Russia unblocked reddit after takedown request compliance

PostNationalism · 3分前

Aaron Swartz was interviewed about his thoughts on google doing this very thing in China:

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-05-07-n78.html

Were you surprised when Google announced they enter China, with all the censorship compromises that brings?

Yes, I think it was quite disappointing. I wasn’t as surprised as many commentators, but I wasn’t very happy about it.

The old Google would have said “We don’t compromise on free speech” and started investing in software like Tor so that people in China could reach whatever web sites they pleased.

Now they’ve also added a self-censored Google Maps search, image search, books search and so on... and the censorship in some of these is very implicit (e.g. they don’t even add international publishers to the book search on Google.cn). What do you think is the right reaction from people to online censorship?

I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug – that we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back – both politically through protest and technologically through software like Tor. (Tor is a program that allows for completely anonymous Internet use, by routing your traffic through dozens of other machines.)

But most technology makers today seem to go a different route. They compromise, and they might defend this compromise by saying it will bring greater freedom in the long run. What do you say to this argument?

How is compromising supposed to bring greater freedom in the long run? That’s like saying “I’m going to beat you up now so that you don’t have to be hit as much in the long run.” The right answer is to stop beating people up.

http://bits.are.notabug.com

We are past the slippery slope, Reddit is falling off a censorship cliff.

IMissSplashyPants · 11分前

Pings stop working after 3 mentions in a single comment.

I've already asked kn0thing for clarification without response, spez has been pinged as well.

/u/krispykrackers /u/powerlanguage and /u/weffey are probably your best bets at getting some sort of response on this.

The post to /r/chillingeffects literally added no new information beyond admitting that YES, reddit has capitulated to the demands of foreign governments to restrict content.

reddit · 13分前

Multireddits are not affected:

https://www.reddit.com/user/politicbot/m/gasthesnoo (NSFW)

My tor exit node is currently german and I can see the /r/watchpeopledie posts fine.

reddit · 15分前

With the first link, the chain is forged

reddit · 17分前

Yeah maybe they could default to transparency

IMissSplashyPants · 22分前

https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/9cm4b/fuck_sears_they_forced_reddit_to_remove_a_post/

IMissSplashyPants · 24分前

Because /u/spez doesn't give a shit about free-speech.

Fuck reddit

reddit · 31分前

Now reddit is censoring this thread as well.

Good job guys!

https://twitter.com/sult/status/263737069891878912

amnonymous · 38分前

CHAD_J_THUNDERCOCK · 54分前

Correction: REDDIT has banned /r/watchpeopledie in germany.

McDouggal · 1時間前

/u/deimorz is almost certainly under an NDA for something like that.

I'm disappointed, but I don't want him to lose his job over something like that.

reddit · 1時間前

https://www.reddit.com/r/censorhate+watchpeopledie/comments/3guqoe/so_this_sub_apparently_got_banned_nationwide_in/

McDouggal · 1時間前

You caved to paypal in that brokered deal over voat's paypal being pulled, but this is just stupid.

Um, elaborate?

AssuredlyAThrowAway · 1時間前

Aaron Swartz was interviewed about his thoughts on google doing this very thing in China:

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-05-07-n78.html

Were you surprised when Google announced they enter China, with all the censorship compromises that brings?

Yes, I think it was quite disappointing. I wasn’t as surprised as many commentators, but I wasn’t very happy about it.

The old Google would have said “We don’t compromise on free speech” and started investing in software like Tor so that people in China could reach whatever web sites they pleased.

Now they’ve also added a self-censored Google Maps search, image search, books search and so on... and the censorship in some of these is very implicit (e.g. they don’t even add international publishers to the book search on Google.cn). What do you think is the right reaction from people to online censorship?

I think all censorship should be deplored. My position is that bits are not a bug – that we should create communications technologies that allow people to send whatever they like to each other. And when people put their thumbs on the scale and try to say what can and can’t be sent, we should fight back – both politically through protest and technologically through software like Tor. (Tor is a program that allows for completely anonymous Internet use, by routing your traffic through dozens of other machines.)

But most technology makers today seem to go a different route. They compromise, and they might defend this compromise by saying it will bring greater freedom in the long run. What do you say to this argument?

How is compromising supposed to bring greater freedom in the long run? That’s like saying “I’m going to beat you up now so that you don’t have to be hit as much in the long run.” The right answer is to stop beating people up.

http://bits.are.notabug.com

We are past the slippery slope, Reddit is falling off a censorship cliff.

McDouggal · 1時間前

Deimorz has given up on making reddit a better place by bringing it back to its anti-censorship, reader directed roots.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Oppression/comments/39ns54/udeimorz_on_countermeasures/cs4xqjo

IMissSplashyPants · 1時間前

Reddit voluntarily capitulated to foreign authoritarian governments and is 403'ing objectionable content locally:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChillingEffects/comments/3gw9g1/2015813_ip_blocks/

28DansLater · 1時間前

I love how they literally added no more information beyond "we do what we want"

reddit · 1時間前

But you can't tell the subscribers that don't know that how to do it.

reddit · 1時間前

NSFW: http://snew.github.io/#/nsfa

That's a live stream of all the nsfw content on reddit. Suck it German Government.

reddit · 1時間前

at least stand up and openly say that you don't give a shit about free speech or individual rights to choose their own content.

/u/spez kind of already did:

Neither Alexis nor I created reddit to be a bastion of free speech

https://www.reddit.com/r/announcements/comments/3dautm/content_policy_update_ama_thursday_july_16th_1pm/

reddit · 2時間前

Друзья, совершайте суицид, это весело. Я пробовал и мне понравилось, завтра попробую еще раз

https://www.reddit.com/r/rudrugs/comments/3grm4d/tfw_you_are_the_reason_to_block_reddit_in_russia/cu1erlc

Come at me bro

reddit · 2時間前

смотреть Reddit умереть

reddit · 2時間前

Also: /r/censorhate+watchpeopledie works

reddit · 2時間前

Think of the children

IAmAnAnonymousCoward · 2時間前

But most technology makers today seem to go a different route. They compromise, and they might defend this compromise by saying it will bring greater freedom in the long run. What do you say to this argument?

How is compromising supposed to bring greater freedom in the long run? That’s like saying “I’m going to beat you up now so that you don’t have to be hit as much in the long run.” The right answer is to stop beating people up.

http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-05-07-n78.html

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