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[–]FedorasAgainstFaith 37ポイント38ポイント  (120子コメント)

So why exactly do they require a verified email to view them?

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (113子コメント)

[–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 137ポイント138ポイント  (93子コメント)

One of the commenters there said it best: left-wing authoritarianism. It's this mentality that gives these people the idea that they're better than everyone else, and therefore more capable of determining what people should and shouldn't be allowed to discus. The problem with this, of course, is the way it chills free speech and leads to ever increasing censorship and encroachment on open discussions.

I'll take this opportunity to point out that Reddit is based in San Francisco.

[–]EPIC_BOOBS 75ポイント76ポイント  (17子コメント)

"... They're totalitarian in the sense that they insist on controlling the thoughts and lives of others through forceful statist intervention. In doing so, they align themselves with the establishment which they pretend to be overthrowing. They're a buncha urban supremacists. Unyielding. Humorless. Stuffed to the gills with an unwarranted sense of their own cultural/moral superiority. I call them 'Bay Aryans.' "

http://www.jimgoad.net/bayaryan.html

[–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's an amazing excerpt and phrase. I highly look forward to giving this a comprehensive read.

Edit: That was more fantastic than I ever could've imagined. It perfectly sums up what my friend and I discuss about our experiences with San Francisco, and does so far more eloquently and humorously than I ever could have. 10/10, would highly recommend.

[–]TheGhostOfDusty 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just that quoted bit describes perfectly so much of the creepier behavior I've seen on reddit over the years. It's not limited to San Francisco, sadly. "Urban supremacists" is fitting.

[–]DukeOfGeek 32ポイント33ポイント  (2子コメント)

One of the things I loved about reddit was that it was a forum that tolerated people, communities and ideas that I loathed. Now it will soon be sanitized into Facebook with anonymity.....for now. So it goes. You would probably consider me left wing BTW.

[–]oscillationwave0417 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (60子コメント)

It's a private company that doesn't want to support hate speech. I don't feel bad for people that no longer have a place to support their extremist hateful views. Censoring to push an agenda is one thing, but kicking white supremacists off of reddit doesn't violate shit. Tag it with whatever buzzword/phrase you need to, "Left wing authoritarianism" still doesn't change the fact that reddit has no reason to host hate speech.

They aren't censoring at all, Reddit doesn't control anyones lives, people can still say whatever the hell they want in their day to day. Unless the only reason people say these things in the first place was because they are hiding behind a computer screen. In which case they are just a bunch of spineless cowards and that's not Reddits fault.

[–]swingmymallet 9ポイント10ポイント  (33子コメント)

"Doesn't want to support hate speech"

Yet SRS and r/crackertown is still up

[–]X-edOut 2ポイント3ポイント  (25子コメント)

Pointing out and mocking hate speech is not the same as actual hate speech. That's why SRS is still here and coontown isn't.

[–]swingmymallet 4ポイント5ポイント  (24子コメント)

Doxxing and brigading are against the rules, yet SRS has a long and well documented history of it. Still here.

/r/Crackertown is literally coontown only with whites. Still here.

The evidence shows hypocrisy.

[–]X-edOut 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well documented? I've never seen these documents. Are you sure you don't mean well mythologized?

[–]swingmymallet -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Then you're blind because they've been posted numerous times on reddit, including this sub

SRS sucks, subredditcancer, undelete

All have had posts showing these.

So either you aren't looking, or you have seen them and just ignore pesky facts that don't follow your narrative.

[–]justhere4catgifs 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

hypocrisy? what subreddits have been banned for brigading? none. coontown was banned for racism.

[–]frog_licker -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a private company that doesn't want to support hate speech. 

No, it's a private company that doesn't want to support some hate speech but has no problem allowing other hate speech. Censoring all hate speech still wouldn't be great, but it would be better than the "censor speech I don't like" happening now.

[–]mhl67 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not really left-wing so much as "safe" progressivism. They take the easiest most superficial approach possible to seem like they're on the right side of history. It doesn't have much to do with anything leftist.

[–]swingmymallet 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oy vey

I'm sure that has nothing to do with anything

[–]FedorasAgainstFaith 32ポイント33ポイント  (18子コメント)

Wow, I hate disgusting subreddits too but this is going too far. They should just ban them instead of forcing people to give up extra personal info.

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yeah that part is highly troubling.

[–]graaahh 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can always... I dunno... make a second email account. That doesn't have your personal info on it. Or that has someone else's info on it. Or that has made up info on it. Not really that hard.

[–]WatchYourToneBoy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Make a fake email? Its not that complicated

[–]TransitioningToVoat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

spambog.com

Who actually uses real emails to sign up for things these days...

[–]CallingOutYourBS 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

forcing people to give up extra personal info.

