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[–]thiasus 130ポイント131ポイント  (22子コメント)

He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

It's one of the clearest examples of how women have no empathy for betas that they genuinely can not see why a beta would be hurt that she did double anal with nipple clamps with Chad and wouldn't blow Beta because that's gross. And it's not a pretension, they genuinely don't understand it because they don't take a beta's sexual needs into any consideration.

[–]5 Endorsed ContributorStayinghereforreal 49ポイント50ポイント  (10子コメント)

Women "get it" instantly when they find out their current boyfriend/husband lavished gifts and exotic trips on the last LTR the man had, and proudly took the former LTR home to the parents, but now won't bother texting the new GF back the same day, let alone gifts, trips, and parental introductions.

They get the hurt and resentment real quick in that instance. Of course, they claim that it is "different", because opinion. But then, men and women value different actions in a different relative weighting scheme when in relationships.

Whatever. The rule at that sub and in the female mind generally is women can have preferences, deal breakers, standards, etc. Men are expected to be far more accepting of flaws and even outright misrepresentations when selecting their partners. Women have full agency when deciding whom to sleep with and marry. Men, by contrast, are expected to take what is offered, and partial disclosures and even lies are not to be held against females engaged in mate selection. Moreover, even asking about certain topics that men generally do care about is seen as improper. Reddit subs tend to reflect that oddball view of the world. /r/ relationships is particularly far down that rabbit hole, I think.

edit: man, why do I keep getting these messages that non-link references to the "relationships" sub is a prohibited link? Fix the bot, man.

[–]Modredpillschool 39ポイント40ポイント  (7子コメント)

Men are expected to be far more accepting of flaws and even outright misrepresentations when selecting their partners.

Women self-handicap to ensure compliance. For instance, ever notice how women brag about what should be negative traits?

"I'm bitchy, and hard to handle, so you better be ready for that..."

"I'm selfish, impatient and a little insecure. I make mistakes, I am out of control and at times hard to handle. But if you can't handle me at my worst, then you sure as hell don't deserve me at my best."

The understood context here is that women need to be handled. They need somebody to draw boundaries for them, or they'll push.

I mean, fuck, if I was car shopping, I wouldn't want the car that argues with me, I want the one that drives well with low mileage.

[–]2IVIaskerade 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

handled

But if you ever mention that that's how you treat your dog then my god will there be fireworks.

[–]__ZEAL__ 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

And not good fireworks. Defective ones that are super glued to your hands and dick.

[–]Stythe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I burst out laughing at this in a starbucks. Goddamnit man.

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    [–]Modredpillschool 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    A brief stint on okcupid, facebook, or basically any bar in a major US city, you'll see it.

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      [–]TheThingsIThink 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      that is a waste of time. Facebook is for reputation management. Expect prospective employers to view it. You can also praise your SO on there for great feelz.

      [–]unassumingusername7 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'm a different man now. All those diamonds and tropical vacations I bought my ex really helped me grow and mature as a person, but I'm past all that now.

      [–]the_number_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      edit: man, why do I keep getting these messages that non-link references to the "relationships" sub is a prohibited link? Fix the bot, man.

      It's Reddit / RES. It auto-generates internal site links if you type r/

      [–]Hoodwink 24ポイント25ポイント  (9子コメント)

      And it's not a pretension, they genuinely don't understand it because they don't take a beta's sexual needs into any consideration.

      Or emotional needs. Other than the words they'll say which is usually nothing but courtesy.

      [–]thefinn12345 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Agree with both of you. Had this same experience with a few women in fact.

      [–]Hoodwink 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

      There was a recent askhamsters thread with a comment that said 'respect' is needed before 'love' can be achieved. It's entirely true for both sexes (but different types of respect based on the sexes with different variables emphasized).

      There is a lot of ugliness of how modern women judge 'respect' for a man. It's entirely dysfunctional for any 'respectful' relationship. It's no wonder women put lovers and providers into two entirely separate categories.

      [–]RasAllGhul 29ポイント30ポイント  (6子コメント)

      Im a natural alpha that has been married for a 11 years. (I just found this place and find the insights into the female mind extraordinary. Im new to all the terminology and shit, but Im pretty sure Im a natural alpha.) I have a wonderful relationship with my wife that has had its ups and downs as all marriages do. I really do like her, love her, and consider her my best friend. That being said, let me speak from experience:

      Even when you are a solid provider and are making bank like she never could on her own, even when you pay for her car, pay for her fucking vacations and every piece of clothing on her back, for her to RESPECT you, you have to be willing to drop her at a moments notice and walk out the door.

      If there is one thing I have learned in my life, its that women have no respect for any man who needs them, and for you to be able to OWN her RESPECT, she has to know deep in heart that if she left you tonight youd be balls deep in some guts before the weekend.

