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[–]GADBabaganoosh 73ポイント74ポイント  (2子コメント)

I care about black lives, not blacklivesmatter. I care about breast cancer, not the Susan g komen foundation

[–]PopWhatMagnitude 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After seeing people saying they represent the movement berate Bernie Sanders I don't care to listen to them at all anymore.

I stand for equality with any group that is forced to seek it out. But I can no longer get behind their message.

[–]YesIamGod -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

What you're essentially saying is: "I'm not racist, and black lives do matter, somewhat, to me but theres no way I'm investing any time or effort into this "Movement." Honestly most of us have more important things to worry about or invest time in... At least theres where I'm at.

[–]kittens_in_mittens_ 56ポイント57ポイント  (5子コメント)

As someone from Seattle where probably a total of 12 people are constantly shutting shit down "protesting" I have moved from not caring to actively disliking them

[–]OPERATIONALOPERATOR1 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm still at not caring. That noise hasn't come to Texas yet

[–]rhayward 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

They'd probably get shot in Texas.

Wait...

[–]stillnoturday 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought it was hilarious when they tried to start something with the Sandra Bland thing, but all the people that stoke the race fires are too scared to come to Texas.

So it turned out they reviewed the tape, cop did nothing wrong, no one killed her, she killed herself because she knew she lost her job/housing arragnement because she wanted to kick a cop.

[–]puppykinghenrik 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seattle has a special way of taking a reasonable cause and making you fucking despise it.

[–]Shakespearean_Rumba 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You should always ignore the message of groups that annoy you. They never have anything of worth to say. Just go with your gut instinct to totally dismiss their concerns because their tactics are irritating.

[–]ylurt 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not caring about black lives and not caring about #blacklivesmatter are completely different things. I agree with OP.

[–]JimmyRUDEjam 20ポイント21ポイント  (2子コメント)

If I didn't go on Reddit I'd probably never hear about this so-called movement.

[–]nexxusoftheuniverse 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

same here. saw some memes yesterday, had to look that shit up.

[–]KidCasey 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I see people say this a lot. But don't a lot of people get their news from reddit? If I didn't use it, I would hear about them from some other site I would use to stay informed.

[–]Backpacks_Got_Jets 33ポイント34ポイント  (29子コメント)

#blacklivesmatterdontmatter

[–]faded_jester 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I care more about having police be accountable for their actions. Doesn't matter what color the skin of their victims are to me.

[–]Erutious 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

So I'm a little late to the cluster f...I mean discussion but I have an honest question.

Why don't all lives matter? Every time I see Black Lives Matter on a bill board or a reddit thread or a tshirt I wonder what exactly the poster or wearer thinks the message means. Are they saying that ONLY black lives matter? Are they saying that Black Lives Matter more than white lives or Latino lives or any other form of life? If a black person is killed in a shooting along side a white person, a gay person, a person of Muslim faith, and a small Latino boy then how is the life of that black person more valuable than the lives of others who died?

Why not just say LIVES Matter? Black lives, white lives, Asian lives, Latino Lives, gay lives, atheist lives, Christian lives, ALL LIVES. Why can't they all matter?

[–]nowombatnocry 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://www.reddit.com/comments/3du1qm/

Top answer gives an excellent explanation to your point.

[–]silfish101 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm struggling with this one a bit. If I say All Lives Matter, I mean it to the effect of EVERYONE deserves basic human rights...equally. To comment on the analogy from that post, when the person is skipped during the meal and says they want their fair share and the dad says EVERYONE deserves their fair share...well yes. By saying all lives matter, I expect that no one got skipped during meal time. I shouldn't have to separate my support of communities by saying Native American Lives Matter, Native Alaskan Lives Matter, Latino Lives Matter, White Lives Matter, so on and so forth. I want everyone to be included and everyone be afforded basic human rights.

[–]rczeien 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because when a friend tells you about how they are hurting, you don't make it about you, even if you have problems too.

[–]Harukiller14 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's not that they're saying only black lives matter, they're saying Black Lives Matter (too) for whatever reason people don't understand that. Whether you agree with this or not, people within the black community don't feel their lives matter as much as the lives of other races. They're not bringing others down, they're trying to raise themselves up. Obviously the movement Black Lives Matter has had a negative spin because a lot of people are taking advantage of protesting to cause trouble and riot, but that's a different discussion.

[–]GinGimlet 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I keep seeing this point on reddit, but of the thousands of people involved in BLM where is the evidence that they are just causing trouble and rioting? Three people interrupt Bernie Sanders and now all of a sudden the whole movement is trash?

[–]Saidir 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Vocal minorities make quiet majorities look stupid. Whatever event/group gets the screentime sets the public perception of them.

[–]Harukiller14 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I said it was a different discussion because I could already sense the reddit brigade getting ready to throw videos of black people rioting in Missouri into my inbox. They act like this is the first movement to have extremists and such and that the MLK protests never got ugly. I think the Black lives Matter movement is fine and I think we should applaud them for fighting what should be common sense by now. That being said, the bad apples can't be ignored and should be weeded and thrown out.

[–]ProN00b 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because it's not saying non black lives don't matter, but black lives do too. You have to be willfully ignoring the context to say you don't understand why it's not saying other lives matter less.

[–]Grimlokh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black lives matter TOO.

we all know white lives matter, but its taken a TON of unarmed black men and women to be killed for us to realize that they matter too!