It takes seconds to make a new email account. You don't have to give up personal info. I'm not saying I approve or anything, but claiming it's forcing you to give up personal info seems like quite a stretch to me.

[–]Ser_Davos_Cworth 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think that keeping track of just who is visiting those subreddits also has a lot to do with it. It's profiling for potential future use. It's much easier to associate an email to a specific person (especially these days that most email addresses require your cell before they let you sign up) than it is to associate an IP address to a specific person.

[–]mcopper89 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

There is a website dedicated to temporary throwaway emails that last just long enough to verify the email, then get deleted. I don't remember the names of any, but they are out there if you are looking for them.

[–]AlphaWookie 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

The better to dox you with.

[–]paabussen 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're making a thought crime database for the future.

[–]WayneRooneysHairPlug 124ポイント125ポイント  (31子コメント)

I find it interesting that I am unable to access either of those subs using Reddit is Fun

[–]LYejMdJ3WLId7g91qfsL 47ポイント48ポイント  (7子コメント)

There is no API endpoint for this yet, this means that developers aren't able to implement this in their apps. So these subs are broken in the mobile apps.

As how it's written now, the subs show up with the same error message as a non-existing subreddit.

[–]Mavee 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh for fuck sake. Even if it were a rush job, would it be that much of a hassle to update the API?

[–]willrandship 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes, and even if it was there would still need to be an update on their end.

[–]fellow_redditor 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

They could have added to their API and notified the main reddit app developers in advance. Let them know there's an API change coming, and have them sign an NDA. Then updates could roll out shortly after the announcement.

[–]willrandship 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's an awful lot of work to remove a tiny inconvenience. Not only is it a side platform, it's a new feature on a side platform that fails silently.

[–]fellow_redditor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

From a purely practical standpoint if they are going to add it to the API anyway it's very little work to communicate that. The silent failure is bad in this case because nothing is returned instead of what was expected. At the very least it should return a backwards compatible error message stating what the issue is.

[–]genitaliban 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, the JSON just gives a 404 error as if the sub were banned. It's not even about devs of public apps, lots of people use the reddit API to gather data for whatever purpose. This shit is completely messing up my stats and I have yet to figure out how to deal with it.

[–]TreeOfSecrets 70ポイント71ポイント  (3子コメント)

Same on Relay. Most likely because this is brand new code and hasn't been properly implemented.

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah it looks like you have to "unlock" each individual one first before accessing it using an app.

[–]babble_on 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to log in from a browser, accept the subreddit, and then it will be available on any app.

[–]NoodleBox 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can't on Baconreader, it shows a 404.

(I accessed one of the ape subreddit. I'm sorry for offending anyone.)

[–]Mnqa 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I try to visit one of these subreddits it says I need to have a verified email to view it. Wtf is the point of that? I'm not giving reddit my email.

[–]anarchism4thewin 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

So no option to disable this quarantine shit in settings after all? I really have to click "continue" for each individual quarantined community?

Also what is up with not showing the number of subscribers? Seems like a stupid and pointless move.

[–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

So no option to disable this quarantine shit in settings after all?

No.

I really have to click "continue" for each individual quarantined community?

Yes. /u/spez wants to make absolutely sure that you know what a horrible human being you are.

[–]TotesMessenger 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a bot, bleep, bloop. Someone has linked to this thread from another place on reddit:

If you follow any of the above links, please respect the rules of reddit and don't vote in the other threads. (Info / Contact)

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    [–]MaxNanasy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    TBF The implied joke is a racist one

    [–]razorbeamz 15ポイント16ポイント  (13子コメント)

    [–]bunglejerry 15ポイント16ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I probably don't want to know... but the name /r/drawpeople doesn't seem that offensive... What is/was that subreddit?

    [–]soupychicken89 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People draw people, shitily. But since the Ellen Pao deal, they've just been drawing shitty drawings of her and also of fat people.

    [–]razorbeamz 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

    A subreddit where you draw people and can be as offensive as you want.

    [–]Rafikim 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Wait, that doesn't seem so bad. Why is it being quarantined?

    [–]razorbeamz 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Probably this rule:

    We love slurs. Use them regularly, please.

    [–]Firepizza9110 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    From what I heard, it was moderated by CoonTown dudes

    [–]AWhiteKnight123 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I know it was modded by a bunch of CT mods.

    [–]Blinkskij 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They don't like people from Connecticut much, eh?

    [–]tones2013 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    the pictures are all racist.

    [–]ThraShErDDoS 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I made a subreddit if anyone cares to sub to for future updates to the list.

    /r/thequarantinelist/

    [–]tom641 14ポイント15ポイント  (15子コメント)

    While being grouped with these subs would seem somewhat insulting, I don't see why /r/pomf and /r/lolicons weren't given this treatment since they're not illegal but some people might find it shocking to see, the entire bloody point of the system.