      If at any time you ever let her know that you love her unconditionally, that you would support her thru anything or that you put her on any sort of emotional pedestal she will IMMEDIATELY sense this like a shark senses blood in the water and gobble you up like the weak beta bait-fish that you are.

      The trick to making your woman respect you, is without ever actually saying the words, she has to know without a doubt that YOU provide for her.

      If you want to share some good feelings with someone, if you want to open your heart up to a lifelong friend and tell them your innermost fears and weaknesses get a fucking dog. You can only project a rock solid frame at all times to your woman. Any vibration in the frame or any apparent cracks in its strength and it will set off a series of vibrations in her social hamster like a spider web warning its maker dinner is on the line.

      This bitch in the original post is a standard slut. She rode the CC hit her wall and now she has to pay for it. Maybe her husband knew this. Maybe he got tired of fucking her and used a polygraph into tricking her she was about to have to reveal the truth. Maybe her man knew polygraphs where a joke, bitches are stupid enough to believe they work, and he was strong enough to use it as a filter before he let this hooker have access to his credit cards.

      [–]the_Zambony 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      for her to RESPECT you, you have to be willing to drop her at a moments notice and walk out the door.

      Truth.

      When my girlfriend and I were contemplating marriage, she asked the question, "What if something happens between us and we don't work out?"

      My reply, "You can have everything that we have, all I want is my backpack, my sleeping bag, and my dog that I came into this relationship with. I will walk away and you will never hear from me again."

      Yeah, we have our share of problems, but respect is not one of them.

      [–]little_england 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Out of interest why do you think your wife is your best friend when male friends would help you more if shit hit the fan? I am not trying to attack you at all, I am just interested in hearing some prospective from a married reader.

      I cannot love a women knowing her love is so fickle, and can diminish overnight. I respect you for holding proper frame for 11 years I just don't know how someone could do what you describe for so long knowing the true nature of women. Why do the pro's outweigh the con's for you?

      [–]RasAllGhul 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Out of interest why do you think your wife is your best friend when male friends would help you more if shit hit the fan?

      She has proven herself to be a soldier on more than one occasion, and though she has dropped the ball a few times, shes on my team no matter what, even when her emotions have her all fucked up. Ill explain this in detail below.

      I am not trying to attack you at all, I am just interested in hearing some prospective from a married reader.

      Married does not always mean beta. In my relationship my wife is the beta with a strong predilection for trying to bottom top me, which I find amusingly adorable. I like a challenge. If I wanted a sheepish mouse, Id fuck a sheepish mouse of a girl. I like the challenge.

      So here is the deal. To understand my statement, you have to understand my situation, so in a condensed nutshell, here goes:

      I was raised a Jehovah's Witness in the Bible belt of Midwest America. I always knew growing up I was an alpha stuck in a society that prided itself on being beta, and I never fit in. When I was finally kicked out of the church I was set loose in the world with no idea how social politics and power jockeying amongst people worked, and I got socially raped for it over and over.

      I learned the hard way that women and men both are weak, insecure self pleasing machines that are slaves to a whole list of ape-like desires for power, resources and social dominance. After being bit by the world a few times I eventually learned one of the mantras you TRP guys teach young betas trying to rise up without anyone explaining it to me: fuck you, you are all alone.

      Having 0 family because it was stripped of me by a religious cult that worships death, I realized how alone I was at a ridiculously young age. No mom, dad, brothers, sisters, cousins, nephews, nieces, aunts, uncles or grand parents. To them all, I was dead.

      I wandered thru life from the age of 18 to about 30 just trying on new pussies like I was changing my socks. I didnt care about hos at all, and just used them like wet holes to jack off in and then dispose of. After all, so what if you just sucked my cock after I took you out to dinner and a movie? What are we family now? Sheiiiit, I havent talked to my mom or my dad in 15 years, and you think blowing me makes you special? Nexxxxxxxxxt!

      After over a decade of this, when I was just turning 30, I met this one chick. She was 19, and that pussy was to die for. Im not kidding boys, my wife looks exactly like Linda Carter in her Wonder Woman years. Every time I introduce her to guy friends, dudes are like "wtf, how did a big ol redneck outlaw Harley biker like you hook up with HER? Whats your secret bro?!" By this time in my life I knew that she was young and needed training, but she kind of gravitated towards my alpha mindset and readily accepted me in the "dominant" role. After all, she turned 20 in my bedroom with my cock inside her, so basically I got her young enough to still shape her.

      Now, as an adult male, I realize that a woman can only be a woman. It is her nature to do this.