All lives matter indeed, but Lumping BLM in with everyone else is ignoring the glaringly unequal rate of which blacks are killed by police.

[–]Richter26 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Im from Canada, where everyone just shuts the F up and gets along. Its a shame that people need to take sides on things like this. I always thought it was common sense to not be a hater, or to push your opinions into other peoples faces. Terrible things happen to everybody. Dont use it as an excuse to start a bigger problem

Edit: sorry if this is offensive to anyone

[–]Y_dilligaf -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You would be sorry lol

[–]Y_dilligaf -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

You would be sorry lol

[–]ujheisenburg94 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

All this hate is coming because they went after Bernie

[–]gbimmer 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

All hail Bernie.

[–]sorryjzargo 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

*a few of them went after Bernie

[–]Addicte 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well the looting and rioting didn't help much either

[–]GinGimlet -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus fuck, are you serious? Some people looted and rioted, while the overwhelming majority did not. Is that really a reason to dismiss the entire movement?

[–]HottBiscuit 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reddit has become oddly racist lately; where'd all this hate come from?

[–]TapRackBoom 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont care either. I take the Detective Callahan approach to it. Same way I wouldnt care if a white lives matter movement happened. How about every life doesn't matter? Ultimately when the human species dies off, none of us would matter anymore.

[–]JustWanderful 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This meme doesn't surprise me. I'm surprised I haven't seen it sooner.

Let’s face it. Urban black culture is failing. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white racism. The fundamental problem is that urban American black culture has evolved into an unfixable and crime ridden mess.

Blacks do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the racism of others - but by their own hatred of basic American values: school, work, & family responsibility.

Our government doesn’t seem to understand just how tired the white population is of this crap. They don’t understand that white people aren’t out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them.

They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity.

The elites explain everything with racism, but the truth is that white frustration has pretty much reached the point where it's turning to apathy. They’re saying, “I just don’t have any more fucks to give.”

[–]LaLongueCarabine -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was a joke from the beginning and it has carried that tradition on

[–]fanboygoggles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would downvote you, but I don't care that you don't care about that. Honestly, I don't care either. Meh...

[–]selfish_liberal -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just a touch of casual racism and reddit craps its pants with excitement.

[–]filterbing -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm confident that obeying the law and cooperating with police is the best way to avoid being shot/choked by the police. Regardless of color. I'm not concerned with what happens when this advice is ignored. Regardless of color.

[–]Grimlokh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

People STILL die when complying. some Police STILL Lie about what happened, even if they comply.

[–]edge0576 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

The truth is; if this was a movement based on equality, the slogan would be #livesmatter. This is not the case. I absolutely hate this movement. I do, however, like the video from ferguson the other day with the interstate protest. The only person to get slammed by cops was a white guy and the pansyass protesters started to disperse while the police were walking up. No damn backbone. They are doing their movement in wrong, illegal, and adding to that, they don't even fully believe on their cause as it is. They have become a menace to the lives the rest of us live on a daily basis.

[–]sorryjzargo -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

here, read the top comment https://www.reddit.com/comments/3du1qm/

[–]edge0576 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im a Whovian agnostic. #nolivesmatter

[–]edge0576 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I get that. But as racism always has, and still does, in fact, in videos of the current protests, black people are forcibly pushing whites away. Videos that show statements of the sort: "you arent black you have NO right here". Now, in these videos, the words are much more harsh and come along with threats of physical violence. This is not right for an equality movement. I see how there could be an implied "too" at the end, but there is also the implied " white lives dont" there. This is especially evident in the bernie sanders videos and other protest videos. If you want to say "my life matters like yours", then do it. When you mention any race, you automatically exclude others. Man up and say lives matter. Man up and say our lives matter. Anything else and you are putting others down. You continue the racism.

I dont think of myself as racist, but damn folks, every fucking time i see or hear a race card pull, i cant help but hate the jackass that does it. By pulling that particular card, you yourself are allowing a continuation of racism and doing it yourself. Theres a joke about the vertically challenged that isnt a joke; until the shorty asks if it was a short joke... It wasnt, but fucking thanks for making me laugh at the joke i missed (until you pointed it out).

[–]Grimlokh 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No.

If you are seeing the race card pulled a lot and don't stop to think that maybe it is because of race(Especially when 3 separate DOJ reports confirm that), but instead just hate those people... then you ARE racist.

[–]spinaltaps -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, what a cutting edge stance on something that's been openly opposed on Reddit the past several days. You really poured your heart out.

[–]axelsyr -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Basically I just think the movement would make more sense if it was ALL lives matter. Not just black.

[–]Grimlokh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But there is the inherit problem. The name comes from the thought that some people need to be reminded, not that They exclusively matter, but they matter too. Everyone knows White lives matter and police lives matter, but it took us YEARS to care about unarmed black men.

[–]Cokrates -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love that if you say all lives matter your a bigot who doesn't understand the struggle of african americans, if you support their movement as a white male you're still a racist craving acceptance. I will tell you something though. If bernie sanders comes no my town one day and some black lives matter people try to stop him from speaking in taking off my shoe and beating them to sleep.

[–]cis_attack_helicopte -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, when are we going to move on from this sham? #helicopterlivesmatter

[–]TerryTerrorist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one does really.