    [–]Arnox 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Lolicon is actually illegal in some countries, such as Australia.

    [–]tom641 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I understand that, but it's not illegal in america, which is where Reddit is based.

    [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    [–]tom641 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It feels like I technically shouldn't be able to complain if it's against the content policy but it still seems fucking bullshit. All of these subs that exist solely to generate hate get ghetto'd but these subs of art of this thing everyone isn't comfortable with isn't allowed?

    [–]Altiumbe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You know what the funniest part is?

    /r/bestiality is still up.

    [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 95ポイント96ポイント  (34子コメント)

    Can we call these what they are? Reddit Ghettos.

    They're going to round up all the undesirable subreddits, put them in ghettos, then starve them by denying them fresh users, votes, and opinions via /r/all.

    Also, I'll bet my next paycheck that the mods in the defaults are going to institute deletions and bans if you link to any of the verboten subreddits, further deepening the rift between admin-approved opinions and the forbidden thoughts. It'll get so bad that there'll need to be separate channels just to discuss the people in the ghettos. Established users will chill their own speech, and fear setting foot in the ghettoized subreddits, as they know the SJW bots will hunt them down and mark them for automoderator persecution.

    [–]buzzkillpop 34ポイント35ポイント  (16子コメント)

    I'll bet my next paycheck that the mods in the defaults are going to institute deletions and bans if you link to any of the verboten subreddits

    Pretty easy to bet on something that's been happening for a while now.

    [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 30ポイント31ポイント  (15子コメント)

    It's impossible to ban people for mentioning quarantined subreddits before those subreddits have actually been quarantined. They only started doing this today.

    [–]buzzkillpop 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You don't think some subreddit's mods already had their bots banning links to certain communities?

    [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

    The list that SRS bans you for discussing is surely different than /r/news, which is different than TIL, and so on.

    I'm saying that the admins are creating a canonical list and that it highly encourages mods to make these the subreddits that shall not be named. My bet is that this list is going to be used for moderator deletions/bans.

    [–]MentlegenOh 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nope. Many of these communities are moderated by powermods with over 100 boards under their control and use near-identical, if not the exact same, banlists.

    [–]Gustav__Mahler -1ポイント0ポイント  (11子コメント)

    Comment history?

    [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

    There WERE no quarantined subreddits before today. It was just whatever the mods of that subreddit wanted to make AutoModerator ban you far. Now there's a canonical list that, I'm saying, will surely be used by mods for deletions/bans.

    [–]Pokechu22 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

    Automoderator cannot ban users; it can only remove comments. You'd need a custom bot to ban users.

    (It can be used to notify the subreddit's mods via modmail and then have them ban it, though.)

    [–]Shitlord617 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

    You mean the Mr Rogers bot? https://slimgur.com/image/09j

    [–]Pokechu22 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No, that bot also doesn't ban users directly. It, as well, only removes comments (or reports them).

    [–]Shitlord617 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank you for a legitimate answer. Yes it is to send reports as you said among other things to mods that way a human can decide to ban or not. It makes the job of filtering discussions easier.

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        [–]Shitlord617 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        You are really grasping at straws and making assumptions as to why I posted it while you both try to derail the conversation.

        [–]Shitlord617 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        No It just became habit for me because I don't want to give reddit any more page views than I have to. Please stay on subject. you never refuted anything about the bot, just started saying it isn't secret when I have been banned from r\news for telling people it exists. It being secret or not has nothing at all to do with the conversation at hand.

        [–]n3dward 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

        And when was the last time any of these subs showed up in r/all? they're the racist ones, so they don't get much popular support... Now it is possible that in the future a quality sub will be quarantined, but I doubt that there's really ever going to be a large group of people sad that /r/coontown is banned, or /r/kiketown is in quarentine.

        Aside from all the recent talk about banning and quarantine, can you point to situations where a racist sub has been relevant? I'd be curious if they've ever offered anything except a safe haven for racist individuals.

        [–]Cloughtower 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Coontown recently hit 25k subs and I knew that was the death knell. 600,000 pageviews per month and frontpage posts more and more frequently

        [–]TotesMessenger 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

        [–]derGraf_ 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Shit. I was seriously wondering for a minute there what a panichi story is.

        [–]tianan 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

        They're going to round up all the undesirable subreddits, put them in ghettos, then starve them by denying them fresh users, votes, and opinions via /r/all

        Good

        [–]JustLogginMyThoughts 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

        tired sigh

        As a general reminder: reddit can not and will never be comparable to historical dictatorships, as their decisions do not (as much as they'd like to think) dictate the rules for websites everywhere

        Being stuck in a country with opressive rules is far removed from being on a website you don't like, as no one's forcing you to stay here

        [–]BrainSlurper 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The jews in fact were not given the option to leave for voat

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          [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

          That's a great idea. That way it could be easy to tell which users participate in undesirable subreddits, and are currently outside of a Reddit ghettoized area. Users should be allowed out from time to time, of course, to conduct business, but they should probably have their voting privileges taken away when they're outside of the ghetto, so that they don't infect the safe space with their dangerous ideas.