      When my wife was 25, she cheated on me. I took her back in, but instead of putting her on a pedestal I skull fucked her in her brain like a bad, disobedient child or dog until she came back to me begging for my forgiveness. When she begged me to forgive her, and had spent months trying to earn my trust back, I sat her down and explained to her what I expected from her, and what the rules of being my wife are from now on. Making sure to keep the conversation calm and devoid of emotion, I said, and Im not even bullshitting:

      "When I met you, you where 19 years old, and as a 30 year old man I knew that you still had some learning to do. I accepted that challenge when I met you and agreed to let you move into my house. Now we have crossed a corssroads in the road though, and I need you to understand my position. I understand that you have primal desires and see other men sexually. I do it to women too, everyone does it. I understand that sometimes all a person can think about is some strange sex partner to do new shit with, that is human nature. But if you are to remain in my house and in my life, you will control those urges like I do, and be strong even when it hurts, like I do. Otherwise Im going to pack up the closet full of clothes I bought you, put it in the car I bought you, fill the tank full of gas and ship you back across the country to your mothers house with your tail tucked between your legs. I expect you to hold me to this rule as well. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander as they say. I can not ever offer you a second chance, but this first infraction I will forgive you for. We all have to learn when we fall down, thats what life is. Whats important is how you learn from that mistake, and how you choose to behave once youve learned lifes lesson."

      BAM!

      She tightened her shit up, learned her lesson and is still here.

      When a man has no family, he treats the family he does have with care. Just because we as men have the capacity to be an asshole does not mean we dont have to temper that power with rational common sense and life experience. So she fucked up. Ive fucked up.

      Of course women love to ride the CC. Of course women love to be admired, chased and fawned over. Wouldn't any man? Isn't that what everyone is doing on this board? (trying to stack the deck in his favor so he can have the same social privilege that women have in the sexual market place?)

      Im not a slave to holding onto this relationship because its the only one in my life, literally, but I am not quick to discard it either. It is very hard to find any person in this life to choose YOU over a better resource, and she chose to try to make it work with me over a better, easier free ride on someone elses dick. So be it, she got 1 more chance, and I made sure she understood it was only 1.

      I cannot love a women knowing her love is so fickle, and can diminish overnight. I respect you for holding proper frame for 11 years I just don't know how someone could do what you describe for so long knowing the true nature of women.

      For me, in my life, I believe women are like children and dogs. You dont kick your dog out of your life when it shits on your floor, you correct it with some bass in your voice so it knows your not bullshitting. When your dog growls at you in defiance, you gently alpha up, make some eye contact and make sure it does exactly what you commanded, when you commanded it. This is a dogs nature. It WANTS to please you. It WANTS you to lead it. It WANTS you to be in charge.

      How can that dog know that shitting on the floor is a hard boundary unless you explain it over and over until it understands?

      IMHO the real test of manhood is not how do you bed women in a higher social bracket than you are, but how do you keep that pussy in line once you own it. Some men do it with violence or belligerence because they are weak and need to synth the alpha vibe with physical posturing and bravado, but real men, real frame holding big dicked man monkeys rule the house with a look, a feeling, and as few spoken words as necessary to clearly state where your line in the sand is.

      How do I love her even though shes fickle? I love my dog, and it might just run away and never come home one day. So be it. It was good times while we where together sure, but whats important was what did I learn from the experience? How to hold frame during the episode, during the resolution of the episode, and if neccesary after shes gone.

      [–]MentORPHEUS 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Excellent, this story deserves its own post. I'd give you a Mars symbol for it if I could.

      It's easy for the Keyboard Alphas to just say, "Next the bitch," but few have offered such a solid example of how a true Alpha can bring this type of situation back from the brink. I wonder how many of the "find a young virgin and train her" types will handle this highly likely scenario compared to you.

      [–]RasAllGhul 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I ate a lot of shit to get that strong.

      Remember, always be prepared to "next the bitch" and make sure she knows it, but never, ever let her know its the last option you want to use. In fact, she should almost be a little bit worried you might whip it out first if she pushes you to far.

      [–]SCROTAL-SACK 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Agreed. It is NOT worth all that work and concentrated effort to keep a grown up child around the house happy. Fuck marriage. Fuck them till you're tired of them, or until they're passed their sell-by date. Then bin them.

      [–]MattyAnon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's one of the clearest examples of how women have no empathy for betas that they genuinely can not see why a beta would be hurt that she did double anal with nipple clamps with Chad and wouldn't blow Beta because that's gross.

      Oh they know.... that's why they lie about it.

      But there is also a definite expecation that Billy Beta should be happy with the scraps he gets.... even while lying to him that of course he's the best lay she's ever had, and the first.

      [–]Modredpillschool 47ポイント48ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating.

