8 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 56分前 (0子コメント)
No, they're not.
[+]Transcriber3 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 1時間前 (3子コメント)
You don't love your pet.
[–]zombieHunterq8 [スコア非表示] 56分前 (2子コメント)
I've never been able to "love" an animal as I would "love" a human. I care about my pets/animals, but when they die, I don't get emotion, I'm just like "fuck, gotta throw away the corpse and I don't wanna touch that shit".
I've never had a pet for an extended amount of time though, but even if I did and let's say some asshole kicked it or somethin, I would take offense that he hurt something of MINE and not so much that he attacked the damn dog. Like 80/20 possession:animal. I'm just not that sort of "animal lover" I guess.
[–]keep_it_civil [スコア非表示] 29分前 (1子コメント)
Sounds like you're incapable of love.
[–]imoutofsmokes [スコア非表示] 8分前 (0子コメント)
Or maybe not all of us love animals like that. I love my family and friends just fine. I'm not gonna hurt any of their animals, or any other animal for that matter. I do like animals, I just don't want one of the fucking things. I'd rather not have to pick cat or dog hair off of my clothes all day long.
They're super adorable in all the videos of them knocking someones 50" tv over.
I do have some fish though, probably because they don't lose their shit and start scratching up windows and doors when the wind changes direction or a neighbor checks their mail.
[–]EM12 [スコア非表示] 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Same. Hurt my dog and I'll bury you
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