          They should also be prevented from hoarding Reddit Gold, and, instead, everyone who already has it should be warned that upon entering the ghettoized subreddit they will surrender it, and will be unable to earn anymore.

          [–]i-am-you 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

          They already hand out yellow badges to people who mod the subs http://i.imgur.com/gKWHEnw.png

          [–]AlphaWookie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          OY VEY a literal yellow badge of shame.

          [–]SuperConductiveRabbiundelete MVP -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Good point!

          Though, now that I think about it, this makes it easy to compile all their names of people stuck in these ghettoized subreddits and put them in a document, so that they can be invited to someplace better and saved from Reddit. A bunch of names written down for Voat invites. A list, if you will.

          [–]GoldenSights 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Here's some more: http://redd.it/3fxs3q

          [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Thanks! I think I have them all already, the sorting by subscribers is nice though.

          [–]NewAlexandria 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I think this list should remain prominent — until Reddit-core offers a way for people to find the quarantined subs

          [–]TheGhostOfDusty 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

          /r/Ben_Garrison is quarantined.

          It's a sub that tries to defame a libertarian cartoonist as being a Nazi. Something about 4chan?

          [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Thanks!

          [–]TheGhostOfDusty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You bet.

          Info on their game:

          Shares multiple mods with CoonTown. Hmm... now why would supposed racists be so into elaborately defaming a successful and popular anti-authoritarian cartoonist?

          [–]Buckfost 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Why was /r/BlackFathers banned? To my knowledge nothing was ever posted thereand there was no sidebar. It was literally a completely blank sub and the admins have quarantined it as offensive.

          [–]Dog-Person 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          To be fair that's the joke. "No such thing as a black father", so it's completely empty and only mods can post, which they won't.

          [–]genericname1231 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Make a new list for hypocrisy.

          /r/KillWhitey
          /r/CrackerTown
          /r/EndRacism
          /r/AgainstTheChimpire
          /r/EndGamerGate

          They're like SRS and The Chimpire. A 'network'.

          [–]Pokechu22 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Here's another list. You were already linked this list here, NVM.

          [–]WolfeBane84 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          So where did all the /r/CoonTown people move to?

          [–]PingasPanther 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Will the overseers first move a sub into quarantine to sweep it under the rug and then ban it? Plus I'm concerned about their shock and awe opening gambit with mostly quarantining low traffic and inactive subs. What are the admins hiding?

          [–]UltimateFinn 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Wait, WTF, is there a /r/blackpeoplehate? And those fuckers get quarantined but not banned? Where is the line drawn here?

          [–]rosewillcode 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          I have 2 more that I found recently via a script: /r/SwedenYes/ and /r/FatAutisticNiggers

          [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Thanks! How did you do it?

          [–]rosewillcode 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I have a script written in Python that will check a list of subreddits for quarantined ones. I checked all 575476 subreddits that I got from the Reddit API, and those were the two that came up. I'm guessing that the API filters out quarantined subreddits because I didn't find any of the other ones listed in this post. Those two must have been quarantined after I created my subreddit list.

          There really doesn't seem to be a great technological way to keep an ongoing list of quarantined subreddits as they become effectively invisible to the Reddit API as far as I can tell.

          [–]Doomsday_Device 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Reddit is quite niggardly.

          [–]alanthemanofchicago 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

          [–]IAmAnAnonymousCoward[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

          Thanks, definitely one of the bigger subreddits quarantined.

          [–]Youareabadperson6 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Why in the world were they quarantined?

          [–]Involution88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Why has /r/blackfathers been quarantined?

          [–]SnapshillBot 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Snapshots:

          1. This Post - 1, 2, 3

          2. /r/KikeTown - 1, 2, Error

          I am a bot. (Info / Contact)

          [–]Pokechu22 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Um... only archiving one subreddit? Is this intended behavior? Or is the bot broken by this change?

          [–]1p2r3 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

          If I want to check one of these subreddits out, is there a way to temporarily unquarantine it?

          [–]ShortySim101 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Would we be able to get a list of subreddits that were banned?

          [–]zaturama015 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Where are the banned ones?

          [–]PingasPanther 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Does anyone have a list of banned subreddits?

          [–]WolfeBane84 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Every time I've said the following to a liberal in the real world, they just sputter and shut down:

          If Tolerance is about Tolerating all types of people, then to be truly Tolerant you must Tolerate the IN-Tolerant.

          [–]peppaz 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You are a modern day Plato. Truly a genius ahead of your time.

          [–]Taydrum 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Libtards gonna libtard