      Two things to note: Free spirit equates to slut. Every time you hear free spirit, remember, it means slut.

      Number two: taking time to "travel." Traveling means discovering exotic cocks to suck and fuck. It will literally never mean anything else. This is women taking pleasure at their raw sexual market value. Not investing it like you expect a prudent man would with a windfall, by the way, but spending it casually for cheap thrills.

      Any time a girl takes time to travel, that is what it means.

      A question I also tend to ask myself, where did this young early twenties girl get enough scratch to just vacation in europe for an entire year?

      It's either a man paying for her slutquest (father or boyfriend) or it's student loans, in which case it will be a man paying for it. (future boyfriend, beta bucks).

      [–]bluedrygrass 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Number two: taking time to "travel." Traveling means discovering exotic cocks to suck and fuck. It will literally never mean anything else.

      True. Women doesn't seem to really care about different landscapes, cultures, buildings, whatever. Not when they're young at leadt, and not without their actual partner being interested in it (thus absorbing the partner's interests and ideas)

      Those things are impersonal, cold. What women really love is to socialize, and to do the most "stimulating" of the socialization things, taking a cock in the vagina, in the mouth, touching pecs, etc.

      [–]vys1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's sad because most of the time it's a beta male provider who is allowing these women to have such finances, and I'm willing to bet that this case is no different. One day they'll learn, but only after their wallet is empty...

      [–]Vigilo_Infinite 40ポイント41ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Some of the replies on this post are disgusting. People are flat out telling her to lie and how what might matter to Barry simply isn't his business.

      There are quite a few sane replies on there about her dishonesty and how she should tell him, especially as she knows it will matter to him, so there's that.

      [–]fake7272 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

      the ones informing her how to get out of it are hilarious. "you lied to your fiance, but dont let him know the truth. its none of his business"

      Gender flip time! if a dude was lying to his GF about ANYTHING r/relationships would flip shit and go crazy about how he is the worst person ever.

      [–]Moolg86 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just goes to show how ruthless the rest of the world is willing to be to make their ends meet.

      [–]vys1 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Welcome to r/relationships. I hope you enjoy your stay. We are fully fleshed out with the highest quality feminists and beta males on reddit.

      [–]redpillersinparis 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

      He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total)

      8 partners is a lot less than her count...

      [–]ryan_schlueter 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

      She says in the comments in the 30's. I think it's funny alot of the comments say a polygraph, that's crazy I can't believe he doesn't trust you.

      Uh ... It's less than 50. In the 30s.

      [–]IsItJustified 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      A reformed slut can happen but I'd rather put stock in pictures of Bigfoot being genuine first. Like with any woman pretend to be open about sexuality and non-judgmental so maybe you can get a more realistic number. 5 is iffy and more is approaching plate only status

      [–]redpillliger 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

      One ray of sunshine for fiancee: she came clean and the wedding's off. Always makes me happy to see a man stand up for himself and not cave in the face of the "numbers don't matter" bullshit

      [–]OzymandiasRP 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      It seems as though that post was removed, do you happen to have an archive link so I can read?

      [–]redpillliger 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Unfortunately it was locked and removed before I got there. From what I can glean from the comments, she attempted to downplay her number and it backfired massively.

      He got upset and asked how many? I told him the number didn't matter, it was the fact that I lied that I was feeling guilty about. He agreed it was disturbing to him, but he wanted to know how many men.

      I tried to tell him it wasn't the issue, but he wasn't listening. He got a little angry. He doesn't shout or use a lot of profanity but I could tell he was very upset by his face. He said it was important to him to know. I told him it was important to me that it wouldn't have an impact on our relationship.

      Gotta love how the hamster tried to pull the "okay, I'll tell you but it better not affect anything" card. Sure, let's just overlook that you've lied for the last 3 years. Easy as pie

      [–]MightyTaint 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I like how she tries to tell him what the issue really is. As if she can dictate what should be important to him and what he cares about. Jesus Christ the entitlement.

      [–]MightyTaint 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      "Fiancee" means female. "Fiance" means male.

      [–]pastillarouge 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

      For anyone who cares or is interested, she posted a follow up... here it is quoted.

