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[–]Nevociti88 millimeter: The Reich Caliber 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

The veneration of Rommel is a wonderful shorthand for the Third Reich's military failings. The focus on tactics and daring exploits (Ghost Division) over less "cool" areas like logistics, procurement, intelligence and overall strategy was endemic, with Rommel being that focus personalized. As u/seaturtlesalltheway put it,

He was a better Colonel than General.

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The hilarity is, that operational art was von Moltke approved wanking aid for the Wehrmacht.

But there was a cult of initiative / attack, too.

Heck, Truppenführung is the closest doctrinal document that the Wehrmacht had.

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's SAINT Rommel, you filthy heathen. Prostrate yourself to Heidenheim an der Brenz five times.

[–]FishschoolRommel Died For Our Sins[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

just look at my flair

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That makes it heresy. Gotta solve the first two Gefechtsaufgaben for that one.

More serious: http://np.reddit.com/r/ShitWehraboosSay/comments/3f73xq/askhistorians_opinion_piece_saint_rommel_best/

This set off a lot of discussion on Rommel.

I've since refined my stance, and decided that Rommel was a nincompoop. That he rejected general staff school really came back to haunt him, as he was completely incapable in the operational art, which German officers jerked off to.

He was a better Colonel than General.

[–]BritainOpPlsNerfThe Industrial Horde 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Have you not seen the sidebar plebian? Do penance immediately to the Patron Saint of Shit Logistics.

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Rommel logistics are best logistics. Not for Germany, but hey, details, right?

[–]Nevociti88 millimeter: The Reich Caliber [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I like the way this article summed up Rommel: "Damn the Logistics, Full Speed Ahead!"

[–]phoenixbasileusPoland shouldn't have been flashing that Danzig Corridor about 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think part of the idealisation comes out of his forced suicide through the July Plot - he can be connected to the resistance against Hitler even if his likely involvement was simply turning a blind eye to what was going on in his own staff.

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The British also needed a Clean German to make German rearmament palatable and possible. Liddell Hart thus edited the Rommel Papers... appropriately.

[–]phoenixbasileusPoland shouldn't have been flashing that Danzig Corridor about 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

He also created the myth of Blitzkrieg, so fuck Liddell Hart

[–]seaturtlesallthewayGood German 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ew, no. I have standards. I'm a Good German.

[–]phoenixbasileusPoland shouldn't have been flashing that Danzig Corridor about [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Error: no such thing

[–]Deadpoolsbae [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Guy who was elevated to hero status despite not being that great. He respected Hitler for most of his life, sort of believed in racial supremacy and used slavery for building his wall. He was a competent colonel but seemed to not know what logistics were when he became a general.

[–]madmissileer [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Militarily, a rather solid commander at lower levels but not compatible with the mindset of a general. Tactics and daring exploits, as another user pointed out, matter less at a high level than movement and supply of large formations. Promoted to a place where his skills did not suit...

Morally, overrated for being tangentially connected to July 20. He was no Himmler of course, yet this does not make him some sort of "Good, Clean German" either. Certainly I don't believe he ever took any very active part in resistance.