      I [31f] came clean with my [34m] fiancee. Good news: Polygraph test is off. Bad news: So is the wedding.

      submitted by ___________

      First of all thanks to everyone who was supportive and had good advice and kind words for me. Even those of you who were rude and mean ended up adding to my decision to discuss this with Barry last night. We were at a very nice bar/restaurant for drinks with friends, and once they left Barry and I got a booth and had a late dinner. I was only a little buzzed, 2 vodka martinis in 3 hours. I didn't know how else to bring it up without sounding sneaky, so I just came out with something like "I'm concerned about the poly." He got a little concerned and asked why. I told him that I had fibbed when we first met and never bothered to correct it. He asked what about. I told him it was the number of men I'd been intimate with. That's when things started to go badly. He got upset and asked how many? I told him the number didn't matter, it was the fact that I lied that I was feeling guilty about. He agreed it was disturbing to him, but he wanted to know how many men. I tried to tell him it wasn't the issue, but he wasn't listening. He got a little angry. He doesn't shout or use a lot of profanity but I could tell he was very upset by his face. He said it was important to him to know. I told him it was important to me that it wouldn't have an impact on our relationship. He told me that something like this is going to have an impact on the relationship because he feels like I deceived him for the last few years. I was crying at that point. We talked for a long time and he tried to explain his position and why he was so mad. I told him I understood why he was mad, I just wanted to come clean with him before we got to the poly. It was a rough night. We talked until the bar closed. He wanted to know exactly how many men and who they were. He said that it didn't matter much if we were just dating, but he needed to know who his wife was before he married her. I tried to explain that I was a much different person back then but he didn't want to hear about that. He didn't feel he could trust me now and said don't worry about the poly. He wants to postpone things until he can think about them, including the wedding. He finally put me in a cab home and said he'd call me tomorrow (today). I was a wreck all night and didn't get much sleep. I'm mad at him but I'm more mad at myself for putting myself in this position. I'm heartbroken that I've hurt a good man and messed up a great relationship. I've left him four messages so far today but I haven't heard anything from him. I woke up on the couch in my clothes from last night, called work and told them I was taking the day, and I'm heading for the shower and bed, now. I thought I would update all of you who were concerned aout what happened. I'll check back later and see what you have to say. I don't know how long Ill use this account. I feel a little humiliated and exposed but iits also been great getting everyone's feedback and advice. Thanks. tl;dr: Told my finacee about my past. He's pissed at me for lying and called off the wedding for now. I'm a miserable wreck and hate myself for screwing this up and now want to sleep for two years and wake up with everything back the way it was.

      For her, she reaps what she sows. For you take heed and don't get married.

      [–]mushyz 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

      I hope this happens more often. It's the only way to change behaviour

      [–]trpiece 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Don't bank on stuff like this happening very often. How many prenups ask for a poly test?

      [–]mushyz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      i meant i hope more guys start walking away from whores

      [–]MightyTaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There shouldn't be any prenups, because they're shouldn't be any nups. Fuck marriage.

      [–]commentatorX 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

      my usual answer

      If this piece is real - this implies her answer varies on how she feeeeels, when she is asked, and who is asking her.

      [–]max_peenor 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

      [–]Losealittlealot 282 points 16 hours ago So..why not talk to him before the polygraph. permalink

      [–]SeekingHEA[S] 27 points 16 hours ago That's what I'm thinking. We're supposed to have drinks with friends tonight after work. I might bring it up with him then.

      By all that is holy in the universe, I pray there is an update post.

      [–]This_is_my_work_face 118 points 15 hours ago Also, have you considered not marrying a man who you fear is incapable of loving the person you are?

      He's incapable of loving a cheating slut. He should be not marrying her, not the other way around.

      [–]MightyTaint 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Typical hamstering. They know she'll likely get dumped, so they're already hamstering how she really left him for being a big meanie.

      [–]jaredschaffer27 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The obvious stuff jumped out at me, of course. But this is interesting:

      "My motivation was to protect the inheritance I'm anticipating from my grandmother (a family farm of about 50 acres) and my parent's home, when they eventually pass. There's also some jewelry and antique china and other things I would never want to lose. It's not a lot, compared to Barry's holdings, but it's mine and I would never want anything to happen to it."

      Anticipating............."It's not a lot, but it's mine". The shit her not even dead relatives MAY give her in the future is already hers.

      [–]cyphers_steak 75ポイント76ポイント  (17子コメント)

      Looks like a big pile of bullshit.

      "A degree in fashion merchandising.. My usual answer of 5..
      only cheated twice.. free spirit.. made some mistakes.. explored my sexuality and discovered myself".

      It's one of these _r/relationships stories that reads like a redpill bingo card and that causes me to doubt its veracity.

      [–]WAFC 37ポイント38ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Those things are TRP cliches for a reason.

      [–]thiasus 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The degree in fashion merchandising isn't even a cliche. It's a marketing degree in a 250 billion dollar industry that's not ever going to be made obsolete by technology or automation. It's a solid gig if you are serious about it.

      [–]A_Roasted_Peanut[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I wouldn't be surprised if it is. This is the internet; there's a lot of it around. Take everything with a large pinch of salt.

      Even if the story is bullshit, that doesn't mean there's nothing to learn from it, however. Responses can be illuminating, and the story elements do genuinely occur elsewhere. Fictional or not, if you can recognise and understand what's going on, that puts you in a far better place to pick up on it when it happens to you, or you see it in person.

      As an analogy, consider an exercise in a school class. Just because the problem is fictional, it doesn't mean you can't learn from it, and then apply that to the real world.

      [–]systemshock869 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Sorta like the rape story on The Rolling Stone? Lol except reading and believing a story like this is not at all like fucking someone's life completely over and publicizing it nationally, then downplaying that it was completely fabricated.

      Edit: The real value, despite the legitimacy of the story, is in the shitty replies from the dregs of humanity. Unless it's a huge TRP conspiracy and they're all in on it.

      [–]Reddthrown 18ポイント19ポイント  (1子コメント)

      That sub is like redpill fanfic. At least half the stories read like they were written by one of us.

      [–]the_number_2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The real question then becomes are the posts fake or have we studied female behavior enough to know that there are textbook examples of it all around us?

      [–]rmoviesok 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

      that sub is full of bullshit troll stories. I don't believe half of it.

      [–]Nebulose11 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      All well planned lies are surrounded by copious amounts of truth.

      [–]redpillersinparis 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Nice one, it does look like horse shit.

      [–]grimreaperx2 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I only counted LTRs since high school and the boy I lost my virginity to as "real" relationships, not the high school boys I fooled around with or the other guys I've met.

      Because no matter what you say your numbers do matter. Otherwise you would not be hamstering away as to your "real" number vs your actual.

      [–]thefisherman1961 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I agree, there's no way this is real. I refuse to believe it.

      [–]adultsareweird 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I was thinking the same. Obviously, stories like this abound in reality, but the writing style here is almost like the author is checking off boxes as they go: Let's include a bit about the past being the past... now a bit about not including flings in my partner count..."

      The responses are more informative than the original post. Of course, anyone not totally new to TRP should be across this stuff already.

      [–]putsch80 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You can tell it's a TRP troll post by this passage:

      I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

      [–]CS192837465 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Let's make a TRP bingo card to play along.

      [–]prodigyx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You don't believe it because it is such a textbook example?

      I can't follow that logic.

      [–]ManonIsland 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

      I dont understand this "the past doesn't matter" nonsense. Its like women think that the person they want to be or subjectively hope to be is who they actually are. They fail to realize that a person is defined by their actions. What we do in this life defines who we are. Doesn't matter you say, think, or aspire to. Thats not to say people can't change their attitudes or behavior.....But how can women not comprehend that no guy wants to marry some broad thats had 30 in the oven, 10 in the exhaust, and 25 in the smokestack?

      [–]mushyz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Because they think with their feelings

      [–]adultsareweird 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'd love to see a post in relationships about how the man won't accept her sexual past and get all those hamsters spinning in the comments. "That's your past. It's not who you are now!"

      And then reveal in a comment how she raped another woman as a part of a gang initiation. Watch everyone flip and the thread get locked.

      Not a troll; won't do it. But it would be hilarious.

      [–]1exit_sandman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I dont understand this "the past doesn't matter" nonsense.

      It's bluepill "logic".

      If nobody got hurt (physically or emotionally) by your actions, people don't have the right to be offended by them.

      An otherwise loyal and cautious woman who cheated once and then immediately branch swung is less relationship worthy to them than one who was FWBs with two dozen guys.

      [–]MightyTaint 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Women judge other's based on their actions, and themselves based on "intent".

      [–]babydocnorman 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I saw the update. Under the threat of a polygraph the woman came clean and admitted to fucking nearly 40 other guys after originally telling her fiance her N count was 5. Fiance called off the wedding. Good for him.

      In this case, the threat of running a HoeFax worked. We need to figure out how to commercialize this shit. Think of the possibilities.

      [–]the_crimson_pig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There should be an app for this.. $$$

      [–]Upvote_To_The_Left 17ポイント18ポイント  (7子コメント)

      this is more flamebat trolling. I really think somebody(s) from this subreddit is making random accounts and posting these fake stories to then have a jerk-off here.

      [–]GoldPisseR 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You still get the gist of women's reasoning in the comments though.

      [–]ferengiprophet 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Yeah especially when "she" said that she had only been with 5 partners and had only counted her LTRs. This is something straight from our sub.

      [–]the_number_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I don't know, I had a conversation with a group of girls last night that were coming up with all kinds of exceptions to partner-counts.

      [–]sedatedinsomniac 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The reactions in the comments are far more valuable than the post.

      [–]BattleDrillOneAlpha 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I find it funny that a lot of y'all are saying this is fake. Just because it gels with TRP well doesn't make it fake. There are definitely fake stories that get analyzed here, but I really don't think this is one of them.

      The reason this seems to fit into TRP stereotypes is because TRP made those stereotypes from an influx of situations like this one or similiar.

      [–]fundude1 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

      This story is too good to be true and totally TRP.

      I am a little suspect about them being so perfect. Are these real or just fake trolls?

      Regardless, Barry is right to get a polygraph. He should end the relationship ASAP since she lied about her sexual history.

      [–]PillersOfTheEarth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I thought so too. It ticks all the TRP boxes.

      But true or not, the important lesson for male readers is "DO NOT GET MARRIED", and if it helps save other men from making that disastrous mistake, then it's fine by me.

      [–]southpawshuffle 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The chick left this comment in her update post (in which the called off the wedding once she confessed to banging not 5...but 30 guys:

      "Barry told me that he didn't like the idea of having so many lovers in my past that we ran the chance of running into one at the airport. He was also upset when I told them that yes, some of them were technically better lovers and more well endowed than he was. That hurt him a lot. I didn't want to say that to him, but he insisted. It's apparently important to him."

      [–]GoldPisseR 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Why marry a 30+ woman in the first place?

      [–]battyryder 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      unfuckingbelievable, she strung him along and now she's going to land in the shit. even if this is bullshit, still lessons to be learned. do not get married, they will do anything to land a beta bucks. also looks like the wedding is off, haha

      [–]blacwidonsfw 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I read this thread. It is way too cliche to be real. But that's my opinion I could be wrong

      [–]the_crimson_pig 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Even if it's not true, guys have to learn to avoid chicks like this. They exist, and most of the time the guy who they fuck over is talking to a psychologist about it and being prescribed meds instead of sharing their stories with us.

      It's human nature to simply "use" weak-willed people whether you're a guy or a girl. I know a few folks I would consider to be pretty nice and well-mannered, and they talk poorly of people like this. Words like "tool" "pussy" "pushover" "doormat" etc.. are very commonly associated with them.

      It's important for red-pillers to learn "Don't be a Barry".

      [–]blacwidonsfw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It was interesting to see in the comments a majority of the opinions were related to how a lie detector is so over the top. Obviously not! The stupid bitch was lying this whole time so the lie detector test was absolutely doing what it was meant to do. Another example of how the hamster ignores logic and diverts their attention to the "feeling" of going through a lie detector is soooo uncalled for. Its fucking ridiculous.

      [–]IWillHaveVengance 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Saw that post yesterday and figured that it would end up on here. It sounds fake but oh my god the whitenighting and you go girl in that post gave me a good laugh.

      [–]red_barrister1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I had a plate attempt to hamster that she should "be appreciated as the sum total of her attributes and not deconstructed exclusively into the purity of her vag" haha particularly since she claims to have meticulously guarded her sexual health. She was incapable of grasping that she's essentially quasi-human sans any semblance of authentic interests and aptitudes beyond her shoe fetish and "fighting patriarchy" LOL. They truly wonder why we don't have two fucks to give regarding their HR gigs that they sucked cock all throughout college to qualify for. They also don't seem to get that we know when they belch out music/sports/booze trivia - they're simply regurgitating the musings of the chad that quite literally came before us. It aint rocket science - lightly used snatch and chipper fucking attitude. As evidenced by OP's link they aren't even willing to fake it anymore. Goddamn stories like this make me so irate I want to hit something.

      [–]RememberingAlpha 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

      God this shit makes my blood boil. I think Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks, and only too willing to be a slut for chad is the most infuriating part of swallowing the pill for me because it hits so close to home.

      [–]Endorsed Contributordanxmason 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      The most infuriating part for me is realising I could have been a Chad growing up if I wasn't raised by my narcissistic post-wall mother. So much High school and university fomo.

      [–]RasAllGhul 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Im kind of pissed off because I could have been a better Chad if I hadnt been cock blocked by my narcissistic post-wall mother.

      Jesus, I could have fucked my way across America if i knew all this shit 20 years ago.

      [–]1MajorMid 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Just think about it. Seperate lawyers...polygraphs...contracts. This all defeats the purpose of true love, trust, and marriage anyway. If you have to do all that why would you marry the person?

      Marriage is useless in todays day and age

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        [–]GoldPisseR 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I figure rich people don't need to marry for miniscul 'legal benefits'.Why do they do it then?

        [–]adultsareweird 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Marriage was always a contract, one way or another. It's when the contractual side means little that marriage suffers.

        [–]Netaro 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        She posted an update. Quite an interesting update...

        [–]SCROTAL-SACK 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        God I hope this is true. Fucking hilarious. Good job on the guy for cancelling the marriage. What a mess that sloot is.

        [–]Evolved_Red 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

        I love how women justify jumping on as many cocks as they can as "finding myself", when for us men, 'finding myself' is a more sojourn solitary path. i.e. focusing on a project / career, climbing a fucking mountain or abstaining completely, whether voluntary or not (MGTOW).

        The funniest thing though is we can never claim 'I'm not that person anymore!' when we've finished 'finding ourselves', and especially if the moment suits the excuse.

        [–]blackhornatnight 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        How is he a Beta Bucks if she is already wealthy?

        [–]full_package 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Why analyze something that appears to be a troll post?

        [–]MightyTaint 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

        Because most of the people responding aren't trolls.

        [–]full_package 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        But OP analyzes the post, not the comments.

        Here's my thinking why I think it's a troll: if I wanted to troll anti-feminist side of reddit community, that would be very close to the post I'd make.

        [–]1favours_of_the_moon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

        That's cool and maybe she was more sexually attracted to that other guy and more eager to please, or whatever.

        But maybe the poor BB husband was more eager to spend money on some other bitch. Maybe he prefers not to allow this bitch access. No big deal, right?

        [–]Iron-willing 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

        He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total)

        She tells him 5 and then turns around and says 8 partners is a lot less than how many she's had. This woman has seen more dick than a urologist does in 20 years. When women say 5 it typically means around 15-20, not 50 AWALT

        [–]GhostOfAladdin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        She is feeling "anxiety" and is a "trainwreck" for natural and healthy reasons. Her CC rides arent free spins on the wheel for Barry. She's either:

        1. Come clean and search for new BB.
        2. Cheat the polygraph if nevessary and lock down Barry Bux.

        Pretty Snowflake that one...

        [–]the_crimson_pig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Classic case of AF/BB to a "T".

        Most women are incapable of empathizing with the psychological bullshit a cuck'd man goes through. Accept the reality for it is, learn to see through the lines with women's behavior, and by god, don't be a Barry..

        [–]Lt_Muffintoes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        They deserve each other. Although a polygraph may seem like a smart move on the surface, a casual examination shows this not to be the case.

        Would you let a brain surgeon operate on you, if you felt the need to polygraph them to make sure they wouldn't take a handwhisk to your head-goo?

        People like this give out very clear signals. He knows [and not too deep down either] what she is like, what she has done and that she is lying to him, yet is still marrying this whore.

        He is asking for the divorce in 5 years, where the judge will throw the prenup out, because the polygraph "shows coercion".

        You do not have to let the State's slimy tentacles into your most personal relationship, and if a woman tries to railroad a legal marriage over your fears ("But why don't you trust meeeee"), just run for the hills and ghost her.

        [–]MattyAnon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        casually asked about the number of men I'd been with.
        ...
        gave him my usual answer: five.
        

        hahahaha she even has a usual answer. So much TRP gold in this post. As usual she only counts LTR and not ONS, FWB, etc.

        They know this is an outright lie.

        [–]MattyAnon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        If we learn one thing from all this... it is that in our "equal" society, the female viewpoint is the only viewpoint. The male viewpoint is unacknowledged and in the rare cases it is heard, it is always wrong.

        [–]TRP VanguardArchwinger -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Oh come on. That has got to be a troll post.

        At the time I didn't think much of it, and gave him my usual answer: five. That seemed reasonable, even a little conservative, at the time. I only counted LTRs since high school and the boy I lost my virginity to as "real" relationships, not the high school boys I fooled around with or the other guys I've met.

        I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

        I'm no longer that girl who did all those things, I've grown and matured. I just don't think Barry will see it that way. He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total) and he does get a little jealous when I mention my exes. He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks. I don't what he'll do if he learns about all that I've done.

        Seriously, guys?

        I couldn't have written a more textbook troll post. Those paragraphs could literally have been copied from the shit we write when we're making fun of women.

        [–]S74RK 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

        TRP theory for detecting red flags in women is so good that it makes threads like these read like troll posts.

        [–]the_number_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        We're a great match. Barry is charming, wonderful, thoughtful and attentive, everything I want in a man.

        Okay, so he matches everything YOU want. Now tell me, how do YOU match up to HIM? She talks about how great he is for her, but how about why she's good enough to deserve it? Oh wait, that doesn't matter. Two people being a good match means the guy is everything the girl wants and the girl has a periodically accessible fuck-hole for the guy.

        [–]blackhornatnight 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        C'mon, brah. Her story probably isn't even real. A polygraph test? Really? This isn't Maury Povich.

        [–]teeelo -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        I swear it feels like some people make up these elaborate stories just to make TRP more valid or confirm feminist reactions from reddit.

        These stories that pop up on here from r/relationships are impossible to verify, use throwaways and are just begging to have their troll bait taken.

        Anyone else think these stories are just too convenient?